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Spanish sea shanties

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Subject: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,Caliz07@aol.com
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:17 PM

If anyone knows of any Spanish Shanties songs from Spain or/and the Caribbean please email me at Caliz07@aol.com. Thank you


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:35 PM

Does The Golden Vanitie count, or would you rather ones where the Spanish aren't the Enemie?


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Padre
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:45 AM

Caliz07, there is a Spanish shanty (of sorts) in 'Admiral of the Ocean Sea' the biography of Christopher Columbus by Samuel Eliot Morison. I don't have the book here in front of me, but I bet it is in your local library.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Dead Horse
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 07:55 AM

Hows about
"In 1558 our armada it set sail
Then we sank to the bottom of the sea"

Got French sites by the dozen, but can't find a single Dago one.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Snuffy
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 09:22 AM

There's the Kipper's Hairdressing shanty "As we combed the Spanish mane"


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 11:01 AM

And "Farewell Spanish Ladies" offers a cameo appearance by the ladies of Spain....maybe under the Pope and all they didn't feel encouraged to make up jolly songs?

A


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:23 PM

Mars for Evermore?
JohnB


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:42 PM

I'm sure there are plenty of sea shanties in Spanish. All we have to do is do some serious looking. Of course, I'm handicapped by not having learned Spanish but I guess that now that I'm shooting my mouth off I'll have to try to dig some up from Hugill et al.

Hmmmm. None listed in Hugill's SONGS OF THE SEA. Maybe there aren't any!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Naemanson
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 02:44 PM

I've been looking for some for the last several years. My brother-in-law, who is Mexican, assures me there are some but he has yet to bring me any. Another friend, Jose Rubio, who is from Guatamala, told me he'd heard some but was also not forthcoming with the songs.

There may not be any.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 02:47 PM

Those in the threads here and in the DT are English or American sea songs that mention the Spanish, but are not Spanish. See thread 7339, Spanish ladies: Spanish Ladies Some discussion here.

For a very old (18th century) version of "The Spanish Lady's Love to an English Sailor," go to the Bodleian Library: Bodleian
Click on Browse/Search and enter part of the title. Look especially for Douce Ballads 3 (86a) for the copy printed by Dicey, London, 1736-1763, which is clean and readable.
I think there are other versions in the Bodleian as well. These old versions have not been posted here.

If you have some Spanish examples (in Spanish) please post for us.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 02:52 PM

Oops! have to enter ballads twice.: Bodleian Library


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 05:12 PM

Surely there must be some Spanish in some of the nonesense choruses. Not to mention Santy Anna, Rio Grande etc. cf John Kanaka two lie eh? Kanaky patois of French from New Caledonia.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:28 PM

Kanaka is Hawaiian for man. Also an adjective for manly. Kánaka means the people.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 08:00 PM

Come on, lads, let's hunt for the real stuff, not some gringo sailor's idea of what Spanish is. If I wanted to offer that kind of stuff it's available by the bushel-full: i.e., "Serafina", "Round the Bay of Mexico", and "Salt Petre Shanty".

No luck here at finding the real stiff.

We'z the Boat,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 08:11 PM

Saloma is the Spanish word for chantey. Spanish dictionaries that I have all equate shanty with shack.
Unfortunately, saloma is a rather common name as well so it is hard to find saloma=chantey in Google.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 09:17 PM

I vaguely remember Barry singing a chanty at Old Songs that he had picked up from a South American/Caribbean shanty group. Barry?


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 09:59 PM

Tried canto marinero and got a few poems but no chanteys.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Dead Horse
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 07:01 AM

I dont speak Spanish, but I found this music site that probably contains songs of the sea.
Whether they be shanties or no.
http://www.ingeb.org/cates.html


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Charley Noble
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 10:35 AM

Not a thing! Well, not a real thing; there's this song which loosely translated says "I am the boat, you sail in me, and I sail in you."

Charley Noble, who's still looking


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: Barb'ry
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 05:01 PM

Anyone had any luck finding Spanish shanties? I'm still looking too.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST
Date: 11 May 11 - 11:39 AM

I'm still looking and it's 2011,,,,,,,,I need 16th century Spanish shanties


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST,Dalillama
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 11:01 PM

I am looking for the same thing as the above poster- 16th century Spanish shanties, if anyone's found anything since then.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Mar 14 - 01:25 PM

Here is a Spanish song El novio de la muerte himno de la Legion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtRR3-xQWWQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtRR3-xQWWQ


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Mar 14 - 01:48 PM

Himno de la escuela Naval not a sea shanty but.. its related.. kinda.


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Subject: RE: Spanish sea shanties
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 15 - 09:38 PM

Joining the group trying to find 16th century Spanish shanties that might have been sung onboard ships.


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