Native American music

Subject: Native American music
From: GUEST,Phil Atkinson
Date: 01 May 02 - 04:14 PM

Looking for a short soundbite to place on a web page ... something with drum and voice. In Canada, First Nations music is protected by law so that it may not even be recorded except with express permission of the band that owns it. Don't want to upset anyone, but if there's something in the public domain that anyone's aware of I'd be grateful to know.

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 May 02 - 04:21 PM

This might be a good place to look.Index of Native American Music Resources on the Internet

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 May 02 - 04:24 PM

Many songs of all kinds, with music, in "The Indians' Book, Natalie Curtis, 1987, Bonanza, New York, 576 pages.
Or why not hire a native musician to make a soundbite for you???

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: MediocreShepherd
Date: 02 May 02 - 12:01 AM

You can email my friend Jr, who is a member of the drum group 'Sons of Membertou' and aso the webmaster of a First Nation Help desk at [e-mail] and visit their webpage at http://www.firstnationhelp.com to hear some of their music or order a CD

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 May 02 - 01:50 AM

MediocreShepherd, that is a great site, thanks for the link!

I second Dicho's suggestion, why not pay a First Nations member for their music, such as MS's friend?

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: GUEST,Phil A
Date: 02 May 02 - 01:09 PM

Thanks for the help ... I have already talked to the Chief at the local band and he tells me the songs are "personal" and not for general distribution. They are pertinant to specific spirits, ceremonies and persons, so the are held in sacred trust and the concept of someone else using them is unconscionable. He did say, however, I could do it myself ... "fake it" as he put it. Such a cool dude. He also told me that many of the native songs recorded for things like 'wild west shows' and rodeos subsitute rude words for the traditional ones. Mostly aimed at making fun of whoever is using them. Sort of a perpetual joke at non-native's expense. Pretty funny when you think about it!

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 May 02 - 01:37 PM

Phil, your post gave me a smile. When I was in high school in New Mexico, one of the annual football games was against the U. S. Indian School in Santa Fe. The cheers on their side, often in various pueblo tongues, were not in the least complimentary.
It is also true that their songs are on a more personal level than ours, but a number of native performers are now singing (not the personal, tribal, but invented songs) on cd. This was why I suggested getting one to do the cut. Here in Canada, we have the APTN (Aboriginal peoples?) TV cable channel, and a number of professional native musicians and trained technicians outside this service who work in the community at large. I am sure that these trained people are available in the States as well.

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: GUEST,Phil Atkinson
Date: 02 May 02 - 01:43 PM

Thanks Dicho ... I'll scout about (forgive the pun) I too live in Canada (Victoria BC) and the soundbite will go on a web site that promotes a short film I'm making regarding how the Songhees Band got ripped off in 1845 by James Douglas and the Hudson's Bay Company. I'll post a URL on this thread if I ever get it done.

Subject: RE: Native American music
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 03 May 02 - 12:20 PM

I'm a late poster here - but several songs are "universal" with the tribes. The "Flag Song" or the "Victory Song" are the same, in my experience, amongst the tribes. Sure they are special but it would seem to me an honor that such a universal song could be placed for others to hear. And compensation is also universal.

Steve