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Subject: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 12:23 PM

In the sang Shy Geordie in mentions "Doon by Inglismaddy",dis oneybody know whit this is? ljc


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: DMcG
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 04:04 PM

I don't even know Shy Geordie. Please post a link or the context of the lyrics and then maybe we can work it out from the context. Knowing no more than you've given, I'd guess at a placename, but its not one I recognise.


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 05:43 PM

The only thing ah can think o' is it is an English wummans name,as in Maddie Prior.

SHY GEORDIE

Up the Noran Wate

In by Inglismaddy,

Annie's got a bairnie

That hasna got a daddy.

Some say it's Tammas's,

An' some say its Chay's;

An' naebody expec'it it,

Wi' Annie's quite ways.

Up the Noran Water

The bonnie little mannie

Is dandled an' cuddled close

By Inglismaddy's Annie.

Wha the bairnie's daddy is

The lassie never says ;

But some think it's Thammas's,

An' some think it's Chay's.

Up the Noran Water

The country folk are kind ;

An' wha the bairnie's daddy is

They dinna muckle mind.

But oh ! the bairn at Annie's breist,

The love in Annie's e'e--
--

They mak me wish wi' a' my might

The lucky lad was me !



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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: Noreen
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 05:49 PM

Lovely words! I think it sounds like a place name.


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 05:58 PM

Could it possibly be "English Maddy/Maddie" as in a woman's name like you thought?


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:02 PM

Dammit--no, I see it probably isn't. Thought I hit the Clear button........oh well. Is that the phonetic spelling, ljc?


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:03 PM

This bit makes me think that Inglismaddy is Annies mother.ljc
Subject: RE: Shy Geordie From: little john cameron Date: 12-Jun-02 - 05:43 PM

The only thing ah can think o' is it is an English wummans name,as in Maddie Prior.

SHY GEORDIE

Up the Noran Wate

In by Inglismaddy,

Annie's got a bairnie

That hasna got a daddy.

Some say it's Tammas's,

An' some say its Chay's;

An' naebody expec'it it,

Wi' Annie's quite ways.

Up the Noran Water

The bonnie little mannie

Is dandled an' cuddled close

By Inglismaddy's Annie


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:06 PM

Naw thar is the original Scots spellin.Ingis is ENGLAND.


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:07 PM

I think it is a place name.........what do I know?


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: Noreen
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:21 PM

Yes, I know what you mean, ljc, but that construction is also used of a placename, as in Mill o' Tifty's Annie (*sniff*)


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 06:57 PM

Aye bit Mill o' Tifty is a place,Inglis is the auld Scots word for English.As in Ingleland=England.ljc(BIG SNIFF)


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 07:10 PM

A location in the Buchan district of Aberdeenshire, Tifty and Mill of Tifty lie a mile (1˝ km) to the north of Fyvie. A local ballad known as Mill o' Tifty's Annie recalls an Agnes Smith who died in 1678 of a broken heart, her father having locked her in her room to prevent her from eloping with the Trumpeter of Fyvie. A stone figure of the trumpeter bcan still be seen on one of the castle towers at Fyvie. ljc


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: GUEST,banbha
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 07:17 PM

Agnes Smith wouldn't be the original 'Lass of Fife' [as in the song] by any chance???


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: GUEST,banbha
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 07:19 PM

Sorry, I meant a different song than the one this thread is concerned with!


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 12 Jun 02 - 07:42 PM

Nae bother,that was Peggy in The Bonnie Lass.ljc


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: GUEST,Moleskin Joe
Date: 13 Jun 02 - 09:49 AM

These words are a poem by the Angus poet Violet Jacob and were put to music by Jim Reid. The placenames are in Angus. Len Graham borrowed the song and turns the names into Irish ones.


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: little john cameron
Date: 13 Jun 02 - 11:52 AM

Naw Joe,ah think ye're gettin mixed up wi' "Wild Geese" whit wis written by Violet Jacob an' recorded by Jim REID.He also recorded "Shy Geordie" as "Up the Loran Water"
Shy Geordie wis written by Helen Cruikshanks.ljc


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 Jun 02 - 11:58 AM

The song has been discussed here a number of times in the past, with some disagreement as to whether the tune is by Len Graham (Innishfaddie's Annie) or Jim Reid (Up the Noran Water); it may very well be that there are two different arrangements circulating, though I've only ever heard one melody for it.

Lyr Req: innisvaddie annie
Help: Loran Water
Up the Noran Water

It appears that Helen Cruikshank -Montrose born and educated, but an Edinburgh resident for most of her life- spelled (the placename) Inglismaddy; there are a number of places named Inglismaldie in various parts of Scotland.


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: iainc
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 10:23 PM

rieght now,shy geordie as I have it
up the noren waters and roun by invosmaddie
annies got a bairnie that has nae got a daddy
who the bairnies father is the lassie would-na say
and nobody expected it wi annies quiet ways.

up the noren waters the bonnie little man'ie
is dangeled and cuddled close by ingles maddies annie
who the bairnies father is the lassie wouldna say
but some think its thomas'es and others think its shane's

up the noren waters the country folk are kinder
and who the bairnies father is they di'nay muckle mind
but oh! the bairn at annies breast the love in annies eye
would mak me wish wi all ma micht that the lucky lad was me,

thats it then any more????????????
big iain cameron


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 10:38 PM

Read my earlier post (the one just before yours). The underlined blue things are links to earlier discussions which contain more information than does this late and rather pointless thread on the subject.


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: GUEST,Eckieboy
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 08:04 AM

Inglismaldie Castle stands near the banks of the North Esk in Inglismaldie Woods.
Near to the villages of Luthermuir and Edzell on the border between Angus and Aberdeenshire.
Older local refer to this place as Inglesmaddy.


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Subject: RE: Shy Geordie
From: GUEST,Arthur Hannan
Date: 18 May 15 - 05:26 AM

Not sure about the inglis bit but maddy may be gaelic (madidh) for fox


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