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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 May 07 - 09:04 PM

The old trains don't have to be polluters, not anymore. I have it on the authority of someone who engineers trains (that is, designs them) that coal-fired steam could be used with little or no impact on the surrounding air, land, or water. But right now diesel is king because diesel was cheaper.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 May 07 - 02:55 PM

I have mixed feelings about those old trains. They're real polluters, for one thing.

I lived next door to a small historic train venture for a while. He finally went out of business when he pissed off enough neighbors and lost enough lawsuits that he couldn't continue. He used to run "excursions" from the next door proprerty but he provided no restrooms, so the customers would wander into our 10-acre yard to take care of business. And he'd play with his whistle late at night, just to hear it blow. I'd have to call at 11 and midnight and ask him to stop. Finally, my friend who owned the property sued to take the land under the tracks back from him. The Union Pacific railroad was never entitled to sell it when they stopped running their lines, they had an easement only, taken from the farm decades earlier. He had to move his toy three miles down the line to a different bit of track. Good riddance!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: JennyO
Date: 06 May 07 - 02:27 PM

SRS, it's true I had the last pinwheel number. Now I'm sitting here patiently spinning on my axis, waiting for the next one, which I don't think is going to happen till we get to 18081. The 18s will be a veritable feast of pinwheel numbers!

If I can watch Rapaire's video from beginning to end, which I did, I'm sure I can wait till 18081.

Actually, it wasn't all that hard watching the video, cos I love steam trains. My uncle, Harold Young, used to be Chief Mechanical Engineer of the NSW Railways, and was responsible for the design of the C38 series steam trains - one of its number, the 3801 is probably the best known and loved of all the steam trains here in NSW. It still does regular runs for the entertainment of the public here

It's pretty slow on the hills, as steam trains are, but on the flat it compares very favourably with modern trains. Now here's something you don't see every day!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 May 07 - 12:37 PM

I've been out back on the ladder, scaling dangerous heights to caulk the seams along the fascia boards, Mom. Very scary and brave and all that.   


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 May 07 - 12:25 PM

Now that I've unblocked my Yahoo mail cookies (it won't load if it can't save cookies) I'm going to go bake some bread then work in the yard before the next round of storms. I'm saving on water bills hand over fist this spring, but the cleanup is keeping me busy. Call if you need something, MOM. The boys seem to be out for the day.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 May 07 - 11:16 AM

Clever! MOM approves!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 May 07 - 10:32 AM

I have just listened to a fine CD by Andrew Calhoun, called "Phoenix Envy". I think it is a wonderful title. As a phrase it explains why more people don't post on the MOAB. It has nothing to do with the loading time or the overwhelming prospect of reading 17,000 posts. It is just resentment aagainst the endless spirit of renewal and refreshment which permeates our posts. Phoenix Envy, in short. Freud really missed a bet on that one.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 May 07 - 09:37 PM

844 arrives.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 May 07 - 03:20 PM

You got it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 May 07 - 01:31 PM

Sigh. Spinning Jenny?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 May 07 - 12:34 PM

I think JennyO had it last.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 May 07 - 10:54 AM

A wonder of who, and the who is the winner
Who has the fine pin for Stilly's new spinner
For the center of the spinner, a pin is the thing
Oh, pine for a pin for the spinner!

A spinner's not spittle unless it can spin
ANd spinning's sporadic without such a pin,
The spinner's pin's pintle is perfect and wins
All the sparks from a spilling spin winner.

All winter no spinner to Stilly was spawned
So scarce were good spinners. and pins were all gone
So spare her a pintle, a punt or a pin,
Spry spinning with pins in, oh, spin,. Stilly, spin!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 May 07 - 12:34 AM

I didn't notice that I landed on a palindrome last time. 17371. Who has the pin for the spinner?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:44 PM

Freds have depressive effect on Mom's nervous system. Maybe she should get some of Rapaire's new meds.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 May 07 - 03:48 PM

Geez, MOM, what are you doing down here in the basement, with that goat/wife thread and others on top of you? Lets get you cleaned up and in the fresh air. You'll feel better.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 May 07 - 09:12 AM

I think their digestiveprocesses are annual. So they'll be well aboard before the spark reaches the powder room.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 May 07 - 11:26 PM

Yeah, but think twice, Amos. With the chemical content of guano, do you suppose when freds fart it will be like gunpowder going off? Figure a way to get that stuff to the mother ship where it will do the most harm good.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 07 - 10:37 PM

The best, freds, the absolute best. Nothing in the universe to match the tangy flavor and full bodied satisfaction of a whole attic full of bat guano.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,freds
Date: 03 May 07 - 09:14 PM

This guano, is it good to eat? We are in sore need of protein at the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 May 07 - 04:23 PM

That must be one helluva big attic!

They need to be careful--histoplasmosis is a nasty airborne illness that comes from bat and bird guano. My ex caught it after he cleaned up a dead bat in Mammoth Cave on the tour route. He was sick for a couple of months.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:50 PM

Guano tomorra!
Oh, baby, guano, tomorra!
Guano tomorrrrrra!
Oh, baby, guano tomorrra!

