Tune Req: Rosbif Waltz

Subject: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: alison
Date: 07 Jul 98 - 07:17 AM

Hi,

Heard a lovely tune at a folk club on the weekend. the girl playing reckoned it was Canadian and called "Ros bif".

Anyone got the music?

Slainte

Alison

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Martin Pearson
Date: 07 Jul 98 - 07:57 PM

I believe the tune is from the North of england. (It's "roast beef" with an accent) Sharon Doro recorded it in australia about two years ago and I have the tape here, but I don't know how that will help you. Your right its a lovrly tune, we used to play it in Brissy on harp and low D.

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Helen
Date: 08 Jul 98 - 05:49 PM

Yes, it is a lovely tune. We play it here in Newcastle, australia, at our regular sessions on harp (me), accordion, mandolin, guitar & whistle. It is the favourite session tune of almost everyone in the group.

We have the music from a book called Country Dance Tunes or something - I'll see if I can track down the proper title. As far as I know (hearsay) it was composed by a folk group called "Rosbif" and they called the tune "Rosbif Waltz". I tried to find out any info on it about a year ago trough Mudcat and through internet searches but I couldn't find anything.

BTW, "Rosbif" means "roast beef" in French, and I believe it is their term for the English people - a comment on the narrow diet of the English, according to my high school French teacher.

Helen

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Helen
Date: 20 May 00 - 07:06 PM

I was on HearMe a couple of days ago and Mbo played Rosbif Waltz which he got from Alison. This goes back to the first personal contact I had with Alison because I sent her the sheet music back in July 1998 and she made it into a midi file. Then she played it on HearMe and sent the GIF to Mbo and then it came full circle because I heard him play it on guitar - beautiful.

So I thought it might make it easier to post it on the MIDI page rather than everyone e-mailing it around individually. I can find out the details of a book of tunes by the Rosbif band which has the waltz in it. The book is called Massif Central and is available from Celtic Southern Cross in Tasmania.

Rosbif Waltz, is by a band which I believe is called Rosbif, possibly a Canadian Band

Helen

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: alison
Date: 21 May 00 - 01:46 AM

I played it along with Helen at St Albans... flute and harp... lovely...

I couldn't access the site.. but I've sent a MIDI (arangement that I never mixed down properly.. but it'll give you an idea....) of it to Alan of Oz.. so hopefully it'll appear on Mudcat MIDI soon...

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Helen
Date: 21 May 00 - 05:23 AM

Alison,

I only sent the tune to Alan today so it hasn't been posted on his page yet

Helen

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 21 May 00 - 11:48 AM

Rosbif were an English band -based down South so far as I remember- though they specialised in traditional and new music in the (European) French style.  There was at least one record, Bourré à Six, which I believe is now deleted (wish I'd bought it when I had the chance).  Mel Stevens, compiler of the two Massif Central Tune Books (published by Dragonfly Music, Newbiggin-by-the-Sea, UK) currently plays with  The Drift.  I look forward to hearing the midi.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Mbo
Date: 21 May 00 - 01:00 PM

Thanks Helen, I enjoyed playing it for you! Thanks for starting off the whole chain reaction! Folk process at it's best! YES! It's what this place is all about!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 22 May 00 - 08:35 PM

G'day,
Thanks to Helen & alison the tune for "Rosbif Waltz" can be found here at the Mudcat MIDI site.

Cheers,
Alan

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: alison
Date: 23 May 00 - 01:29 AM

Thanks Alan

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: ?Canadian tune 'Ros bif
From: Spider Tom
Date: 23 May 00 - 07:44 AM

Thank you all for introducing me to this tune.
It is lovely.
Spider Tom/Ken

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Ptollemy, Melbourne, Australia
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 12:10 AM

A fabulous version of these tune can be heard on one of the "Moving Harps" CDs - sorry, can't remember which one.

"Moving Harps" are a fantastic Australian Harp trio who play a lot of Irish and Paraguyan tunes. The trio are David Rackham, Andy Rigby and David Alleway, and I highly recommend them!

