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Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)

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Subject: High Fly the Goose
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 14 Jun 02 - 11:02 AM

I'm guessing on the title of this song. When I was quite young my family had a Fess Parker record that had a pretty lullaby on it with a Native American theme. The chorus as I remember it was:

"High fly the goose, my little papoose,
The bright apple falls from the bough.
The trembling leaf knows the north wind's a thief,
And you shall sleep somehow, somehow.
And you shall sleep somehow."


Anyone out there know the rest of the words?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: High Fly the Goose
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Jul 02 - 02:53 AM

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: High Fly the Goose
From: GUEST,Allen W.
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 07:59 PM

The song is a lullaby by Fess Parker the title is Hunter's Return


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Subject: Lyr Add: HUNTER'S RETURN (Fess Parker)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 10:31 AM

Thanks to Allen W., I was able to find the song, download it, and transcribe it.

HUNTER'S RETURN is on an album "Cowboy and Indian Songs" by Fess Parker, released 1957 by Walt Disney Records. I downloaded the album from here and transcribed the song myself:


HUNTER'S RETURN
As sung by Fess Parker*

1. A young Indian mother with anxious eyes
Sat by a cradle 'neath sullen skies.
Her warrior, her hunter, had not returned,
But bravely to her babe she turned.

CHORUS: High flies the goose, my little papoose.
The bright apple falls from the bough.
The trembling leaf knows the north wind's a thief,
But you will sleep somehow, somehow,
But you will sleep somehow.

2. [SPOKEN] The frost of the wind chilled the empty rack
Where once had hung meat and corn by the sack.
With fear in her heart, she turned to the child,
And as wolves closed in, she sang and she smiled.

3. Then a knife she drew from her tattered shawl,
Watched the brown-eyed child clutch a sheepskin doll.
The wolves would make certain he didn't know.
If he ever returned, they would lie 'neath the snow.

4. Then faint on the wind a hi-yi-yo,
The clip-clop of burros patient and slow.
Her warrior hunter at last had returned.
There was food; there were furs; to the babe she turned.


[* I was unable to find any confirmation that he wrote it.]

Yikes! This lullaby might be comforting to a baby, but it ain't comforting to me. What exactly was she gonna do with that knife?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: High Fly the Goose
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 10:43 AM

The lines don't make much sense, but the knife is for scaring away the wolves.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: High Fly the Goose
From: MMario
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 10:55 AM

No, the knife is to kill her child and herself before the wolves do, or before they starve.

"The wolves would make certain he didn't know"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: High Fly the Goose
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 01:56 PM

"Kill her child and herself" – yeah, that's what I was afraid it meant, and that's exactly why I consider the song too creepy to be a suitable lullaby.

Yeah, I know, some kids have been lulled to sleep with murder ballads, and even "when the bough breaks, the baby will fall"—from a treetop, no less—is kinda scary when you think about it. But I'd prefer to keep knives and wolves and starvation out of lullabies altogether. Even a happy ending isn't enough to redeem it.

But the song is full of incongruities.

Why is the chorus full of images of autumn, while the story takes place in winter? (Not impossible, but strange.)

Why is the family isolated, and not living in a village?

If the wolves are meant to be portrayed as predators (they are "closing in"), then the song merely perpetuates a myth about wolves. In fact wolf attacks on humans are extremely rare. Choosing suicide (or infanticide) rather than risking a wolf attack doesn't make sense.

Choosing suicide rather than starvation doesn't make much sense, either, since her husband could return at any time.

When and where did Indians use burros rather than horses?

Why did the hunter not anticipate that his family would run out of food during his absence?

Why did he need to be gone so long?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: High Fly the Goose
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 02:45 PM

1957 Disney Records


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,Shorty Muldoon's daughter
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 04:15 AM

You have a very weak picture of real life except for the second half of the twentieth century in America. The imagery is not of seasons, rather of reconciling oneself with the inevitability of mortality. People went where they must to survive, not always in the "safety" of a village. Even today, deep snow can prevent travel of any kind, food is hard to find in the wild in winter, and there were scores of reasons why a husband could die or be trapped unable to return in deep snow. Burros are common and were common in those days. Tough little animals for riding and pack animals. You should meet one sometime. They were good allies for indians and white men as well. There are still a goodly number of wild burros left in the western United states today.

