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Nellies Session to be moved

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Subject: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 09:20 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen. Your views are now most urgently required.

I have just, as is my custom on a saturday afternoon, popped into Nellies with my children for chip butties and coke. I decided to sit in the dart room. Mostly because that's where we always sit, also because the room was mostly empty. And in no small part to test the resolve of the new poxy landlady. (see earlier discussions). Before we had had a chance to sit down, she stormed in, and in a most school Mistressly manner (the real Penelope, I fear) announced in a loud voice "Peter! This pub is under new management! And children are no longer welcome in this room!! "

As far as I am concerned, this is the LAST straw. I will not grace this woman's establishment with my presence. I feel strongly about this, in case you hadn't noticed. With this in mind, I intend to speak to the landlord at the Sun Inn. Please let me have your thoughts as soon as possible, people. If you feel likewise, please let me know. If not, I suggest you decide who the new M/C is. Cos I will not be there, as anyone who heard my son playing last week will understand.

I await your responses with interest. 9.

Pete.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 09:27 AM

Pete your dummie's just landed in lincolnshire if you want it back i'll give it to Oakleaf

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 09:32 AM

Pretty impressive, heh? I am however, still spitting!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 09:39 AM

Peter, it is a great pity that you have been treated like this. I would do exactly the same in your position and withdraw my custom, until Penelope gets a more suitable position as a pit-prop somewhere.

Personally, I don't mind where the session is. OK, it is good to save 60p a pint, but the opportunity to make music and enjoy company is more important. There may be some with greater attachment to the building, who haven't been as slighted or as demeaned as you have. They might like to exercise their right to continue a session at Nellies. But not me.

I am happy to join you at the Sun in early October. I think at least some who know the reason for you withdrawing your support from Nellies might support you as well. And good luck to you.

Just a thought, if the session continues to be successful and enjoyable at the new venue, it will be difficult to avoid being accused of fickleness when Penelope is sent underground, and a socialised and supportive manager moves into the White Horse.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 10:08 AM

Thankyou for your support, David. Will await further responses with interest. In the meantime will sound out the Sun Inn.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 10:23 AM

I'm with you deanie bouy. I also think that a letter to the owners of Nellies - detailing the history etc and complaining most strongly should be written forthwith. However, is the sun a good idea as there are already sessions there most sundays (I think) what about the oddies? Just a thort.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 12:13 PM

I'll support you Pete. More choice of Beers at the Sun anyway and I'm sure that Steve will offer at least one free pint to everyone that plays (it will offset some of the increased cost of drinking at £2.00 a pint instead of £1.23.

Have a chat with me privately about the arrangement that I have with him for the last Sunday of the month session.

R


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 12:40 PM

A deserted dart-room and a confused, expectant and disappointed manager having to explain declining trade on "banker" Sunday is much a much more powerful message that a stiff letter to the owners, Slimeslipper. I'm Glad that Sir Rog has come out (in support that is). Now you should be on a roll, Deany.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: harpmaker
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:58 PM

The Sun, no problem with me. I think it would be better in there, more room. Go for it Pete!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 02:37 PM

Smallpiper, Oddies is a nice thought indeed, and have already discussed wiv Dodgy. However, I think the Sun is better suited as a venue for the madness that often is the first sunday session, and I hope that she does not take offence at that.

Also, John, we have already been offered a monthly musician's session at Oddies (as previously discussed) which I believe is a far better proposition, and one that we must discuss further. Prob mid monthly, Sunday night affair, as we have done, successfully, before. Please let me have your thoughts, so I can confirm this with the lovely Dodgy herself.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 02:49 PM

I'm up for it and mid month sounds good. I'm sure she'll be happy with what you are proposing - just let me know when and I'll rally some troops.

Mr Oakcask some of the names that you produce for me are amusing the most recent, however, isn't. I am deeply insulted! As a loyal friend and musical companion I rather think you could do me the onna of spulling my name wright. Yours muchly huffed el yobo


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 03:01 PM

Sorry Smegsnuffler.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Caz
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 03:52 PM

Peter, I rang Nellies last week just to check that the session was on, I couldn't make it in the end, but when I enquired I got the distinct impression from the tone of her voice that she wasn't happy. After answering the phone with "Nellies, hello" in a very abrupt manner with no grace at all she then told me "...I don't pay them, they just turn up and appear to be a little clique of their own really."

