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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Acme 14 Jan 13 - 01:39 AM
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Amos 14 Jan 13 - 10:05 AM
Little Hawk 14 Jan 13 - 11:13 AM
Amos 14 Jan 13 - 07:19 PM
Little Hawk 14 Jan 13 - 07:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 01:39 AM

There's a Java update so I'll update and re-enable it on my browsers. Is that good enough?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 08:43 AM

Good News!!!

I'm in DC, advising Obama on the coming four years and he says he'll act on my suggestions!

How's THAT for good news, Amos?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 10:05 AM

Wow--I guess we should add 20% to compensate for subjective errors...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 11:13 AM

Hmmm. Well, Rap, that means things are either going to get better...

Or they're going to get one hell of a lot worse!

Either way, you can take the credit for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 07:19 PM

I other news I have decided to turn my back on the long-nosed gelid wraiths of the high-falutin Forest of Agentry, and submit no more to their antediluvian conceits. I am heading to Smashwords to make my way in the new Frontier of self-generated publication.

Wish me luck.   I am fitting out my wagon with powder, shovel, rifle and bacon sides and will soon be crossing the dread alkali deserts as an Unknown Pioneer. My oxen are ready, my harness is trimmed and taut, my stirrups are jangling and so on.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 07:24 PM

Was that an extremely verbose way of saying, "I'm going into vanity publishing."? Or have I misinterpreted your meaning? In any case, I do wish you luck. Watch out for rattlers, Gila Monsters, and hostile tribesmen along the way. If you should run into a fast-talking fellow with a pencil-thin mustache and bottles of "Hagman's Peerless Health Elixir" to sell you, use extreme caution. That stuff can cause blindness!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 08:16 PM

It's not just that which causes blindness, LH. As Amos (known as "Old One-Eye" among the gentry on the docks of San Diego) knows all too well -- you know the old quotation, "I'll only do it until I'm blind in ONE eye."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 08:27 PM

Gee, if I was still smokin the ganja, all (I think... I haven't been to the tavern in YEARS!) I may still have access to thru the cabby that "delivers" is grown here in NB and it's quality sucks unless it has improved GREATLY in the last... gee... gotta be at least a dozen years since I had a draw and that was just peer pressure.

My point? Ye fellers gotta be smokin some good (bad?) weed ta be gittin on like yas do.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 10:06 PM

I suspect it's just cabin fever with the cold weather. They'll snap out of it when the cold front passes (Southern CA) or when spring comes (ID).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 10:49 PM

Cool!

Look what I found! I signed up for evening alerts!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 11:26 AM

This one goes out to old Bobert who should be a guest columnist here.

Gnu, you might like this.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:11 PM

For the serious, hardcore stoner pot is a full-blown religion, complete with sacred rituals, creeds, and holy relics. I knew a whole set of those people back in the early 70s, and boy did they have a silly lifestyle! ;-) Harmless, mind you. But silly.

Every day was basically built around preparing pot to smoke, smoking it, discussing it, finding it, sharing it, selling it (in some cases), telling stories about past experiences with it, talking about the different varieties you could get and the different stone they provided, and assorted foolishness along the same lines.

98% of serious hardcore stoners are males. That tells you something right there. The 2% of serious hardcore stoners who are females are pretty weird chicks and are basically beyond hope as far as I'm concerned, but since they comprise a very small slice of the demographic, who really cares? Suffice it to say that they are straaaange, and it's best not to get into a relationship with one of them.

Most hardcore stoners also smoke cigarettes (which stink even worse than pot does and do you more harm too), but there are some hardcore stoners who realize how repulsive and harmful cigarettes are...and they only smoke pot or hash. I would call these people the "pot purists", and they usually have very mystical notions about pot, figuring that it is the one natural remedy that will cure virtually ALL ills. They use it to cure cancer, reduce tension, promote better sleep patterns, prevent acne, shrink hemorrhoids, and avoid unpleasant situations...like work!

They are absolutely incensed over the persecution of the innocent pot smoker by government and police forces....and well they should be! Never has so much attention been given so uselessly to anything so trivial in the history of law enforcement.

I sympathize with the ire of the religious pot smoker toward these oppressive government actions, because I think that if people want to do something silly and basically pretty harmless to themselves, they should bloody well be allowed to without interference from the justice system!!!!

And there you have it. ;-D

****

Amos, you didn't answer my last question. That's 1 demerit. No gold star for you today!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 03:19 PM

Screw you for an insensitive lout, LH. Anyone who knows anything about the shifting seas of the publishing industry knows that self-publishing is not the same thing that vanity publishing once was, a vaguely embarrassing compromise. Your remark is like referring to legs as "limbs" because it is improper to speak of appendages directly.

