Subject: Lyr Add: HAT MCGINNIS WORE and HAT NED KELLY WORE From: Bob Bolton Date: 13 Jul 98 - 06:36 PM G'day, These are Australian collected variants of "The Hat My Father Wore." Regards, Bob Bolton
THE HAT MCGINNIS WORE
Good evening to you one and all, good luck to you I say,
Now McGinnis was an Irishman, from Newry town he came,
Now shipmates take this good old hat and treat it with respect,
THE HAT NED KELLY WORE
Good evening to youse one and all, good luck to what I say,
You may talk about your cheese cutters and your stiff brim panamas.
Source for both: A Collector's Songbook, Collected in Australia and compiled by Alan Scott, Bush Music Club, Sydney, 1970. Republished by Carrawobity Press, 1996. |
Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ... From: Martin Ryan. Date: 13 Jul 98 - 07:45 PM Any idea of how long this is around?
Regards |
Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ... From: Bob Bolton Date: 14 Jul 98 - 01:36 AM G'day Martin, As you see from the dates, these were collected in the early 1960s from elderly informants in the central districts of NSW. The first is probably out of the deep pool of Irish memories and would not be dated by the singer as anything more than old. The second one refers to Ned Kelly, a bushranger hanged in 1880, but has little real connection with his story. It probably comes from at least a generation after his demise - say, 1905 give or take 10 years. This puts it well into the music hall style and treatment that are obvious in the words. It is not really a very significant song, but it illustrates the casual parody of old material for current, or even social, purposes. Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ... From: Bert Date: 14 Jul 98 - 08:50 AM And, talking of hats, or should I say singing? I remember my Mother singing this one with a few of the local ladies at our community's coronation celebrations in England. This old hat of mine, the inside is quite new the outside it has seen some dirty weather I cast this hat aside and then I travel wide Far 'cross the sea I'm going to wander. They then went through all other articles of clothing until they were stripped down to their combs. (long johns) Bert. |
Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ... From: dick greenhaus Date: 14 Jul 98 - 09:57 AM Bert- Remember any more of this? Interesting variant on All For My Grog |
Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ... From: Bert Date: 14 Jul 98 - 02:44 PM They just went through each item of clothing and threw it over their shoulder at the end of the verse. As I remember it went... Hat Coat jacket shoes socks blouse pants. |
Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ... From: Martin Ryan. Date: 14 Jul 98 - 06:39 PM The Orange song "The sash my father wore" seems to have appeared as late as the end of the last century - so it seems to derive from "The hat...". What really interests me is - what was before the hat! Regards |
Subject: Tune Add: HAT MCGINNIS WORE and HAT NED KELLY WORE From: Bob Bolton Date: 19 Jul 98 - 07:44 PM G'day all .. and DT, The wonders of modern computing science! That tune posted to the 'Cyprus Brig' thread looks good (until I hear from someone who tries to download it). I shall plug on with the other tunes for songs I posted last week. These are the tunes Alan Scott collected in the 1960s for the two "Hats ..." songs. THE HAT MCGINNIS WORE
MIDI file: hat-mcgn.mid Timebase: 240 TimeSig: 6/8 36 8 This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
THE HAT NED KELLY WORE
MIDI file: hat-nedk.mid Timebase: 240 TimeSig: 2/4 24 8 This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
Enjoy! Bob Bolton |
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