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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 09:01 AM

90 degrees from everything!

Hyperdimensional dementia!

All directions are new directions, and
All directions are the same direction!

Little Bo-Peep has lost her sheep
And doesn't know where to find them.
But they'll all, face-to-face,
Meet in parallel space
Preceeding their leaders behind them.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 11:32 AM

I think Mary's style of poshtel is kinda widdershins sometimes. But I love her anyway!!

Widdershins is an interesting notion -- it has been adopted by those who have modernized witchery as a term meaning "counter-clockwise" (as in general useage) but also specifically meaning movements counterclockwise as part of negative magick; at least, apparently in the northern hemisphere. South of the Equator, according to some, the spiral vectors reverse, and widdershins is for positive spells.
Don't ask me why -- when folks start electing mysteries to be mysterious about, there's no rhyme or reason that guides them, nor do they want any.

Speaking of which here's a good direction for BS -- the random collections of Mystery Totems elected by various groups. I know one guy who is quite sure he can tell all about you by starting with a scheme of numbers he maps to the letters in your name, and convoluting from there out. Others get excited to discover that the number of needles on a pinebud is EXACTLY the same as the number of major deities in the Athenian hierarchy circa 400 BC; AND the same number as the number of virgins required to dance on the first crop of olives in Rome almost 500 years later. Coincidence?? I think NOT!

Go figger...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 01:34 PM

90 degrees from widdershins!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 02:30 PM

I'm so glad no one decided to take me up on the idea of talking about sex. What a tired old idea to begin with. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 02:32 PM

90 degrees to sex! 90 degress to tired old ideas!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 02:49 PM

This sounds like topical precession to me, SRS...no matter how much torque you apply, the spinning system eventually restabilizes back on the same ole plane. It's as if is the strange attractor to which all chaotic serieses of conversations are eventually fated to steer. Don't ask me why. I might answer ya!! :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 05:28 PM

90 degrees to topical precessation!

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,        
And sorry I could not travel both        
And be one traveler, long I stood        
And looked down eadh as far as I could        
And plowed straight ahead on into the brush.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 05:52 PM

Topical precession is better than a tropical depression, even though they're both just hot air going round in a circle...

And we missed at least one important direction: Back the way you came!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 09:16 PM

90 degrees to topical precessation!

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,      
And sorry I could not travel both      
And be one traveler, long I stood      
And looked down eadh as far as I could      
And plowed straight ahead on into the brush.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 09:42 PM

90 degrees to sex! 90 degress to tired old ideas!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 09:51 PM

90 degrees from widdershins!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:43 AM

90 degrees describes the high temperatures here all week. But we are assured that fall will arrive this weekend. It'll drop to 80.

I had the pleasure this evening of visiting with an old friend at the Friends of the Libraries meeting. We met nearly a dozen years ago when we were both attending the Fort Worth Writers Group, and she is one of several folks who have gone on to write commercially viable books. She was this evening's speaker, and her topic--haunted graveyards. Something she became expert on after a publisher rejected one book she submitted but asked if she'd write one on ghosts instead.

Lots of interesting and very spooky stories were shared by folks during the book signing and reception afterwards. And one of the archivists from Special Collections was a bit unnerved because every time she had to run back to her office the light had been tampered with. Was off when she left it on, and on when she left it off.

Whhoooooo . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:20 AM

I shall stop my backwards trend momentarily and move sideways.

An attorney told me that the County Courthouse here is haunted. In 1976 a clerk was gunned down there by an angry citizen -- the shooter was caught immediately and convicted, the reason was that the shooter didn't think he'd been treated with "respect."

The dead woman, a long-time employee, is said by the janitor to still be around. Lights are turned on at odd hours; the janitor has seen them go on as he steps into a unlit corridor, sort of like "here, I'll help you out." Lights left on by mistake in various offices are also turned off -- he says he's seen that, too.

