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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Rapparee 28 Feb 14 - 11:45 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 11:45 PM

Try Firefox.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 11:28 PM

I think that last post actually exists... gotta be 15 times I tried to post it. I don't like Google. Gotta get back to IE but Bill Gates is messin that up.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 11:19 PM

"...ice cream sundae with ketchup topping."

No.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 11:03 PM

Well, my knee surgery has been moved from the 19th to the 26th of March. Something about getting 3-D MRIs or something.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 10:58 PM

I...am in Logan, UT. Contrary to anything Eiseley may say, Aggies do NOT live in caves, never wash, and eat their young. Unlike the University of Utah, Utah State University has a very nice on-campus ice cream and cheese shop, where the products sold are the result of work at USU. Yesterday I had a chocolate and habanero ice cream sundae with ketchup topping.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 01:36 PM

We just got a WinCo here. It looks a lot like our defunct "Sack N' Save" warehouse grocery stores except cleaner. And a better bulk section. I wouldn't shop there often, just when I need a few of their unprocessed foods I can stock up on and freeze, like steel cut oats.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 12:45 PM

It has finally stopped raining here. Anybody wanna buy a nearly-finished ark, never been used?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Feb 14 - 12:40 PM

Mom's favorite wanker is out of commission apparently--perhaps he got stuck at Winco. So I will save Mom from lurking in the nether regions, which, come to think of it, may be what is preoccupying our favorite son.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 11:17 PM

WinCo, Costco and Shopco went
To sea in a pea-green boat.
They took their honeys, and lots of money
To keep the damn thing afloat.
Said CostyCO and Winco to Shopco, "Friend,
Should we raise the minimum pay?"
Said Shopco, "Boys,
Just screw that noise,
It would cost me half a day."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 11:03 PM

There is a Winco in town and yes, I do shop there sometimes. I also shop at Shopko, and we just joined Costco.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 02:40 PM

I learn so much from Mother.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 02:40 PM

Now I am glad I got out of bed today. Otherwise, I wouldna learnt that. Thanks, Rap. You are a true scholar. Do you shop at WinCo?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 11:18 AM

Because it comes from the Welsh via Irish, where they toss letters around like they had a lot of them. Be glad -- the original word was "rhwyaighmyia" and meant "the sound of pounding rocks together at the dance at the crossroads so there is a beat for people to dance to". Notice that the definition ends in a preposition, which shows it wasn't English.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 06:56 AM

I woke at the crack of dawn, stuffed the crack and went back to sleep. Why is always a sunny morn when I want to, and can, sleep in? I gotta get me one a them there sleep alert thingamabobs what the truckers got fer makin sure they don't nod off whilst runnin their rigs down the highway. Fallin asleep in front of the boob tube screws up my natural acadian rhythm, not to mention my neck.

How come rhythm has an h where it shouldn't and no vowel where it should?

Tea. I need tea. Actually, teasss.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 27 Feb 14 - 06:34 AM

Unless Chongo happens to be real...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 10:16 PM

We want pictures! We want pictures!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 08:42 PM

Do you know what would have happened if I hadn't put the freshly washed clothes in the dryer? I would have had to put them in the dryer near dawn tomorrow and say ten Holy Fuck Mes. WHEW!

So, where were we? Oh, yeah, waxing poetitechnicjargonly about whatever the fuck.

Ya know, even with all this excitement and mellowodrama, I still wonder why all the LHs haven't posted in so long. Could it actually be that our certified beyond belief bachelor has found true love and is gettin his old ass shagged THAT much?

Or did he get a new puppy? Hmmm... nah. If it was a puppy, there would be pics. If he's shaggin, I don't want pics.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 08:26 PM

She still had until I posted again near dawn. Don't get yer melodramatic panties in a tw... fuck! The Laundry! I gotta get the clothes from the washer to the dryer rig


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 07:37 PM

No one else cared that poor Mom was second from the bottom, hanging out with sleepless backlit devices and Jane's Rainbow.

