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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Bee-dubya-ell 01 Feb 04 - 08:46 PM
Rapparee 01 Feb 04 - 08:34 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 01 Feb 04 - 08:12 PM
Rapparee 01 Feb 04 - 06:46 PM
Amos 01 Feb 04 - 06:12 PM
s6k 01 Feb 04 - 05:53 PM
Rapparee 01 Feb 04 - 04:46 PM
Amos 01 Feb 04 - 04:37 PM
GUEST,Clyde the Camel 31 Jan 04 - 03:04 PM
Rapparee 31 Jan 04 - 02:35 PM
Amos 31 Jan 04 - 02:26 PM
Rustic Rebel 31 Jan 04 - 12:36 PM
s6k 30 Jan 04 - 05:38 AM
CarolC 29 Jan 04 - 10:38 PM
Little Hawk 29 Jan 04 - 09:08 PM
khandu 29 Jan 04 - 08:10 PM
Rapparee 29 Jan 04 - 11:59 AM
Amos 28 Jan 04 - 11:03 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 28 Jan 04 - 10:03 PM
Amos 28 Jan 04 - 07:31 PM
Acme 28 Jan 04 - 05:16 PM
s6k 28 Jan 04 - 01:59 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 28 Jan 04 - 11:45 AM
GUEST,freds 28 Jan 04 - 11:15 AM
khandu 27 Jan 04 - 08:00 PM
JennyO 27 Jan 04 - 11:42 AM
Acme 27 Jan 04 - 10:51 AM
Rapparee 27 Jan 04 - 10:33 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 27 Jan 04 - 09:19 AM
Amos 27 Jan 04 - 08:34 AM
Tweed 27 Jan 04 - 07:53 AM
Rustic Rebel 27 Jan 04 - 03:23 AM
Amos 27 Jan 04 - 12:30 AM
Acme 27 Jan 04 - 12:03 AM
Amos 26 Jan 04 - 07:19 PM
Rapparee 26 Jan 04 - 07:15 PM
Amos 26 Jan 04 - 07:06 PM
khandu 26 Jan 04 - 06:42 PM
Rustic Rebel 26 Jan 04 - 06:29 PM
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Tweed 26 Jan 04 - 05:10 PM
Amos 26 Jan 04 - 04:45 PM
Rapparee 26 Jan 04 - 04:28 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 08:46 PM

Would somebody please decode what Rap said? Some crazy woman stole my BS Decoder Ring and is using it for labial ornamentation.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 08:34 PM

You mean I can say (I'll encode these to protect innocent ears/eyes) stuff like "Stick your adarinazt up your pereat and rotate for a while on it" or "Holy reawqqe, Batman! Will you look at the size of her mdytrxca!" but I can't say what you said I said?

Well, lick my liver and serve me up a summons!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 08:12 PM

Ohmigod!!!! He said, "nonobligate symbiant"!!!! That's maybe going a little too far even for the MOAB!!!! Are you trying to get this thread closed????


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 06:46 PM

I dunno about that one, but I sure as hell don't agree with BF Skinner!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 06:12 PM

Rapaire:

I am not sure I agree with that, and I am pretty sure I do not. For one thing, it has always seemed easier to model thought than it ever turns out to be in actual practice. That's because the people constructing the hypothesis are orders of magnitude better at it than the boxes inside their hypothetical scenarios.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: s6k
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 05:53 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 04:46 PM

Thanks, Amos. I needed that.

Here's a little something everyone should know about linguistics:

It is suggested that certain kinds of finite state automata--i.e., recurrent neural networks|are likely to have sufficient computational power, and the necessary generalization capability, to serve as models for the processing and acquisition of linguistic structure. These arguments are further corroborated by a number of computer simulations, demonstrating that recurrent connectionist models are able to learn complex recursive regularities and have powerful generalization abilities. Importantly, the performance evinced by the networks are comparable with observed human behavior on similar aspects of language. Moreover, an evolutionary account is provided, advocating a learning and processing based explanation of the origin and subsequent phylogenetic development of language. This view construes language as a nonobligate symbiant, arguing that language has evolved to fit human learning and processing mechanisms, rather than vice versa. As such, this perspective promises to explain linguistic universals in functional terms, and motivates an account of language acquisition which incorporates innate, but not language-specific constraints on the learning process. The purported poverty of the stimulus is re-appraised in this light, and it is concluded that linguistic structure may be learnable by bottom-up statistical learning models, such as, connectionist neural networks.

