Origin: Cumberland Road

Subject: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.
Date: 04 May 02 - 07:57 PM

Can anyone tell me who wrote "Cumberland Road"? Is it a trad Irish song, or something more recent? I can find no reference to it anywhere (no lyrics in DT either).

yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From:
Date: 04 May 02 - 09:10 PM

Can you tell us more about the song? I see a song called Cumberland Gap. There are several threads on the song. You might want to check on those threads. The song is also in the DT database.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 04 May 02 - 09:47 PM

Found no info nor lyrics so far, but it's on 40 Favourite Irish Songs.

~Masato

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.
Date: 05 May 02 - 08:55 AM

No, it's an Irish song, about a girl met on the Cumberland Road. The "40 Favourite Songs" album masato refers to is where I heard it (a crummy album by a bunch called "The Boys of the Isle"), but the song has a nice quality to it. It has the sound -- I don't know why, intuition perhaps, of being a modern fake old Irish song of the "Fields of Athenry" genre.

yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: paddymac
Date: 05 May 02 - 02:01 PM

PeterT. - There has been a good bit of discussion here on "The Fields of Athenry," the gist of which seems to be that the "song" credited to Pete St John is no more than an arrangement with some altered lyrics (primarily the chorus) of a Dublin broadsheet from the 1880s. I did and do like the song, but have no great respect for people who seek to take such material, tweak it a bit, and call it their own. Cheap.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 May 02 - 09:02 AM

Help!?

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From:
Date: 06 May 02 - 11:19 AM

paddymac, it was determined in one of those previous threads that Pete St. John IS the author of that song. The ersatz printer named by the person who put up the web-site was proven to not exist. That web-site shouldn't be still active.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 May 02 - 11:31 AM

This is not a thread about the Fields of Athenry! yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From:
Date: 06 May 02 - 10:24 PM

No, but you mentioned it in a previous message. I was replying to Paddymac's message.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 05:47 AM

I would like to nominate Cumberland (with patriotic pride) as the English county featured most often in song/tune titles. I can think of Cumberland Road, Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Reel( 2 different tunes), Bonny Cumberland, Cumberland Nelly, Canny Old Cumberland, Cumberland March, Cumberland Mountain Bear Chase ( I appreciate some might consider the American and Irish entries cheating, but it's the actual name I'm talking about). But I have a strong feeling Yorkhire and Lancashire could both quite probably match this. Any takers?

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 07 May 02 - 06:24 AM

Greg: this probably requires a separate thread, but my first thoughts are of:
"Washington & Lincoln"
"The Surrey with a fringe on top"

Nigel

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: GUEST,Paul
Date: 07 May 02 - 06:49 AM

Greg,

In answer to your query, there's:

The Lancashire Reel
Lancashire Clog Dance
Lancashire Quadrilles
A Lancashire Carol
Old Lancashire Hornpipe
The Lancashire lass
The Lancashire witches
Lancashire tragedy
The Lancashire heroes
The Lancashire lad
Lancashire Dick
Lancashire's glory
The Lancashire emigrant's farewell
The Lancashire lady's wedding
The Lancashire lovers
Lancashire miners

For starters...

Paul

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 May 02 - 06:54 AM

Well PT, that should sum it up for you huh? Yeah, that's the answer all right.............

Spaw

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 May 02 - 06:56 AM

Catspaw criticises thread drift!

Will wonders never cease...

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:30 AM

Guest Paul: are you clever with computers? Couldyou transfer your Lancahire list to my new "melodious counties" thread.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:56 AM

Thread abandonment, more like it. First time I have ever stumped the Mudcat, and on something that I thought would be answered within a minute from the massed ranks of the Irishry here abundant. Bizarre. yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 07 May 02 - 10:04 AM

Lincoln and Liberty Too
Lincolnshire Poacher

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: artbrooks
Date: 07 May 02 - 03:43 PM

I assume you don't mean "Church on Cumberland Road". In the unlikely event that you do, that's a country-western song by Shenandoah (according to AltaVista). Otherwise, can't help you.

Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 May 02 - 02:17 PM

Does the name Russell Mills mean anything? yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Origin: Cumberland Road
From: GUEST,Mario
Date: 13 Jul 08 - 10:24 AM

I am unable to find the lyrics of Cumberland Road and my English is not good enough to catch all the The Boys of the Isle(or Original
Irish Boys)sing. Can anybody help?

Subject: RE: Origin: Cumberland Road
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 11 Apr 09 - 01:34 AM

Lyrics to CUMBERLAND ROAD have been posted here, in another thread.