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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Amos 09 Jul 12 - 12:44 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 09 Jul 12 - 11:20 AM
Rapparee 09 Jul 12 - 09:07 AM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 09 Jul 12 - 02:46 AM
Amos 08 Jul 12 - 11:56 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 08 Jul 12 - 11:08 PM
Amos 08 Jul 12 - 06:34 PM
Acme 08 Jul 12 - 04:43 PM
Rapparee 08 Jul 12 - 03:47 PM
gnu 08 Jul 12 - 06:16 AM
Rapparee 07 Jul 12 - 10:52 PM
Rapparee 07 Jul 12 - 11:36 AM
Acme 07 Jul 12 - 12:05 AM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 06 Jul 12 - 11:33 PM
Amos 06 Jul 12 - 05:45 PM
Rapparee 06 Jul 12 - 12:59 PM
Little Hawk 06 Jul 12 - 11:05 AM
Rapparee 06 Jul 12 - 10:56 AM
Little Hawk 05 Jul 12 - 11:16 PM
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Little Hawk 05 Jul 12 - 01:40 PM
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Amos 05 Jul 12 - 10:03 AM
Rapparee 05 Jul 12 - 09:23 AM
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Amos 03 Jul 12 - 09:31 PM
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Amos 03 Jul 12 - 04:29 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jul 12 - 12:44 PM

My basic point was kind of overlooked: how do we end up seeing a figment accuse a Real of making stuff up? Seems to me this violates the first law of thermodynamics, or at least its psychological equivalent. By the way, that equivalent is a powerful law in psychology--it governs all known psychological phenomena, just as the laws of thermodynamics govern all molecular phenomena--but it has never been articulated!!. So there's probably a big prize in it for anyone who can put it accurately into words. But anyway, it is definitely being violated when imaginary beings point fingers at real beings accusing them of having imaginations. It just doesn't add up, if you see what I mean.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 09 Jul 12 - 11:20 AM

You are definitely talkin' sense now, Rap. How did you get such piercin' insight into my lifestyle and basic preferences? You're right...a retainer comin' from you would not really "make my day", as the sayin' goes. It would not jiggle my icecubes, if ya know what I mean.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jul 12 - 09:07 AM

Problem is, whenever someone offers Chongo a retainer (the money kind, not the dental kind) they have to be wearing silk or nylon stocking so he can think about the sound the stockings make when that person crosses their long, shapely, legs (high heels are also a requirement). Then they have to take out a cigarette and put it between crimson lips and as he lights it for them they have to raise their eyes seductively.

Well, I've got some silk long johns for really cold weather but I usually wear heavy pants over them. I gave up smoking back in 1985, and I've never raised my glims seductively for anyone. What I do have is heat, and if a certain chuimp tees me off enough I'll cap him, whether he's someone's canny date or not.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 09 Jul 12 - 02:46 AM

If you lived in this town, you would never say that! ;-D Ook! Ook! Bribery is the essential enablin' factor in Chicago politics, and always has been. It's a sacred tradition here, along with graft, corruption, and conflict of interest. Then there's violence...a little toned down from the glory days of Prohibition, but still nothin' to sneeze at.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 11:56 PM

YEah, but it's a funny thing about reality--it doesn't take bribes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 11:08 PM

A two by four between the eyes? That kinda thing never fails to get my attention, Amos. I normally answer it with a burst of .44 or .45 calibre ammo, though, so I don't advise it as a good approach. If you wanta get my attention in a healthy way that won't cause yer friends and relatives much grief, it is better to address me as "Mr Chongo, sir", and state yer business in a clear and respectful manner.

Then there's money. Offer me a retainer of a few thousand dollars and you've got my undivided attention.

With the Obama and Romney campaigns runnin' real scared about the increasin' role of the APP in national politics, I expect to soon be offered much larger amounts than that from major corporate players, bankers, and other crooks. I'm talking hundreds of millions of dollars, not thousands. They will try and buy my loyalty, like they already done with certain others I could mention...

But from ordinary stiffs like you, a few thousand bucks is all I expect as a retainer and an investment in a better future. Hell, even a few hundred if it's near the end of the month...

Contact yer local APP office and contribute now.

- Chongo

p.s. We don't take peanuts. Bananas or mangos are okay. Money is even better.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 06:34 PM

A long weekend in the highlands of Arizona, mostly fixing Gramma's computer and getting h er Direct TV system running properly again. She's all back to battery and is a much happier lady than she was was before we arrived. Plus I finished reading two books and did a huge amount of driving over hill and over dale. Not that Dale.


