BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)

Subject: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 02:12 PM

Does anyone else think that 'Loch Foyle to Carlingford Loch' lacks the innate poetry of 'Carlingford Loch to Loch Foyle'? They'll be after Sandetty Light Vessel Automatic next! (I apologise if the names are not spelled correctly - I only hear them, and half-asleep at that)

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: cyder_drinker
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 04:06 PM

Bring back Finisterre!!!
Who the hell is Fitzroy anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 04:31 PM

At least we still have Fair Isle, Forties and Dogger. Evocotave names if ever there was such a thing.

Click here if completely bemused.

It won't explain the inate poetry of it though...

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 04:45 PM

Where the hell is Heligoland.Roaring Forties

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 04:48 PM

And Paddy McGinty`s goat sent them back to Heligoland from the west coast of Ireland. Roaring Forties.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 06:06 PM

if you want real poetry, try les barker's 'the shipping forecast'

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Cappuccino
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 07:19 PM

It was years before I realised that the shipping forecast areas went round britain in a certain order.

Cue 'Sailing By...'

(This thread won't mean a thing in America, will it?)

- Ian B

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Gareth
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 07:19 PM

Roaring Fourties - Try the Southern Hemisphere - 40degrees South on the Clipper run to Australia, and back

BTW " Off the North Coast of Ireland, one Morning there was seen,
As plain as a Pike Staff, a German Submarine,
Maloney the Coast Gaurd, went off into a fit,
So said Paddy McGinty's Goat, it's up to me to do me bit.!

He jumped into the water, as frisky as a Whale<
And he swam up to that U-Boat, and he wagged his little tail,
Down went his horns, and he stuck them in that boat,
He sent those huns to Heligoland, did Paddy McGinty's Goat"

Provenance - I learn't this at my Grandmothers knee (and a County Cork girl were she - One Briget Murphy) amoungst other songs.

Date. 1916-1918 when those words were written.

There's another story there but that will wait for a suitable thread.

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: michaelr
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 07:23 PM

Helgoland is an island in the area that map calls German Bight -- a few miles offshore from the mouth of the river Elbe.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: michaelr
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 07:27 PM

oops, submitted too soon :-)

"Green is the land,
Red is the (kant = German for rim, the island has steep red-rock cliffs)
White is the strand
Those are the colours of Helgoland."

...and that's their own flag, too.

Michael

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: brid widder
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 07:32 PM

North & South Ooots Era aren't as exciting now I know they are spelt 'Hutsire'

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Gareth
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 07:36 PM

Re: The US of A, perhaps - but can any nautical US of A Catter provide the American sea area's version ?

Just interested !

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Amos
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 08:46 PM

Our version of what, Gareth? Highly ambiguous proposition, old boy! L:>)

A

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: michaelr
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 09:53 PM

He's talking about the nautical weather forecast, Amos... or meaybe the movie "The Shipping News"!

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 11:11 PM

It lacks.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 11:16 PM

This is a music forum....

Next time...please...leave the B.S. off of the prefix...

Your postings is closer to the "mission statment" than 30% of the other garbage.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: My guru always said
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 04:18 AM

Thanks 'Guest' for the blueclicky! Another piece of life's puzzle explained, thank heaven's for BS, *s*

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 05:32 AM

Fitzroy, shot Jack Dougan, The Wild Colonial Boy. Or should it be "bouy" in this context. Again this will be lost on our pals in the US, as they pronounce this word as booee.
? What common language?.....Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Emma B
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 11:54 AM

An carraig aonair - the lonely rock So much more poetic than Fastnet!

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 03:22 PM

I love Les Barker's version. And I think he had to know and love the shipping forecast to be able to make such a good job of it. The whole rhythm of the forecast is very evocative. There's definitely nostalgia involved cos I heard it regularly as a child: the romance of unknown places. Then there's religion - the regions as liturgy. And there's certainly something about lying in a warm bed thinking of all those storm-tossed sailors...better stop, before someone puts out a porn alert! Best of all, Whitby gets a regular mention.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Mr Red
Date: 01 Sep 02 - 01:40 PM

'Loch Foyle to Carlingford Loch' is this governed by the prvailing circular current arounf the north Atlantic?
but what do I know - Rockall!

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Gareth
Date: 01 Sep 02 - 03:21 PM

Or as an old Yachty once said to me :-

"It's better being in the bar wishing you were at sea, than at sea, wishing you were in the bar !"

BTW What are the USA weather areas ????

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Sep 02 - 01:18 PM

Wyrd Sister, there is something nostalgic to lie in bed on wild winter`s night and go around the storm battered coasts listening to those magic names,Malin`s lighthouse be4ing swamped with mighty Atlantic waves and meself rolled up in bed. AHHHH.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Hrothgar
Date: 03 Sep 02 - 04:30 AM

Was it the Monty Python people who did the weather forecast as a Gregorian chant? Magnificient, it was, the only time I heard it.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 03 Sep 02 - 06:56 AM

Fitzroy was, at one stage, captain of the Beagle with a certain Charles Darwin aboard. Click here for some background

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: mooman
Date: 03 Sep 02 - 07:03 AM

Does anyone remember the old story of the the BBC Scotland radio broadcast?

Apparently it was an "end of news" amusing story about a fisherman who had been attacked by an alsation and had scared off the dog by biting its ear. This was the last item of news and was immediately followed by the shipping forecast

"...and now the shipping forecast...Dogger, Fisher, German Bight...!"

mooman

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: greg stephens
Date: 03 Sep 02 - 07:37 AM

Rain.Good.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: JudeL
Date: 03 Sep 02 - 07:54 AM

reminiscent of a Goons sketch where the interview to be a BBC radio presenter apparently consisted of being able to pronounce winds light to variable in an incredibly plummy accent!

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Schantieman
Date: 03 Sep 02 - 09:23 AM

Apparently Finisterre (I was 42 before I realised the this is Latin for 'end of the world', which it was in those days) was replaced by Fitzroy because some other system (Italian, perhaps?) used Finisterre and the good old EU were trying to harmonize everything.

I agree about the poetry - the southern North Sea and eastern Channel in particular:

Dogger, Fisher, German Bight
Humber, Thames, Dover, Wight.

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 02 - 07:22 AM

And wild Valentia of the Kerry cost in south west Ireland, the home of the legendary Mick O`Connell one of Ireland`s greatest Gaelic football players,

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Schantieman
Date: 04 Sep 02 - 11:52 AM

Ah, yes, Valentia. Not a shipping forecast area (or an orange!) but one of the coastal stations, along with Boulmer (pronounced Boomer, for those who don't have access to it) and my local one, Liverpool(Crosby) at 2300.

Anyone know why some of them regularly send in their measurements at different times? The Crosby one is manned round the clock, so it can't be lack of staff. Maybe they just forget!

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Declan
Date: 04 Sep 02 - 12:11 PM

Boulmer may not have been prepared to release their data on the latest media until they'd sold off the vinyl copies !

My father worked for the Irish Meteorological service and was stationed in Valentia Observatory (which as far as I know is actually in the town of Cahirsiveen in Kerry rather than on the island itself) back in the late 50s/early 60s. I expect all the stations send in their observations at the same intervals, but it may take whoever collates these centrally a while to get them all in, so they use the latest one they've got, but there's probably a totally illogical explanation.

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 11:14 PM

Charlotte Green does it best, I often stay up to hear her do it!

Subject: RE: BS: Shipping Forecast (UK)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Sep 02 - 02:45 PM

So!! It's because of you that she stays out late. There I am lying in bed waiting for her to come home, and every night there's some weak excuse.
Adjacent to Cromarty....Giok