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OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad

Dave the Gnome 30 May 02 - 10:48 AM
Sorcha 30 May 02 - 10:56 AM
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Subject: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 May 02 - 10:48 AM

Sorry to offload this here but I think of you mottley crew as friends now and what are friends for?

We have just lost a friend of my sons. More than a friend really - he was at our house as much as his own during parts of his life. We don't know the circumstances yet but he was only 21. He was certainly a character and half. Well over 6' tall, vibrant, brash, loud and experienced well beyond his years. He leaves a girlfriend and young daughter behind. Saddest thing is that he seemed to be just getting into the parenthood thing and settling down a little.

I will always remember him now sat in our back room playing my guitar and deciding that to play the blues properly he needed to wear a hat. So he borrowed my black fedora and treated us to some excellent riffs! I guess he could have made a good musician if he had put his mind to it. Now we will never know.

I just hope he now finds the peace he was searching for and that his family and friends can find some sense in such a waste.

There, I feel a bit better now for having said it. I will miss his infectious grin and stupid laugh though...:-(

Thanks for 'listening' (Well - you know what I mean!)

Cheers

Dave the Gnome
PS - I expect I'll attract the usual trolls - please ignore them. The lad I'm talking about often played a Troll in the live roll-playing sessions they had. He would beat any of the ones here senseless - lterally!!!


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 May 02 - 10:56 AM

I'm sorry Dave. It always hurts; I know that well. Peace to you and him both.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 May 02 - 10:56 AM

Always available for listening Dave. Sounds like a really sad time for all and the best I can do is listen and send you my best thoughts and sincerest condolences. In a few sentences you brought the personality of this young man to us and that's an important part of going through the grief as well.

Pat


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: GUEST,Patrish
Date: 30 May 02 - 11:02 AM

Dear Dave, I'm so sorry to hear your news, he sounded like a rare young man. I'm thinking of you for what its worth
love
Patrish x


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Cappuccino
Date: 30 May 02 - 11:03 AM

Even though we didn't know him, still very sorry.

- Ian B


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 May 02 - 11:21 AM

You have given us a vivid picture of this young man and so we know him, in a way. So sorry to hear of this profound loss. Many good thoughts and thanksgivings for peace are winging their way to you. Thank you for sharing him with us.

kat


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 May 02 - 11:55 AM

Peace to you and yours. I'm so sorry for your loss.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Morticia
Date: 30 May 02 - 12:36 PM

Oh Dave, I'm so sorry....it's strange how our children's friends become our supernumery offspring too, isn't it? When Fiona split up with her long-term boyfriend I was devasted.....this must be so much worse....my love to you all.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 May 02 - 12:38 PM

My condolences, and this is exactly where to post stuff like this. We love you and care about you and are sad for you, and the more people are remembering your lost loved one, the more the memory is alive...


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Micca
Date: 30 May 02 - 01:17 PM

Dave, I am saddened by your news, and send good thoughts to you and you family, I remember how welcoming they are to strangers.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: alanabit
Date: 30 May 02 - 01:22 PM

The loss of a young life is particularly hard to come to terms with. Thinking of you.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Naemanson
Date: 30 May 02 - 01:48 PM

Sorry to hear this. I have known some wonderful young people, friends of my kids mostly, Any such loss is a terrible tragic event.

But he will continue to live in your heart and those riffs will always be his, even when someone else plays them. And some day you will be able to hear them without tears welling up in your eyes.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 May 02 - 01:52 PM

Sorry, Dave.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: CarolC
Date: 30 May 02 - 02:10 PM

I'm really sorry to hear that Dave (tG). I send my best thoughts and wishes to all of you who are mourning his loss.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 30 May 02 - 02:23 PM

Sorry Dave. The sense of loss is so great when the young die, not just because of the loss of what they are, but because of the loss of all that they would become.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 30 May 02 - 03:56 PM

Dave,

I'm sorry to hear this. My condolences.

Steve Latimer


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 30 May 02 - 04:37 PM

Dave: My condolences to you, your family and his girlfriend and baby. Neil


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: SharonA
Date: 30 May 02 - 04:55 PM

Dave, I'm so sorry to hear about the untimely death of this young man to whom you opened your home and your hearts. My heartfelt condolences to your family and his, and my best hopes that you all will find peace and strength in the love you all share for him.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 30 May 02 - 05:58 PM

Dave, put on your black fedora and play us some blues. Everyone will be listening.

Pete


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Deda
Date: 30 May 02 - 06:18 PM

I add my condolences, too, and share the sorrow with you and your family. It is particularly hard that he was young and had a baby of his own, and should have had a long, rich life ahead of him. Definitely worth a case of the blues.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Amos
Date: 30 May 02 - 09:17 PM

Dave:

How did it happen?

