BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: sed
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 09:22 AM

Some of this discussion (including the occasional hastily-hurled accusation) reminds me of what Alabama novelist, journalist and lecturer, William Bradford Huie, toward the end of his long life, used to tell his audiences at writer's conferences where he spoke(please forgive my inexcusable paraphrase; maybe you can find the real quote somewhere): "my grandmother taught me to find a few things to love and a few things to hate and to love and to hate them with all of my might, and so that's how I've lived, loving and hating."

We lifelong Southerners have an inexplainable love of our 'native soil' that persists in everything we do and in everything we believe and perceive. I 'know' the incredible problems in the AL/GA border area where I now live but it's my home. I 'own' part of it and I invest it these crazy climes every day. It will never be nivana but it will always be home.

Racism is a way of futilely trying to make order in a disordered world. And so is compassion. I prefer compassion. May we all trust Christ to judge the self-righteous for in time He surely will.

Steve Sedberry
Newell, Alabama

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: NicoleC
Date: 15 May 03 - 11:49 AM

Hear, hear, Kim!

I grew up in the south, and everytime some idiot starts droning on about how that's 'just the way it is' and people who don't live there just don't understand, I can tell you from first hand experience that's a load of BS.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: Kim C
Date: 15 May 03 - 11:41 AM

I've lived in the South all my life and frankly, I'm tired of being the Bad Guy, as if every other state in the freakin' Union is some kind of unconditionally welcoming Utopia.

My youth came after Civil Rights. I have always been around blacks, Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics, you name it. Nashville, TN has one of the fastest-growing Hispanic populations in the US, and THE largest percentage of Kurdish refugees in the country. The lovely new suburban subdivision behind my house is home to people of all nationalities - and I can't afford to buy a house there. So you tell me.

And maybe come down for a visit, and see for yourself.

Are there idiots here? Sure there are. Bet they live in your town, too.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: toadfrog
Date: 14 May 03 - 05:34 PM

I am mystified. Is this thread overrun by trolls, or is it really true that the South has not moved an inch forward in 50 years?

EJ's posts read like tounge-in-cheek stuff to me. Am I missing something? Is there some reason for all that indignation?

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,mfdvr
Date: 13 May 03 - 08:52 PM

Q...you have named the lost races. How 'bout Asteroids and Hemorroids (a lot of them heard from in this thread). With all the media attention given to the "whites only" prom:

Where does the NAACP and other black groups stand on this issue and has The Rev Jesse Jackson "flown in to negotiate" (if anybody cares). I may have missed something.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 13 May 03 - 06:17 PM

I think some exclusive groups such as Bushmanoid and Australoid were on the list.
DNA has fouled up some of this usage, I believe, but a forensic anthropologist is needed to give a current understanding to these terms.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,mfdvr
Date: 13 May 03 - 05:45 PM

I think that booger is asking how many races are recognized by the World Association For Race Recognition. The ones I remember:

1. Caucasoid
2. Mongoloid
3. Negroid
4.
5.
6.

The above are verified by Mr Webster in his dictionary. I'm not sure there are six. One of you edumacated genious types help me out.

AND if all these groups decide to have seperate proms, where would they have them?

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,satchel
Date: 12 May 03 - 08:08 PM

The point that Booger seems to have missed completely is that race only exists in the mind--in his case, in six places. I agree with "NicoleC." As for Booger's last question--we'll see.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,Shocked by EJ
Date: 12 May 03 - 04:01 PM

To EJ: A true lady or gentleman is gracious, courteous, and charitable in behavior and deed. One should always set a good example and extend a helping hand in assisting others achieve success; to the extent they are able to achieve it. One does wonder, however, at your background. Braggadocio is generally considered bad form and may indicate a lack of breeding. Tut tut.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,booger
Date: 11 May 03 - 06:57 PM

Most of the races are considered humans.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 10 May 03 - 10:26 PM

GUEST, Stachel said:

"...the idea of race is a social and historical construction, and NOT based on biology. Of course, there are biological variants, but these do not account for what defines a racial identity."

Exactly the same thing goes for gender, as opposed to sex.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: NicoleC
Date: 10 May 03 - 08:43 PM

Easy question, provieded we're talking about humans.

1.

The human race.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,booger
Date: 10 May 03 - 08:21 PM

How many of you recliner chair intellects can list the number of different races in the world: And what if they ALL lived in and wanted their own prom in Durham North Carolina (Look up the stats).

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

How 'bout you satchel, how smart ARE you...