Check out Smashwords.com for a ream of knowledgeable information on developments over the last four years. Anyway, that is the direction I am going in at present, having grown weary of the insensate gelidity of the past gatekeepers. The world is not what it was, amigo!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 04:27 PM

I don't know anything about the shifting seas of the publishing industry, Amos. ;-) But you are quite right that the world is not what it was. It's becoming more horrifying, decadent, and weird with each passing year...

Now, can you tell me what "insensate gelidity" means?

I presume that insensate means "unfeeling" or "incapable of empathy", but I have no idea what "gelidity" means.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 04:31 PM

Okay, here. Anyone who IS anyone eventually has their name in the Washington Post...ahem.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 08:03 PM

Death has nothing to do with going away.The sun sets
The moon sets
But they are not gone.

~ Rumi

Insensate gelidity is unfeeling coldness, Little Hawk--the sort of non-communication which characterizes the past gatekeepers of which I spoke.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 09:44 PM

With thirty posts and three to make
Before the next of K doth make
ANother milestone, proud to sway
Above our Mother's tortuous way,
We each most come down from the shelf,
And look each deep within himself
To find the power, strength and will
These thirty posts and three to fill.
Thus each according to his station
Must plumb his far imagination
And boldly post, and bravely say,
"For Mom! On tot he next of Kay!"

Mortimer Gadfallion Blethiringscope III
"The Spirit of Progress"
from Reflections on the Future and Other Things
Plumsbroke and Fotheirngill, Swansea, 1949


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 10:29 PM

That brief statement by Rumi is brilliant, and right on the mark. He says so much in so few words.

And thanks for the explanation about the insensate gelidity.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 09:45 AM

You're welcome, but I fail to see why you think Rumi's short poetic piece is better than the much longer one by Mortimer Gadfallion Blethiringscope III.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 11:12 AM

That piece of wretched doggerel? It wasn't worth even acknowledging!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 11:49 AM

Well, you should be aware that Mortimer is a direct great-uncle of one of your favorite Britons, the ne-er-do-well spendthrift Miss Penelop Rutledge, and he holds the purse strings of the ancient family estate. So I would be a bit cautious about slagging his youthful efforts at poetry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 12:00 PM

In his youthful attempts at poetry he was remarkably prescient about MOAB and all that. The first electronic computers had only been around for a decade or so, let alone the Internet, Mudcat, and MOM. But I quibble . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 01:12 PM

Amos, Penelope does what she does, and I do what I do, and it's 2 separate matters. My actions are not contingent upon her approval...nor the contrary. You might say that we live in different worlds.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 01:43 PM

Well, she's CERTAINLY not Venus!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 10:04 PM

Penelope Rutledge stood me up. We had a date, but I guess I didn't offer her enough money so she didn't show up. I mean, her boots and miniskirt told you quite plainly that she was a "business girl" and very much for hire.

I'm just glad I didn't pay in advance.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 10:38 PM

Take your wife out to dinner instead, Rapparee!

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:27 AM

Busy morning, funeral home stuff from 6:30 to 9 today. Funeral Mass tomorrow, 10-12. Burial on the 23rd at 10 a.m., gather at the gate at 9:30.

NB; After Mass tomorrow lunch at Jim & Kelly's house, luncheon here after burial on the 23rd.

Clean out apartment between times. Relatives arriving from places like Sparks, NV and Hayfork, CA.

The funeral home things for my Aunt Ruth were last evening, Mass and burial today.

My sister's in some sort of therapy at the hospital; no news from that front.

I met "Bad Penny" before I was married, in 1969, when I backpacked through Europe.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 01:14 PM

Maggie and me are back from the big park down the road some; she gets all worked up when I swing my ball-thrower at her, and dances on her hind feet with her tongue lolling out and her ears flapping up and down like lily pads in a high breeze. It is something. Then I let her fly,and that dog transforms into a greased bullet, takes off like something shot from a gun, and overruns the ball just before it disappears into the canyon at the end of the park. She sends up a cloud of dust screeching to a halt and turns and pounces on it as though it were tryig to escape. I tell ya, it is something to see.

Half the time she remembers to bring it all the way back and the cycle repeats. But other times, she just forgets what we are doing and runs off to smell a pee-stain in the grass or something, and forgets the meaning of the word "ball". Just escapes her mind altogether until I walk over and pick it up. Then she gets interested again.

I think she is training me. Not sure how I feel about that, though.

My sympathies to Rapparree and the slow dance of Arlington. RIP.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 01:18 PM

Ya know...I don't like dogs much, mainly because they usually don't like me. What this means is: I am a lot less likely to visit you now, Amos. Too bad, isn't it?