Don't you know why the Hunter went out hunting? Perhaps it was because the food was running low already and he knew he must do the only thing he could to bring food for his family. He did it every time when food ran low. He went out no matter the weather and did his best to bring something home. Even if he was scared to death, he went. He couldn't hurry faster because he got caught in the storm or couldn't find rabbits or deer. He was not out partying with friends. Should he have driven over to Wal Mart perhaps? And the sacks of corn were empty because they had to eat them but had no way to plant and harvest again til spring and wouldn't be ready till fall. Things take time to grow and work and rain and harvesting. This is real life for almost everyone who has ever lived in the history of this world. That little woman was terrified, hungry and freezing cold, afraid her little child would suffer and die and she could not protect him. Wolves dont seem to attack humans much but there may have been some very hungry wolves at times too. If they were outside your tent, would you be afraid? There is not always someone to rescue us. Sometimes even today, people starve for similar reasons all over the world.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,shorty's daughter
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 04:33 AM

Also Jim, Shorty used to play his guitar and sing this song to us when we were little. We must have known life better than most today, because we got it that it was an awesome tale of courage and love. Shorty grew up in the wild west and he lived it. Nowadays people don't expect adversity.   This is hard to explain, but the ending gives incredible hope to people who understand . I think this is an old song because we heard it long ago.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 04:47 AM

Hmmmm..

The Hunter's Return is the title of what seems to be a very well known, not to say iconic, image of the American West.
Click here . Very Fess Parker!

Wonder if the song was intended as a reimagining of the idea in Native American terms? Can we pin down whether Parker wrote it or even claimed it? Copyright info?

Curious.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 04:49 AM

Cross-posted with GUESTShorty'sdaughter...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,julia L
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 12:29 PM

I sing a song about a woman and child freezing to death in the snow (related to "The Month of January") On the surface, it seems a bit maudlin and one might ask a number of questions about the circumstances. Yet, my husband's grandmother was in this very situation (though she survived) and we read in the news last week about people freezing to death in snowbanks in central Europe. Certainly, there are romantic images of indigenous cultures and previous epochs, but there is also elemental truth about what they had to deal with. Rather than pass judgment on the truth of the information in the song, shouldn't we try to understand it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,Guest Andi
Date: 27 Apr 12 - 05:04 PM

The song was written by Stan Jones (author of Ghost Riders in the Sky).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 01 Aug 14 - 04:09 AM

I remember the song, we had the album and used to listen to it in the early sixties. First it was a beautiful song, and I mean beautiful. So stop picking on it. The words were like that in lots of songs back then for children, as were stories as they helped children become accustomed with the hardships of life. Lots of children's stories took on such themes as well. It was a different time I suppose but don't knock it till you've tried it at least. We liked it.

But as I recall the song (and I haven't heard it in 50 years or so), the words were more like "hush cried the goose, my little papoose, the bright apple falls to the ground. Over trembling leaves, or the voices of thieves, but you must sleep somehow somehow. Yes you must sleep somehow".

That's how I remember the words, but that's just from memory.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 14 - 02:39 PM

There may be a short clip of the song in this YouTube video. It froze on me early on, and I'm not interested enough to wrestle with YouTube/ISP glitches through the whole clip myself. Someone else can have at it and report if there's anything of interest, maybe give a list of songs previewed and at what timings.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 01 Aug 14 - 10:13 PM

Thanks, you guys were right. I just listened to it and the words above are correct, at least for the first verse. Its possible that there was a last verse where he said the voices of thieves,(i seem to remember that for some reason) but in this verse he definitely says

"High flies the goose, my little papoose.
The bright apple falls from the bough.
The trembling leaf knows the north wind's a thief".

The song starts at 5:05 on the you tube video but only runs the first chorus.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,D.T. Rawerts
Date: 05 Feb 16 - 10:45 AM

Here they are:

HUNTER'S RETURN
As sung by Fess Parker*

1. A young Indian mother with anxious eyes
Sat by a cradle 'neath sullen skies.
Her warrior, her hunter, had not returned,
But bravely to her babe she turned.

CHORUS: High flies the goose, my little papoose.
The bright apple falls from the bough.
The trembling leaf knows the north wind's a thief,
But you will sleep somehow, somehow,
But you will sleep somehow.

2. [SPOKEN] The frost of the wind chilled the empty rack
Where once had hung meat and corn by the sack.
With fear in her heart, she turned to the child,
And as wolves closed in, she sang and she smiled.

Chorus

3. Then a knife she drew from her tattered shawl,
Watched the brown-eyed child clutch a sheepskin doll.
The wolves would make certain he didn't know.
If he ever returned, they would lie 'neath the snow.

Chorus

4. Then faint on the wind a hi-yi-yo,
The clip-clop of burros patient and slow.
Her warrior hunter at last had returned.
There was food; there were furs; to the babe she turned.


dtrawerts@yahoo.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 05 Feb 16 - 11:47 AM

The lyrics were posted in this thread already. See

Subject: Lyr Add: HUNTER'S RETURN (Fess Parker)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 10:31 AM


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hunter's Return (Fess Parker)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 17 - 09:24 PM

A young Indian mother with anxious eyes
Sat by her...
Her Indian warrior had not returned
But bravely to her baby she turned


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