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,satchel
Date: 10 May 03 - 12:41 PM

I suggest that rednecks and elitists alike take a look at the US constitution, especially the preamble, and the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. This is the LAW of the land--irrespective of "the way we've always done it around here" in either the North or the South

Regarding the previous dozen or so posts, read Ira Berlin's "Many Thousands Gone." Berlin convincingly shows how the idea of race is a social and historical construction, and NOT based on biology. Of course, there are biological variants, but these do not account for what defines a racial identity.

It's time to move beyond the ideas of 19th century social darwinism and examine the actual forces that cause our society to think the way it does...

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:59 PM

To Forum Lurker:

Impossible to achieve actual physical uniformity. Even those countries with so-called racial "purity," like Japan, have major differences in all sorts of human attributes.

But what is funny -- several years ago, when I was in Trinidad, I heard two men arguing over which is better, dull black skin or shiny black skin.

Ah, the human condition!

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,Forum Lurker
Date: 09 May 03 - 01:21 PM

transplant-To question 1, the same people who have always done so: the middle class. To question 2: no one. Designer drugs will trigger natural endorphins by that point.

pdc-I sincerely hope that we never achieve physical uniformity. This has nothing to do with ideology and everything with aesthetics. On the other hand, by the time it becomes a problem, cosmetic alteration will probably have advanced to the point where one's natural appearance will never see the light of day.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,transplant
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:25 PM

How scary. If the white is all bred out, who will work and provide programs and aide and housing? Who will buy crack? Perhaps by that time everything will be free. But if this all comes about your proms won't be a problem.

Next stop, Iceland

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:03 PM

To Guest, Transplant:

You said "I guess all you "mixers" (as someone earlier put it) will not be happy until we are the colour of Starbuck Latte with lots of cream."

1) There's nothing wrong with that.
2) There may well be a great deal right with that.
3) People like you will still argue about which shade of Starbuck Latte is better.
4) Within a thousand years or so, there's a good chance that the white race will disappear, be bred out.
5) So what?

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,Forum Lurker
Date: 09 May 03 - 10:58 AM

Not to mention eliminating recessive nasties like sickle-cell, Tay-Sachs, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: Tinker
Date: 09 May 03 - 10:38 AM

Don't worry Guest,Transplant, the rules of recessive genes means that you never really know what the combination will bring up. My youngest is almost blonde with barely a wave to his hair. The boy must've found every recessive the Mister and I both own.   My daughter has been "identified" by others as Italien, East Indian, Puetro Rican amd usually by folks who see her as "one of Us". Mixing up the gene pool can do some wonderful things...

Tinker

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:57 AM

This mixer, as you put it, is colour-blind in that instance and would wish it so on all of the human race. My cats are a model of this: orange, black with gold, striped gray, and toasty chocolate and they could care less at their differences.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,transplant
Date: 09 May 03 - 08:27 AM

Here's a real kick in the head. I guess all you "mixers" (as someone earlier put it) will not be happy until we are the colour of Starbuck Latte with lots of cream. Is this where we are heading?

US transplant from UK

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 08 May 03 - 10:47 PM

Hurray for you, Katlaughing. I have three -- count 'em, three -- grandsons of mixed race. They are more beautiful than either of the original races.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 May 03 - 10:08 PM

Well, I only meant that I could understand intellectually how someone else might see it that way, not that I could really understand it, coming from my background and point of view. I guess I should have clarified it a bit. Thanks, heric.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 08 May 03 - 07:27 PM

Don't be seduced by gentility, kat. Flame wars not required, but intellectually it falls flat as well. (I know your comment reflects a temporary lapse.)

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 May 03 - 06:09 PM

Again, the input is appreciated. Not an option for me to visit there for the near future. I am sure my ancestors would have understood, as one of them lost the Virginia plantation etc. through co-signing of a county employee's "note" which said employee did not satisfy thus leaving my great-great grandad to pay up. As well as my ancestors on the other side one of which was one of the early governors of the Carolinas having left his sugar plantation in Barbados for the mainland.

