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Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.

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Subject: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: little john cameron
Date: 19 Aug 02 - 05:38 PM

Here's some interesting anecdotes regarding Dylans early days.Peter,Paul and Mary talk about Dylan


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: Jim McLean
Date: 19 Aug 02 - 06:37 PM

I was around with Dylan in the early 60's, in London. I asked Martin Carthy to let him sing as a floor singer in a London folk club where Martin was the compere and Dylan did his Woody act and was very good. I had a few discussions with him --- he actually asked me if I was Hamish Henderson --- and he wondered why McColl was living in a nice house!! I'm afraid both of us were stoned most of the time, he on pot and I on whisky but us Scottish folkies who were writing republican and anti-polaris songs thought he was a pop singer with rather pretentious and weak political songs (our opinions!). It was also aggravating to see his manager, Al Grossman, recording the Saturday night folk session at the Troubadour where a wealth of traditional (and not so traditional) songs were sung. The tapes were taken back to their hotel and gave birth to various Dylan originals like 'God on our side', 'Pretty Peggy-o' etc. I think it was Liam Clancy who commented on the fact that one of Dylan's songs were written to the harmony of a song as the microphone was placed too near to the 'harmony' singer! I discussed Dominic Behan's Patriot Game with Dylan and, leaving aside the tune, his verse 'My name it means nothing, my age it means less' shows that he wrote his song after studying Dominic's ' My name is O'Hanlon, my age is sixteen'. He was a decent kid surrounded by pot heads, and driven straight into the arms of big business, but he could do a great Woody Guthrie! Cheers, Jim Mclean


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 02 - 06:44 PM

Whatever, Jim

He's a hell of a lot wealthier than you


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: Jim McLean
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 03:19 AM

Hi Guest, and so is Jeffrey Archer. Jim McLean


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: Hrothgar
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 07:03 AM

And you are not in jail, are you, Jim?

:-)


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: bob jr
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 12:23 PM

pretty peggy-o was on dylans first album that came out well before he ever sat foot in england


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: Jim McLean
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 01:44 PM

When did he record Pretty Peggy O and have you heard The Bonnie Lass o Fyfie? Cheers, Jim Mclean


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: bob jr
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 02:02 PM

he recorded it in 1960 and 61. when he toured in the 1990s he switched his versions from his "comic" take on the song on the first record to the more serious traditional lyrics and melody.


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: Jim McLean
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 04:42 PM

Hi Bob jr, Pretty Peggy O, Dylan's version, was recorded (and copyrighted) in 1962. He visited England before that on an invite to do some acting but as I recall that fell through. I'll get the exact dates for you later. Cheers, Jim Mclean


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: bob jr
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 10:41 PM

actually dylan recorded his version in 1961 in december and it was released in march of 1962. he came to england in dec of 1962 to appear in the play "madhouse on castle street" and also made a couple of appearances in folk clubs where he met martin carthy who taught him a couple of songs he would utilize for his own compositions...lord franklin and carthys version of scarborough fair.


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: michaelr
Date: 20 Aug 02 - 11:05 PM

What's all this fuss about? I thought it was common knowledge that Dylan bastardized all manner of trad British songs in his early days -- before he really found his own voice.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 03:39 AM

Thanks for the details Bob jr. Actually I introduced him to Martin whose version of Scarborough Fair is straight out of McColl's The Singing Island 1960. Cheers, Jim Mclean


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: Jim McLean
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 03:41 AM

Sorry, forgot to log in! Jim McLean


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: saulgoldie
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 06:24 PM

Does anyone else still play "Blowin In The Wind" or am I just a holdout?

Saul


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Subject: RE: Blowin in the wind. P-P @M.
From: GUEST,999
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 06:29 PM

Once in a while, Saul. I keep PPMs version on the computer so I can hear their singing/harmonies and watch the intensity of Mary when she belts out the lyrics. She's into it during that performance. The song itself is still being played by some folk-influenced people around here, and I've heard singers in a few cities doing it. I think it's great that some younger people are beginning to question things again, and they ain't afraid to sing it.


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