I love the Sun Inn cause Steve is a great guy and very welcoming. Do it and I'll be down more often.

Carole


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 04:10 PM

Oaklease appology accepted :-)


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Willa
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 06:11 PM

I'd be happy to move to the Sun; There would probably be some people turning up at Nellie's for a while,anyway, since regulars are not all 'catters, but no doubt they'd soon get the message.
I have a particularly fond memory of a young friend of mine, Alex, turning up one Sunday, whistle in hand, and immediately being invited (nay, commanded) by His Deanship to play. Alex played confidently and accompanied by Deanie, Oakley, et al (sorry, al, don't remember your names). It was a very special moment for me, and I'm sure she'll remember it.
How can we expect the young'uns to follow on if they don't get chances like that?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Willa
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 06:15 PM

I'd be happy to move to the Sun; There would probably be some people turning up at Nellie's for a while,anyway, since regulars are not all 'catters, but no doubt they'd soon get the message.
I have a particularly fond memory of a young friend of mine, Alex, turning up one Sunday, whistle in hand, and immediately being invited (nay, commanded) by His Deanship to play. Alex played confidently and accompanied by Deanie, Oakley, et al (sorry, al, don't remember your names). It was a very special moment for me, and I'm sure she'll remember it.
How can we expect the young'uns to follow on if they don't get chances like that?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 08:34 PM

Willa, I remember it. He played Inisheer beautifully and I wanted, nay demanded to hear it again. A good memory from the Nellies sessions, which may be lost in a fog of resentment if it lamely carries on under the resentful gaze of Penelope, until it just dies. Far better to uproot it and let Steve allow it to flourish.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: selby
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 03:28 AM

Funny how things seem to repeat,a similar sort of thing happened at the Jug session. We moved and although we dont stay at the same venue every week the session continues. Keith


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 04:00 AM

I'm happy with the arrangement -hope she leave's the Folk Club alone. Letter to the brewery wouldn't go amiss -they don't like losing custom -when do we start at the Sun and I will convey to as many as I can-although most seem to be Mudcatters now anyway!!!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 05:30 AM

Hey Deanie my man don't forget to tell the witch that we've sacked her!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 05:53 AM

Terrible how the attitude of one manager/landperson can ruin a session quicker than any PEL enforcement.... Same happened a few years back at the Goose and Firkin, Borough, London. A fantastic monthly session that had been going for about 12 years suddenly ground to a halt because the brewery sold out and the landlord changed. The new manager wanted to lure more students in (closing on a Sunday lunchtime was his first brainwave... when he realised he had 20+ punters knocking in his door he opened up pretty sharpish), by making it a 'yoof' pub. Out went the old built in bench seats and decent sized tables you could put a guitar case on, in came nasty stools and high rise hanky sized tables for standing at. Out went the Bruce's Brewery policy of no juke box and in came a CD machine. Out went the 'pig between two bread vans' type bar snacks and in came 'pub grub' with a menu. It was a terrible wrench to leave, especially as the leader pointed out, the new manager was a mere child of 10 when sessions started.

Good luck at the new place, and may 'Penelope' learn her lesson!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Willa
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 06:16 AM

Hi, Oakleaf,
Alex is a she.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 06:29 AM

Hi Willa, I remember now; I had put a marble in me head by mistake in a rush to leave the cattle, and get to Nellies. Not my prized Hasselbad precision - ground glass eye. I hope Alex will forgive me if he is reading this. By the way, through the myopic haze, I thought Deanie looked a dead spitter of Britney Spears all afternoon, if that's any comfort to the lad. I got quite uncomfortable by five o'clock.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ossonflags
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 06:39 AM

Well, she has finally come out in the open has'nt she?

Withdrawal of labour eh? Well, as you know I am all for that,but I am incensed that she has scored a victory over this.I love the Nellies,being one of my most favourite pubs in the whole world,but be assured I will not be going in AT ALL while that unpleasant person has got control.This is a personal thing,I would not expect attenders of the excellant "White Horse Folk Club" to withdraw there support of the club,that would be really bad,and I suspect playing right into her hands.