However, with best beloved son-in-law from Antigua and two of the most beautiful twin grandsons of mixed race, I can tell you I would have a hard time understanding any of it. Intellectually - yes; emotionally and ethically - no.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,transplant
Date: 08 May 03 - 06:08 PM

Q, sad to say. But I think you are saying that money can buy equality or at least the outward appearance of it. It seems like the poorer that the poor are, the less equal they are...even to each other.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 08 May 03 - 05:20 PM

Thread drift, Creole Jack, but I am living in Canada, and talking about the food in Lou'siana you make me jealous. Driving to Georgia from Texas one night (1965 approx.), we were stopped by a deputy (the car resembled one that had been stolen). It was getting late, and my wife mentioned that we were hungry. He directed us to a place down a side road, said it was the right night to go there, and wished us well. It was a Cajun juke joint with a sign on the door, Crab, 50 cents. The crab was served piled high on beer trays. With beer, it was excellent (and work taking the crab apart!) and it was fun watching the people, whole families. Talking to someone there, he said the blacks (euphemism) do it better down the road a bit (shrimp on the side or something), but you had to take it out, whites not welcome. I doubt that things have changed much, if the places are still there.
The best place for pork barbecue in Milledgeville (the town I talked about, above), I remember, was black. A sister-in-law says it still runs the same way. The whites buy take-out, but eat in their cars or take it home.
A lot is different in cities like Houston, where the well-to-do of both races go to the same places, often mixed at the same table- but much closer to the old ways in the poorer parts of town. One place in Houston only a southerner would like was an upscale seafood restaurant where the waiters were older, patrician-looking blacks. They did a beautiful, understated Uncle Tom routine, which was quietly enjoyed by both the whites and blacks eating there, but left northern visitors totally confused.

Tolerance is there, but social integration is still sometime in the future. The only way to learn about southern living is to experience it.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: CreoleJack
Date: 08 May 03 - 03:45 PM

katlaughing...
here is a suggestion from one who has been around the mulberry bush more than once. The most perfect two places in God's world to get the kind of insight and knowledge you seek are Selma, Alabama and Jackson, Mississippi. Both have seen upheavals in race relations since the Civil War. They have both been site of marches and demonstrations and lynchings and the whole racial free-for-all. Integration is far from achieved in both areas. The schools are desegregated but the division is a straight and narrow line. People here segregate themselves because that is the best way for them to live. Confederate flags fly plentiful and proudly. PLUS now there are latinos and a sprinkling of asians mixed into the fray. You want to learn first hand? Spend a month in this part of the world, visit the newspaper, clerks of court, pull up old court records and talk to the folks who live there. I can assure you, you will learn all that you care to. A picture IS worth a thousand words. The story is all in their eyes.

Q...you have to wait for summer? Come on down to the bayou country where something bites everyday. Bet that raises a few questions. And of course (goes without saying) the finest cooking there is.
Living on the edge of a swamp in a trailer with no A/C and no screens on the doors and windows...well, think about it.

Jack

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 May 03 - 02:31 PM

I can see i have some more research and reading to do. I appreciate the further info, Q, but I still would like to see some actual cites for what you and others have said.

I think it is safe to say that IF there wasn't much violence, it was mostly because "black folks" knew their place, much as during the times of slavery, and everthing went well as long as they didn't forget and step out of line. That hardly seems a time to be nostalgic over, imo.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 08 May 03 - 02:04 PM

Creole Jack, go above the line sometime. Not all of those who hang around here are bottom-feeders, but for retired oldsters like me it is more entertaining than television. Come summer, some of us will do some real trolling.
(Also relief from a boring job in a cubicled office?)

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: CreoleJack
Date: 08 May 03 - 09:53 AM

Well, thank you for the complete definition. If I understand it and I think I do, lots of you folks spend a lot of your time trolling each other and baiting everyone who has an opinion. It IS your time.

cattin' around and Q make valid points about race relations during prewarII and postwarII. Seems like I have a few kin in little towns in Georgia, Alto and Cornelia, and seems like they told me that signs were posted in the 20's and 30's warning a certain group of people "not to be caught in town after sundown". Fortunately times have changed but sentiments still runs deep in these areas. People who do not live in these areas of the south only know what they read.
So be tolerant when residents describe the history and present of the areas they live in. They know better than you. I think I am going to enjoy dropping in on these bouts every once in a while. Bet the same people will be here. Ciao, Jack (Gawd, I do hope I spelled that right.)

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 07 May 03 - 07:16 PM

Kat, cattin' around describes the situation as it was pre-WW2. Agreed, segregation meant that only the white population had power, education, and access to better education; it was not right but that was the way it was. There was almost no crime. The races did not meet socially except in carefully orchestrated occasions. The old capitol of Georgia was in the the town of Milledgeville, a town whose culture I know (although never completely at home there because I was from outside). Before WW2 it was exactly as he said. The public school was blacks only. White girls went to a school run by Georgia State Women's College. White boys went to the Georgia Military College.
There were a few whites in town who sometimes caused trouble and talked KKK, (referred to as mill-hands or poor white trash) but their actions were carefully monitored by the majority of the citizens.
When the system collapsed after the War, as it was bound to do, the situation became ugly. We all know that it took quite a few years before an uneasy balance was found. It will take at least another generation before the type of integration found in larger cities of the north is attained.

