BS: The Godless march that didn't matter

Subject: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 08 Nov 02 - 02:28 PM

Well isn't this just ducky that Mrzy has had their Libertarian aethisim-sap rising to full blossom in our midst. However there is still a legitimate case to be made for too much of a good thing
and the message of our dauntless little enthusiast risks becoming about as welcome as approaching Jehovah's Witnesses spied rom behind one's breakfast nook curtains gooing door to door a few neighbors enough away to quickly retreat into one's inner chambers and make noise like one is *not* at home to answer that inevitable unasked-for knock at the door which is followed by the trashing of the equally inevitable and unasked-for literature stuck in the outdoor.

Meanwhile the godless march on Wash.D.C. has had about as much affect as when "Punch the Horse" or "Screw the Pooch" *cnacels* an appearance.
On that note the godless lobby has had its its say and no belaboring of that event's moment in history will ever enoble it further than the actual content of the event acheived.
Now please accept this fact like the adult you aspire to be and give the godless a rest till the next momentous demonstration of solidarity in Saganism.
Does this make them Saganists? ;-)

Subject: RE: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: radriano
Date: 08 Nov 02 - 05:28 PM

Look, if it's a BS thread, say so, okay?

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I think you're right, Radriano. "BS" tag added. Mudcatters are reminded that non-music threads should have the "BS" label. In addition, it would have been more appropriate to post a message in the "godless march" thread, rather than starting an entire new thread.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: libertarian
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 05:51 AM

I certainly am glad our forefathers didn't have the pessimistic vision that Taliesn has, and I see she/he also hasn't joined this forum as well. I also am glad to see that people in the past who needed to stop the discrimination against their cause didn't see things the way Taliesn sees them otherwise nothing would ever get done in the way of improving things. This being the very first march of its kind ever, us getting over 3000 people there I feel was an accomplishment especially from all over the world. For those of us that attended also it did makd a difference. For those of you who think it didn't make a difference, you might want to go to the site http://mywebpages.comcast.net/tomfoote3/GMOW/index.htm to see all the pictures. When you get to the first picture of the Washington monument click on the arrow pointing to the right in the upper right hand corner of the page to view other pics. I really hope to spread the positiveness of the march, and get rid of the pessimism.

Subject: RE: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: mg
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 11:42 AM

That was a cruel and nasty post.

mg

Subject: RE: BS: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Nov 02 - 12:01 PM

Gee, it's nasty and cruel to post the facts, sorry 'bout that, but I only post facts. If you would have put some foresight into what you first posted, I wouldn't have had to defend the march!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Nov 02 - 04:06 PM

It wasn't nasty, really, although it was no better than could be expected from the poster, with whom this forum has quite a history by now. I doubt that people who didn't attend could say it didn't matter, because it sure mattered to me! I *love* being an American, where you can harangue your government's policies at the top of your lungs and the cops are there to protect YOU from the god-brandishing hecklers... it was a blast. And I also think that the very fact that there WERE counterdemonstrators would indicate that it mattered to the god-brandishing as well, so I think we accomplished something, which was to have a demonstration with counterdemonstrators and media coverage.

Note that C-SPAN filmed the whole lot and has no plans to air the footage. Hmmm. People who think it should be aired should email or call or write C-SPAN.

Oh, and to bring it back to music, Libertarian ol' buddy here are those lyrics:

Each forefather, too thee
Author of liberty
To thee I sing
Long may our land be bright
With freedom's human light
Thanks to thy great foresignt
We have no king.

That was my version of the second verse to America, which has the greatest first verse of all patriotic songs, I think:>i<

My country, 'tis of thee
Sweet land of liberty
Of thee I sing
Land where our fathers died
Land of thy pilgrim's pride
From every mountainside
Let freedom ring.

Subject: RE: BS: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Nov 02 - 04:54 PM

Not so keen on the tune myself...

Subject: RE: BS: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 11 Nov 02 - 05:10 PM

(quotes)
"Look, if it's a BS thread, say so, okay?"
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I think you're right, Radriano. "BS" tag added. Mudcatters are reminded that non-music threads should have the "BS" label.

In addition, it would have been more appropriate to post a message in the "godless march" thread, rather than starting an entire new thread."
-Joe Offer-
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Alright now , I forgot the protocol of affixing the appropriate prefix of "BS". I'll try not to make that mistake again. This happens when one leaves for a spell. I got busy elsewhere all of a sudden.
However I do have a wee bone of contention over the challenge to the "appropriateness" of my choice to create a separate thread entitled "The Godless march that didn't matter" as my first-reaction countering of Mrzy resurrecting his "Godless march on Washington" announcement for a march way back in June.

It had had its run and though recognizing anyone else's right to free speech opinion I decided that my posting to the already old "Godless March on Washington" was not the appropriate thread to voice my response to the aetheitst's "ressurected" title and thought that bringing that call to aetheist's pride" headline to the top of the list again was inappropriate for me to make my point. They made their free speech points with the "setting of the agenda" headline. I chose to make my free-speech point with an appropirate headline of my own chosing.

*Choice* being the sacrd right everyone would appear to defend.

Part of my message was meant to call Mrzy on his drudging up this apprently dead horse of a thread just to beat the drum of his particular pro-aetheist agenda. No would or should stand in his way.

But what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander where I come from and , thus ,free-speech cuts both ways.
I'm just using free speech to call Mrzy on this using of a long over and done with event that came and went yet, with nothing new of note that is pro-aetheist/libertarian , using it as a label to draw attention again with no real new news to offer.

He and anyone else is certainly *free* to do so as often as they like from here on. No one's rights have been infringed. But there's no guarantee you're gonna agree with what gets posted in response.

In all honesty I thought this thread would have but one or two responses and it would've evaporated of its own. I had made my point , but when I saw a challenge to the legitimacy of chosing a whole new thread ,well then ,that's a whole 'nother matter now ain't it?

Free speech ain't free until everyone's got it in whatever form they chose. That should warm the cockles of any *true* libertarian's heart . ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 02:11 PM

The march was Nov 2nd, not way back in June. Also, if you don't like a thread, you could let it die, no?

I read Harlan Ellison saying something like, people aren't entitled to *any* opinion, just to an informed one. Wonder how that would fly with free speech!

Subject: RE: BS: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: libertarian
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 04:30 PM

mrrzy thanks for the words to the song that should be our national anthem. BTW isn't Atheist spelled Atheist not Aetheist?????   Just wondering if everybody else discovered that?

Subject: RE: BS: The Godless march that didn't matter
From: Bert
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 01:14 AM

And shouldn't those who disagree with Taliesn be called Talie-whackers? *GRIN*