Origins: Ye Mariners All / A Jug of This

Subject: Lyr Add: A JUG OF THIS
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 11:04 PM

The ballad from the Bodleian Library linked by Malcolm Douglas.

Lyr. Add: A Jug of This

You tiplers all as you pass by
Call in and drink if you be dry
Call in and drink think it not amiss
To pawn my shirt for a jug of this.

You mariners all if you have a crown
You are welcome here to sit all down
Come spend my lads your money brisk
And pop your nose in a jug of this.

Now I am bound unto some Spanish shore
Where thundering cannons loud will roar
Crown my desire fulfil my wish
A pretty girl and a jug of tiis.

Now I'm grown old and scarce can crawl
With my grey beard and my head bald
Transform me now into a fish
That I may swim in a jug of this.

When I am dead and in my grave
And all my sorrows past and fled
Crown my desire fulfill my wish
Write on my tomb a jug of this.

J. Pitts, London. Between 1819-1844.
Harding B16(120c)

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Ye Mariners All
From: Fiddlem
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 01:43 PM

Thanks everyone.. that's really useful!! Now all's left to do is to learn it!!

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Ye Mariners All
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 02:50 AM

Those are both arrangements of the 'Penguin' set, not traditional versions in their own right.

Subject: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL + A JUG OF THIS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 02:34 AM

This might get lost in the other thread, so I'll copy-paste it here.

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Thread #64451   Message #1087194
Posted By: GUEST,Roberto
18-Nov-03 - 12:52 PM
Thread Name: Looking for a few good drinking songs...
Subject: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL and A JUG OF THIS

My favourite drinking song, in two beautiful recordings:


Ye Mariners All

a) Ye Mariners All, Martin Carthy, in Martin Carthy, Topic TSCD340 (1993), first released as Fontana STL 5269 (LP, 1965)

Ye mariners all as ye pass by
Come in and drink when you are dry
Spend my lads your money brisk
And pop your nose in a jug of this

Ye tipplers all as you pass by
Come in and sit if you are dry
Spend my lads your money brisk
And pop your nose in a jug of this

Ye tipplers all if you've half a crown
You're welcome all for to sit down
Come in sit down, think not amiss
To pop your nose in a jug of this

Oh now I'm old and can scarcely crawl
I've got a long grey beard and a head that's bald
Crown my desire, fulfil my bliss
A pretty young girl and a jug of this

And when I'm in my grave and dead
And all my sorrows are past and fled,
Transform me then into a fish
Come let me swim in a jug of this

Ye mariners all as ye pass by
Come in and drink when you are dry
Come in sit down, think not amiss
To pop your nose in a jug of this

b) A jug of this, A. L. Lloyd, English Drinking Songs, Topic TSCD496 (original lp release, 1961)

You mar'ners all as you pass by
Call in and drink if you are dry
Come spend me lads your money brisk
And pop your nose in a jug of this

You tipplers all if you've half a crown
You're welcome all for to sit down
So call your drinks, think not amiss
And pop your nose in a jug of this

Oh now I'm old and can scarcely crawl
I've an old grey beard and a head that's bald
Crown my desire and fulfil me bliss
A pretty young girl and a jug of this

And when I'm in me grave and dead
And all me sorrows are past and fled
Transform me then into a fish
And let me swim in a jug of this

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Ye Mariners All
From: Roughyed
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 01:42 AM

There is a Halfway House between Yeovil and Ilchester but I don't know one between Yeovil and Sherbourne. Anyone local to enlighten me?

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Ye Mariners All
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 02:18 PM

One of my best songs ;-)

John Renbourn and Jackie McShee sing this on John's Live In America album Great version


YE MARINERS ALL

Ye mariners all as ye pass by,
come in and drink if you are dry,
Come spend my lads your money brisk,
and pop your nose in a jug of this.

Oh mariners all if you've half a crown,
you're welcome all for to sit down,
come spend my lads your money brisk,
and pop your nose in a jug of this.

Oh tipplers all as you pass by,
come in and drink if you are dry,
come in and drink think nought amiss,
and pop your nose in a jug of this.

Oh now I'm old and can scarcely crawl,
aye a long grey beard and a head that’s bald,
crown my desire, fulfill my bliss,
a pretty girl and a jug of this.

Oh when I'm in my grave and dead,
and all my sorrows are past and fled,
transform me then into a fish,
and let me swim in a jug of this.