There was no violence in the small towns like Milledgeville, where protests by the black citizens were restrained, as was the response by the white citizens. Both groups were careful not to step on each others toes. After the war, the situation with regard to schools changed but little, since the white schools were not public in the true sense of the word. Some integration of the public schools occurred, but the educated white people kept their children in private schools. As a result, only children of disadvantaged whites were integrated with the blacks, which caused deterioration of education for the blacks.
Reasonable schooling for blacks in the small towns is now available, but funds are not available through taxes to pay for schooling equal to that obtained by white children in the private schools, or, now, exclusive areas. The equal but unequal situation found in many areas throughout the United States (and Canada).
Chiefs of police, some mayors, many police and city and county officials are often black in areas with high black voter bases. Pressures by affluent, educated blacks has obtained reasonable schooling for their children- who at higher levels now attend the same schools as the whites, unless they prefer a college that remains essentially black. The system is working, but time is still needed before full equality of opportunity is attained.

Lots of words. I don't pretend to have the answers, but I see much progress, especially now that outside agitators have been long gone (yes, they were needed in the Evers-King days but those days are past), and reasonable jobs and education are available for those formerly considered white trash. This latter fact has resulted in the almost complete disappearance of racial violence.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 May 03 - 06:27 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: CreoleJack
Date: 07 May 03 - 06:15 PM

Hi yall, I'm a new 'catter from the bayou country of Loos-ana. I been reading all this scrapping about segregated proms for the kids.
We still have them in parts of the bayou because thats the way folks want it period. I agree with cattin' around about the problems caused by segregation of the schools. Especially down here people don't take good to forced changes. Some groups of folks are dumber than stumps. We fought the new laws longer than most but we lost anyways. So I will ask, what is meant by trolling? Jack

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,cattin' around
Date: 07 May 03 - 05:24 PM

It does where I live. Now, about the term troll...

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 May 03 - 05:07 PM

Show some proof, history does not bear you out.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,cattin' around
Date: 07 May 03 - 04:27 PM

I meant what I said...we didn't bother them and they didn't bother us. No KKK, no lynchings (you mispelled it), no fights, no trouble, no fantasy world. We had peaceful co-existence and were content and were more civil to each other then than we are now. The blacks fought integration in the schools harder than the whites. I think they had more intelligence then than our pitiful elected officials. They knew what would happen down the road. AND, it has happened.

I DO NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD TROLL AS YOU USE IT. If you don't want to let me in on your thread secrets, screw you and your kind.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 May 03 - 02:50 PM

Well, even though I think YOU are a troll and know very well what it means, you've created another fantasy world and are calling it truth, so...

We didn't bother them and they didn't bother us.

I guess that means the KKK, lynchngs, etc. were all fabricated and we've all been taught lies about the civil rights movement, then...uh-huh, right.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST,cattin' around
Date: 07 May 03 - 01:58 PM

Well, this has really turned into quite a shootout.

First, someone in authority please explain TROLL and TROLLING. I am kinda in the dark on this.

Second, I grew up and went to a totally segregated school in central North Carolina in the 40's and 50's. We never had a serious problem with the only other "race" in the county. We went to our school and they went to theirs. We had our dances and socials and they had theirs. We didn't bother them and they didn't bother us. The strongest drug around was pot on occasion, now the schools are eatup with all kinds of killers. I never really saw that we had problems by being segregated. There was a strict dividing line and no one crossed it. That was the way that it was. Until politicians from "UP NAWTH" decided that us redneck whites and "the coloreds" be brought together for our own mutual good. To make a long story short, the black school was torn down, and a few years later the former white school, which was at one time a great place, looked just like the school that was torn down. We didn't blame this on anyone except the one who forced us together.
Dances weren't allowed because of fear of violence which did not exist before we were forced to integrate. Some things are best left alone.

Third, I have read this "thread" carefully and am convinced that some of you have entirely too much free time to worry about other folks. Some of you are downright scary! Intellecuals such as Big Mick surely must have better things to do than to want to "debate" everyone about everything. Then there is EJ, a wealthy "plantation" owner who surely has better ways to spend his time than to talk about his wealth and power. Then there are some of you so unsure of your existence that you spend your life defending yourself form comments made by others. Who gives a big hairy rat's butt? Think about it.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: Kim C
Date: 07 May 03 - 01:35 PM

Oh. I thought he said, the sheriff is near...

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 May 03 - 01:13 PM

This is my last post on this one, so listen up. Here are a couple of things I figured out very early in this thread.