It never ceases to amaze me to hear Chongo accuse others of making stuff up. The guy is 100% figment, and wouldn't know reality if it struck him between his shiny little eyes with a two-by-four. Which is not such a bad idea. It might get his attention, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 04:43 PM

I was busy bailing out the shit spam at my favorite organic gardening site, where I am a moderator. The spam last week was horrific - I guess those folks in China decided we must take the week off for the Fourth of July and not watch our websites. They piled on the spam and I spent several days not only removing that (30 minutes to get the July 4 stuff) but also tracking back and removing a thousand or more spam accounts. There are a lot more old ones, but this is to clean up the current activity and it's set so I can spot any new spam accounts instantly.

MOM was complaining last night that I had the light on late, doing all of this. Sorry about that. No, I won't put the computer desk in a closet or put a blanket over the top to keep the light under control. Maybe I'll duct tape MOM's door shut to keep light from coming around the cracks.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 03:47 PM

Looks like it's just me and gnu and Stilly around. Amos is off in Arizona or somewhere getting his vortex fixed, Eiseley's in jail again (aiding and abetting), LH's with Amos...ain't nobody around hardly to prevent Mom from running around, throwing tomatoes and setting off M-80s and generally raising Hell to new heights. Even Gluon's hiding under the back porch, munching on a Higg's Boson, to escape the heat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jul 12 - 06:16 AM

Yeah. She'd been in shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jul 12 - 10:52 PM

Dammit, Mom was down there cleaning tailless kittens! Who knows what she would have gotten up to if I had not happened along!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jul 12 - 11:36 AM

I spoke with LH recently and I assure you that he has not transmogrified into anything. He's just as he's always been; he even answered the phone with "Ook ook, ya flippin' bolthole, eh?"

As for Chongo's last post, I have certification from both a psychologist and a psychiatrist that I am not only as sane as anyone else, but am not a danger to myself or others. My intelligence was measured at "near genius" level and my social skills are such that I rarely slam either my face or another's into a plate of spaghetti.

Personally, I think that Chongo doth protest too much. But in these times no one places a stigma on such things and I think he would be a much stronger candidate if he'd just admit it. Oh sure, there are reactionaries everywhere, but I doubt that his presidential campaign would fail just because of what I've discovered.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Jul 12 - 12:05 AM

I think Chongo posts here more than Little Hawk these days. Has anyone seen LH in person lately, to be sure some transmogrification hasn't taken place?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 11:33 PM

Yer allegations are completely unfounded, Rap, and yer "sources" would be 100% impeachable...IF you HAD any real sources! Ook! Ook! ;-D I'm laughin' at the thought of yer so-called unimpeachable sources which are nothin' more than the ravin' ramblings of yer own unstable mind. You make things up. You plagiarize and fantasize wildly. Then you refer to yer insane fantasies as comin' from "unimpeachable sources". Look, buddy, call it what it is: bald-faced lying or complete mental incompetency. You oughta be ashamed of yerself. Yer momma oughta give you a good spankin' and send you to bed without a glass of milk for bein' such a liar. What you need at this point, pal, is a set of asbestos pants! ;-D Ook! Ook!

You say the onus is on me to prove that I am and was always male?

No, Roscoe. The onus is on you to prove that you are:

1. sane

and

2. not a complete dumbass!

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 05:45 PM

I am sure Lyndon's team will put it to good use! Hi, Mom! I am in the high deserts of Arizona in the Verde Valley visiting gramma. I find it exceeding dry and hot. I do not like this climate or altitude. But duty calls men into many hard places.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 12:59 PM

So I track down Chongo's background and I'm not believed even though the information comes from unimpeachable sources.

I'm turning this info over to the Romeny, Paul, Obama and other campaigns! Even Lyndon La Rouche!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 11:05 AM

Hey, c'mon...you know you love the chance to expound on various arcane subjects. That's why I asked you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jul 12 - 10:56 AM

Good Lard, the things I have to do around here because others won't do their own research! And me retired and all!

"The Prussian language really belongs not to the Germanic but to the Baltic group of Indoeuropean languages and is cognate with living Lithuanian and Latvian languages. The Baltic group of languages in its turn is closest to the Slavic group of languages (Czech, Serbian, Polish, Russian etc.). The latter, together with the Baltic group, are closest to the Germanic group of Indoeuropean (German, English, Swedish etc.). The Germanic languages are so-called centum-languages (cf. the word Engl. Hundred, Latin Centum), while the Baltic and Slavic languages are satem-languages (cf. Lith. Šimtas 'hundred', Polish Sto, Avestian Satæm). The Baltic languages in their turn are divided into Western (or Peripheral) Baltic (Prussian, extinct Yatvingian, Old Curonian etc.) and Eastern (or Central) Baltic (Lithuanian, Latvian). The first have retained e.g. an older diphthong ei on the place of the newer ie in the latter. On the other hand, Prussian shares with Latvian the whistling pronounciation of sibilants (s, z) against their hushing pronunciation in Lithuanian (š, ž), all of them coming from "centum" Indoeuropean *k, *g. Prussian is much more archaic than Eastern Baltic, although Lithuanian is much more archaic than Latvian."