If you prove to me that you want to read the whole thing instead of this abstract, I'll provide you with the name of a competent psychiatrist.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Feb 04 - 04:37 PM

What you need to know about semantics:

SEMANTICS: different views about the nature of meaning and the proper formulation of a semantic theory. There are roughly three theories about meaning: (i) the denotational theory, (ii) the conceptualist theory, (iii) the pragmatic theory.   
(i) The denotational theory characterizes the meaning of an expression in terms of the notions reference and   truth. The meaning of a sentence can be described by specifying when it is true, the meaning of other expressions can be described by specifying the entity or entities it refers to. Thus, the correspondence between language and the world is taken to be the crucial element of meaning (hence the name correspondence theory of meaning). The denotational theory is typical of   logical semantics which is   truth conditional and model-theoretic (Montague (1970), Gamut 1991).   
(ii) The conceptualist theory identifies the meaning of an expression with the concepts or ideas associated with the expression, i.e. with a mental representation of the content of that expression, often making use of   decomposition of word meaning. The semantic work which has been done within generative grammar is usually based on a conceptualist theory: Katz-Fodor-semantics,   Generative Semantics, and    Conceptual Structure (Jackendoff 1983).
(iii) the pragmatic theory identifies the meaning of an expression with the use that is made of it by participants in an interaction. This theory is often named the meaning-is-use theory after Wittgenstein (1953). It is characteristic for those theories in which speech acts play a central role, following Austin (1962). The three approaches need not be incompatible, because they all deal with different aspects of meaning (see Chierchia & McConnell-Ginet 1990).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Clyde the Camel
Date: 31 Jan 04 - 03:04 PM

Braaaawwww!!! Thhhhpppptttt!!! Muuurrrrr!!! Ptooey!!!

Translation: Hey! Tell this damned kid to quit putting his bubblegum in my ear! Christ! You people act like you've never been on a camel before! Gotta get a better job! I spit in your general direction!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Jan 04 - 02:35 PM

Oh, thank God that MOAB is back! It was startin' to come out of my ears!

And excitement and adventure of an altogether different sort await you in MOAB.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jan 04 - 02:26 PM

RR:

The Italian translation was of my earlier (28 Jan 0731) post -- it was purely for your benefit in case you had buckled under the loss and ended up speaking only Italian.

Well? It could haaaapen!!

I am glad you have resurfaced and I missed you!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 31 Jan 04 - 12:36 PM

I love you people. You are my family. I have been through a couple rough days and I just want to say sorry for posting a non-bullshit but look what we discovered by doing it... there are more people that come here than say so!
Amos- there you go speaking that foreign language again!(What?)

On with the bullshit folks! Long Live MOAB!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: s6k
Date: 30 Jan 04 - 05:38 AM


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From: CarolC
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 10:38 PM


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Date: 29 Jan 04 - 09:08 PM


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Date: 29 Jan 04 - 08:10 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Jan 04 - 11:59 AM

All of MOAB grieves when one of MOAB is hurt.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 11:03 PM

Dirò che è uno shame grande effettivamente, RR e riterrà libero da scriverlo se desiderate fare così. Siamo con voi tutto il senso in tutto il caso.    Odio che la realtà può essere così irreversibile (da BS e dissimile che è probabilmente perchè fuggiamo ad esso). Spero che entrambi presentiate ai giorni più luminosi.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 10:03 PM

DAMN TWEED!!!

So I was just over at Tweed's Blues and Tweed had posted this at the end of a message:

"If you're on your bike,
And it's night,
Wear white.....Evening all...."

(Between the Buttons fans will know that one...)

See you all Monday...


Now, look, I remember The Rolling Stones "Between the Buttons" album. In fact, it was the first rock album I owned. I even remember that line. But I cannot remember what song it's from to save my life. I still have the album, but I don't have a turntable. It's drivin' me friggin' crazy! And it sounds like Tweed's going out of town for the weekend, so I can't PM his sorry ass.

HELP!!! WHAT DAMNED SONG'S IT FROM???

Sorry about puttin' another music post on the MOAB, but it ain't exactly folk music and the Folk Nazis would probably get pissed if I asked in the dreaded music section. I suppose I could Google up an answer too, but why spoil the fun?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 07:31 PM

I will say that it is a great shame indeed, RR, and feel free to write me if you wish to do so. We're with you all the way in any case.

