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Subject: title request From: Gary Ewer Date: 01 Jan 98 - 11:51 AM Hello: I was reading the book "Roger Sudden" by Canadian author Thomas Raddall. In it he mentions a folk song that was played by an English Army Band. He doesn't mention the title, but gives some of the lyrics: "Will ye play me fair, Bonnie laddie, Highland laddie?" Can anyone help me with the title of this song, and/or where I might find the melody. Many thanks |
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Subject: RE: From: Barry Date: 01 Jan 98 - 02:10 PM Hieland Laddie started off as a Scottish march & dance, (both Hugill & Doerflinger) & then proceeded to flourish as a shanty, with all types of usage. Never heard it with the ' Will ye play me fair' part though. Barry |
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Subject: RE: From: Susan of DT Date: 01 Jan 98 - 07:12 PM A search for [hieland ladd*] will get you six versions of Bonny Laddie, hieland laddie among the 11 hits. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: HIGHLAND LADDIE From: Murray Date: 02 Jan 98 - 03:08 AM HIGHLAND LADDIE [from G. S. MacQuoid, Jacobite Songs and Ballads, London, n.d.] [also in Hogg, I should think, but I can't lay my hands on that right now.] If thou'lt play me fair play, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Another year for you I'll stay, BLHL [as before] For a' the lassies her abouts, BLHL, Marry none but Geordie's louts, BLHL. The time shall come when their bad choice, BLHL, They will repent, and we rejoice, BLHL; I'll take thee in thy Highland trews, BLHL, Before the rogues that wear the blues, BLHL. Our torments from no cause do spring, Bonny lassie, Lowland lassie, But fighting for our lawful king, BLLL [as before]; Our king's reward will come in time, BLLL; And constant Jenny shall be mine, BLLL. There's no distress that earth can bring, BLLL, But I'd endure for our true king, BLLL; And were my Jenny but my own, BLLL, I'd undervalue Geordie's crown, BLLL. |
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Subject: Bonnie Hieland Laddie From: Naemanson Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:26 PM Technically this is a request for meaning, not of life, but of a term a friend has found in one of the many lyrics to this song. She and I are working on this song to do as a bragging song, two sailors trying to out brag each other, and one of the verses she has found is:
Was you ever in Bombay, What is BOHAY? I know I've not spelled it right but I don't think she has seen it written down, she stole it off a recording somewhere. It is pronounced with a long O. Thanks gang, Brett |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddie From: Gypsy Date: 03 Aug 00 - 01:24 AM Have sent the request to our local shanty man...he knows all, just needs the time to answer |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddie From: Stewie Date: 03 Aug 00 - 01:47 AM Stan Hugill gives the spelling you have in his (b) text for 'Hieland Laddie', but his line reads 'Drinkin' coffee an' bohay?'. Unfortunately, he gives no meaning for it, but the context suggests some type of drink. --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddie From: Naemanson Date: 03 Aug 00 - 06:17 AM That might be it. I think there is a tea called bohai or somthing like that. It's grown in China so I didn't make the connection with India. At least it is a possiblity. Thanks. I look forward to other thoughts on the subject. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddie From: Bud Savoie Date: 03 Aug 00 - 07:12 AM bohea. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddie From: MMario Date: 03 Aug 00 - 09:11 AM yup, it's a tea |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddie From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 03 Aug 00 - 10:03 AM Popular in the 18th. century; Alexander Pope mentions it a lot. Black as opposed to green tea, and latterly used of the lowest quality leaf. The word is supposed to derive from the Wu-i hills in China. Malcolm |
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Subject: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Charcloth Date: 13 Dec 02 - 11:54 PM I am looking for the lyrics to Bonnie Hieland laddy. The version I am looking for was supposed to have been recorded by the Kingston Trio Part of the lyrics are "Was you ever in Quebec, Bonny Laddy Hieland Laddy... This Glasgo town don't suit my notion I'm bound for far far away..." Thanks Charcloth |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BONNY HIELAN' LADDIE (Kingston Trio) From: masato sakurai Date: 14 Dec 02 - 12:09 AM Several versions are in the DT (as HIELAND LADDIE).The Kingston Trio version is HERE: BONNY HIELAN' LADDIE Joe Hickerson/Dave Guard Was you ever in Quebec, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie, stowing timber on the deck, bonny hielan' laddie. Was you ever in Dundee, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie, there some pretty ships you'll see, bonny hielan' laddie. Chorus: Hey, ho, and away we go, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie. Hey, ho, and away we go, bonny hielan' laddie. This Boston town don't suit my notion and I'm bound for far away. So, I'll pack my bag and sail the ocean and I'll see you on another day. Was you ever in Mobile Bay, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie, loading cotton by the day, bonny hielan' laddie. Was you ever 'round Cape Horn, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie, with the Lion and the Unicorn, bonny hielan' laddie. (Chorus) One of these days and it won't be long and I'm bound for far away. You'll take a look around and find me gone and I'll see you on another day. Was you ever in