Note that this is not "Old Prussian" (a misnomer), which became extinct as a spoken language in the 18th Century.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 11:16 PM

Prussian is a different language from German?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 09:04 PM

The paper can be found in the source cited. Yes, it had to be translated from Prussian to German (Dr. Schillet was Prussian and proud of his heritage as one of the last people who could speak, read and write Prussian) but microfilm of the Journal can be found in (mainly academic) libraries around the world.

Just as President Obama's birth announcement in the Honolulu "Advertiser" can be found in microfilms of the paper (again in libraries worldwide), which makes it impossible to fake the same can be said of this article.

The onus is on Chongo to prove he is and always was male. Research -- solid, down-and-dirty, brass tacks research -- shows otherwise and raises several moral and ethical questions.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 01:40 PM

Well, anyway, it gives us Chongo supporters plenty of scope for going into a frenzy of recreational outrage. ;-) For some people, that's all that's really required to keep them motivated and happy. Note the daily discourse on the political threads on Mudcat Cafe...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 01:29 PM

Of all the scurrilous politically-motivated and blatantly fabricated attacks launched upon Chongo Chimp by the shadowy subversives of the New World Order, these latest allegations of a supposed sex change in his childhood must rank among the most despicable ever. It is saddening to see our political process descending into this sort of depraved, unconscionable dishonesty and rumor-mongering. The question is, who is behind it? Obama's people? Romney's people? Big Louie's "people"?

(Big Louie is a gorilla. He wants to supplant Chongo as the APP candidate in 2012.)

It could be all of them! I wouldn't be surprised if it was.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 10:03 AM

What a wonderful world we live in, where careless fantasy can always fall back on the clearest of hard science, and vice-versa.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 09:23 AM

I suggest a DNA test. If Change-oh Chimp was originally male there will be an XY chromosome pair. XX -- and "he's" out of the closet, "his" posturing exposed for the p***s envy it obviously is.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 11:44 PM

See:

Schillet, Hans, et al.: "Studiert einer Schimpanse Familie Gruppe Mit ein Sexualität-Gewechselt Glied," Tagebuch des Primaten Studium Einführen über Ost Preußen. Gumbinnen: Die Einführen, Volumen XXI, Zahl 6.

Also Dr. Shillet's papers, which are found in the Institute's library (unfortunately these are not yet in digital format).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 11:04 PM

This is ridiculous. It's worse than some of the stuff I hear about Obama.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 06:17 PM

Research results:

Chongo is Pan troglodytes troglodytes. Records show clearly that birth occurred in the Western Congo; mother and father enjoyed a "consortship" (a one-and-one alliance) rather than the promiscuous sexual behavior common to nearly all chimpanzees. Chongo's father had an unusual brown pelfage -- not rare, but uncommon -- and his mother had the usual black. Chongo's parents had been under study for several years by the Dr. Hans Schillet (1897-1955) from the Östlich Preußen Einführen als Primaten Studium, as Dr. Schillet was interested in the brown/black couple's acceptance by the rest of the chimp group.

Chongo's parents were apparently accepted, but not well recognized, by the group. When his mother gave birth to twin girls the family was forcibly driven from the group and it was at this time that the father was killed (and eaten) by the dominant group members.

Dr. Schillet followed the mother and twins to the coastal area of Gabon, where they were (somewhat unwillingly) accepted by another group. Dr. Schillet reported that one of the twins became "attached" to a human near the town of Kango; this was a medical doctor who was working in a missionary hospital at the time. Because of signs given by the young chimp (e.g., self-mutilation of the genital area, male identification patterns) the surgeon performed what would now be called a "gender changing" operation on the chimp. After recovery the young chimp seemed much happier.

However, the change was definitely not accepted by their family group's new band. They were again driven out with force; this time the mother received a head laceration from a thrown stone but recovered. During her recovery it was noted that only the female groomed, fed, and brought water to the mother -- the transgendered male spent all of his time attempting coitus with any chimp or primate in the area.

Because of this behavior he was captured and sent to the Brookfield Zoo in Chicago, Illinois, for further study. He escaped and took on more and more human characteristics and now called himself "Chongo Chimp."