I hate that reality can be so irreversible (unlike BS< which is probably why we flee to it).
I hope you both arise to brighter days.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 05:16 PM

So sorry, Rustic. (Starting back slow and small)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: s6k
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 01:59 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 11:45 AM


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From: GUEST,freds
Date: 28 Jan 04 - 11:15 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: khandu
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 08:00 PM


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From: JennyO
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 11:42 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 10:51 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 10:33 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 09:19 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 08:34 AM


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From: Tweed
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 07:53 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 03:23 AM

May I ask at this time, a moment of silent post?
because I have lost a brother today who in my heart has meant the most.
My brother of the washtub bass who played it very well
left me in my tears and his memory to dwell.
The Erect Fossils will now no longer be the same,
without my brother Mikey to play like he was insane.
Please do not respond, or feel I need a friend
I just ask you to post ..in a silent refrain.


In memory of Mike Moorhouse-1-27-04


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 12:30 AM

Have you done a Google search for "some poor sod"? Did MOAB come up? This is interesting!!

I did one, just to test my theory and al5hough MOAB did not come up, being sheltered by the database server from prowling spiders, almost EVERYTHING that did come up would have qualified as high-class, first-rate pure-dee BS. Try it!!

Coincidence? I think not!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 27 Jan 04 - 12:03 AM

Geez, I wonder what this thread must look like when it comes up randomly in a Google search for some poor sod.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 07:19 PM

Good Rapaire!! Dearest Princess Rebel!! How, with such friends, can our Fellowship of the MOAB fail?? Lets us march on, consecrayed, dedicated, unfathoming in our MOABitude, and turn now   to our quest!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 07:15 PM

Amos! Those of the Idaho Legion who are still able to stand stand ready to ride with you on your quest! They are ready to face with you the Pits of Thermopolis, the Lava Hot Springs, the Awful Butte, the Perils of the Portland (no, wait, that's in the other direction), the Fearful Sturgis, the howling Wolf City. E'en I, myself, will be there, wishing all Godspeed and a fair wind in your sails, my sword out in salute of the Good Quest! I shall play the Trumpet That Shall Never Call Retreat myself!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 07:06 PM

Now II hear, and quickly answer Princess Rebel's thundering call!
Let me not misstep nor stumble
Let me never fooly fall.
I am bound for distant Fargo and the frozen plains beyond
Where the Bluesmen do their number, wailing notes like Fairy Fronds
Where the Northern Lights twirl lightly
To the sound of Blazin' Blues
Princess Rebel's proud and knightly
Escort in his dancing shoes!
Onward then, into the tundra!
Past the Frozen Door of Thing
To the desperate Halls of Bismarck
Winning the Dakota Ring!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: khandu
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 06:42 PM

The Royal Forkers stand ready to move with the brave souls who have undertaken this perilous mission.
They are under the command of any MOABite who dares this quest.
I have instructed them in the evil of the Anti-Shatner & they are wroth!
Realizing that some of them may not return, they have asked for one wild night with the Royal Diancing Tarts; I have granted their request.
Please do not enter the territory of Mississippi on this night for I suspect much decadence & debauchery for the next 12 hours.
What the hell...everyone of you is welcomed!!

bwl, my lucky *Queen safekeeps the decoder ring for me. She is, even as I post, deciphering the code!

Kk


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 06:29 PM

I forgot to mention that I really don't want Bill to die. Really, I want him. He excited me with his wild man scream.Then I saw those things he does on that page that Leonard Nimoy showed us and it made me really excited to know that the Bill polymorphic(sp?)stud is actually our friend here at the MOAB. He might be a pervert but he is still our friend. You man you. (or was it she-man?)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 06:20 PM

Through the plains of Ponsford and up along the Smokey hills gravels.
No snow or ice will wayward me, as I reach the prairie of my travels .
My journey is not long nor a hardship, Fargo is a mere two hours away.
And the Fargo Winter Blues Fest is in two weeks, where I'll be dancing the night and day.
So should someone be making this journey, to find us the North Decoder rings,
It would make more sense than any, that it be I , to return them to MOAB, and the King.
If patience in not a virtue and in two weeks the subject has changed,
Send up Amos in haste, and a meeting can be arranged.
It'll take you two weeks anyway Amos, so plan on a night of blues,
and while your packing your things, don't forget, to bring your dancing shoes!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 05:20 PM

No, Amos! No! Do not go after either the North or South Decoder Rings! Horrible things lurk on your journey! Nasty, slimy things! Things that best go unknown, things that are best left under their rocks, things that neither mankind nor womankind were meant to know! Amongs the mountainous way to the North Decoder Ring lurks Danger like the Bozeman, the Pierre, the Wyo, not to mention the Sorcha of Torrington (a good sort, actually, but surrounded by The Corgis).

