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Tech: Blue Clickie & HTML Help

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Subject: RE: Tech: Blue Clickie & HTML Help
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 09:46 AM

I made a blue clicky!! I followed Mark's method & it worked!!

Here it is again from the Christy Moore thread

Click this!

many thanks to everyone for advice

sandra


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Subject: RE: Tech: Blue Clickie & HTML Help
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:43 AM

Whoo-Hoo, Night Owl!!! Way to go womon!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Blue Clickie & HTML Help
From: Night Owl
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 11:44 PM

IT WORKS...VBG...THANK-YOU 'Spaw!!!!!!

Now, could you puhleeze explain "Music Theory" lesson#1 the same way?? lol


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Night Owl
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 11:30 PM

My first "blue-clicky" test a la 'Spaw.....(fingers crossed).

Musicman's CD


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 06:40 PM

Dave O...up top of your browser in one of the menus (each browser is a little different), there is a thing that says.."view source"....which is the raw data the browsers uses to display the page, You can open that and slog through the text until you see what was posted..(I have sometimes figgered out what a messed up URL was that way...)


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Willa
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 05:46 PM

Songs2play
I'm glad you started this thread, too. I've avoided learning this particular skill, but feel ready to try it now (well, tomorrow, probably, since it's late)


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 05:22 PM

Bill D:

What I was trying was this:

Using notebook, I have a file called BLUEKLIKY.TXT, with the whole blue clicky entry with a sample domain name. I deleted the domain name and split it into two lines, with a blank line between.

The idea was to edit/copy that text, both lines with blank between, and insert it in the Reply to Thread window. Then all I would have to do is type or copy in the desired domain name, and submit the message.

The idea was that the HTML operation would automatically close up the spaces and I would have a valid blue clicky in the post. It didn't work, evidently, because I don't believe I had a P in the BLUEKLIKY.TXT, so I gather that the submission process, besides closing up the spaces, must have entered a P.

Now it's possible that I had the P and just overlooked it in my operation, but I really don't think so. I've put a full entry into the BLUEKLIKY.TXT file and taken out the test text, so I can't check any more whether there was a P or not.

As a matter of interest, how were you able to read what my actual entry was?

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: CarolC
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 03:49 PM

Cool!

Thanks Peter from Essex!


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 03:06 PM

Uncle Dave..what you sent was this..(with < & > changed to [ & ]

[a href="http:// [P] mudcat.org ">Click this![/a] [P]

..so the 'P' got in the middle there...did the "P" have a purpose?..is that a product of what they referr to as 'pre-formatting'? ..or was it an attempt to do something about a paragraph?


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:31 PM

back to the drawing board:

Click this!


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:29 PM

testing something else:

back to Mudcat main


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: belfast
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:22 PM

Good Lord! Right first time! As a matter of interest to anyone who's trying this here's what I did. I took the sample given by Mark Clark way up there somewhere. I copied and pasted onto a word document, then copied and pasted another address into it. Seems to have worked. Just one more thing I have learned from this wonderful site.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Help: Blue Clickie
From: belfast
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:14 PM

I just can't resist this. I've resist never had a clue how this blue clicky thing works. So, at the risk of sending people to a site which has no interest whatsoever to them, here goes….

Click this!


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 02:24 AM

Click here

For you Spaw.....

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: songs2play
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 04:17 AM

Joe, I've just seen your Photo on the memebers section. Is it something about folk singers that they need facial hair. As you will see from my photo on the members album, I too have a beard, but i'm not using as much of the silver hair dye as you are - YET.

I'm supposed to be smiling on the picture.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: songs2play
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 04:09 AM

C-flat, what can I say, you were right.

I suppose the next thing I need to do is go cold turkey.

No its no good. I'll have to have another clickie fix.

blickie


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 03:40 AM

Now, Dave, if you grew a beard, you'd have more hair than I have.
Maybe.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: C-flat
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 03:34 AM

That's excatly what I meant earlier, Songs2play! :~)


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: songs2play
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 03:05 AM

Well done Uncle Dave. We new blickiers need to stick together. I'm glad I started this thread.And just for some exercise i'll put in another blicki- hope it works.

blickie


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:06 PM

You don't have to make the reader leave the thread. Just add a target statement like this to open a new window.

That was <href="http://www.essexfolknews.co.uk/" target="_blank">like this</a>


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: C-flat
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 06:18 PM

Looking good DaveO!


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 06:12 PM

Well, how do you like that? I got it!

I guess I shouldn't have used the URL of my site yet, because it's only in the early stages of construction. It will be better, with more pictures, clickable songs to listen to, and a working guestbook. Hard telling how soon, though.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 06:01 PM

that is a FINE clicky, Uncle Dave!


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 05:54 PM

This is a defective blue clicky:

="http://www.folking.com/"This is a test clicky"

This, I think is a correct blue clicky:

"This is another test clicky"


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 05:49 PM

test again:

=/http://www.folking.com/"This is a test clicky"


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 05:40 PM

test a href http://www.folking.com/testing


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 05:02 PM

anyway...here is the easy way to display HTML code without it becoming a URL....there is a little program called sHTML which will do it for you, in the color you specify, without having to learn all the &sptps like this....