I bought a house in the suburbs
Thinking my wife would be happy
I bought a house in the suburbs
To make my wife and kids happy!
But they were much disappointed,
To find the attic all crappy!

Guano tomorrow!
Oh, baby, guano tomorrow!
Guano tomoorrrrrrow!
Oh, baby Guano TOmorrow.

(Remainder left as an execise for the student).....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:30 PM

that *is* one of the problems with bats in your attic (or belfry for that matter) but more importantly, bats carry rabies - and the health department makes you jump through all kinds of hoops If you admit to having bats.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:28 PM

Amos, I am SICK AND TIRED of your accusations that I don't provide enough BS here! To that I can only say, BAT SHIT! So, here:

BALLSTON SPA, N.Y. (AP) -- An upstate New York couple didn't think a few bats in the attic were much of a problem when they were buying a house last summer.

Months later, they found out how wrong they were when they discovered more than a ton and a half of bat droppings up there.

Nick LaBoda and Jenna Caputo say a home inspector informed them about the bats. They called an exterminator, who told them to wait a while before removing the bats because the babies were too young to fly.

Then they forgot about the bats until they smelled a foul odor in January. When they checked the attic, they found dead bats and piles of guano.

An exterminator says hundreds of bats had been living in the attic, leaving behind 3,500 pounds of droppings.

It cost $25,000 to clean up the mess, and the couple's insurance company wouldn't cover it. They're fighting it out in court.


Perhaps MMario would like to comment?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 May 07 - 10:22 AM

the crick behind my parents house rose twice a day. and it rose a lot higher at full and new moons. and even higher then that when there was a storm surge.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 07 - 10:16 AM

This brings us to a serious fork in the road; and if you've ever tried to have a conversation with a serous fork, you know it is not a laughing matter.

For centuries, now, we have been appending to our best plans and firmest agreements the concept that we would see them come true "God willin' an' the creek don't rise". The phrase serves similarly to the upiquitous tag-lineof the Muslim world, where even an agreement to meet for breakfast must have Insh'allah tacked on -- if God wills it -- as the ultimate disclaimer of responsibililty.

But now, we have (as I said) a serious parting of ways, as our little prayer has now left the conditional mode and gone from the subjunctive to the simply declarative: THe creek has riz. Stilly makes this abundantly clear, and brings sharply to view that it has even happened before, but we ignored it. This sort of blissful linguistic self-deceit is no longer an option.

So NOW what do we do?

I think we might do well to fall back on "come hell or high water", a qualifier from a more rugged age when folks got done what they meant to do, or died trying. (I don't believe the Arab world has an equivalent, but since they weren't bettiing on the creek anyway, this is immaterial).

Wouldn't that add some color to our pastel lives?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 May 07 - 09:15 AM

Stilly, the answer is simple: sandbags. Sandbags and 2x4s and Visqueen.

You build a strong frame of 2x4s along your creek's edge, back a bit so the water can rise a little. Staple the visqueen to the frame on the creekside, leaving about three feet loose at the bottom. Put sandbags (fill them only about 2/3 full so they'll settle in among themselves well) on this ground/visqueen overlap and to help reinforce the other side of the frame.

It helps to have duct tape handy. Duct tape is ALWAYS handy to have around.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 May 07 - 01:49 AM

Sorry I wasn't around earlier, MOM. It rained and flash-flooded AGAIN this evening. The creek has been out of its banks and into the yard twice in as many weeks. I didn't have to mop up as much water in front of the fireplace this time.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 07 - 09:30 PM

Much better!! :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 May 07 - 09:10 PM

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Wondering who the next Pope will be, I peeked. It will be Satan disguised as John Paul II. After that I wasn't interested in monatomic gold with indium.

Besides, I gave up alchemy when I found out that to make lead into gold you need a nukler selerator, as our Prez would say.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 07 - 01:53 PM

In your effort to be famous,
Pray, Rapaire, try not to shame us!
Nor succumb to mental panic,
Mob pronouncements schizophranic,
Darkling spells of tripe and lizard
In some pot bought from some wizard,
Rumours sly,assertions bawdy,
Overdoses of hot toddy,
Call which haul the whole damn tribe in,
Games with pot, or psilocybin,
Hashish chants or chicken-slaughters
Or evil rites from o'er the waters.
Keep your temper, and your view
On notions more befitting you!

Mom


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 07 - 10:10 AM

Now he's not only got MPD, but he's paranoid and insists he is being followed around by toidies.

Dear God, look down on Our Friend Rapaire, and heal his sight that he may see, his feet that he may smell, and his nose that he may run. And ease him of his stress and his sorrow that he may have the courage to again become one self, as We your servants really like it better.


Amen.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 May 07 - 01:36 AM

Heads up!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:57 PM

You betcha! We have many heads in Our mansion so that We are never far from a "necessary." Some of them even follow Us around.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:50 PM

Well, one of you does. Or is this sort of a polydent arrangement where one handle is shared by multiple identities?

Interesting thought -- is it possible to be schizo in cyberspace? Since you usually type one message at a time, obviosu you're serial rather than parallely multiple.