Recorded by John Renbourn Group "Live In America" Flying Fish Records 1982^^^

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Ye Mariners All
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 01:29 PM

There sure isn't much on this song in the Traditional Ballad Index - it lists just the version in the Penguin Book (which is the version in the Digital Tradition).

Ye Mariners All

DESCRIPTION: Singer, a sailor, describes the joys of booze and urges all to share them.
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1838
KEYWORDS: drink nonballad sailor
FOUND IN: Britain(England(Lond,South))
REFERENCES (2 citations):
Vaughan Williams/Lloyd, p. 103, "Ye Mar'ners All" (1 text, 1 tune)
DT, MARNERSA*
Roud #1191
RECORDINGS:
A. L. Lloyd, "A Jug of This" (on Lloyd12)
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "The Butcher Boy" (tune)
File: VWL103

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ye mariners all
From: Danks
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 10:06 AM

The first person I heard sing this song was Hughie Jones of The Spinners in a long defunct Liverpool folkclub ( not only the folkclub is defunct, but also the pub it was held in!!). I thought Hughie sang it really well. I think A L Lloyd sang it also. And hasn't Seth Lakeman done a "job" on it?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ye mariners all
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 10:05 AM

It's here

Subject: Lyr Req: ye mariners all
From: Fiddlem
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 09:51 AM

Does anyone know the lyrics for this song? I only have the Tim van Eyken version (which I really like by the way!!) but I've never really heard it anywhere else so would be interested to see if there are any other versions out there (I'm sure there will be!!)

Thanks!

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 10:34 AM

The song appeared in The Penguin Book of English Folk Songs (1959), which would be the ultimate source for most if not all revival sets. H.E.D. Hammond noted it from Mrs. Marina Russell of Upwey, Dorset, in 1907; to begin with, he thought that she had sung Mourners, and he printed the song as such in The Journal of the Folk Song Society, vol.III issue 11, 1907. Frank Kidson pointed out that another version, entitled A Jug of This, noted in Wiltshire in 1857 and having a different tune, had appeared in Barrett's English Folk-Songs (1891); it was clear from that that the word should be Mariners. Hammond agreed, noting that mar'ners appeared in Hardy's The Mayor of Casterbridge as a dialectal form of mariners.

It's hardly surprising that it's hard to find the song in the DT if you don't know some of all that!

Mrs. Russell had a fine memory for tunes, but was apt to forget the words; so that the set Hammond published was in fact her tune with almost all of the text coming from another variant noted from W. Haines of Halfway House, between Yeoville and Sherbourne. He sang it to a tune related to Mrs. Russell's, but in the major.

The song appeared on broadsides of the 19th century; examples can be seen at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads, including:

Jug of this ("You tiplers all as you pass by ...")  Printed between 1819 and 1844 by J. Pitts, 6, Great st Andrew street, 7 Dials [London].

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 10:25 AM

yup greg - you are correct - but the text I copied did it this way - which is why I did.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL
From: greg stephens
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 10:14 AM

"Mariners" may be a more suitable spelling for the title in terms of searching for the song. But "mar'ners" is surely appropriate for writing out the song(as is done in the Penguin Book ).Mmario's tune clearly has one note for the syllable "mar'", and not two for "mari". In practise the truth is somewhere in between, the second syllable being very minimal, more of a roll on the "r"

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 10:00 AM

@#$*())(*&^%$R%^&!!!!

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL
From: IanC
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 10:00 AM

Thought it was already in the DT.

It's here ... the spelling's just not too useful.

:-)
Ian

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: YE MARINERS ALL
From: Wolfgang
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 09:51 AM

Look also the thread aptly titled Lyr. Req: Need a song

Wolfgang

Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: YE MARINERS ALL
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 09:38 AM

Okay - this seems to be pretty well known (based on the number of recordings I saw listed for it) but I can't find it in the DT or the Forum - so here it is.

YE MARINERS ALL

Ye mariners all, as ye pass by
Come in and drink if you are dry
Come spend, me lads, your money brisk
And pop your nose in a jug of this

Oh mariners all, if you've half a crown
You're welcome all for to sit down
Come spend, me lads, your money brisk
And pop your nose in a jug of this

Oh tipplers all, as you pass by
Come in and drink if you are dry
Come in and drink, think not amiss
And pop your nose in a jug of this

Oh now I'm old and can scarcely crawl
I've a long grey beard and a head that's bald
Crown my desire, fulfill my bliss
A pretty girl and a jug of this

And when I'm in my grave and dead
And all my sorrows are past and fled
Transform me then into a fish
And let me swim in a jug of this

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