And now, back to living backwards.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 11:04 AM

There was a "ghost cam" set up in a Snohomish County library a couple of years ago, but I don't find a link to it now. Here is a site with a few library ghosts when I searched on "Snohomish library ghost cam" and here is a Google search on "library ghost cam."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 05:15 PM

Yes, the Williard Library ghost is quite famous among bibliotechal cognoscentii. Or at least among such in Indiana.

If you've every had to "overnight" in an old library....

During my early undergrad years, the library was in a wing of the college that included, above the library, a performance hall. The hall was one of those wonderful old kind with a barrel-vaulted ceiling, and the acoustics were so good that the music department tuned there even though the hall itself hadn't been used for 50 years or more. We'd hear them doing this from time to time.

One night, my friend Peggy was working late and heard cello music. Since it was nearing midnight, she went up the back stairs to see who was there. When she opened the door to the stage, the lights went out and the music stopped. Her flashlight showed no one, and no disturbance of the dust on the stage surface.

The old wing is gone now, torn down.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 06:21 PM

Good story!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:16 PM

More than that -- true story.

And then there are the theaters....

Ft. Carson, Colorado, December, 1968. We were painting set for a production of You Can't Take It With You, and it was getting on towards 2:30 a.m. Five or six of us were taking a break, drinking some coffee and trying to decide whether to finish it or forget it for the night, when two MPs (Military Policemen) appeared in the theater entrance.

We called to them, offerin them coffee, but they just looked around and left.

No big deal; heck, I was with an MP company at the time.

Then it struck us: these two guys were wearing short-sleeved summer khaki uniforms. In December. In Colorado.

More, their uniforms were of the Korean War era.

Go figure....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,freds
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:35 PM

It has two heads. Two heads. Because of the dioxyribonucleic acid from the entity called "Rapaire."

This is not good. Not good at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 11:03 PM

It's the wrong time of year to try to do any human studies or captures, freds. You're getting false positives in your readings because of the extra clothing. Go away for a few months and you'll see what I mean. Trust me. . .I wouldn't steer you wrong on this.

;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 12:07 AM

Drove by one of those self-storage places this morning. Wondered how they make any money. I mean, if you store your self, then who's gonna work to make the money to pay the monthly rental on the storage unit? And once the unit's rent gets a couple of months behind, will they auction your self off to the highest bidder? Maybe instead of trying all kinds of drugs and religions and self-help books in attempts to find oneself, it'd be easier to just wait until the self-storage place holds an auction and buy a self real cheaply.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:16 AM

You must have misread the sign. Those are shelf storage places. I've used them and they are full of shelves, all nicely stacked up and in storage for when you might need a shelf. True, you could store yourself on one of the shelves, and that would be a self shelf storage place.

Come to think of it, I know a lady named Sheri who owns one, but it's pretty messy. It's called "Sheri's Self Shelf Slop Emporium." Very few people ever reach the last word.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:52 AM

I decided that self-storage was a waste of money so when I built my garage I built a storage area upstairs. You can't quite stand up but there's lots of room for self-storing stuff. I've charged myself to keep all of my storage here at the house.

One of these years I'm going to build a full second story up there and then I may lose some of my storage. I'll have a bigger room to collect stuff that needs storage.

There seems to be a loop here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 11:26 AM

We had a 8 x 12 x 12 shed when we moved here. We gave it to the Girl Scouts.

Moving twice in three years, we've cut down on a lot of stuff. Still...we have six sewing machines (if you include treadle), and other things, like tools I haven't used yet.

But these were conscious decisions to keep or acquire. Unlike our neighbors, we don't acquire just to acquire. If we did, we have three or four cars & SUVs, a couple jet skis, a couple dirt bikes, an RV that costs more than the house, a speedboat, a couple ATVs, and a golf cart. I wish I were kidding about the list, but it's what the folks immediately east of us have....

We're thinking about getting a smaller shed, mostly for the snowblower and the lawnmower and such. (Yes, we really do need the snowblower!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 11:30 AM

Actually, a lot of people follow SRS's wisdom in this, and build their own Self-storage environments. The outside looks pretty much like an ordinary humanoid bipedal, complete with nose hairs and earwax for effect.