(he can too!! He could bargew in on himself within one post!!)

(Oh, shutup -- don't interrupt. You know I hate that....)

(You two better calm down and let ME finish this post....)

In any case, Rapaire's obsession with the first person plural means that even his component identities are so fractured they each think they are many. Like something out of the New Testament:

"In my father's head are many mansions; and in my father's mansion are many heads. And never the twain shall meet."

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:40 PM

We post here, don't We?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:30 PM

Can Divinity create a task so trivial that even He cannot be bothered to do it?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:10 PM

Amos, them there trimers -- I got a feelin' that they're just some sorta quantum menage a trois or something. Them neutered particles are lookin' for a good time, so they put a quantum ad in a quantum personals column. Probly somethin' like

"SNP would like to meet two other SNPs for frigid good time. No hotties need apply."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 07 - 10:04 PM

We created Bode, and Bode created Cheech Wizard, and We are pleased with Cheech Wizard, the creation of Our creation. (We would put the - over the "e" in Bode but We can't be bothered to do so right now.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 09:43 PM

Rapaire meets the Forest Creatures and persuades them of his Divinity...well, almost...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 08:28 PM

Jeez, Mom, are you okay? Worried about him? Why on earth would you be worried about him if he can get a cushy job in a Think Tank promiting his new Theory of Management By Multiple Viewpoints? It's a slam-dunk, I'm rellin' ya!!



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 06:02 PM

Hey Mom!! I discovered Rapaire's REAL problem -- he's one of them Efimov trimers, and physicists have been trying to track him down for years!! Good thing we figgered it out. This Deistic We business was gonna get him committed to a loony bin, but now he can go to a think-tank instead! YAAAY!!!

"THE EFIMOV EFFECT: THREE*S COMPANY, TWO'S A CROWD. At the April APS
meeting in Jacksonville, physicists discussed the recent observations of
the Efimov effect, a purely quantum phenomenon whereby two particles
such as neutral atoms which ordinarily do not interact strongly with one
another join together with a third atom under the right conditions. The
trio can then form an infinite number of configurations, or put another
way, an infinite number of "bound states" that hold the atoms together.

The effect was first predicted around 1970 by a physicist named Vitaly
Efimov, then a Ph.D. candidate at the time, but was originally
considered "too strange to be true," according to the University of
Colorado*s Chris Greene, in part because the atoms would abruptly
switch from being standoffish to becoming stuck-together Siamese
Triplets at remarkably long distances from one another (approximately
500-10,000 times the size of a hydrogen atom in the case of neutral
atoms). For decades, experimenters tried in vain to create these
three-particle systems (which came to be known as "Efimov trimers").
In 1999, Greene and his collaborators Brett Esry and Jim Burke
predicted that gases of ultracold atoms might provide the right
conditions for creating the three-particle state. In 2005, a research
team led by Rudi Grimm of the University of Innsbruck in Austria finally
confirmed the Efimov state in an ultracold gas of cesium cooled to just
10 nanokelvin.

How do the neutral atoms attract one another in the first place? At
small distances, ordinary chemical bonding mechanisms apply, but at the
vast distances relevant to the Efimov effect, it is mainly through the
van der Waals effect, in which rearrangements of electrical charge in
one atom (forming an "electric dipole") create electric fields that can
induce dipoles in, and thereby attract, neighboring atoms. The
observation of the Efimov effect is a coup for being able to study the
rich quantum physics between three particles.

The effect can conceivably occur in nucleons or molecules (and any
object governed by quantum mechanics). However, it will likely be
harder to observe in those systems because physicists cannot alter the
strengths of interactions between the constituent particles as easily as
they can in ultracold atom gases (through their "Feshbach resonances").
But the effect could provide insights on such systems as the triton, a
nucleon with one proton and two neutrons, in addition to the BCS-BEC
crossover, in which atoms switch from forming weakly bound Cooper pairs
to entering a single collective quantum state.

(See also article by Charles Day, Physics Today, April 2006, Esry et al, Phys. Rev. Lett, 30
August 1999, and Kraemer et al., Nature, 16 March 2006)."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 07 - 05:03 PM

We speak in the Deitic Singular. Similar to the "Imperial We" but referring to Ourself as Sole and Only Deity.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 May 07 - 04:34 PM

but I distinctly recall seeing you with a hat, and not noticing a point at all!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 04:33 PM

BB, you are confusing me with the Tall Grays. I am not one of them. I am a Short Gray. Do not, I pray, be insulting.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:47 PM

but when he wears a hat no-one notices it...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:42 PM

you do have a point there, Amos!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:38 PM

Well, yeah, just so, MM....but which species???


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:31 PM

just use mob psychology. should work.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:20 PM

Ummm...excuse me, Narcissus...but, exactly how many of your myriad personalities, all of them cracked as a cow's horn, are you including in this "We" proposition? I just want to know the size of the mob I am speaking of, here, you understand. it makes a difference in, um, which psychology should be applied, if you see my point.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 07 - 03:07 PM

We are pleased that you are pleased, and We know that you will be pleased that We are pleased with your pleasure.


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