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Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?

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SINSULL 13 Feb 03 - 08:49 PM
GUEST 13 Feb 03 - 08:05 PM
maire-aine 13 Feb 03 - 08:02 PM
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Thomas the Rhymer 13 Feb 03 - 07:33 PM
Bobert 13 Feb 03 - 07:25 PM
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mack/misophist 13 Feb 03 - 07:17 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 13 Feb 03 - 07:13 PM
Gareth 13 Feb 03 - 07:13 PM
GUEST,The Hated Guest 13 Feb 03 - 07:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 08:49 PM

Definitely "Masters Of War". "...and I will stand over your grave to be sure that you're dead." Damn! If the mailman sees this I'll be picked up for threatening the president. Does it count that he wasn't elected? Doesn't matter. It's worth it.


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 08:05 PM

My pleasure maire-aine. I'm making their cookie recipe for Saturday's demo, only I'm adding chopped cranberries instead of raisins. They are so yummy with a dollop of hot latte for those cold winter marches!


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: maire-aine
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 08:02 PM

Thanks, Guest, for the link to Raging Grannies. I'll look for them.


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:50 PM

The most rousing, in my book, is "Get Up, Stand Up" by Brother Bob.

Then there is John Prine's "Sam Stone".

Pete's "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy".

For inspiration, try a visit to the Raging Grannies Without Borders website--it has a bunch of anti-war songs, new and recycled.

Raging Grannies Anti-War Songs


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:33 PM

YIKES!!! What a blooper! "When Johnny comes marching home" is to be stricken from this thread and thrown out onto the courthouse steps... I meant to say "Johnny I hardly knew ye". Guthrie's "I'd like to know" is powerful... ttr


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:25 PM

"Masters of War" would be my 1st choice.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:22 PM

the ballad of the green berets.


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:17 PM

Johnny, I hardly Knew Ya. One of the first, one of the best.


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:13 PM

There are so many!

Christmas in the Trenches
The Holy Ground
Arthur McBride [No Man's Land]
A Handful of Earth
Where have all the flowers gone
Ain't gonna study war no more
When Johnny Comes Marching Home
The Press Gang
Etc, etc, etc...

My current fave is "Holy Ground" and I sing it most every day... ttr


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Gareth
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:13 PM

Mmmm ! If were voting on this suggest When Johnny Comes Marching Home, which must still stand Dr Strangelove notwithstanding.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: GUEST,The Hated Guest
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 07:09 PM

Yeah...With God on Our Side, and even Masters of War. Both great songs. But what I like about 'And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda' is the blend of melody with the words. Kind of a pensive lament...haunting melody with devastating words. Just my opinion. I like 'em all.


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:52 PM

Oh, yeah ... MeLINDA ...


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Ed.
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:51 PM

With God on Our Side - Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: GUEST,The Hated Guest
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:51 PM

Don't have the liner notes...Eric Bogel wrote the Pogues version? I WAS careful to put 'as done by'. Didn't know it was so current. Sorry if I offended. It's an incredible song.


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:47 PM

Maybe it was Uriah Heep ...


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:43 PM

"Come Away Melinda",
was recorded by Judy Collins in the early sixties.
Who wrote it I am not sure. May be Judy? Maybe Shel Silverstein.
Mott The Hopple? Really? I'd have never guessed.

Don


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:38 PM

Come away, Matilda [Come Away Melinda] was a good 'un ... who was that, Mott the Hoople?


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: nutty
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:38 PM

Another Eric Bogle classic is "All the Fine Young Men"


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Melani
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:35 PM

"No Man's Land" is a different song. The one above is "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda." Both by Eric Bogle. They're both right up there. I would also include "Mothers, Daughters, Wives" by Judy Small.


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Francy
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:34 PM

Sorry,,,wrong song.....And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda by Eric Bogle......No Man's Land is another great anti war song by Eric....Frank Of Toledo


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Subject: RE: Review: Greatest Anti-War Song Ever?
From: Francy
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 06:32 PM

It miight have been recorded by the "Pogues". but it was written by Eric Bogle and sung by him and many others....No Man's Land....Frank of toledo


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Subject: Lyr Add: AND THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 03 - 05:53 PM

What would be your nominee?

WALTZING MATILDA, as done by the Pogues:

When I was a young man I carried my pack
And I lived the free life of a rover
From the Murrays green basin to the dusty outback
I waltzed my Matilda all over
Then in nineteen fifteen my country said son
It's time to stop rambling 'cos there's work to be done
So they gave me a tin hat and they gave me a gun
And they sent me away to the war.

And the band played Waltzing Matilda
As we sailed away from the quay
And amidst all the tears and the shouts and the cheers
We sailed off to Galipoli.

How well I remember that terrible day
How the blood stained the sand and the water
And how in that town that they called Sulva bay
We were butchered like lambs at the slaughter
Johnny Turk he was ready he primed himself well
He chased us with bullets he rained us with shells
And in five minutes flat he'd blown us all to hell
Nearly blew us right back to Australia.

But the band played Waltzing Matilda
As we stopped to bury our slain
We buried ours and the Turks buried theirs
Then we started all over again.

Now those who were left, well we tried to survive
In a mad world of blood death and fire
And for ten weary weeks I kept myself alive
But around me the corpses piled higher
Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over tit
And I woke up in my hospital bed
I saw what it had done and I wished I was dead
Never knew there were worse things than dying.

For I'll go no more Waltzing Matilda
All around the green bush far and near
For to hump tent and pegs a man needs both legs
No more Waltzing Matilda for me.

So the collected the cripples the wounded the maimed
And they shipped us back home to Australia
The armless the legless the blind the insane
Those proud wounded heroes of Suvla
And as our ship pulled into Circular Quay
I looked at the place my legs used to be
And thank Christ there was no one there waiting for me
To grieve and to mourn and to pity.

And the band played Waltzing Matilda
As they carried us down the gangway
But nobody cheered they just stood and stared
Then turned all their faces away.

And now every April I sit on my porch
And I watch the parade pass before me
And I watch my old comrades how proudly they march
Renewing old dreams of past glory
And the old men march slowly all bent stiff and sore
The forgotten heroes from a forgotten war
And the young people ask "What are they marching for?"
And I ask myself the same question.

And the band played Waltzing Matilda
And the old men answer to the call
But year after year their numbers get fewer
Some day no one will march there at all.

Waltzing Matilda
Waltzing Matilda
Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me
And their ghosts may be heard as you pass the Billabong
Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me.


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