Well, I cared. I brought her back up to the top. I brought her tea and cookies. That's why I'm her favorite.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 06:36 AM

The battery in Mum's car is in the trunk. Chrysler recommends replacing the battery every four years. I did not know these. I do not like the latter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 10:34 PM

I think that your statements should be posted so that a statistically valid sampling might be obtained which would in all probability allow us to verify (within the limits of accuracy inherent in all statistical studies) the linguistic content (if any) and structural cohesiveness of your previous post, Amos. Structural algorithms might be found which would assist in such a study and similar studies in the future.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 03:52 PM

I am saying that a meta-statistical approach would have opened a path to a more coherent deconstruction given the matrix of perspectives informing the original analysis, is all.

WHat do you think, Still? Can I get a job at UT?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 02:06 PM

Yer sayin it's bullshit? Apropos no?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 01:03 PM

Erroneous extrapolations caused by misassessment of the conceptual framework governing themean indices used in post-experimental evaluation have led researchers to an unsubstantiated conclusion.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 11:14 AM

That is a very good point. I think that following the regulations espoused in various RFCs (such as 1924, 1926, and 1437, to same but a few) and the standards contained therein would maximize the minimality of such gibberish.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 10:09 AM

No surprise, I suppose, about this: http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-papers-1.14763

Publishers withdraw more than 120 gibberish papers



Conference proceedings removed from subscription databases after scientist reveals that they were computer-generated.

The publishers Springer and IEEE are removing more than 120 papers from their subscription services after a French researcher discovered that the works were computer-generated nonsense.

Over the past two years, computer scientist Cyril Labbé of Joseph Fourier University in Grenoble, France, has catalogued computer-generated papers that made it into more than 30 published conference proceedings between 2008 and 2013. Sixteen appeared in publications by Springer, which is headquartered in Heidelberg, Germany, and more than 100 were published by the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE), based in New York. Both publishers, which were privately informed by Labbé, say that they are now removing the papers.

Among the works were, for example, a paper published as a proceeding from the 2013 International Conference on Quality, Reliability, Risk, Maintenance, and Safety Engineering, held in Chengdu, China. (The conference website says that all manuscripts are "reviewed for merits and contents".) The authors of the paper, entitled 'TIC: a methodology for the construction of e-commerce', write in the abstract that they "concentrate our efforts on disproving that spreadsheets can be made knowledge-based, empathic, and compact". (Nature News has attempted to contact the conference organizers and named authors of the paper but received no reply; however at least some of the names belong to real people. The IEEE has now removed the paper).

How to create a nonsense paper

Labbé developed a way to automatically detect manuscripts composed by a piece of software called SCIgen, which randomly combines strings of words to produce fake computer-science papers. SCIgen was invented in 2005 by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in Cambridge to prove that conferences would accept meaningless papers — and, as they put it, "to maximize amusement" (see 'Computer conference welcomes gobbledegook paper'). A related program generates random physics manuscript titles on the satirical website arXiv vs. snarXiv. SCIgen is free to download and use, and it is unclear how many people have done so, or for what purposes. SCIgen's output has occasionally popped up at conferences, when researchers have submitted nonsense papers and then revealed the trick.

Labbé does not know why the papers were submitted — or even if the authors were aware of them. Most of the conferences took place in China, and most of the fake papers have authors with Chinese affiliations. Labbé has emailed editors and authors named in many of the papers and related conferences but received scant replies; one editor said that he did not work as a program chair at a particular conference, even though he was named as doing so, and another author claimed his paper was submitted on purpose to test out a conference, but did not respond on follow-up. Nature has not heard anything from a few enquiries.

"I wasn't aware of the scale of the problem, but I knew it definitely happens. We do get occasional e-mails from good citizens letting us know where SCIgen papers show up," says Jeremy Stribling, who co-wrote SCIgen when he was at MIT and now works at VMware, a software company in Palo Alto, California.