From past experiance I have found that brewerys take very little notice of letters of complaint against there management, always giving them support, as unfortunatley they have the law on there side when it comes to who they have in there pubs.However,I believe that if we all write letters of complaint,and I mean all,it will not do any harm, if only to loose off a bit of personal spleen.

It is interesting to note that the same maxim does not apply when complaints are lodged against their exploited staff,when sacking is usually the order of the day. I know of at least one ex staff member of nellies,who was not allowed to drink in the pub after they had left.

Using the Sun is an excellant idea,everything going for it as a music venue,and as past experiance has proved at the Bev.folk festivals,tons of room,that bit lacking at times in the Nellies.I think I will take the chance on being thought of as fickle when the time comes,but Dammit!! a person does have there code.

As I have stated in previous post you have my unconditional support peter.

p.s.Punch The Horse is playing at the sun that first sunday on the night time,should be a cooooooooooel day.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:16 AM

Peter, what is the suitability of the Sun to naked Purple Helmetry and pyrotechnics? I will have to talk to my proper wife (one third of the top scratch ceilidh band who triumphed last night at El-san Hall along with DeanMeister and a certain bearded fiddler with prominant ears9) about an inaugural display of rockets and flesh in October.

I think that jOhn should write to Nellies. That should put the cat among the pigeons. And Penelope will assume her rightful place deep beneath the earth, in a supporting role within weeks.

Did I just get a whiff of shameless self - promotion there Ossonflags? Or was I dreaming of Twillingsgate again. Winston and Ms Penelope Ruttledge are the same person. Which leaves me a bit puzzled....


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: harpmaker
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:22 AM

The landloard at the Mariners (Nr. the beck) is folk freindly, he is always asking me to come and play. I think he feels left out. We could alternate between the two, makes it more interesting for us, it also opens up a new venue. I ask you to consider this seriously, it would be good press for us as he is always trying to promote music, but hardly anybody turns up. Also the Sun has a lot of music going on anyway. Have you considered the Foresters? (cheap Pedigree bitter)! 3rd venue??


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:41 AM

Well, thank you everybody. Am particularly incensed at the "I don't pay them, they just turn up...appear to be a little clique of their own" remarks, to a stranger(to her at least) over the phone. This appears to have confirmed my opinion of the stupid woman. Thanks for the tip-off, Carole.

Willa, I remember Alex playing, and it was indeed one of the finer moments in the four years that the session has been running. I hope she will return to see us at the Sun Inn. Perhaps my son Alex can accompany her on Guitar or mandolin in an environment where they are welcome.

Linda, I leave it in your capable hands to round up a posse of lovely singists...!!

Oakleaf...The Sun is a splendid venue for the Purple Helmets. What finer backdrop than Beverley Minster??? Looking forward to you commemorating the inaugural session with a fine display!

I have spoken to Steve at the Sun. He bought me a pint of bEaR9 at the very mention of the possibility. A good sign, I think? I shall confirm with him, now I know I have your support. I had not realised that PTH were playing the same night in October, but what the heck. Lets go for first Sunday. I will confirm timing with Steve and your good selves.

Lets hope the Session continues and gets the support it has recieved over the last four years, for another four years.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Skipjack K8
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:45 AM

Dang, Irkley, the same thought went through my marble, but as usual, your quicksilver shone. We can't be moving to an willy-nilly venue without tank-testing the motion for naked ride-pasts.

I fear that I might be gaining the plot, as after said triumph of the acid-garage botty whiffs ceilidh, I settled down in front of the electric television to watch Caligula, and thought it was pretty tame compared to what the 'helmets get up to. Incidentally, Peter, consider yourself an honorary Helmet after that inspired performance at Elsan Hall.

Having now considered the motion, I find that the Sun is considerably nearer the Former Peoples' Republic of South Humberside, and therefore it is officially supported by the 'Helmets.

Geoffrey (not that one)


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:49 AM

Harpmaker, I have already spoken with Foresters. However, they are pretty busy on Sundays anyway with meals, and have a singalong thingy in the evenings, so it is believed that it's not really a goer.

