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The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 29 Jun 03 - 09:51 AM If I can ever get my banjo to playin the same key as what you guys are in, we could have taht also :) |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Bobo Date: 30 Jun 03 - 09:54 AM Tune it to standard open G banjo tuning. Use one of the CA-30 Korg tuners. Buy a capo. Now, here you go: 75% of the songs are in G or A. The rest are in B, Bb or D. And an occasional F. However... learning G and A patterns will allow you to play 3 out of 4 songs. Capo at the second fret for A key songs. And with Fred, Laurie and me... G & A allows you more like 95%. That will be $5 please, please move up to the next window... |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 30 Jun 03 - 07:31 PM I do use open G tuning...I have a QWIK TUNE tuner with clip on cable...but whenever we play I don't sound in tune with the others...We'll have to try it one Saturday when I can get there early! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Bobo Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:29 AM Well, let's fix that. You are missing out on a lot of fun and that's not right. So, maybe we can tackle the problem this week! I am determined to get you pickin'. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 02 Jul 03 - 03:40 PM I'm game...see you then!! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Bobo Date: 08 Jul 03 - 10:56 PM OK, now do we meet at The Bluegrass Shop early, like noon, or what? We will arrive 12:30 or slightly later unless somebody speaks up... |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Gern Date: 09 Jul 03 - 10:25 AM Can't make it this week; I'll be paddling down in Sanibel. Did I mention finishing 5th in the Treasure Island Kayak race last week? I might have won, but I was weighed down by the banjo stuffed into my hatch. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 09 Jul 03 - 06:13 PM I didn't know Treasure Island nah kayak races. Congratulations on you fifth place finish! I don't know why you would stuff the banjo into the hatch...isn't that what you use to paddle with? Bobo, I have to run some errands Saturday morning, and cannot promise that I can make it right at twelve. I will say that I will be there as soon as I can get there. I will have my I have to take a dog to the vet and possibly take my mother to look at refrigerators at the Sears and Roebuck scratch and dent warehouse. (If my nerves are still intatct after that outing I will be there soon as I get done) |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Bobo Date: 09 Jul 03 - 10:33 PM I am planning on 12:30ish. Congrats there Gern! You would'a won if you had used a dobro and wuz wearin' a beautiful Hawaiian shirt. Kayaks like that. Go faster. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Wesley S Date: 10 Jul 03 - 01:26 PM I had hoped to pop in and say hello last Saturday since the family was in town from Texas. We stayed down on Johns Pass for the week for a family reunion. Unfortunatly my wife had booked our travel days for Saturday. So while y'all were playing I was going through security over at Tampa airport. It was good to be back home again and see some of the places I grew up, but I sorry I couldn't fit in a visit. Perhaps next year. I didn't even get to Haslams book store. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 11 Jul 03 - 10:00 PM Yes, Wes, we did miss ya...I had hoped to meet you, but it was not to be...maybe next year! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Earl Jr. Date: 12 Jul 03 - 10:05 AM Hey Banjer. In town from Rosine, Kentucky. Planning to be there today. Can you take some time before or after the jam to show me some licks and songs? See you there. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Big Red Date: 12 Jul 03 - 11:11 AM Hey Earl, Jr., are you the picker in "Bluegrass Express"? I have your last CD and you're larupin' good! By the by, I believe we might have met each other back in '84 in Rosine. Hope to see you at the jam. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Big Red Date: 13 Jul 03 - 12:32 PM Earl, Jr... where were you? I saw several new faces, but not yours. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: GUEST,Earl Jr. Date: 13 Jul 03 - 12:35 PM Hey. I just turned on the computer. Yesterday was rough. Went to breakfast with Lureen, Delmar and Bud and we got drunk. Kind of lasted all day, or something. You remember Bubba, the left handed mandolin player? But I will be in town until the middle of August. Next week I will try to make it. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 14 Jul 03 - 09:54 AM Had a great time jamming with the group, plus Mike Godwin on Saturday! What a treat. Mike is one of the best musicians around these parts, and a great human being to boot! Laurie and I plan to arrive noonish on Saturday, July 19 for the "early" group. Anybody else? |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Gern Date: 14 Jul 03 - 10:39 AM I'd like to think I'll be there, although I plan this time to avoid the tamales next door. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 14 Jul 03 - 07:46 PM I will probably be there with my openback banjo...Hopefully we'll get to pick a little. Bobo is right, this past Saturday's jam was one of the better ones in recent memory! Some of the close harmony we heard in those gospel numbers was outstanding. When they did 'Are You Washed In The Blood?' it was fanatstic with the multi part singing. Pete will be away for about four weeks, hope Big Jim can cover the lead vocals for him! We amy all have to try to do lead for Bob's tenor... |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 14 Jul 03 - 09:37 PM Ah, grasshopper... but can the tamales avoid you? What is the sound of one colon clapping? See you there! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 20 Jul 03 - 10:37 PM Saturday was not the best session we have had. No bass player, and I found it impossible to play the one in the corner of the shop. Everybody that tried felt the same. Got a major blister on my right hand in just two songs trying to generate some volume by picking hard and keep the timing... which I didn't. Frustrating. Gern was there but left before we had finished having a good time. Enjoyed what we did share anyways. Next Saturday, Laurie is working. However, I will be there. Probably 12:30-ish. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Gern Date: 21 Jul 03 - 10:18 AM I guess I was a little annoyed, singing a song only to have someone burst in the shop and start playing a tape. Didn't feel particularly appreciated at that point. Those who come later sometimes act like we don't count, or that the real show doesn't start until 1:30 or so. I'm sure it's inadvertant, and probably more my problem than theirs. It's still nice to have a place to play. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 21 Jul 03 - 02:32 PM No, it's not your problem. It's manners. Well you missed the real fun when that same person insulted me for being "off time" on that old bass. He said, it was not the instrument it was my timing and then started telling me how to play it and I said, "After 35 years of playing bass, I don't think I need lessons." Actually I should have said "...from someone who can't play bass..." But, I try to ignore that. Next time we just say, "Do you mind waiting until we are done?" Heck, we ain't shy. What little we did squeeze in was fun. Would have been more fun for another half hour or so. Laurie likes our early sessions so she can experiment with tunes and timing. Thinks you are a hoot. Next week or a fortnight from now? |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Gern Date: 21 Jul 03 - 03:06 PM I've been called lots of four-letter words, but never a 'hoot.' I won't be there this Saturday, and maybe not the next either. The latest influx of in-laws starts this weekend, and it may take time to kick them all out. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 21 Jul 03 - 03:27 PM But just think how quiet it will be in two weeks. Until then, you are the Entertainment Committee, right? |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Gern Date: 21 Jul 03 - 03:40 PM That's exactly how it goes. But we enjoy it, in moderation... |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 21 Jul 03 - 03:53 PM Anything done in moderation cannot be that much fun. In perspective, better than no fun, however. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 21 Jul 03 - 05:55 PM Sounds like I missed the first half of a brewing broohaha!! The person you all are refering to is exactly the reason I leave my banjo in the case more often than not. I KNOW I can't play worth diddly, and I don't need to be told. I will admit he is a good scruggs type player, but I don't think he can do anything but! I did catch the latter part where Bobo was told he couldn't stay in time. Oh well, Pete and Ed will both be back soon! What if???? We went next door and sat in the corner and played. It would be away from the mainstream and be free entertaiment for the hot dog store! (and maybe an occasional free hot dog, of course for ME to stop playing it would cost him more than a hotdog!, you guys can name your own terms also!) Let's not take it too seriously, it will pass. See whomever next Saturday! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: mmb Date: 21 Jul 03 - 06:17 PM I am intrigued by the mentions of "the early group," and would like to hear more about what time you start. I attended the 1:30 session a few times last Fall, and didn't enjoy it at all when the group was large but seemed dominated by the same few. If the earlier session is smaller and more egalitarian, I might try again. Any observations on my impressions, or info about the early group? Thanks. M. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 21 Jul 03 - 08:02 PM Hi M. the early group starts to gather around 12:00. There are very few right now, but we hope to grow. Come see us next Saturday if you are so inclined, we'd love to have you! Our goal is to do 'old time' more than bluegrass until the powerhouses come in. If we can start at noon, we have about one and a half hours, and who knows, if it grows it may develop into something! Gern, when he is able to join us, sits in and then leaves around two. Don't feel like you HAVE to stay! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Gern Date: 22 Jul 03 - 10:54 AM I agree about taking nothing seriously. I just wrote in my latest 'About the Author' profile for the next bluegrass book, "Hill's recently downsized goal in life is to stay out of everybody's way." I clearly have yet to succeed. The early group does endeavor toward openness, hoping to be user-friendly for developing instrumentalists (i.e. it's OK to suck at what you do. Most of us are playing our second-or-third best instruments, and some of us are new at them, and that should be OK.) I find it necessary because my clawhammer cannot project over multiple finger-picked resonator banjos, while still allowing practice on three-finger picking. We try also to expand beyond the usual repertoire (well-rehearsed by those dominating the 2:00 session) and I try to include more offbeat, underplayed old-time stuff. I'm usually there every other Saturday, and try to touch base here at Mudcat when I'm on my way. But I believe you'll find somebody waiting to play about any Saturday. Maybe next door is the answer, although I won't work for tamales. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 22 Jul 03 - 02:38 PM Not a brewing broohaha, just some comments made that were not appreciated. However, seeing that I respect their musical talents, I do appreciate their willingness to let people jump in and play. Sometimes you just have to wade in and ignore egos, opinions and comments. Hard for me to remember sometimes, being an old grumpy crumudgeonly person. This is a gift to have the opportunity. Now as far as next door? Why not. Noon-1:30 or something? We can work for tamales to give to Gern. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 22 Jul 03 - 05:39 PM Well since you guys left the door open, I wil have 'to go there'!! I don't work for tamale either, I just live for today! We should probably ask next door before setting up shop, but hey, they have all to gain and nothing to lose. Just think, for a short while on Saturdays, they could be the only hot dog stand with a floor show! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 23 Jul 03 - 10:30 PM Don't do today what you can put off till tamale. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 25 Jul 03 - 09:51 AM I am planning to arrive at 12:00 if anybody wants to play early. I hear that Marcie, the bass player, is coming at 1:30pm so that would give us a full hour and a half before the big jam starts. Hmmmm? |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 25 Jul 03 - 06:26 PM I will try my very best to be there at noon. I have a previous commitment to take my mother to Sears warehouse to pick up a refrigerator....pray for me!! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 25 Jul 03 - 11:07 PM Done. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 28 Jul 03 - 04:33 PM For Saturday, August 2, it looks like the attendance will be light. So, it may be that chance for the old timey group to play for a couple of hours. Laurie and I will be there. Banjer said he would be, unless that has changed. SO, if you want a chance to play... may not be a lot of singing... come on out at Noon. Somebody wake Gern up, OK? Don't shake him too hard just in case he's been into the tamales again. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:13 PM Yes, I plan to be there at about noon..I too think that the old time will have a chance this weekend. Let's try it! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 30 Jul 03 - 10:10 PM Ran into Bill the gospel mando guy and he will be there. Plus he will bring a young lady who plays bass guitar, acoustic. Sounds like this will be fun. Different. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 01 Aug 03 - 03:29 PM "Oh Gernie Boy, the tamales, tamales they are calling..." |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 03 Aug 03 - 11:31 AM I guess the call of the tamales was not strong enough to entice Gern to the jam! Just want you to know, Gern, that you missed one heck of a good time. Just a bunch of folks doing wahtever came to mind..it was fun. I even drug out the banjo and did a little bit with it. I learned that I have a long way to go to be able to keep up with even the basic stuuf, but with time it will happen. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Gern Date: 03 Aug 03 - 12:18 PM Well, we learn by doing. How come all the "good" jams are the ones I miss, and vice versa. And which vice is versa, as Groucho used to ask? |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 03 Aug 03 - 04:17 PM Well certainly your absence is not what costitutes a 'good' jam....Although you are right... you're always not there when they are good! :) Maybe the next one will have your smiling countenance present! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 05 Aug 03 - 11:33 AM Just got a new Hawaiian Weissenborn-style guitar for the oldie group. Will fit in nicely with Gern's clawhammer, dulcimers, fiddles, etc. Will bring it this week to show you. Neat sound... different from a dobro... more of a "haunting" resonance to it. The neck is hollow! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 05 Aug 03 - 08:27 PM I remember you telling us about it, looking forward to seeing it!! I will have to leave no later than 4 on Saturday, but I plan to be there early. See you then! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Bobo Date: 05 Aug 03 - 10:26 PM We will be there around 12:15-12:30pm. |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 06 Aug 03 - 05:49 PM I plan to get there some time between 12 and 1...depending upon the grandson who wants to come with me this weekend. He has been progressing nicely and thinks he may be ready to try to sit in a little bit!! (He is sounding much better here lately) But we will have to leave earlier to pick up the other grandson from his weekend reserve. See you then!! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: marthabees Date: 06 Aug 03 - 08:58 PM Since I live in Tallahassee, I was real interested in hearing about this group....even though you're 5 hours away. What was especially interesting to me in reading this whole thread was seeing the evolution of the sessions from friendly, open, accepting to one where a small, practiced group powerhoused out some of the others. I noticed that happening to the group I attended in town, too. I'm not new to the music biz, but I'm new to the conventions of a jam/pick-up session, so I didn't really know what to do or expect. While I can keep up with most folks on the rhythm guitar or upright bass, I can't do it (yet) with my mando which I'm still quite a novice at. It was pretty clear that my little chop chords wouldn't be much good/appreciated. It just wasn't friendly - it's billed "open" seesion but it really wasn't. It certainly wasn't inclusive-feeling. I mean, everybody whaled away at the same time, but there was not a real feeling of joy or inclusion by the purported session leader which lightly poisoned the session - not completely poisoned it.... I love playing too much. Sounds like what happened here is consistent with your experiences. If I get down that way, I'll look you early-timers up. Not tamale, but maybe soon.... Martha |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: Banjer Date: 06 Aug 03 - 09:27 PM I hope I didn't give a wrong impression...yes there are some powerhouses that coul dbe billed as semi-professional....and they ARE GOOD!! The thing is that for a novice, not yet familiar with many facets of music, it can be very intimidating, they do attempt to include everyone, but some of us feel better when we can go a slow pace and lean more towards 'old time' sessions.The Buegrass Jam sessions are Fnatastic and I would not miss them for the world...Let us know when you are planning to be down and we will make sure we ahve some oldtime stuff ready! |
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Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL From: marthabees Date: 06 Aug 03 - 09:50 PM Banjer.... I understood you correctly. The other folks are delightful to listen to and aspire to play like even...but the intimidation factor is present and it's not necessarily even something they're aware of. There is a difference in old-time and bluegrass sessions fer shure, it seems to me. And for what I like to do, I'll take oldtime. Until I get to be a powerhouse (hee hee hee). Thanks, Martha |
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