Monterey, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie, on that town with three months pay, bonny hielan' laddie. Was you ever in Aberdeen, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie, prettiest girls that you've ever seen, bonny hielan' laddie. (Chorus) Farewell, dear friends, I'm leaving soon and I'm bound for far away. We'll meet again this coming June and I'll see you on another day. (Chorus) ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: GUEST,MikeOQuinn Date: 14 Dec 02 - 06:40 AM There are, of course, other verses that can be substituted, depending on the crowd... "Don't you ever go to Madrid, the Judies there charge 50 quid, And they never wash, and they smell like squid, bonny hieland laddie" "Was you ever in London-town, the girlies there love to go down ... ... to port when ship's around, bonny hieland laddie" These verses are sung to a different tune than the Kingston Trio uses for this song. (These lines fit the pipe tune "Highland Laddie" a little better, though not perfectly.) They should, however, work in the KT's arrangement, with a little juryrigging. Enjoy! -J |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Charcloth Date: 14 Dec 02 - 08:47 AM As Always Thanks folks,especially You Masato! You are always a great help! Do any of you know which Kingston Trio recording it is on, or for that matter, can you still buy it? Thanks Charcloth |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: masato sakurai Date: 14 Dec 02 - 09:00 AM The Kingston Trio's "Bonny Hielan' Laddie" is on Make Way!/Goin' Places and Guard Years [BOX SET]. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Charcloth Date: 14 Dec 02 - 09:32 AM Thanks again Masato. I just placed my order! Take care Charcloth |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Barry T Date: 15 Dec 02 - 01:04 AM Another variant became known as Donkey Riding. It's definitely the same tune as the pipe march Highland Laddie, and a line or two appear to be common. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Big Tim Date: 15 Dec 02 - 03:21 PM I'm sure, certain(!) that Archie Fisher used to sing a song called "Hielan' Laddie", different from the one discussed so far. Part of it was, "And when will ye come back again, bonnie laddie, hieland' laddie, And when will ye come back again, my bonnie hielan' laddie?" The tune IS similar to "Donkey Riding", which was recorded a couple of years ago by Canadian band, Great Big Sea. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Susanne (skw) Date: 15 Dec 02 - 07:07 PM You're right, Big Tim. See here: Hieland Laddie |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: The Pooka Date: 15 Dec 02 - 07:13 PM In Dublin in Feb. 1983 Tommy Makem & Liam Clancy recorded "Bonnie Highland Laddie" (pronouncing it "hielan'" as above) for the album "Makem and Clancy Live at the National Concert Hall". That album jacket attributes it as "Trad. arr. T. Makem"; but now on www.makem.com the authorship and lyrics are exactly as posted above by yer man, the incomparable Masato. As recorded in '83, though, the M & C concert rendition omits the verses starting "This Boston town...", "One of these days...", and "Farewell..." -- which gave me a helluva fright when I first glanced at the above because, not knowing those verses at all, I first registered the words "Farewell, dear friends, I'm leaving soon and I'm bound for far away" shortly before the signature "~Masato" --- and I roared **OHHH NOOOOOO**.../ then I saw it was just part of the song, thanks be to God. Masato, don't scare me like that! :) But on the 1983 record Tommy & Liam also omit the above Cape Horn, Monterey, and Aberdeen stanzas; and substitute, I guess, the following: Was you ever in Miramachi, bonnie laddie, hieland laddie, There you tie fast to a tree, bonnie hieland laddie Was you ever in [???], bonnie laddie, hieland laddie Yankee boys are on the go (?), bonnie hieland laddie Was you every in Halifax town... Staggerin' up and staggerin' down... Was you ever in Baltimore... Dancin' on a sanded floor... Was you ever in Dublin Bay... Drinkin' porter all the day... Aah T. Makem was always fierce at the old arrangin' & adaptin'. Still is. I love GBS's "Donkey Riding". |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Snuffy Date: 15 Dec 02 - 07:45 PM Another great Irishman, old GBS. My Fair Lady was great, but I didn't know he'd done any shanties. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: The Pooka Date: 15 Dec 02 - 07:54 PM Heh heh heh...thankee, McSnuffy...no, and I don't suppose he every lived in any, either...though I heard he was once spotted Riding on a Donkey...hm, maybe his estate can sue these punks? Great Big Sea |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: GUEST,iancarterb Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:37 AM All the cranes in the harbor of Part au Prince are on their side, and there will be lighters carrying cargo to the shore, and humans carrying it from there. I'm sure they could use some topical verses. I offer these, but there will likely be many. Was you ever on Haiti's shore, bonny laddie, hielan' laddie, Burying bodies by the score, my bonny hielan' laddie. Was you ever on Haiti's shore We robbed 'em blind and left 'em poor. Was you ever in Port au Prince The suffering makes a strong man wince. If the tradition didn't include chanteys with names like Cal eh oh and Chai ell for Callao and Chile, I'd try rhyming Port a Prince with pants, as I believe they pronounce it locally. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Rowan Date: 15 Jan 10 - 10:54 PM Was you ever in [???], bonnie laddie, hieland laddie Yankee boys are on the go (?), bonnie hieland laddie was sung as Was you ever in Callao, bonnie laddie, hieland laddie Where the girls are all the go, bonnie hieland laddie when I was a Melbourne shantyman in the early 70s. Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: Lyr Add: HIGHLAND LADDIE (from James Hogg, 1810) From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Jan 10 - 02:34 PM From The Forest Minstrel by James Hogg (Edinburgh: James Hogg, 1810), page 210: ^^ HIGHLAND LADDIE. "Were ye at Drummossie moor, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie? Saw ye the Duke the clans o'erpower, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie?" "Yes, I have seen that fatal fray, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie; And my heart bleeds from day to day, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie. "Many a lord of high degree, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Will never more their mountains see, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie; Many a chief of birth and fame, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Are hunted down like savage game, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie. "What could the remnant do but yield, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie? A generous chief twice gains the field, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Posterity will ne'er us blame, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie; But brand with blood the Brunswick name, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie. "O may it prove for Scotland's good! Bonny laddie, Highland laddie. But why so drench our glens with blood? Bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Duke William nam'd, or yonder moor, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Will fire our blood for evermore, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie." |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: Gibb Sahib Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:10 PM Great find, Jim. Another variant of the Hielan Laddie lyrical theme occurs in Stan Hugill's SHANTIES FROM THE SEVEN SEAS. I have never heard anyone perform it yet, so I wonder how common it is/was. Here's my attempt to realize the text: My Bonnie Highland Lassie Gibb |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE HIGHLAND LADDIE (from J Hogg, 1871) From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:14 PM The Jacobite Relics of Scotland by James Hogg (Edinburgh: William Blackwood, 1871), page 125: ^^ SONG LXIII. THE HIGHLAND LADDIE. Princely is my lover's weed, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Fu' his veins o' princely blude, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie, The gay bonnet circles roun', Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Brows wad better fa' a crown, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. There's a hand the sceptre bruiks, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Better fa's the butcher's creuks, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. There's a hand the braid sword draws, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, The gowden sceptre seemlier fa's, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. He's the best piper i' the north, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, And has dang a' ayont the Forth, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Soon at the Tweed he mints to blaw, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Here's the lad ance far awa, The bonny laddie, Highland laddie! There's nae a Southron fiddler's hum, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Can bide the war-pipe's deadly strum, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie: And the targe and braid sword's twang, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, To hastier march will gar them gang, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. And he'll raise sic an eldritch drone, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, He'll wake the snorers round the throne, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie; Till frae his daddie's chair he blaw, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, "To your ain, my true men a'," My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: GEORDIE SITS IN CHARLIE'S CHAIR From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:17 PM The Jacobite Relics of Scotland by James Hogg (Edinburgh: William Blackwood, 1871), page 202: SONG CV. GEORDIE SITS IN CHARLIE'S CHAIR. For the Air, see Song LXIII of this Volume. Geordie sits in Charlie's chair, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie; Deil cock him gin he sit there, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie! Charlie yet shall mount the throne, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie; Weel ye ken it is his own, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Weary fa' the Lawland loon, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Wha took frae him the British crown, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. But weel's me on the kilted clans, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, That fought for him at Prestonpans, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Ken ye the news I hae to tell, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie? Cumberland's awa to hell, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. When he came to the Stygian shore, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, The deil himsel wi' fright did roar, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie Then Charon grim came out to him, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie; "Ye're welcome here, ye devil's limb!" My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. They pat on him a philabeg, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, And