As for Mariners, I don't believe it's suitable. Too small, the wrong shape, and frankly, a bit of a dive. Not particularly keen on the gaffer, either.

Also, there is the matter of continuity. One of the reasons for the continued success of the Nellies session is that its always at the same time, same place. People may not come for months, then turn up out of the blue, because they know its there. Hearsay has also been a good factor...people appear out of the woodwork from out of town because they have heard about it.

A nomadic session would suffer, I believe.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:56 AM

Why thankyou, Skipjack. I shall polish my trusty Marin immediately!! Do I have to go naked? I'm not sure Flemingate is ready for that, frankly...

Botty whiffs Ceilidh was fun. Many thanks for your music and splendid repartee. Put me down for more of that, mate. Perhaps you can find a caller that takes so long to set up the dance that we only have to play two sets next time? Many bear9HOI's could be consumed.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:56 AM

And Les, stickers please to endorse Penelope Pit - Prop's rude notices which are now strewn liberally around the White Horse - "Nelly's - pleasing locals and strangers alike for 200 years; pissing people right off for 6 months".

Peter, this is the first time a pub has ever been endorsed by the Purple Helmets. We've officially approved German car manufacturers and governments of third - world countries, but we are very pleased to be associated with the Sun.

A fine display of guitaring last night Peter, even matched the trouser - consumption of the caller's arse which at one time was a heady 2 cm per minute. Any more and the poor sod would have started to taste gusset.

Thanks for agreeing to do it.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ossonflags
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 08:00 AM

Thats good coming from you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oaklet.no self promotion intended.Just a gentle reminder to my,sorry, our fans about the possibillity of a long day.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 08:11 AM

I can almost hear you barking that, Ossonflags. Yes "Oakley - One man's genius (and Paunch the Hearse)". Now I remember. Incidentally, I am to run a workshop at the Brigg Fiddle Festival on the 17th May next year. Being a bit clueless, what potential subjects do you feel I am qualified to cover, given my experience?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 08:14 AM

I didn't mention it at the time but I didn't get a very friendly welcome from that lady when I was setting up the PVFF stuff earlier in the year - in fact her first words when I went in with my little doggie was " I hope you are going to keep that thing on a lead"! And my dog is better behaved that some folkies I could mention!! (only joking - or am I?)

R


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 08:49 AM

Oakplank a good idea for your fiddle workshop next year would be "playing the fiddle whilst arthritically bending from the waist" or "Arithmical Hupping whlst playing a reel - an art form" or "Purpuewell Helmuts - fact or fiction" I think you could do sum dead good workshops around those themes?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 11:21 AM

Stoolwiper, thanks. There's one thing that's been bothering me.....I wouldn't advocate this, but if, before and during the first session at the Sun, we could bombard the White Horse with phone calls asking if there was any folk music to be enjoyed at the White Horse on the Sunday afternoon..... Perhaps some kind soul could provide the phone number. Only a thought, fellers and lasses.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: brid widder
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 12:29 PM

Oaktree... I was thinking the same... I think I'll go along to Nellies first... order a pint then ask where the session is... no session... sorry I won't need the pint ta!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 12:43 PM

Stoolwiper! Fin hell oakplank you've now officially got woodworm!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: dodgy bird
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 01:14 PM

although a decision seems to have been made on the new location of our monthly shindigs. i would just like to say that everyone is allways welcome at ours and we would be only to happy for you to use our backroom which with the removal of the pool table becomes a very spacious room and apprantly the acoustics are very good aswell.as was proven at the PVFF so the decision is yours boys and girls whatever the outcome a plus for myself and him with the dodgy leg is we will not have so far to travel. and regardless of where you play you will always have our support whenever our work commitments allow us to lend you an ear. cheers all helen and chris


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 07:36 PM

Hey dodgy does that support include a free pint?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 03:07 AM

I love the sticker idea!!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 04:51 AM

Yes, Smallpiper. We have indeed been offered bear9 money to go to the back room at the Oddfellows Arms. It was a pretty good room to sing and play in during the PVFF. Does anyone have a view on this?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 05:25 AM

Hey lets do both!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ossonflags
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 06:13 AM

Can some one tell me what is going on?