Oh, heck, if you really want to go, don't let me stop you. But, if you don't come back because The Worst Has Happened, can I have your baseball glove?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Tweed
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 05:10 PM

Pore pore smartass GUEST....you habv stumbled into a hellhole fram wich thar iz no way out obv! An' also served to only acclimate the situation found in here as the Ilks habv been stirred and shaken by yore insensibel comments.   I hope you an yore asshole buddy Bill Shatner iz happy now..you two dorks habv gotten the Poit Lariat screwed up from hollering and iz now in some kind of spasmodemous peroxidizm wif much foaming and gnashing obv hiz four good teef obver yore uncohorant rhesus. Howsomebver, I will pray fore you bof, az I am a good sort, and can only hop thet scorpions will somehow end up in yore fruit obv the loons and gnaw yore nuts clean off obv the bof obv you.

Yerz,
Tweed
K.Obv.T.R.Obv.T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 04:45 PM

So no-one will step forward? I will!! I will go on this mission and will bring back the Decoder Ring to the Halls of MOAB. And I will shame one of each other species here in MOABLaandia into coming with me, but willy or nilly, I am on my way.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 04:28 PM

You can also get these rings in Bismark or Fargo. They are called, respectively, South or North Decoder Rings.

Never forget That Which Has Been Written By The Elves:

Three Rings for the Joe Clones under the sky,
Seven for the CHFC as they sit stoned,
Nine for Bee-Dubya doomed to clays,
One for King Khandu on his dark throne
In the Land of MOAB where the BS lays.
One Decoder Ring to rule them all, One Decoder Ring to find them,
One Decoder Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of MOAB where the BS lays.
Doo dah, doo dah, in the Land of MOAB where the BS lays,
Oh, de doo dah days.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 03:13 PM

Ah, yes... The decoder ring...

Well, Amos, regretfully, I cannot send you a decoder ring. You see, there are only three sources for Official MOAB BS Decoder Rings.

The first is the navel of Holy Trinity of BS member Britney Spears. The second is the left nipple of Holy Trinity of BS member Barbara Streisand. And the third is the member of Holy Trinity of BS member Bill Shatner (the real one).   

Official MOAB BS Decoder Rings carry a tremendous charge of Psi and Chi and other New Age BS type stuff so the members of the Holy Trinity of BS are extremely reluctant to part with them. I got mine by posing as a hotel custodian and snagging Ms Spears' ring from a bedside table while she was in the Jaccuzi. Little Hawk and khandu got theirs by having sex with Ms Streisand and Mr. Shatner, though it's not exactly clear who had sex with whom, whether any parties involved achieved orgasm or if money changed hands.

I'm sure that all three Holy Trinity of BS members have new rings by now, so, if you really want one, just decide who you would most like to bang and go for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: s6k
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 12:18 PM

Nope! I'm not tired of MOAB!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 11:32 AM

Dear Guest of 6:30 p.m. yesterday, when I didn't have a connection to respond to you with:

Define "everyone" as in your statement "everyone is getting tired...."

That's a tall order, son (or daughter). Have you queried everyone? Have you asked Amos if he's getting tired of MOAB? Khandu? Have you asked my brother Tony? Do you even know my brother Tony, and if so, why would you want to? After all, he's the only person I know of who has two cannons, a canoe, and a coffin in his garage. He's also having his bathroom rebuilt, but that has nothing to do with his possessions.

But I digress. In order for you to have determined that "everyone is getting tired of this thread" you would have had to have asked such people as William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Paris Hilton, Joan Baez, Tom Paxton, Emmy Lou Harris, Bruce La Wall, Seamus Kennedy, Mick Jagger, Jennifer Lopez, Vicente Fox, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Colin Powell, Ed Guthrie, George W. Bush, George H. Bush, Barbara Bush, Joan Jett, Harold Savage, Tony Blair, Tommy Makem, Bono, and whoever's in charge in Italy right now -- among 5.something billion other folks.

And you certainly didn't ask ME. I would have know if you did. And all you need is ONE person to say, "Nope! I'm not tired of MOAB!" or even "Whatever are you talking about?" for your hypothesis to fail.

Bye.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 08:40 AM

BWL:

Please send me my decoder ring so I, too, can join in the plan to rid MOAB of the wicked anti-Shatner and make the world safe for true democrqcy and keep MOAB pure.

Enclosed are five box-tops from your breakfast cereal. My dog likes it very much.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: s6k
Date: 26 Jan 04 - 04:46 AM

DEATH TO THE ANTI SHATNER!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Jan 04 - 11:44 PM

All right! King khandu's into the fray as well! Kk, please refer to the coded message I sent Little Hawk. I'm sure you'll find the plan satisfatory as soon as you find your decoder ring.


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