BS: Fuel prices ?

Subject: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: diesel
Date: 29 Mar 03 - 10:06 PM

Hi
Just a quick question :

How much is fuel these days your area ?

Fuel (petrol) in Ireland at moment is averaging out at 0.90 éuro a litre (0.95 US Dollars or 0.61 pounds sterling)
Diesel fuel is about 5 or 6 cents cheaper.

This is up by about 10 cents a litre since this time last year

Thanks

Diesel..

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 29 Mar 03 - 11:41 PM

Fuel in Iowa, USA, is around 1.869 USD (1.736 éuro, 1.192 pounds sterling, 2.744 CAD) for a medium grade (89 octane) unleaded. In Iowa most medium grade fules contain 10% ethanol because ethanol is made from corn, our state's biggest agricultural product. The use of ethanol is subsidized by the state. In states without the ethanol and subsidy, a medium grade unleaded fuel will run ten to fifteen cents a gallon more.

There are approximately 3.785 litres in a U.S. gallon so 1.87 a gallon in Iowa compares to Ireland's 3.41 éuro for a U.S. gallon of petrol.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 12:22 AM

How many liters in a U.S. gallon? 3.something? I think an Imperial gallon in Canada is five U.S. quarts, so there are lots of things to consider in these prices. Here in Texas yesterday I bought unleaded for $1.529 for a gallon.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 12:23 AM

Ah--I see Mark did the math. I wasn't paying attention (and there were only two posts--whew! I guess I've been spending a little too much time in an unventilated room staining shelves!)

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: mouldy
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 01:42 AM

Here near E. Riding/N. Yorks border, my nearest station (Total) had unleaded at 79.9p/litre and diesel at 81.9p on Friday night. The day before I had filled up with unleaded petrol at another Total garage near Selby, and theirs was 80.9p/litre. Prices seem to fluctuate by a penny or so from day to day, and of course from area to area. I went past a station near Castleford on Thursday night, usually a fairly cheap place, that had both unleaded petrol and diesel at 82.9p/litre, and the old 4-star/LRP petrol at 78.9p/litre! The place up the road had unleaded at 81.9p and diesel at 82.9p. (I think it's 4.45 litres to the UK gallon, but maths was never my strong point).

Andrea

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: MarkS
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 09:58 AM

Here in South New Jersey regular unleaded sells for about $ 1.49 a gallon - and that is full serve (NJ does not allow self serve pumps).
Something about being close to the refinery and the pipeline end makes the prices here somewhat lower than in other areas.
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: GUEST,Schantieman - cookieless
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 10:03 AM

4.54 litres to the Imperial Gallon (8 Imperial Pints of 568ml, each weighing a pound and a quarter). Around 80p/litre in SW Lancs at the moment.

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Forum Lurker
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 10:53 AM

We had $1.46 a gallon in Minnesota two days ago, but it's back up to $1.53. In contrast to New Jersey, we have nothing but self-serve, both because we're very trusting and because it's too damn cold out. It would be too expensive to pay an attendant to pump gas for hours in sub-zero temps.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Amos
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 11:07 AM

In San Diego we're running about $2.15 a gtallon, which is truly outrageous.

I'm gonna invent a water-powered car. It's a dirty job, but someone has got to do it!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: NicoleC
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 01:28 PM

We had a little drop in prices yesterday, about 5 cents. On the drive from San Francisco to Sacramento last night it was pretty consistant at $2.05-$2.10 for regular unleaded. Diesel at about $1.89/gallon.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Gypsy
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 01:44 PM

Well, we are back up to 2.35 a gallon, self serve, here in the US northwest nowhere. Haven't checked diesel prices, the tractor still has plenty. But can't whine, when i see how high it is in Europe!
Oh yeah Amos, whatcha want is HYDROGEN power, yes?

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: diesel
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 02:16 PM

Thanks for that folks.

Not too much info on the European prices, The UK price seems about the worse (sorry to hear about that schantieman and mouldy), but it does make the Irish price that little bit softer to bear.

I can compare most european cars on fuel economy, is it worth even trying to go there in the States/Canada - how about anyone from Aus. ? or Asia... ?