After our dignified withdrawal from the Nellies I thought the decision had been made to move to the Sun.

The response and support shown by all the attenders of the sessions had been dignified and proper.Now the talk of stickers, phone calls etc. is to be frank, playing into her hands.If you want to register your displeasure with this unpleasant person one possibillity is to write to the Beverley Guardian and/or write individually to the Brewery and send her a copy.The rest I fear will reinforce her thoughts and comments about us.

The Oddfellows does have its attractions, but in my humble opinion the Sun is a far better prospect for all attenders of the sunday sessions, that includes the people who just come to listen and enjoy the music.

My support for the remove remains as solid and supportive as ever,but let us not loose track of the reasons why we are doing it.As I have said in the past,the music and enjoyment is the prime objective, not the offer of a few free pints.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 07:54 AM

Broadly I agree with Ossenflags but am always up for more in terms of venues and times to play music (and hear song)therefore I don't see why we can't move the sunday session to the sun as already agreed and have another one different day/time - Deanie and I have already discussed the possiblility of this happening at the Oddies and it will go ahead - just gorra sort out the when. Yes music and enjoyment are the prome objectives but a free pint never hurt to help that on the way.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Fretful of Ferriby
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 10:19 AM

May I make a suggestion that one of you good people find the address, not only of the Brewery, but more likely the Management company that owns the pubs. Then together with that of the local journal, your MP, your councillor etc, and post them on the thread so that people may respond to the correct addressee.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,ossonflags
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:22 PM

Thank you kind ferriby person for that piece of helpful advice,but if people feel strongly enough about this,they will have already completed that piece of important research.

Take your point smallpiper,have already mentioned liquid appreciation in a previous thread.I am aware of the seperate negotiations re;Oddies sessions, nowt wrong with that.The purpose of my reply was to answer axemans request for comments on the Nellies session move.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,ossonflags
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:38 PM

Thank you kind ferriby person for that piece of helpful advice,but if people feel strongly enough about this,they will have already completed that piece of important research.

Take your point smallpiper,have already mentioned liquid appreciation in a previous thread.I am aware of the seperate negotiations re;Oddies sessions, nowt wrong with that.The purpose of my reply was to answer axemans request for comments on the Nellies session move.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Les from Hull
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 03:08 PM

I fully support moving the session as we're not being made welcome in Nellies, but we mustn't screw things up for Nellies Folk Club, which has been upstairs there since the year dot. Non-thinking barpersons may end up doing the dirty on them.

Wherever the session goes we need to think of a room that's big enough to get us all in, plus at least some of the people who would like to get in but end up standing at the doorways. We could go for two sessions a month if enough of us want it, but there's already quite a lot of sessions in the area. Mind you there's quite a lot of people interested in sessions too.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,ossonflags
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 03:38 PM

les, right with you there on the folk club issue (see my previous remarks on this thread )in my experience lots of people were leaving nellies when they found they couldnt get in to the session - both players and watchers. That is why I think the sun is a natural choice.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: dodgy bird
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 04:13 PM

just to confirm my earlier post you are always welcome and can be assured of our continued support. and may see it possible to buy you all a bear9 just dont tell chris hes got enough grey hairs already!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 04:48 PM

The debate continues.

Mick, I thank you for your comments. And agree. I believe we have settled on the Sun Inn for monthly mayhem. Be there or be a stoolwiper. Purple Helmets, be on standby. Brid Widder, good luck with the pint thing. See you when you've finished! I will be too busy having fun elsewhere!

Smallpiper, we will discuss the Monthly musicians sunday night. 2nd or 3rd Sunday? Mid month, anyway. For musical lunacy with Nik Nak, yourself, me, hopefully Oakleaf, Skipjack, Harpmaster, and whoever else we can con into drinking bear9 on a sunday night.