But once you get inside, the landscape transforms, and each one has its own renegade architecture, its own libraries, and runs a different variant of power supply, has idiosyncratic lighting and weather, and varying degrees of trash and landscaping. This myriad and eclectic architecture of the interior of the Individual Self Storage environment is one of the most interesting things about our species.

The trouble is, of course, that many people get so involved with their self-storage plans and designs that they get quite adverse to letting their Selves out of storage, and thus deny themselves wonderful opportunities to gain new ideas and adventures. Sigh....

Does anyone know where I can get some Pummel Stones left over from some ancient emotional vulcanism? I think I have just the place for them...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 11:55 AM

What's a snowblower? Sounds like something off-color, like a topless dancer for a geriatric society or something...

A_in_the_rain_in_San_Diego


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM

Prepare for the inevitability of complete and total Shatnerization. Coming your way. Resistance is futile.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 12:11 PM

9772! Ha! Got it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 01:30 PM

Resistance may be futile, old friend, but I assure you it is inevitable!! :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 01:47 PM

Resistance is futile, but close to being fertile as well...

Now, what is the offspring of resistance?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 03:58 PM

The offspring of resistance.... Voltage? Current? Ohm's Law?

Oh, I forgot. You can't go Ohm again....

"Keep the Ohm fires burning...."

"Ohm, Sweet Ohm."

"Ohm on the Range" (a song about electric stoves).

"Ohm is Where the Heart Is."

Ah, moral dilemmas! Shall I stop, or shall I abandon all restraint? Resistance, he said, is futile. But then, can I keep these puns current? Perhaps I could put up an Ohm page on the web....

Ah, if on V did not = IR.... Ou sont les neiges d'antan?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:06 PM

Actually, I guess that should be "Ohm is where the heat is."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:56 PM

Today I decided to take a look inside that storage space I'd built. I found I was saving stuff I didn't need--imagine that! Up in the rafters I found the boxes and styrofoam for the computer and printer and scanner that were stolen last February. Now all of the boxes are flattened in the back of the pickup and will be dropped in a recycle bin for cardboard in the morning. The styrofoam is in bags out at the curb.

Since it is a chilly rain tonight and since I don't have the house dog-proofed yet I opted to clean out the garage and turn a futon frame that had stood on its side into a glamorous dog bed. With it in the couch position I put the padded dog beds on the wood frame since I no longer have the mattress that came with it (should have kept it, but let folks talk me into dumping it. I probably never would use it but for sitting on, which is how dad used it, so what does it matter if it would be lumpy to sleep on?). I moved boxes, stacked, shifted, and even moved my Park Ranger stetson boxes (put them up in the aforementioned storage) to clear space for the truck (it WAS getting a little tight to pull in) and ample room for the dogs to move around. I guess I can leave the side door open if I have two dogs sleeping in the space. A pit bull and a catahoula mix--lots of noise from those two will scare off any erstwhile burglars!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 07:46 AM

You could name one of them Jesus. The pit bull.

Then get a parrot who can learn to say "Jesus is watching you...."

Surefire remedy for burglars.

I think a lot of people find themselves discovering, on looking in to their Self storage, that they have a lot of stuff there they don't need. It's sometimes a lot harder to rearrange than the physical storage areas are.

Why is that?



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 08:59 AM

Lukey was at Clancy Yancy's bar last night and figgered that he needed some way to "redishcover" himself. He went upstairs with Boom-Boom Betty and a quart of Real Old Monongehela Rye Wisky (the spelling is correct; the stuff is distilled in Corn Creek and hasn't ever been near Pennsylvania) -- the stuff they call "Frisky Wisky" around here. Lukey and Boom-Boom were flagranto delicto and pretty active when the floor gave way. They crashed through to the basement of Clancy's joint and the waterbed busted like a giant water balloon. Wiped out Clancy's setup for bringing beer up the bar, flooded the tortilla chips in storage, and managed to force more water into the floor drains than they could take, with th result that all the toilets fired a geyser at the ceiling. Took Sagebrush Sammy by surprise; he'd just set down for a "spell of readin' the pages from the Sears catalog." By the time the fire department got there with pumps and rescue equipment everyone was pretty soggy, Boom-Boom was beating Kiss drum solos on the right side Lukey's head with a piece of rebar, and Lukey's wife was pounding out Gene Krupa on the left side with a cast iron skillet, and they were both comparin' notes about Lukey's short comings. Clancy Yancy was talkin' to his lawyer and pointin' at Lukey, and the regulars were lookin' for tar and feathers.