Diesel

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 02:26 PM

Remember, what we pay for our petrol doesn't begin to cover the cost of the damage we do with it, one way and another.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: harvey andrews
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 03:06 PM

Whatever the cost i read yesterday that America uses 42% of the world's petrol/diesel per year with their gas guzzlers. You could help the rest of us out a lot there when it comes to global warming and pollution just by changing vehicle.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 03:14 PM

It doesn't help the pain when the money comes out of your pocket, but it is significant to remember, I think, that out of the $1.79 per gallon here in Indiana about 30 cents of it is taxes, not the fuel itself. And of course that's the taxes directly added to the cost of fuel, not counting taxes up the line, like income and property taxes on the producing, refining, and distribution companies, which inevitably get paid in the end by the consumer.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: kendall
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 03:18 PM

$1.61 in southern Maine. When I came through Virginia, it was $1.49.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 03:19 PM

I spent a wonderful holiday doing a house swap in Oregon in 2000. The local paper Oregonian had a piece at least once a week how the state had the highest gas prices in the USA. (Oregon does not have any state sales taxes).

Being used to UK prices we were gobsmacked at how little it cost to fill the tank.

Our American partners came back saying they would never ever complain about the price of gas again.

Dave
www.collectorsfolk.co.uk
www.holmfirthfestival.co.uk

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: delphinium
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 05:28 PM

There's a comparison of some world gasoline prices here - a bit out of date (Jan. 03) but it shows some of the differences. Just before the war our prices (southern Ontario) went up to about 10-20% higher than the Canadian price shown on that site, now they're back down to slightly higher. And of course there's LOTS of regional variation. Diesel used to be cheaper than gasoline, but now I think is slightly more here.

The prices shown for European countries are for "premium", N. American prices are for "regular" (why is this?) but even so, our prices are MUCH less than the rest of the world. I'm a believer that North American gas prices are way too low to support the burden that vehicle transport puts on our environment and infrastructure. Yes I drive a car, and no I don't like paying more at the pump, but I don't like dirty air either. And as the world gets smaller but its population gets larger, there are other reasons why we should be weaning ourselves off cheap energy.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 06:00 PM

$1.8499 for the cheapest, in Juneau, Alaska.

Amos, when you invent that water-powered car, take that extra step and invent one that is also friendly to salt-water. In coastal areas, think of the ease and convenience.

Same with fire fighting equipment. Just think, when those big air tankers scoop up more water to go back and dump another load on the burning forest, how much faster and cheaper it would be to get it directly from the ocean.

I"m not even kidding!

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Troll
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 09:34 PM

$1.72 and UP here in Florida. Saw a bumper sticker. "Stop whining. If you can afford to buy that SUV, you can afford to fill it up."

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Troll
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 09:42 PM

Amos, how about a car that runs on pee? When you took a trip with your family, you'd never need to stop for anything.
I can see it now;" Here honey, have another coke. The fuel guage looks a little low."

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 09:47 PM

$1.62 in Wes By God Ginny a lot cheaper than moonshine which has skyrocketed to $9.00 for a quart jar, but I'll pay the nine bucks if gas is the only alternative for a little Saturday night fun.

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 09:58 PM

Place the price of gasoline in terms of cost of living and the value of the dollar, and it is still cheaper than it was years ago. (American and Canadian- European gasoline can be up to twice as much).

Partly grain-fed gasoline (don't know the current percentage) is available in western Canada from Mohawk stations.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Ely
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 10:12 PM

I saw ranges from $1.46 to $1.56 a gallon for regular 87-octane here (Texas Gulf Coast) today. It's lowered about 5 cents just lately. Our gas doesn't seem to get that expensive here--I heard a lot of horror stories about cities in other parts of the country but ours never got that high (gee, I wonder why . . . ).

I'm all for the pee-powered car, especially if my brother's along for the ride. Dad and I can go for hours without stopping so we wouldn't be much help.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: diesel
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 11:33 PM

Thanks for the Link Delphinium,

Oh to be in the States for it's fuel prices with European cars for their consumption - and style (But that's a different topic)

rgds

Diesel

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Amos
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 11:56 PM

Obviously, hydrogen is the effective agent in water for energy transmission, but the point is that it is prohibitively complex right now to distribute hydrogen, and a snap to distribute water. So all we need to do is figure out the key to unleash the hydrogen from a tank full of water in a reasonably efficient manner and Bob's your uncle!

If we could do that, handling variants like salt- or urea-laden water should be a snap.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: diesel
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 12:28 AM

And just to think of the Oxygen by-products - a certain winner methinks !

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: JennyO
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 08:00 AM

I don't know how to compare our prices with yours, and these prices are in Australian dollars, but one thing I have always noticed is that on Tuesday or Wednesday, our prices jump suddenly by up to 20c per litre, then start to drop gradually till the next Tuesday or Wednesday, when the whole thing starts over again. As the prospect of war became more likely, the average price edged up to about 10-15c per litre more than it had ever been before - ranging from about 96c per litre for unleaded on a good day, up to $1.15 on a bad day.

Last week instead of the big jump, many garages did not put their prices up at all, in fact, prices have been dropping. I saw 92c per litre yesterday, and still dropping. Anyone else notice this new trend?