Long live live music, people. Lets keep it going, please.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 05:03 PM

Bugger, I've just set fire to the curtains.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Willa
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 07:15 PM

Just for a curtain raiser?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 10:12 PM

You FIRESTARTER, (trendy word for arsonist)


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ET
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 03:06 AM

Oakley

When you have extinguished your curtains (I didn't think you had them - I thought it was the Daily MMail at your windows - read your e-mail re Haze


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 03:25 AM

Well, ET sweetheart, they were curtains to me. And I miss them. Another trip to the newsagents to get another Daily MMail then. Got your E Mail thanks love; I look forward to seeing you this evening. But catch me early, because my violin pupil is very generous with the Guinness on Tuesday night.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ossonflags
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 04:56 AM

Oakers-how? or possibly why?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 05:16 AM

Ossonflags, I set fire to the lampshade whilst working on me explosives for the Purple helmet's assault on precinct Sun. The curtain fire was an accident.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 06:20 AM

Aaaah, a John Carpenter dimension brings an altogether darker hue to our proceedings. Perhaps we could shoot the quintessential English remake 'Assault on Sort Code 90-27-66' with 9ohnnie dEppo playing 9ohn, and Meryl Streep as Linda, with the story told in the third person, from the Witch magazine perpective. Kingston Communications will get some, too, as a violent vignette to the main action. The final scene will be the fish tank at the Deppo bursting, flooding Mustaffa's, and leaving 9ohn with the Hull9 petfood market completely cornered.

Gav


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 06:28 AM

Greg, how do you remember all this shit? You are waaaaay too clever for me.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 06:37 AM

Peter, if I stood on 9ohn's shoulders, I still couldn't kiss my husband's arse.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Horrified of Harrogate
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 08:03 AM

I consider your actions to be atypical of the lumpen proletariat. You fail to grasp the basics of commerce and unwavingly attack anuone who attempts to procure for themselves a decent income. You expect a loyal hardworking licencee to expend an open arm welcome to your snotty uncontrolled brats and berate her if she shows a modicum of civility by asking that they do not use a particular room. I do not see from any of your remarks that she has actually banded anyone, she has merely asked, as is her perogative, that children do not use a certain room. She has possibly done so at the insistence of her employers who will be aware, as you appear not to be, of the dangers of children running round in a pool room. Cues and small heads and eyes not mixing very well. So what do you do, you take umbrage, throw your collective dummy out of the pram, and decamp to another establishment where by your own admission the beer is far more expensive. I should consider a rethink at least is in order.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 08:21 AM

Crumbs, there's a thought!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 08:28 AM

Now there's a turn-up!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 03:07 PM

Cripes!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Willa
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 03:12 PM

Who is this persnip posing as H-of H and trying to perswede us to change our minds?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ossonflags
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 05:26 PM

I've been banned a time or twelve from several establishments-but never banded.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 05:43 PM

H of H. You are forming opinions without the benefit of the facts. The room concerned is not a pool room. That is still child friendly, apparently! It is a plain stone floored room, with no bar.

With respect to the basics of commerce, I am a sales director. As is skipjack. And Oakleaf. And my session has been running, without a hiccup, and with the full support of the regulars of Nellies (indeed, it was started at their request) for four years this month, and has been responsible for the sale of many thousands of pints of beer that would otherwise have been drunk elsewhere, or not at all.

Her employers are Samuel Smiths of Tadcaster, and they know full well that the session boosts the profits of the establishment. And anyone who has met my children, or any others who have attended the session, would refrain from referring to them as snotty uncontrolled brats.

If your comments are supposed to be witty, let me tell you they are not, and I expect an apology. If you were serious, then butt out. Or come out from behind your "Horrified" persona and reveal yourself.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 17 Sep 02 - 07:53 PM

Peter, I think it was me with the small snot-dribble problem, sorry for letting you down. I think I am going to fall in love again with H of H - as you know, I am a sucker for being banded. Still, it's good to get the view from a professional standpipe.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ET
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 02:59 AM

Taking a view from space as it were, Nellies has three problems - 1. room too small, 2 that guy in a fiesta with the windows open playing boom boom on his sterio who drives round and round till he stops outside the window and 3. Lady Penelope. The Sun is a great venue but has much on on Sundays and serves meals, including I believe, chip butties, or whatever it is you earthlings eat.