Meanwhile, back in Gabon his sister was driven to prostitute herself to other chimps to gain more and better food for her recovering mother (this sort of caring behavior is uncommon in chimps, although prostitution is not). She would also be seen attacking places where "Chongo" had especially enjoyed himself -- after she attacked the missionary doctor she was captured (with her mother) and sent by Dr. Schillet to the Östlich Preußen Einführen als Primaten Studium for further study. She would respond to the term "Chinga" by her mother, and after her mother's death from the wounds received she escaped. She was last reported in New York City.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 02:55 PM

Great idea! No spacesuit, no ship -- just Shame sitting in a chair.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 02:33 PM

Maybe Artixes and the boys will be kind enough to take Shane out there and give him a ringside view when it happens.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 02:03 PM

I plan to be about a parsec away, slightly elevated so I can see into the center of events. Hope I will be outside the sphere of turbulence...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 01:08 PM

Heh! Pretty good song there, Amos.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 12:03 PM

Hey Amos, do you have a ringside seat for the intra-galaxy slow-motion train wreck anticipated for next year?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 11:27 AM

Haul away and heave away, hard though it may be,
Get old Bobert's tractor out, from under yonder tree,
Heave and saw and lift and haul, until your bones are limp
And thank the stars above you that you're nothing but a Chimp!


Down on the Chongo river, boys, where the nights are long and sweet
They live on hemp and guava, and they dine on monkey meat
ANd every sailor comes to town, and every sailor's wife
Is on the hunt for chimpanzees, to take away their lives!

Haul away and heave away, hard though it may be,
Get old Bobert's tractor out, from under yonder tree,
Heave and saw and lift and haul, until your bones are limp
And thank the stars above you that you're nothing but a Chimp!


So all you little monkey boys, now listen to your mums
And don't you go a wandering, or follerin' the drums,
STay well within the uplands, kids, and do not play the imp.
Or you'll end up on a dinner plate, like that no-good Chongo Chimp!

Haul away and heave away, hard though it may be,
Get old Bobert's tractor out, from under yonder tree,
Heave and saw and lift and haul, until your bones are limp
And thank the stars above you that you're nothing but a Chimp!



Working Songs from Other Species 1956 edition, collected by Hilo Maxmin, Scasrsborough, New York.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 12:39 AM

Let Chongo get the tractor out from under the tree (and remove the trees that came down in front of and behind it). That'll keep him from messing with Bobert or pulling some scatological stunt.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 12:19 AM

Chinga and Chonga, twin sisters. Yes. I must do some research on this.

Oh, yeah. Another hundred.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 12:01 AM

Yeah, but not to help him clean up!!!

I think with his long arms and sinewy musculature he'd be almost as good as a 'phant in hauling off broken trees.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 11:53 PM

Chongo has offered to visit Bobert on numerous occasions, Stilly.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 11:39 PM

Put all of Chongo's energy to good use - send him to North Carolina to help Bobert clean up after the storm.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 11:38 PM

Whatever. Just be thankful that you got another chance to say "heinous". It's such a lovely sounding word. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 09:31 PM

IF so--a stunnign new hypothesis, Dr. R--it makes the subsequent abandonment even MORE heinous.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 07:13 PM

The National Geographic Society? I doubt they got the gender wrong. The evidence is in: Chongo was originally female, perhaps even (dare we even think this?) Chinga's twin sister!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 04:29 PM

Well, the point is that assuming that WAS Chongo before his sex change, his/her innocence is quite touching, but was clearly short-lived. This was before city ways and hard liquor addled his brain and corrupted his internal compass, and drove him to cruel acts such as abandoning his mother and sister to poverty.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 03:02 PM

So they got the gender wrong in the caption. A simple error that anyone might make.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 02:55 PM

That simian was poking at the camera shield with a stick. If it was a male...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 02:21 PM

Ha! That explains SO much!! She's a Calamity Jane!! :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 02:06 PM

A juvenile chimpanzee arrives at the termite nest with her mother.

Right there in the heading above the video.

Chongo -- Chinga's "sister."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 12:41 PM

Prove that allegation.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 09:51 AM

So, Chongo is transgendered, huh? The curious chimp in that film is female. It might be Chinga and her mother, but unless Chongooze had "the operation" quite young it ain't him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 09:37 AM

Sad shadows of our Mom still linger
ALong the wall behind the garden.
But her old sclerotic fingers
Fail her. God will never pardon
Those who for a real life seeking
Mother's grace and house abandon.
Into the world, their minds all creaking,
Seeking status without standing.
Come ye home, from busy cities
All your errors to confess
Rest upon her back porch settee
Home with Mom, and with BS.


Jennifer Cauldron Innards
Pathos in Rhyme, Perhaps
Dorothy Parker Memorial Insitute
New York, 1958


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jul 12 - 02:00 AM

Yeah, yeah, it was a cheetah all right. Chongo the CHeetah the Chimp. His mother died of a broken heart, and it is only thanks to Chinga's flexible torso that their mother dies in a comfortable bed instead of the flea-bitten cold-water dump where he left them.


A


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