Cheers
Ptollemy

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 01:00 AM

Thanks Ptollemy for refreshing this thread - a great tune. Looking forward to seeing and hearing Andy Rigby at the Maldon (Victoria) Folk Festival at end of October - my favouritest festival.

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 07:25 AM

I must say that after many years after Mel Stevens and I recorded this tune it is a great surprise that it has appeared on this site with a lovely midi file version.
Rosbif originated from an English Country dance band called "The biggest trio in the World".
We were performing in France at the Ris Orangis Folk Festival and when we finished at about twelve thirty another group came on stage called Fubu.They played traditional French music from Central France and we loved it and in particular a waltz played on two hurdy gurdys called The Fubu Walz.Mel a bagpipe fanatic decided he would build his own French bagpipes,we found Richard Smith a local builder and player of the Hurdy Gurdy.I was initially asked to play melodion ,a more traditional line up,but I managed to change Mels thinking to me playing concertina,which I thought blended nicely with the hurdy gurdy.Mel was at that time regularly going to French dance and folk weekends and was amazed to find that hardly any music was in print and started to write it out as he heard it.It eventually formed the basis of the two books Massif book of French dance music.To Mels embarrasment it started selling in France.
Rosbif made two records Traditional French music from Central France and Bouree a Six the waltz refered to in this discussion was on the first album with Mel on Melodion and me on CG Jeffries Anglo concertina.
Thank you all for your interest in the tune which Mel collected in France and could not find the name.I do not think it is Canadian but if anybody knows it is,I would be gratefull for the information.
Kind regards
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 08:28 AM

The MIDI is a great rendition as Alan testifies. Here's an ABC version of the melody - this notation might help to find its French ancestor on the Web:

X:1
T:ROSBIF Melody
M:3/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=100
K:C
z4AB|c2AB cA|c2AB cA|B2GA BG|A2A4|c2AB cA|
c2AB cA|BA GA BG|e2e4|e2cd ec|d2d4|
c2AB cA|B2B4|c2AB cA|cB AB cA|BA GA BG|
A2A2AB|c2AB cA|c2AB cA|B2GA BG|A2A4|
c2AB cA|c2AB cA|BA GA BG|e2e4|e2cd ec|d2d4|
c2AB cA|B2B4|c2AB cA|cB AB cA|BA GA BG|A2A4|]

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 10:09 AM

Using the ABC notation I tried an online search at Richard Robinson'e Tunebook Search site HERE . Theoretically you only need to enter a small scrap of the tune (and if a corresponding tune is in his large collection) you should be able to find a match - even if the key is different.

Unfortunately Richard's software has a glitch at the moment and won't give any results for snippets of ABC notes.

It's not a bad facility for dance tunes, but don''t expect too many songs to be in his collection.

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Mooh
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 10:10 AM

Interesting! Does anyone have it, or a source for it, in standard notation? Thanks!

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 12:33 PM

Mooh - there is a very useful online conversion page which you paste the ABC into and it will convert it to MIDI and also to Printed "Dots" in downloadable PDF format.
The converter can be found at CONCERTINA.net
You need to copy the ABC from the X: to the end. Then paste it into the "Convert-A-Matic" and click onto "Submit".
Quack!!
Geoff the Duck.

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Dead Horse
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 02:43 PM

For what it's woth, a friend of mine, Yves Langlois, has written a cajun boogie called "Ros Bif Boogie" and he says that Boeuf is also the French colloquial word for a "jam session"....hence bif.

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 05:35 PM

Since my posting for those of you interested I have found that
www.netsoundsmusic.com have both Rosbif albums in stock the Rosbif Waltz is on the first record "Traditional Dance Music from Central France"
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 05:47 PM

Alan,

Thanks very much for the information. It's lovely to hear from someone involved at the "source". My friends and I have been playing this tune ever since someone found it in the book called A Country Dance Collection (or similar title - can't remember exactly). I wanted to know more about it but couldn't seem to track it down.

I bought thetwo Massif Central tune books in the hope of finding out more about it but I couldn't find it in there.