First off, EJ isn't what he says he is. He is most likely a person with severe personality issues which he blames on race. He spends a great deal of time in front of a computer screen, with multiple screen names, and trolls because it makes him feel as if he is in control.

I chose to challenge him, because he pulls off his persona very well, and the issue is very much worth discussion.

I challenged him to say who he was talking about and demonstrate why they had no value because he was using code to speak about people of color. You notice that he never did respond.

The issue of my "friends" is very simple and I am surprised that some of you didn't get it. First off, they are my friends. Second off, I was demonstrating that my friends were common and decent folk and that they have more value than all the cliques in existence. Folks with an elitist and conspiratorial view of the world don't realize that it isn't about some elite group. In the end the world goes round based on decent people trying to do the right thing.

OK, troll brigade, the thread is all yours.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: Peg
Date: 07 May 03 - 12:51 PM

oops!
My keyboard stopped working just then....

just to finish up..



--huh? Gee, is *that* why I didn't get ito Cornell, because I dated a black guy in high school?
I did not date him because I hated my family; I dated him because I liked him. It did not really occur to me they'd be so vehemently opposed to the idea, but I suppose I should have known better. My friends questioned the decision, too, and some of my teachers looked askance at me in the hallways. Weird because I was an honor student and an officer in a lot of clubs, etc. And of course there were terrible rumors that I must be "loose", etc. (though I was not).


This is not TROLLING!

--*snort* yeah right!

Just curious, how did you end up (no pun intended) and who with...

--I don't really know what you're asking here but in any case it's none of your business...

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: Peg
Date: 07 May 03 - 12:43 PM

not sure why I am responding to an anonymous troll but what the hell..

Yo Daddy wrote:

Peg, if all your post is true then you are one mixed up girl. As screwed up as a football bat.

--I am??? How so?? I am no longer a "girl" by the way...

Did you grow up defiant as lots of those of you north of the Virginia border do?

--well, there's a generalization if I have ever heard one. Not sure if I quite understand what it means.

Did you hate your family enough to drive you to "mix it up" (sounds like you did it more than once) with those other than Italians (who usually are very close and protective of children)?

--Every teenager hates their parents at some point in their adolescence. I think by "mix it up" you mean did I date someone outside my ethnic group and you already know the answer.
My experience of Italian family behavior is not so much the protectivity issue but that they can be very racist. My grandmother was disowned by her family for marrying a Sicilian! (She was Northern Italian) So it strikes that within this culture there is some very inherent racial/ethnic prejudice...not across the board certainly but enough that stereotyping in this way would not be entirely inappropriate...


Decisions made in youth stick with us. Memories stay close at hand. Watch yourself girl, you may close doors that never open again.

--huh? Gee, is *that* why I didn't geti

This is not TROLLING!

Just curious, how did you end up (no pun intended) and who with...

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 07 May 03 - 12:36 PM

and Kansas City faggots!

(Yo'Daddy, Peg's life is cinematic in scope.)

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: NicoleC
Date: 07 May 03 - 12:18 PM



You're right, Doug. Ultimately adults are reponsible for how the next generation turns out. But prejudice is like a virus, and it gets passed around. Even the world's most careful and well-meaning parents have to compete with TV, music and their kid's friends -- which may not have the same quality of careful parents. I could see the idea of a segregated prom coming from the students, but only becuase by the time kids get to the prom, they've already been exposed to the virus. A lot.

And his father was the sheriff.

Must resist lame joke... no, can't resist!

A black sheriff?!

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: Kim C
Date: 07 May 03 - 11:43 AM

I apologize, Carol, I was not very clear. Apparently they have had them in the past - I imagine they probably will again. The whole thing is silly. Yes, I do live in Tennessee, and this was never an issue with any school functions I ever attended, and yes, I went to public school. And yes, we were a very mixed bunch.

I'm sort of curious to know what they think are the "problems" with interracial dating.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: CarolC
Date: 07 May 03 - 11:39 AM

...and thank you ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 07 May 03 - 11:20 AM

The question was: "Just suppose ...a stretch I admit ...but suppose anyway, that it was the Black students who insisted on an all Black Prom, and no White students allowed. Would everyone be as equally exercised about that?

DougR "

We know that last year and this year black students organized mixed race proms, even though this year there was to be a whites only private prom.

We know that before two years ago, there were white and black proms, but we don't know who insisted on the separation. You're welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: How sad - whites only prom in Georgia
From: CarolC
Date: 07 May 03 - 11:18 AM

I misunderstood you Kim. I thought you were saying that they are now holding separate proms.