"The papers are quite easy to spot," says Labbé, who has built a website where users can test whether papers have been created using SCIgen. His detection technique, described in a study1 published in Scientometrics in 2012, involves searching for characteristic vocabulary generated by SCIgen. Shortly before that paper was published, Labbé informed the IEEE of 85 fake papers he had found. Monika Stickel, director of corporate communications at IEEE, says that the publisher "took immediate action to remove the papers" and "refined our processes to prevent papers not meeting our standards from being published in the future". In December 2013, Labbé informed the IEEE of another batch of apparent SCIgen articles he had found. Last week, those were also taken down, but the web pages for the removed articles give no explanation for their absence. . .

Read the rest at the site. And don't get carried away, I know some of you already know how to do this. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 04:28 AM

So, A goes outside while Rap stays inside with the beer, no doubt to much self-satisfaction.

No peeking, A!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 11:46 PM

Are you saying I "satisfy" myself? Huh? Are ya? Ya wanna step outside?







I'm going to stay inside with the beer, myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 11:24 PM

I am glad at least that you are self-satisfied, Rapparee, seeing that no other candidates have come forward...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 11:18 PM

I told you it was mine. So there!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 10:57 PM

We've got your number, gnu!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 04:26 PM

Indeed. A number of free for all. Pot in every pot if I am elected!

Disclaimer... I don't advocate the use of pot. But, it's better than using an outhouse unless ya live in Calleeforneeahhh.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 12:45 PM

You are a sodbuster, a claim-jumper, and a fizzlewit, sirrah! I defy your imaginary asserted claims on numbers. Numbers do not subscribe to the claims of moldy-minded humans. They roam large and free in an intricate dance known only to the purest of minds, beyond the boundaries of your poor shadow-cave, and the reach of puerile mewling egos. Numbers must be FREE!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 10:47 AM

Hello. It's me again. Nothing special, I just wanted to wish everyone a day filled with joy, music, and sunshine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 10:30 AM

Another century rolls by...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 09:13 AM

Guest at 22:58 AST was me... gnu on laptop.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 09:58 PM

Yer a naughty nut.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 08:33 PM

All numbers where, reading from the left, the first and last numbers are the same and the second and fourth numbers are the same, and the third number is any number, belong to me (up to 100,000, following which the third and fourth numbers must be identical). Likewise any number with naught but zeroes following it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 08:22 PM

Ya know, some of them shrooms that cause psychodillic stuff have an active principle that passes out in the urine of the users. In some societies these shrooms have been reserved for the wealthy elite, and the poor folks drink up when they can. I don't know how long this can go on, but I think that dilution would eventually render it useless for future imbibing.

I understand that the stuff that's drunk tastes a lot like Budweiser.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 05:06 PM

Were funny shrooms involved? I saw a bunch of lads in residence at uni have a magic shroom spaghetti supper. It was, ahhh, interesting. They weren't violent or threatening in any way but when they climbed into various trees and laughed as passersby passed by, I thought, gee, them there shrooms are some fucked up shit. And, of course, why would anyone eat sommat that even cows and sheep won't eat? Humans are the strangest animals on earth.

Then again, I drink a few Buds whilst penning songs, poems and prose. Why, I even saw an author of note from Calleeforneeah drink Yankee Bud and smoke Camels! Imagine THAT!

BTW... that empty pack of cammels is exactly where you left it. Hasn't been touched, for good reason... I see it often as I walk by and it warms my heart. Thanks for an evening I will never forget.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 02:03 PM

I thought this letter to the editor from today's "Idaho State Urina...Journal" might be of scientifical interest:

   What's going on has anybody been watching the moon chem spray? It's not for moisture. Look around. Pay attention to how the clouds hang like theater curtains.

   There's days it sets and swirls — like hiding or inducing something or both. When does a waxing crescent moon that should be full look like an eclipse? Last month it went on for seven days. Even look at the stars. I did a lot of research. It's intense and not even on the news. I'm not the only one who's noticed it.

   You would think it would make the news, rain in Alaska in January, freezing in Florida, an increase in earthquakes. Headlines: Southeast Idaho purchases anther armored vehicle for what; what's really going to happen?