My sister and I play Rosbif Waltz, she plays flute & I play lever harp, and it is my favourite of all the tunes we play. I will send her the link to this page so that she can read what you said, too.

Thanks. You've made my day!! (It's 7.45 am here in eastern Australia, so my day has just started.)

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Mooh
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 08:16 PM

Geoff...Thanks, I'll try that...er, with my kid's help as she's much better with the 'puter than her Dad. Mooh.

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 10:08 PM

Mooh or others, I extracted the melody line only and only for part of the piece. If you'd like an ABC of the whole piece - with all parts - let me know and I'll post it here in ABC format. Having said that I don't know whether Concertina.com can handle multi stave music - I'd better check.

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 06:02 AM

Hallo Helen
Thank you for your lovely posting.
Mel and I recorded the Waltz about 12 years ago(or longer).If you are interested
in what I am up to now have a look on my site,where there is about twenty free MP3s to download of my favourites.
www.filmsonglass.co.uk/concertina-index.htm
Take care
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 08:43 AM

Thanks Alan,

I had a quick listen to the mp3's this morning. I'll go back and check it out again when I have a bit more time. Is the Rosbif Waltz in the Massif Central books 1 or 2?

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 11:54 AM

Helen,
I see that you could not find the tune in Mel`s book but I will have a look this evening and let you know.
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 06:20 PM

Thanks Al.

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Al;an Day
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 11:35 AM

I had a look Helen and checked all the un named waltzes and you are right it is not there.If I find the dots I will be in touch.
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 03:36 PM

Thanks, Al. I have the dots from the Country Dance Book (or whatever the title is) but I was interested to see it from its earlier source. It was just a search for more info really, and you have given us that here so I am a happy little Vegemite now.

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 08:03 PM

Did a further check to see if I could get a match at Richard Robinson's database of ABC (largely) dance tunes. Not surprisingly it's not too hard to get a match on a single bar, but as I extended this I got no further matches, whether French or not.

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: leeneia
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 12:19 PM

Thanks ever so for posting the MIDI of this waltz. I love it!

BTW, "Rosbif" is, among other things, French slang for an Englishman.

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Alexis
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 03:53 PM

Massif Central books are out of print. Any one know if there are plans to print some more?
Cheers
Alex

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:37 PM

Hallo Alex,
I was talking to Mel Stevens about his books at the same time as letting him know about all your postings regarding the waltz.It is out of Print but Mel has a large stock of each and I think you will find other stockists still have them.
If you have problems let me know and I will pass on Mels Email address for you to contact him.He lives in Burgess Hill In Sussex.
I do not know how to extract emails of people who write on this site but if anyone wants to contact me click on my name on concertina.net and a contact email link is there.
Following requests elswhere Netsounds are investigating the re issue of the Rosbif recordings in CD format, if it happens I will let you know and of course it would depend on how many people actually wanted it.
Just out of interest has anyone actually heard us play the waltz,I must say I would find it amusing if nobody has?
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:52 PM

This is where I bought the Massif Central books by mail order. Lovely people down in Tassie (Tasmania) in a company called Celtic Southern Cross.

I just checked that link and the books are still listed.

Mooh, I use
NoteWorthy music notation software to translate midi files into dots. Noteworthy is available for a free download, but I paid the modest sum they are asking for a full version of the software. The advantage of the NW free download is that you can print out the dots where other music notation programme downloads will block the printing capability until you buy the full version.

All I do is load the midi into NW, then print it out. But you can also transpose it, or change the arrangement, or just watch it note for note as it plays.

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 06:11 PM

Alan, I have never heard you performing Rosbif Waltz, or anything else.
I only know the tune from the book of country dances but our regular music session group started playing it a few years ago and it has become one of my all-out favourites. I did do a search on the 'net when we first discovered the tune but I couldn't find anything.

I checked out netsounds but there is no point in me ordering a vinyl record, no matter how seriously tempted I am, because my record player has remained unattached to my stereo for 6 years because I don't have room to fit it into the cabinet with the other components.