<a href=http://hjem.get2net.dk/fec/shtmlc/shtmlc.zip>sHTML</a>


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 04:45 PM

test...trying something

stuff


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 01:46 PM

Kinda makes ya wanna URL your cookies, dunnit? (Duck, cover and run!)

A


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 01:45 PM

Better to teach people correct terminology... even if they are confused in the short term...

"Link" to me is the best easiest term as far as I can tell...

And it doesn't sound like 'baby talk'


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: MMario
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 01:32 PM

As somoene who supports many thousands of people using computers - I can tell you the terms "blicky" and "clickie" have helped ENORMOUSLY with people understanding. Especially good though is the phrase "blue clicky thing" - something almost everyone can understand immediatley - whereas they don't know a "hypertext link" or "clickable link" from a topographical map.

URL is another one that confuses them - "address" they understand - URL no.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Pennny
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 01:19 PM

Well done Spaw.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:38 PM

"political correctitude for the sensitivities of under-appreciated machines"

Not my intention A mate...

Rather a comment on how the terms reflect poorly on the people who choose to use 'em...


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:32 PM

Clinton,

We got enuff damn bleeding hearts around here taking offense on behalf of every undertrodden illbespoken whangajang and uppsala sub-group in the damn Universe; please don't start a "political correctitude for the sensitivities of under-appreciated machines" movement on us!

Besides, most folks use that erm to describe Wintel boxes, which are below reproach and incapable of being insulted or spoken of in degrading terms.

A


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Airto
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:27 PM

Spaw's is the one for me. It's going on the wall.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:16 PM

Please oh gods please don't call them "blickies" Or clickies" or what ever... call it a LINK... or a URL...

And don't call your PC a 'puter' either...

It's insulting...


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: C-flat
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:12 PM

Well done Songs2play!
Now if you're anything like me, you won't be able to resist putting blickiesin every post you make here!:~)
C-flat.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: MMario
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:44 AM

I think 'spaw did the best explanation I've seen in a while tho'.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:30 AM

songs2play--

You did a Folking Good job!

AND you know the appropriate lingo to express frustration! You am a true Mudcatter!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:24 AM

Well, we all are just rewriting the FAQ, but, ya know, what da faq, right? It's fun to try.

A


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bagpuss
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:20 AM

So, not only is the trial and error method quicker, but its a lot more fun! But at least your description is there for folks who arrive afterwards wanting to know the same thing.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Mark Clark
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:16 AM

Never mind....

I see I spent too much time on my explanation and others got in faster with better.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Mark Clark
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:12 AM

If you want to share blicky code with other people in a thread you can get the special symbols to print as follows:

  • To get a less than character (<) to print, use the four character sequence &lt;
  • To get a greater than character (>) to print, use the four character sequence &gt;
Using those codes won't create a blicky but it will let you explain their use to other people.

A blicky begins with a tag that indicates the start of a blicky. It lookes like this: <a>
A blicky ends with a tag that marks the end of the blicky. It looks like this: </a>
The ending tag looks like the beginning tag but has a slash (/) character to indicate its status as an end tag.

In between those two tags you place the text that you want to display as blue underlined text. Example: <a>Click this!</a>

Of course my simple example doesn't specify any target Web page for the blicky. The URL that actually references the target page is embedded inside the beginning <a> tag as a hypertext reference (href) and in its simplest form is coded as follows:

<a href="http://www.targetdomain.com">
A full blicky, then, looks like this:
<a href="http://www.targetdomain.com">Click this!</a>
I thought it might be easier to understand if the pieces were broken down to look less like an untelligegible string of characters. I don't think this explanation is any improvement on the detailed explainations provide by Jeff and Joe but it's right here in this thread for anyone to busy or too lazy to click over to the official version.

One could also just copy my final example and paste it into a new posting making the necessary edits so it takes other readers to the referenced site.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: songs2play
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:03 AM

Well I'll be - I done it, well I hope I did , it works for me.

One GREAT BIG thanks to all, Amos, Bagpuss, MMario, Curmudgeon and WYSIWYG. Catters can do it.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:02 AM

Ooopsss

Good job

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:01 AM

Type one of these <
Now type an    a
Now type a space
Now type href
Now type =

Now put in the URL you want http://www.folking.com
Now type one of these >

Now put in your message Click Here

Now type one of these <
Now type /
Now type an   a
Now type >

Do exactly what I wrote. Only put a space where I said.




Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bagpuss
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:00 AM

WOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOOO

well done :-D


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: songs2play
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 10:58 AM

Last try-

click here

if this doesn't work. Forget the thread, I'm a registered dim-wit.


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: Bagpuss
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 10:54 AM

That was correct except you had 2 urls typed in there.

We're rooting for you!


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Subject: RE: Help: Blue Clickie
From: MMario
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 10:54 AM

okay - on that last one - you had an extra / between the "href=" and the "http:"


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