Lukey had a beatific look on his face, and it wasn't brought about by the head hammering. We figgered that he'd either found hisself or that maybe he was still under the influence of the frisky wisky, one or the other.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 11:58 AM

There are ways to offload some of the excess Self-storage baggage in a hurry. I found cancer to be a way to streamline things for a while. It's gone, but the reminder is still there in the form of a few scars.

Nothing like those sported by bludgeoned Lukey, however.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 04:06 PM

Maybe others prefer a Sagittarius approach to garage management?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:07 PM

You're going to shoot your stuff full of arrows?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 10:08 PM

No, I was being flip. And after thinking about it for about 20 seconds, I conclude that the appropriate sign for this thread is Taurus. I was thinking of a ram when I first posted, but came up with the name Sagittarius instead of Aries (see how much time I spend reading the horridscopes). Head butting, voraciously devouring any topic (a goat-like appetite). About 10 seconds into that 20 seconds (isn't Google fast!) I realized it should have been Aries, or maybe Capricorn, whatever the heck a "sea-goat" is. Is that supposed to be "she-goat"? Anyway, appetite aside, the end result is pure unadulterated BS, so it must be Taurus.

Now, where was I? Storage? I haven't suffered any slings and arrows (eros, either, darnit!) regarding the stuff in my garage, but there is too much of it. So I'll be doing a garage sale one of these days. I have to fix the weedwhacker first. It needs a new starter cord. That's probably my high dollar item in the sale, so I want it in working order. Can't get anything for broken stuff--even BS won't rescue you from that one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 10:38 PM

I've always wanted to take all the books that haven't sold at the last four or five Friends' booksales and burn them. In public. After inviting the Intellectual Freedom people to a weenie roast.

So far I've been talked out of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 08:10 AM

I think there are a number of books that would do well to be burned, but it is against my principles to suhhest it!

Here's some good news:


THE CAR THAT MAKES ITS OWN FUEL, October 24
A unique system that can produce Hydrogen inside a car using common metals such as Magnesium and Aluminum was developed by an Israeli company. The system solves all of the obstacles associated with the manufacturing, transporting and storing of hydrogen to be used in cars. When it becomes commercial in a few years time, the system will be incorporated into cars that will cost about the same as existing conventional cars to run, and will be completely emission free.
Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news7499.html

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 09:04 AM

Well, mostly I want to tweak some of the more rabid intellectual freedom types.

Now, I donated some stuff to the auction the Idaho Library Association recently held -- pairs of the "original" and the "deluxe" library action figurine from Archie McPhee, held together with a genuine rubber band that had been used in a genuine library, and each figurine personally autographed by Nancy Pearl herself. Seven sets, $90 per set, and the money going to a good cause.

But there are some....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 11:34 AM

Isn't the quote ( by some German poet, not sure which one)
" Where one burns books, one will evenually burn people"

However, if you're burning books for entertainment, not dogma, it should probably be altered slightly to " Where one burns books, one will eventually have a hog roast", which frankly sounds a much better idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 01:30 PM

Danielle Steel's collected works could go up in a huge bonfire--considering the number she has written and published the fire would be seen from space--and I'd be happy to dance around it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 01:38 PM

skyclad?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 03:19 PM

When I was a member of the Vietnam Veterans of America, I got a newsletter which included reviews of books about the Vietnam war. One book so reviewed was "Nam" by Danielle Steel.