   I'll keep pushing until someone knows.


I have not published the sender's name for fear of a lawsuit by a reputable science-type person. I've noticed "theater-curtain clouds" too -- they are called the "aurora borealis" and will become neat colors if you're far enough away from ambient light and watch long enough.

(The "armored vehicles" were purchased by groups of sheriffs' departments working together to spread out the costs and they will be used by the SWAT teams when needed. They mount no guns and run on rubber tires, they are used to get the cops close to an active shooter without the cops getting shot. Oh! As far as I know, no federal monies were used. One, for the lower end of I-15, is in Pocatello and the other, for the northern end from Idaho Falls to the Montana line, is in Idaho Falls.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 12:37 PM

Sunny Sunday. Daffodils in the yard, and time to get to work. I wish I had some of this BS to shovel into the gardens and flowerbeds.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 11:00 AM

That is one off-the-beam entry, Pete! I had no idea there would be a translation into Arabic of furred (Carp.), let alone that it would be classified under TEchnology. PLanks a lot!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 07:01 AM

He certainly knows how to make the lady fat!

Still, if he catches enough of them furred carp he can make her a nice big coat (if he can understand the instructions).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 04:30 AM

Rapp certainly knows how to make the fat lady sing, doesn't he?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 09:40 PM

And pie and ice cream and some of that delicious spice cake they make in Quebec and perhaps some wild berry cobbler with maple syrup whipped cream and of course lots of freshly made butter. Tortiere would also be a good addition to the menu.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 09:35 PM

I'd think a dog running up there could shake the earth enough to start a quake - be careful, Amos and Maggie!

That's quite a rich diet you're offering up to your lady friends, gnu. Throw in some salad and fruit so they won't worry about putting on the pounds.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 05:58 AM

"Total collapse of the interstate isn't considered likely, but the failure of on-ramps and shifting of the road bed would seriously impair its use."

Can't ya get quake tires fer that there? I got studded winter tires fer Mum's car a few weeks back after we had all those snow storms in close proximity time-wise. Ain't had but one real snow since so they must work.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 12:20 AM

A finned salute stores up credit in Heaven, mon copain. You guys with your long tales of fish and Big Rivers need to find some sunlight to warm your puir bones, I think. We had some here in San Digo today--it warmed the land up t o > 75F, and everyone was wearing short sleeves. The dog was more than happy to take advantage by galloping along the many-scented borders of the trails that run through the nearby canyons of Marion Bear State Park. It's actually a small fissure leading off of the big fault-line coming in from La Jolla on the Pacific Coast about half-a-mile West of here. If the Coast ever breaks off, this fault line is going to be one of the dotted lines of cleavage. You can find it on fault maps labeled as the Rose Canyon Fault. You could look it up...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 11:28 PM

There was the time when my two brother and I were out wandering around The Swamp. A train was stopped on the tracks that went through The Swamp and suddenly we realized that the tank cars were filled with the last remaining furred carp in existence! They were being taken to Chicago to be made into fur things, like coats and hats, and they cooked up pretty good after you got the fur off.

We knew that this was totally unacceptable and that if we didn't Do Something there would be no more furred carp! If we could release them back into the creek...somehow...

Then my brother Ted yelled, "Quick! Take off your pants!"

That was a very odd thing to say, but he explained. We could put a pants leg over the tank car drain, stick the legs of our pants together, close the place where you put the pants on real tight with our belts, and use the setup as a sort of hose to turn the furred carp loose into the creek!

Quicker than a wink or two we did that, but found that we also had to use our long-handled underwear as well. We did, and butt-naked we watched as the furred carp shot out in the creek, where they would be able to get back the Mississippi River and freedom.

We managed to empty all 32 tank cars this way AND get dressed and out of sight before the train crew came along and found all of the valves open and the fish gone.

We never got a reward or anything other than knowing that we'd done a Good Thing, but the very last furred carp to leave did turn and sort of give us a salute of thanks with his or her fin.


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