Mariners looks like a good bet. I think a supportive landlord makes all the difference. Incidentally great session at the Sloop last night with 21 players at one time!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 03:14 AM

Eric, yes, but out of the 21 players, 20 were naked bassoonists. I have decided to leave a sprout in the gents toilet every time I visit Nelly's and the Hase in honour of the music that used to reverberate there. I think the Jug at Chapel Haddlesey and the Tilted Barrel in Waltham might qualify to be sprouted. Any others?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Even More Horrified of Harrogate
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 04:17 AM

My word, do you not recognise when a tongue is firmly inplanted in a cheek. I have not yet managed to get to a session in Beverley so do not know your good selves, the landlady or the establishment. What I do recognise however is the possibility of a good tried and tested venue, good cheap beer, good crowd of people, having a good time, coming to a premature end. It may be possible that a quiet, diplomatic, word in the landladies shell-like explaining gently what the "folk music" world is all about, of how it embraces and encourages people of all ages and abilities including children to participate in a convivial gathering. You may tell me that this has already been attempted, in which case sadly it may be time to move on, but many your threads would indicate that you do not truly wish to do so. Perhaps another effort with the landlady may be in order. I did not intend to offend anyone, and trust that your responses like my initial thread had tongues thrust into the sides of faces.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:01 AM

Hey oaksterien will you stop this cross dressing nonsense!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:30 AM

Stoolswiper; That wasn't me doing the Harrogate.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:37 AM

I niver said it was woodworm bouy!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ossonflags
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:41 AM

I think the decision to move and the venue is now firmly established,aint it? If so let us get on with it.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:42 AM

H-of-H, thank you. My reply was perhaps a little hasty, and fuelled by more than a few bear9's.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: specky
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 06:30 AM

not like u to be hasty deany :-) xx


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 07:38 AM

No, he normally takes a long time....


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: ET
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 12:32 PM

I am worried about Mr Oakley. Is he some sort of vegitarian arsonist burning curtains and abandoning innocent sprouts in toilets. Is this on the floor or in the bowl? And last night he played with a fiddle adorned with a pornbrokers ticket. Yes I mean pornbroker, not pawnbroker.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Abuwood
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 12:55 PM

This thread is really upsetting, I was so looking forward to getting to a session in that fabulous pub one of these days. But to have such a place spoilt by a frosty landlady is awful, I hope she don't have plans to redecorate the place too. Let me know where the Sun is please and what beer for Steve and what days as I/we may be up and down to Hull again soon.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Les from Hull
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 02:06 PM

Alice - the Sun is really near the Minster (East End) and Steve has about 7 hand pumps, so there's always a good choice of bear available. And, unlike Nellies, you can get spirits that you've actually heard of, including Black Bush. It's the first Sunday of the month about 2pm (except when it isn't).

Les


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: dodgy bird
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 07:51 PM

the sun in is the oldest pub in beverley dating from 1530 and it lends its self beautifully to the new home of the monthly session it has 9 beers available at all times and one of the nicest members of staff you could ever wish to meet (have lost the ability to spell courteous) i will see you all there


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 05:38 AM

Hi Dodgy. I am confused again, could you please clarify. Do you mean 9 beers or 9beers? If it is 9 beers, you should have put 9beers9 or if you meant 9beers, it should have been 9bears9. Or 9bears99. 8Also, of the 9bears (or 9beers9 (or 9bears99)), are they really available at all times? Can I come at 9three o'clock in the morning and get shit-faced? Does one have to book, or mutter a secret code through a flap in a door, meeting the eyes of a furtive stranger lurking in your back passage?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:18 AM

Be consistant, Oakrot, is it 9beers9 or 9 bears9?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Abuwood
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 12:52 PM

Thanks for the info Les, I'll get in touch if we have a chance of getting there. Cheers Alison PS does anyone know how the shop thingy got on to my post, I did not put it there?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: specky
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 03:42 PM

smallpiper we still got a date for 28th sept? if so oddies at 7.30 where we will be picked up and transported in style to durty nellies in hull?????????????where we shall cast our eyes aon the cooooooooooolest singer in town.....oakley 9NOT SURE IF THIS IS A SUITABLE NAME9............. deany boy doing his usual acrobatics....and the other chappy the quiet one with the acordian let me know please sweetie ...........xxxx