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 08:38 AM

Well it's a doddle to break water up into Hydrogen and Oxygen, just use electricity. But you can't get any energy out of it, at best you could get back the energy you used splitting up the water by combvining the Hydrogen and the Oxygen once again. Going round in circles

Of course, if you use solar power or so forth to give you that electricity, fair enough. But carting the water around doesn't really get you anywhere.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 01:27 PM

90 cents a litre in atlantic Canada. What is a liter of gas, a bic or a ronson ?

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: duuuude
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 04:33 PM

When a barrel of oil goes up in price, we see an immediate impact on the price at the pump. Ever notice how when the barrel prices go down, it takes some time to see those changes reflected at the pump?

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Troll
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 05:25 PM

Well, DUH!

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 10:07 AM

For those outside the U.S. (as well as some within) Prices vary greatly from state to state and even county to county. This is primarily due to taxes. Federal taxes are just a part. State and county taxes add a lot as well.

Add on to that what part of town you purchase gas in - the nicer the neighborhood, the higher the price. Of course, the poorer the neighborhood, the highter the price. And then, here in Orlando, we've got tourist prices and non-tourist prices.

Also, remember that the high cost of U.S. gas is tied more with the fact that we haven't recieved a drop of oil from Venezuela for months. It has little to do with the supply from the Mid East. Yet, our government has little interest in helping Venezuela solve their labor woes.

The sign I had in the back of my car was:

Osama thanks you for driving an SUV.

I am currently switching to a motor scooter that gets 75 mpg.

pax yall.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: bbc
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 08:21 PM

$1.79 a gallon US, 1 hr north of NYC, where I live; $1.69 a gallon 1 hr NE from there, where I work. Needless to say, I try to buy gas near work!

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 03:10 AM

Lowest I've seen in Brisbane in the last couple of days is 78.9 cents per litre. That's about 48 cents US. It was up to 97 cents last week.

There are 4.54 litres to the Imperial gallon, and 0.8333 Imperial gallons to the US gallon (I think).

Count that up on your fingers.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 03:29 AM

We had a thread this year This thread about running cars on cooking oil. Sales of which shot up dramatically in parts of South Wales until the taxman tried to get his share.
And we managed to make the thread musical!

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 11:00 AM

So Hrothgar, the prices are dropping up there too, are they? I got some yesterday for 88.9c per litre, but that is the cheapest it has been for a while. Then it did its usual trick of jumping up to 101.9 today in lots of places. Is Brisbane cheaper than Sydney as a rule?

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 07:25 PM

some folks in seattle have taken to using natural gas for their vehicles....I guess the local company has a direct pipeline to the bum of some odd fellow in Ohio.....

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 08:49 PM

saw fuel vary from $1.49 to $1.78 within two miles last weekend. I truly do not understand how one can sell it that much cheaper...or how the higher priced one stays open.

Many years ago I suffered..*grin*...thru gas wars where the issue was whether there would be a one cent or a two cent difference. Bought gas as cheap as 17.9 per gallon.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 08:59 PM

March 30 2003
Seattle area   : $1.73 US per US gallon
Vancouver BC    : 0.78 Can. per litre
Anchorage       : $1.78 US per US gallon

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Padre
Date: 03 Apr 03 - 09:05 AM

Bath County Virginia ---- $1.36.9/gallon

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: GUEST,bagpuss
Date: 03 Apr 03 - 09:28 AM

About 32p/litre...?

who needs fossil fuels?

Bagpuss

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 04 Apr 03 - 03:53 AM

In theory, Brisbane should be 8 cents a litre cheaper than other states because we have a state subsidy system at that rate. It doesn't really work, and sometime when you have an hour to spare I can give you a long lecture on the economics of it all.

I think usually we run out about 3 or 4 cents cheaper.

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Apr 03 - 11:11 AM

Hrothgar, it seems your petrol is more than 3 or 4 cents cheaper at the moment.

No doubt I'll see you at the National, but I'm sure there will be much better things to do with our time there, than to spend an hour or two talking about petrol prices! :-)

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Strupag
Date: 04 Apr 03 - 07:37 PM

I'm pretty sure that this one list that, sadly, I'll top.
Here in the Scottish highlands diesel costs between £0.83 to £0.88 per litre.
That works out at about £3.73 to £3.96 per gallon.
This is in a country which produces more oil than it needs.
Any higher bids?

Subject: RE: BS: Fuel prices ?
From: Troll
Date: 04 Apr 03 - 07:59 PM

Back about 1969, I remember selling a lot of gas at around $.20.9 give or take a penny. *sigh*

troll