in his doup they ca'd a peg, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. How he did skip and he did roar, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie! The deils ne'er saw sic sport before, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. They took him neist to Satan's ha', Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, To lilt it wi' his grandpapa, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. The deil sat girnin in the neuk, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Riving sticks to roast the duke, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. They pat him neist upon a spit, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, And roasted him baith head and feet, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Wi' scalding brunstane and wi' fat, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, They flamm'd his carcass weel wi' that, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. They ate him up baith stoop and roop, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie; And that's the gate they serv'd the duke, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: LAWLAND LASSIE (from James Hogg, 1871) From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:22 PM The Jacobite Relics of Scotland by James Hogg (Edinburgh: William Blackwood, 1871), page 204: SONG CVI. LAWLAND LASSIE. To the foregoing Air. HE. The pipers play, the trumpets sound, Bonny lassie, Lowland lassie, And a' the hills a name resound, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie, That maun every heart invite, Bonny lassie, Lawland lassie, For freedom and our prince to fight, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie. SHE. In vain you strive to sooth my pain, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, With that much-lov'd and glorious name, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. I, too fond maid, gave you a heart, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, With which you now so freely part, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. HE. No passion could with me prevail, Bonny lassie, Lawland lassie, When king and country's in the scale, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie. Yet a conflict in my soul, Bonny lassie, Lawland lassie, Tells me love will not control, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie. SHE. A high pretext! I'll sooner die, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Than see you thus inconstant fly, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie, And leave me to th' insulting crew, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Of Whigs to mock for trusting you, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. HE. Dear Jenny, I my leave maun take, Bonny lassie, Lawland lassie, Yet never will my love forsake, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie. Then why should my dear lass repine, Bonny lassie, Lawland lassie? For Charles shall reign, and she's be mine, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie. SHE. My fondness never shall control, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, The gen'rous ardour of your soul, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. Then let the sun turn east away, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Ere aught your manly courage stay, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. HE. Your charms, your sense, your noble mind, Bonny lassie, Lawland lassie, Wad make the heart o' savage kind, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie. For me, my sole delight shall be, Bonny lassie, Lawland lassie, My prince's right, and love of thee, My bonny lassie, Lawland lassie. SHE. Go, for yourself procure renown, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, And for your lawful king his crown, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie And only then hope you to find, Bonny laddie, Highland laddie, Your Jenny constant to your mind, My bonny laddie, Highland laddie. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie hieland laddy From: dick greenhaus Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:58 PM Wasn't it James Hogg who wrote the lyrics for the version of Hielan Laddie that Beethoven included in his 25 Scottish Songs?
Where got ye that siller moon,
Weels me on your tartan trews,
Or that doure and deadly Duke,
Wou'd ye tell me gin ye ken, |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddy / Highland Laddie From: GUEST Date: 13 Jan 11 - 10:02 PM I may have missed it but is this song base on Robbie Burns poem? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddy / Highland Laddie From: Jim McLean Date: 14 Jan 11 - 10:27 AM Burns contributed a song to Johnson's Scots Musical Museum, #481, which starts: The bonniest lad that e're I saw, Bonnie laddie, highland laddie, Wore a plaid and was fu' braw, Bonnie Highland laddie. but this was compiled from some Jacobite verses printed in "Collection of Loyal Songs, Poems,&c. 1750". The Highland Lad and Lawland Lassie Tune: If thou'lt play me fair play and begins: The cannons roar and trumpets sound, Bonnie Lassie, lawland lassie, An' a' the hills wi' Charles resound. Bonnie Lawland Lassie. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bonnie Hieland Laddy / Highland Laddie From: Jim McLean Date: 14 Jan 11 - 11:50 AM There is a lot of information on this song/s in William Stenhouse's Illustrations to the JSMM, page 414. Another quote by Burns in the Reliques " ..... one of these old songs ... in these four lines .... "Where hae ye been a' the day, Bonnie laddie Highland laddie, Down the back o' Bell's brae, Courtin' Maggie, courtin' Maggie |
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