A


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: alison
Date: 30 May 02 - 09:21 PM

sorry for your loss Dave....

love and hugs

alison


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 May 02 - 04:08 AM

Thanks for all the kind words. You know, if a trouble shared is a trouble halved, you guys REALLY cut those blues down to size!

We know now that his mother found him dead in bed yesterday morning. Other than that there are no details. The post-mortem is today and I guess there will be an inquest next week.

I was doing a bit of Tai Chi last night which gave me chance to meditate on this temporary condition we call life. I realised that our friend had crammed more into his 21 years than a lot of people do in 70! He lived it on the edge - which may or may not have been a contributory factor - but he certainly got a lot out of it.

I remember taking 4 of them up to Ingleton in the Yorkshire Dales for a few days about 3 or 4 years ago. After seeing them splasing around down wet caves and not caring about anything when climbing waterfalls or treking for miles in the rain I began to remember what it was like and started to enjoy myself more than I had for years. Sod the waterproofs! It's only water!!

Always remember that life is not a dress rehersal. It's for real. Grasp it. Enjoy it. Live it:-)

Thanks again and Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Amos
Date: 31 May 02 - 10:55 AM

Ah, Dave, ya got the ole wisdom, for sure; if there's anything to learn from death, aside from not fearing or loathing it, you captured it there in a nutshell! :>)

Thanks, man.

A


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: kendall
Date: 31 May 02 - 03:21 PM

We are here for our friends, my condolences to you Mate.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: NELLIE
Date: 31 May 02 - 03:26 PM

We've been away for a few days and i'm just catching up with posts.

Condolences to you and the young man's family. It's sad for them to lose one so young.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: fat B****rd
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 03:40 AM

Just back from Cornwall, so sorry to hear of a young life gone. My condolences, best regards from the fB.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:56 AM

Just thought you would like to know that the funeral was today. Requiem Mass at the parish church followed by internment at the local cemetary. It was very moving and I don't think there was a dry eye in the house when they played Eric Claptons "Tears in Heaven". Is there any other song more suited to the death of a young one?

Anyhow, he had a beautiful plot, almost under a tree and towards the edge of the cemetary. I had a little smile to myself when I thought of what a good place it would be to haunt in his trollish alter-ego! I will visit him again with my son I'm sure - but not after dark;-)

In the words of the priest. His search has stopped now. He can rest.

Thanks again for the support.

Cheers

Dave the Gnome


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:17 AM

DtG - I was away and missed this thread first time round. I'm really sorry for you and your son's loss. Best wishes.


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Zorro
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 07:51 AM

I'll pass along a quote I received when I lost my dad: "The sorrow will fade; the memories will be yours to keep!" Z


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 11:29 AM

Just thought that you would like to know that the results of the inquest have been published.

He died of a Morphine ovedose. Aparantly he had been suffering from headaches for a few days and could not find any pain killers. His Mum, who suffers from some form of cancer (Hodgkiss? Hodgkinsons?) had a stock of strong pain killing tablets for when things get bad but he didn't realise how how strong they were:-(

I guess it will not be much help to his Mum that the tablets that help her get by took her son away. I have not spoken to her yet but hopefuly she will realise that it realy was just a tragic accident and accept the accidental death verdict of the inquest.

I've still got the hat btw - I won't wear it now but it resides permenantly on the guitar head where it is stored in the corner of the dining room. Still makes me smile! I am getting a new one for Christmas off the good Lady G tomorrow.

Cheers and thanks again for all the good wishes and kind thoughts.

Dave the Gnome


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 12:04 PM

Oh, Dave, that is so sad. I cannot imagine how his mom must feel. Thanks so much for letting us know.

Glad you still have the hat and it helps you smile.:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 06:19 PM

Dave,
When the time is right, make sure his mother knows how you feel about her son. It will help her.
Mary


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: Deckman
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 07:16 PM

Hello Dave.

Have you noticed how damned permanent death is? It is a shock. When we were kritters growing up, our parents tried to protect us from shocks like this. They naturally wanted only the "best" for us.

So when death does happen, it usually comes as a shock. Especially hard in your situation ... but every death is especially hard.

I think the hat on the guitar is a very fitting shrine ... quite thoughtful, not just to you but also to others.

I've suffered three deaths this year: my Mother this Spring, my Father a month ago, and a dear friend and neighbor this Fall. Nothing I have experinced previously has prepared me for this ... except knowing that death will happen.

I am not a Christian. I do not believe, as you do, that when we die we will all go to some kind of heaven and play poker again. But I do believe, that as long as the departed live within the hearts and souls of those remaining, we never die.

NOTICE ... PLEASE RESPECT THIS THREAD AND DO NOT TRASH IT!

Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: OBIT: No one you'd know - but I'm sad
From: greg stephens
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 07:51 PM

Dave you have got a step above the futility of fate with what you have told us about this young man. thanks for finding good words for an awful thing
All the best greg


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