If CD's were available for both the Rosbif albums I would definitely buy them. I nearly bought the vinyls when I saw them because I have been looking for them for so long, but CD's would be a lot easier for me.

The majority of people I know who have heard Rosbif Waltz or who have played it keep coming back to it, so I know that tune has a big appeal and if other tunes on the albums are as interesting, and catchy, then I think there would be a market in the folk scene for these as CD's. The Massif Central books are obviously popular among folk musicians so I would imagine that there would be a market for the CD's. And there is definitely interest among folkies for tunes from different places.

Another bunch of tunes we started playing in our session were Swedish fiddle tunes. They were fun too, and interesting because the musical "lingo" was different - same notes but different rhythms or positioning or progression of notes compared to our regular session repertoire. It was like an insight into another musical culture, learning to play those tunes. Almost like learning a new language. So the French tunes would be fun too, but it would be even more of an experience to hear them being played close to the way they were collected to get the real feel of the music.

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 03:56 AM

Hallo Helen,
If you let me have your address I will post off a tape copy of the two records for you to listen to.(no charge)
[e-mail] (dot)co(dot)uk
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 09:30 AM

For all you lovers of French Waltzes try and find
"Amour Et Printemps"it was featured on our record Bourree A six.
See if you like that one as much.I hope you do.
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Alexis
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 03:32 PM

Played a ceilidh over the weekend in a scratch band, ended up playing another lovely Rosbif tune called La FOntaine Verte. Does anyone know whether this is available on either ABC or dots anywhere ?
Cheers Alex

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 04:06 PM

Thanks, Al. That would be wonderful. I'll e-mail you straight away.

I only do this if the albums are not available, and I would definitely buy the CD's if they are issued, so I consider this as a sampler to induce me to buy, rather than the easy way out. Just wanted you to know that, i.e. that I am aware of royalties/copyright etc. so I appreciate your offer very much.

Is this the "Amour Et Printemps" you meant? I like it.

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 06:18 PM

Very interesting Helen ,we only play the chorus part the introduction I have never heard.When you get the tape you may be interested in the bit we play.Also the A part is slightly different but your version may be the correct one and ours not.
As for royalties I will not get excited ,I think even when we were featured on the radio over here the years royalties amounted to about £3.50 and it was taxable.I am just pleased you are enjoying the tune.
If you can push the royalties up to say £3.75 it may buy a nice bacon sandwich however.
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 01:01 AM

I just e-mailed Alan to thank him for the tape and CD he sent me but I am posting my reply to him here as well because I really loved listening to the music. So I wanted to share my thoughts here.

"Hi Alan,

"This might be a postal service record, but I received the tape & CD yesterday, 2nd November. I have been busy and also working full time but I have been able to listen to one side of the tape - the one with Rosbif Waltz on it of course. I love the music. Just my kind of music. Rollicking good fun, great rhythms, and I really love the hurdy-gurdy - both the sound and rhythm of it, and the type of music which suits it.

"I also like your two tunes that you sent me via email. I've listened to them a couple of times so far. I think I like the Winkle one slightly more than the other one if I had to choose between them.

"After I have a chance to hear the other side of the tape and the CD I'll give you some more of my thoughts.

"Rosbif Waltz sounds so different from the way my sister and I play it - slower and with a more lilting feel, and from the way we played it in the music sessions. Alison at Mudcat, who also posted to this thread has put an mp3 (I think) of herself and her music duo partner playing it with harp ( I think), tin whistle and guitar. It's a lovely arrangement.

"I think that that is the major charm of the tune. It can be played in so many different ways and sounds good whatever way I hear it. Slow, fast, with drum rhythm, with accompaniment, solo, as an arrangement, etc etc.

"Thanks again for sending me the music. It really is exciting being able to track back to the roots and branches of the tune."

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 01:05 AM

I don't think alison put her link to her mp3 file here. Definitely one of the nicest arrangements I have heard.

Alison Boyd - Sound Files

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 03:47 AM

Helen, was part of a conversation with Andy Rigby last Friday at the Maldon Folk Festival. Apparently he plays it (I presume on harp) but we got side-tracked. I'll give him a buzz sometime and see whether he has recorded it.

