Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can

Subject: Very vague, but help if you can
From: GUEST,E.M. Forster
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 03:13 AM

Hi. I heard a tune a while back, but didn't catch the name of it. It's a humorous Irish tune and it's basically about this girl that that can't get a husband because every time she courts a boy, she finds out that he is actually one of her wild father's children. By the end of the song, she is at her wits end until her mother informs her that the man she thinks is her father really isn't! confusing and vague I know, but any help is appreciated. Thanks much! Feel free to mail me if you like. Eric [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: masato sakurai
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 03:50 AM

The song is in the DT as Johnny Be Fair and SHAME AND SCANDAL.

See also previous threads:

Scandal in the Family

Mixed Up Family

seeking song about girl w/ promiscuous father

Father oh Father - looking for related songs

~Masato

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: Stewie
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 05:14 AM

I recalled contributing to another thread about 'Shame and Scandal':

Click

Not that it moves this thread forward any, but I do have a soft spot for Buddy Bohn - whomsoever he is/was - because he was part of my earliest collection of 'folk' stuff, along with the Chad Mitchell Trio, Clancys, Corries, NLCRs etc, lodestars all to the real McCoy.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: GUEST,Jim McLean
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 01:18 PM

There's a humorous song by The Kerries on a Major Minor LP 1967 called McTaggart. I can transcrbe the song if you want when I get a minute, but the gist of it is that McTaggart falls in love with various girls only to be told by his father that '....Blood is thicker than water, I've sown wild oat from John O' Groats and Jeanie/Rosie etc is my daughter' The last verse concerns McTaggart telling his mother who informs him that ' ..you can mary Jeannie/Rose etc because your father's not your father' Cheers, Jim Mclean

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: vectis
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 04:26 PM

I thought Shame and Scandal was a calypso. I have always assumed that Lance Percival writ it.

Fol de rol de riddle rol.....

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 05:14 PM

Isn't that a Jamaican song? Or maybe it's universal. Come to think of it, genetic evidence points that way.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 08:39 PM

There are several different (and unrelated) songs based on the same old joke, most of which have already been mentioned; so far as I can tell, they are all modern compositions, though the one recorded by Harry Belafonte appears to have been modelled on an older song on a different subject. The one that people tend to imagine is Irish is the one written by Buffy Ste. Marie; she set it to a traditional tune known in Ireland (though also in America and other countries) which is probably where the misunderstanding crept in.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: GUEST,Derrick
Date: 05 Feb 21 - 09:24 AM

According to Wikipedia the song was written for a film in 1943 by calypso singer Sir Lancelot.

See here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shame_and_Scandal_in_the_Family

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Very vague, but help if you can
From: The Og
Date: 05 Feb 21 - 01:29 PM

I've sung "Shame and Scandal" to a Calypso beat, but the basic plot can be transcribed to any genre