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 02:38 PM

Rap, this is a difficult time for the family, but it is probably also when interesting stories come to the surface.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:46 PM

Steady on, Rap.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:13 PM

I'll get through the Mass and stuff tomorrow okay if I can keep myself and/or Pat from killing the pompous, self-important and self-impressed Monsignor who's in charge of the parish here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:56 PM

I'm sorry about Aunt Ruth, Rapparee, and I hope for the best (whatever that may be) with Martha.

Just stick out your sword cane and trip the Monsignor as he comes down the aisle if he gets out of hand.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jan 13 - 11:56 PM

Sounds like you are maybe going to the wrong parish, Rap.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 07:37 AM

My MIL lived in it for many years and helped build the church, hauling bricks and stuff I suppose. Irish were always good hod carriers. She considered it "her" parish church. The Msgr. is just too damned full of himself -- I told him last night about the pastor back home telling me I'd make a good heretic because I was too well educated Catholicism and I was intelligent. This dude (considers himself Rome-bound, I guess) said, "We'll try to prevent that." I mentioned I wanted to avoid the fate of Savanarola and he said that was a good idea -- I don't think he knows who that was, but it put him on notice not to screw around with me.

Pat's already messed with him -- one of the gift bearers is Episcopalian, and other participants aren't "adults."

He wore a collar and soutain to the funeral home!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 08:04 AM

Please tell it was at least black.

I was just thinking... nearly 47k and it seems like just ten years ago this thread was born... er hatched.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 09:02 AM

And some of your best friends are Mormon.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 11:00 AM

Well, see, I'm just trying to figure it out from my own perspective, Rap. I don't go near a church unless I totally respect and like and downright admire the quality of the people who are running it. And the denomination simply doesn't matter to me. I couldn't care less if it's Catholic, Buddhist, Hindu, Baptist, Seventh Day Adventist, Anglican, Jewish, Lutheran, Muslim or whatever the heck it is....what matters to me is the philosophy and conduct of the leadership at the place! And the attitude of the congregation. If they are people whom I find inspiring, due to their excellent character, their intelligence, and their philosophy, and their good conduct...

Then that's where I'll go.

If they use fear, divine punishment, and guilt as motivators, I have nothing to do with them. If they work from a positive perspective emphasizing love, brotherhood, and respect for human diversity, then that's for me.

I guess that starting out life as an atheist in an atheistic family isn't such a bad thing after all...it allows you total freedom to give equal consideration to all the religious possibilities, and not be bound by some family tradition.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...the very best, kindest, most intelligent, and most socially progressive (and liberal) people I've ever met have been people of what is generally termed "faith"...but they certainly weren't all members of the same church or the same religion. They can be found here and there in virtually all churches and religions. They may be relatively rare. But they are definitely out there.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 12:05 PM

How different it would have been if he had replied, "Oh, really? Well we can always use a few good heretics. 'Course they're hard to find...".

ANyway, don't let him get under your skin, Blowhards are a dime a dozen.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 01:14 PM

Hear, hear, Little Hawk!

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 09:41 PM

I told him after the Mass that I'd decided on sainthood.

St. Michael the Heretic.

He pretty certain that that wouldn't work. I told him that there were all sorts of saints already, so why not one for heretics? He didn't have an answer.

BUT he did do a real, "uncanned", sermon about Rita. Inaccurate to those who really knew her, but he tried.

Now for Arlington on Wednesday. No, we are NOT going anywhere near downtown DC this weekend!

We're lucky -- we're in a motel room until the 28th at US $79/night and hotel rooms are going for an AVERAGE of US $450/night in DC because of the inauguration.

People came in from all over, and when we followed the casket down the aisle at church the "Sodality" lined the aisle with lit candles on both sides. I've never been quite certain was the Sodality was/is, but most Catholic churches have one. When I saw it I could only think of Voltaire's supposed last words, "What? The flames already?"

I'm going to bed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jan 13 - 11:48 PM

Awww, I think that since you're there you ought to try to take in a little of the inaugural festivities if any are convenient. It'll give you a bit of a boost when you remember all of the aspects of this trip. Head by Bloomingdales, see if you can't pick up a tux and a ballgown. I hear some hotels are arranging substantial discounts at local retailers just in time for their customers to come to town and shop to attend one of the balls. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:16 AM

You could describe your plans for the day and get a little closer to that next big number. I'd sure like to head to bed right now, but it is so close, I'll wait and see if you drop in again.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:19 AM

Not yet? I'm killing time waiting on an experiment - trying to see if Windows Media Center can actually convert .wtv files into something that can play in a regular DVD player.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:24 AM

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From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:24 AM

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From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:25 AM

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From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:26 AM

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From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:30 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 13 - 12:35 AM

I wish I could have kept a couple of the odd effects when I didn't have that html quite up to snuff as I worked on that last number. Looked cool, but Max wouldn't have stood for it, I don't think.


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