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 20 Sep 02 - 03:01 PM

Check your PM's specky dear heart xxxx


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:23 AM

refresh 9to let people know that the nellies session is at the sun now)
PS.As suggested by oAklet, I am more than happy to write a letter to the new licensee of nellies, here is a draught copy
Dear Mrs9 or Miss) Nellie
I have red on madcat that yoo kicked Peats kids out of yoor pub, this is very bad of yoo, and all the music peepol are going to a different pub now, and some of them are going to put sprouts on your winnder sill, and it serves you right, i think yoo shuld apopolise to Peat, 9he is the tall one with the gitar) so yoo cant say yoo dont know hoo he is, and if you dont , then you should bugger off back to Lincoln where yoo came from, and stop making trouble in our local pubs, this is a decent town and a local pub, you obviously dont understand our local ways. Yoors pissed offly jOhn from Hull
What yoo think, is it a good letter?
I found out she is called Anna, and was at The Cornhill Vaults in Lincoln, but it closed, she she went to Nellies, ps, Hase womean is called Jane.When i win the lottery i going to buy a big pub, and tell music people to go there , and i give free bears to all mudcat people.john


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Oaklet
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:03 AM

A splendid letter, jOhn.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:15 AM

thanks oaklet, i will add a bit as well=
PS.Nellies woman, i herd yoo dont like rogers dog as well, this is very bad and it soounds to me like yoo are a right trubble maker and not a good person to have a pub, if you have a pub you should be nice to people 9and there petes) dogs are good, because they frighten the buglers away.9end of letter) I will print it and send it, or i might put it through the letter box when i go to see John8 9Harpmaker) tommorow, it wiill save me paying for a stamp.john it is good to save muney if you can.john


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 04:19 AM

A fine sentiment, jOhn. Dogs not only repel buglers, they are very good at keeping melodeoeoooeoeonsists at bay.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 05:29 AM

Well I have just been to the post office or, whatever they are called nowadays, to see how much it would be for a stamp. She said whitch one do you want? I said I dont want any yet, i need to know how much it is first, she said they are 27p! I thought i am not paying that kind of money , that is nearly 6 shillings in old muney! There was a big gang of pension women having sume kind of meeting there, I overhheard one of them say to the other " Did you know that Walter from number 37 has got Parkinson's?" I was wondering which one of Parkinson's posessions that "Walter" has got,, whatever it is, i hope he gives it back soon, then she said to me, or rather she shouted "NICE MORNING!" 9I think she was taking the piss) i get told it is 27p for a stamp, and she thinks its a nice morning! I can remember when they were 7p and 9p for first class, and its not all that long ago, so I just ignored her.As I was leaving, one of her friends said " Hmmm, Strange bloke!" I don't know wether she was taliking about Walter or Parkinson, but I am not going back there again.then i went to the co-op shop, i have started going there now because Jacksons is to eckspensive, i got 2 spotted ducks for price of one, and 2 family bags of crips for 1pound, and some sqaure bread but i cant remember how mutch that was.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 05:38 AM

Just keep us posted, jOhn.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 05:47 AM

here is a good wibsite for people who like to save money on there shopping, www.priceoffers.co.uk, they go to all the supermarkets and see witch ones have got the best speshul offers, they have got a serch thing as well, weere you can enter the stuff you want to buy, and they tell you the cheepest shop tio buy it at, but you have to spell it right or it dosent work, the best thing to do is take the things out of the cupburd and copy the spelling, but i suppose if you have run out you would be nackered then, always keep one of each item for spelling perposes.john PS Oaklet and all other local people , if you want a paying gig , then see the thread called, "Does any local people want a gig".john


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: GUEST,Oakley
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 11:17 AM

jOhn, your letter to Nelly's will certainly put the 'Cat amongst the pidgins. Please share the reply with us9.


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 09:17 PM

If it was such a "Nice mornib=ng" as she alleges, then why was she wearing a big wully hat?


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: smallpiper
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 09:21 PM

ROTFL


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 04:03 AM

Lmfao!!!


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Subject: RE: Nellies Session to be moved
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 02:03 AM

I reckon "NICE MORNINg", is sume kind of code, it probably means do you want to buy sume drugs, or sumething.john


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