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Mo Bradshaw
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 04:37 AM

What a timely thread! We have been playing this tune, which we called 'A French Waltz' for a number of years, having learned it from the Rosbif recording, and it is one that is often requested at sessions. Only yesterday we were asked for the music, and I just happened to look at this thread today!

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Alan Day
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 11:06 AM

This tune was originally collected by a lovely French guy called Phillipe Krumm.Phillipe organised many French festivals including Ris Orangis and played melodion in a band called Paris Centre.I think we have been a bit lucky here as Phillipe never recorded (as far as I know) this tune.Where he got it from I do not know.Mel wrote it down one night when we were having a session.The band specialised in music from the Auvergne area so I would not be suprised if that is where it originated.
Phillipe and I visited an event he was organising at a museum of push pull instruments which was being recorded for French TV, as at that time he had no one to demonsrate the concertina he asked me to do a spot.This worried be a bit, but not as much as a clowns concertina I picked up for the first time and was enjoying myself in a corner and the TV director said "We would like you to play that as well".My mates said I looked terrified as the camera came over my shoulder to film my playing on TV after an hours practice.
Al

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 06:44 PM

I'm listening to the tape again, and you're right, Al. Amour et Printemps is beautiful. I love the arrangement.

March of the Cabrettaires sounds familiar too, but I don't know where I have heard it. There are a few tunes that I have heard somewhere before. I'll have to work out what they are called from the tape (that involves trying to keep the left brain engaged enough to count the tracks and match them up with the playlist while the right brain is frolicking around and enjoying the music. :-)    )

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Stewart
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 03:06 PM

Here's the full abc version of the midi (John in Bisbrane only did the first part in abc). I transposed this to Gminor (relative minor of Bflat major) since I prefer playing this flat key on the fiddle. Also this key allows some nice open-string double stops.

X:1
T:Rosbif Waltz
M:3/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=100
K:Bb
z4GA|:B2GA BG|B2GA BG|A2FG AF|G2G4|B2GA BG|
B2GA BG|AG FG AF|d2d4|d2Bc dB|c2c4|B2GA BG|
A2A4|B2GA BG|BA GA BG|AG FG AF|[1G2G2GA:|[2G2G4
|:d2e2d2|B4B2|d2e2d2|c4c2|c2cA FA|c2cA FA|c4B2|G6:|
|:B3A B2|c4c2|d2f2e2|d3c B2|g3f e2|d3c B2|[1c4c2|d6:|[2c4B2|G6|]

Cheers, S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 04:16 PM

Thanks forthat, Stewart. A lovely version of it. Some slight differences in the length of some notes adds even more to the tune.

Did you listen to the midi version at Mudcat Midi Pages?      
See the posting above from Alan of Australia
Date: 22 May 00 - 08:35 PM

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: Helen
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 06:41 PM

I just want to rave about the tape of two Rosbif albums and the GIG CB (George Inn Giant Ceilidh Band) CD that Alan Day sent me so that I could finally hear the Rosbif Waltz and other tunes.

I love this music! I can't get it out of my head. The more I hear the Rosbif Waltz the more I like it and the more I know that it can magically transform itself according to the style of playing, slow, fast, danceable, lilting, etc.

I am also captivated by many of the other tunes, e.g March of the Cabrettaires, and Les Filles de Mon Pays, and Amour et Printemps, and...and...and.... well, all of them, really.

I really hope the Rosbif albums can be put out on CD because I want to play them over and over and I want other people to be able to hear them too.

Where have I been for the last couple of decades that I have never heard this music before?

Helen

Subject: RE: Canadian tune: Ros bif (Rosbif Waltz)
From: GUEST,Morgana
Date: 25 Jan 06 - 02:47 AM

Hi all,

I'm pretty sure that Rosbif Waltz is recorded on one of the "Moving Harps" CDs (Moving Harps is Andy Rigby, Dave Rakham and Dave Allaway, although I'm sure I spent the last surname wrong :)

Cheers
Morgana