I wish I had the review, but it went something like "I receive many books about the War, some good and some bad, but never has one reached such depths of badness as this one.... Apparently the author learned a few words and phrases, such as 'AK-47 and 'fragging' and has built a book around them.... I was glad to finish it...." and so on.

The review couldn't have made the author happy, but I suspect that as long as she got the checks she didn't care.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 04:37 PM

Mebbe we oughta talk Steve Ballmer into starting a charity foundation called "Chex for Chix" which would pay her not to write any more books and to sniff out similar paeans of feminine mediocrity and pay their authors not to do anything with them. Drive yon Harlequin and suchlike right out of business.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 08:22 PM

Heck, I'd write a romance just to get the check to stop me from writing more.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 12:34 PM

I dabbled with the idea years ago when I was starting out as a writer. Use a nom de plume to preserve my good name for the serious stuff. There are some decent authors who got their starts in those romance series, but they usually move on away from the series and their books take on more substance. The trouble with writing for a series like those is that you have to be able to stand reading most of their current stories to get the style and content down, and most of them are pretty darned stupid.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 02:01 PM

"She saw him striding across the forsaken beach in the dappling sunset light as though he owned the whole island; despite his worn trousers and broken sandals, he carried himself as a royal scion might while visiting his holdings, with a look of intelligent and superior tranquility. His bronzed skin barely hid the muscles rippling beneath them, and his gray eyes had a distant, cloud-borne look that spoke of hours racing before the winds of the Spanish Main.

Her interested inventory of his attributes was suddenly interrupted by a strange sensation; her heart had climbed into her throat, and she could feel a flush rising along her pale, high cheeks and suffusing her lovelyy features. Never, in all her eighteen years, had she felt such a sensation; she stood still, overcome with a mixture of emotion and physical desire that seemed to have amind of its own....."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 03:46 PM

Have you read any D.H. Lawrence? One could argue that the overblown prose isn't just the domain of serial romance novels (though some would argue that Lawrence wrote just such novels himself).

So many women have "inchoate" eyes. But men also.

    Any presence but that of the nurses was a strain and an effort to him now. Every morning Gerald went into the room, hoping to find his father passed away at last. Yet always he saw the same transparent face, the same dread dark hair on the waxen forehead, and the awful, inchoate dark eyes, which seemed to be decomposing into formless darkness, having only a tiny grain of vision within them.

    And always, as the dark, inchoate eyes turned to him, there passed through Gerald's bowels a burning stroke of revolt, that seemed to resound through his whole being, threatening to break his mind with its clangour, and making him mad.


Chapter 24, Women In Love.

Or from chapter six, same book:

    'You see he MADE me go and live with him, when I didn't want to,' she replied. 'He came and cried to me, tears, you never saw so many, saying HE COULDN'T bear it unless I went back to him. And he wouldn't go away, he would have stayed for ever. He made me go back. Then every time he behaves in this fashion. And now I'm going to have a baby, he wants to give me a hundred pounds and send me into the country, so that he would never see me nor hear of me again. But I'm not going to do it, after -- '

    A queer look came over Gerald's face.

    'Are you going to have a child?' he asked incredulous. It seemed, to look at her, impossible, she was so young and so far in spirit from any child-bearing.

    She looked full into his face, and her dark, inchoate eyes had now a furtive look, and a look of a knowledge of evil, dark and indomitable. A flame ran secretly to his heart.

    'Yes,' she said. 'Isn't it beastly?'

    'Don't you want it?' he asked.

    'I don't,' she replied emphatically.

    'But -- ' he said, 'how long have you known?'

    'Ten weeks,' she said.

    All the time she kept her dark, inchoate eyes full upon him. He remained silent, thinking. Then, switching off and becoming cold, he asked, in a voice full of considerate kindness:

    'Is there anything we can eat here? Is there anything you would like?'

    'Yes,' she said, 'I should adore some oysters.'

    'All right,' he said. 'We'll have oysters.' And he beckoned to the waiter.


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