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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 11:02 AM

The dodgy frameshifting which I have complained about has been characterized more elegantly than I could ever do in this hitherto unpublished Essay by Mark Twain about Interviews. Excellent read.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 09:43 AM

..but not really a potty animal...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 01:01 AM

He's a bit potty.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 09:00 PM

That should be a plural--pots. He may also be going to pot, but that's his business. Or maybe his business is pots, I forget...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 08:57 PM

And speaking of the missing, where the hell is Bee-Dubya-Ell? Don't tell me he's gone to pot!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 07:22 PM

You should always credit your friends when yu borrow quotes from them, Rapaire. Tsk.


Naw, LH wouldn't come--he was afeared the State was going to fall off into the ocean and didn't want to risk leaving his dachshund...



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 06:04 PM

No, all of the quotes are from Brigit Hitler's brother-in-law.

As for Little Hawk, I thought he was at your place.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 03:09 PM

Besides, the reference you cite makes it very clear that the whole algorithm depends on your intelligent use of POS tags, which would be logically impossible here, since your entire thesis is a POS.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 02:47 PM

My goodness!! You have a book full of silly-ass quotes.

The promulgation of a false idea, no matter how succinct, does not bring about clarity, sir. You are confusing communication with idle semantic meandering and hair-splitting.

Intentional obfuscation is a fine art, but when it is disguised under the false colors of genuine communication it becomes a betrayal of the spirit. It undermines th very effort of the mind to optimize survival in all its gaily-colored theaters. Thus, it is beneath you.

BTW, what has become of our friend and bantering companion Little Hawk?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 02:20 PM

So clarity is good and not-clarity is evil?

"Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless."

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."

"Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice."

"Struggle is the father of all things. It is not by the principles of humanity that man lives or is able to preserve himself above the animal world, but solely by means of the most brutal struggle."

"The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence."

"Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction."

Those quotations seem pretty clear and therefore they are good.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:25 PM

I am tempted to write a scathingly sarcastic ditty, call;ed perhaps, "The Ballad of the Reframer".

My lover's a reframer,
There are none like him today,
He could spin your words so fast that you
Would take back what you say.

He could make Jesus Christ sound sinful,
He'd make Hera out of Jove!
He could out twist Bill Cinton, sir,
And out dance Karl Rove!

He'd make liberals sound psycho,
Make God foreswear his Name,
But he'd never fight or argue,
He would simply flip the frame.

He never flinched from conscience, sir,
He never blanched from shame,
He'd take money from Ann Coulter
And brought Andrew Briebert fame.

...


Then I have to add a couple of nasty verses about his inevitable comeuppance and the triumph of Clarity over evil...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 01:03 PM

My sins...yes...oh, the memories. I remember this one sin...I could have sworn the cop asked me if I knew how fast I was going...or making chlorine, nitrogen trioxide and hydrazine in the basement while doing a chemistry experiment...or the young lady...or the other young lady...or the bevy of young ladies at the party who...yes, my sins were very, very taxing indeed and the hangovers were the lest of the punishments doled out. Ah, the memories of a misspent youth! What pleasure they bring when we are older, and what a gas* teaching them to the young. I think I'll go sit in the porch swing and drink a little lemonade and reminisce on my sins and try to figure out a better way to do them when I'm reincarnated.




*See chemistry experiment, above.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 12:05 PM

It is not that you do not know your syntax, but that you ignore the tax of your sins.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:16 AM

Of COURSE I input the referants! Do you take me for some lazy slob who doesn't know his syntax from his sin tax?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:46 AM

You are simply out of your tree, sir; and your depth, at the same time. What contortions!!

You probably left all the referents out of the input, I expect, knowing full well that by adulterating context, you can alter the whole weight of a communication. This is not clever. It is, however, occasionally obnoxious.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 06:14 PM

Amos, I treed your last posting in an attempt to determine the linguistic content thereof.

There wasn't any.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 04:48 PM

Or with specificity, or precision, or intentionality, or with semantic gobbledygook.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 03:14 PM

Do not confuse ambiguity with lack of clarity.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 01:28 PM

No, he borrowed an old .38 police revolver from my other brother, who then sold it to me, and I sold it back to him and I think he gave it to one of his kids a couple weeks ago, so it's still in the family. It wasn't loaded when it was used on stage, but if he'd landed on it he could have received a nasty bruise.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 01:00 PM

I love the old Dutch tile work in that kitchen they created for the movie. And that window seat - such a generous space!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 25 Jul 10 - 12:34 AM

CHARGE!!!!!

The first time I met one of my librarians, I was attending a performance of Arsenic and Old Lace in which she was the Sweet Young Thing. Very good play!

Did you lend your sword to your brother, Rapaire?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 10:31 PM

My youngest brother played the Irish cop in that. As he was supposed to be charging up the staircase he missed a step and slid halfway back down. The audience thought it was part of the show, so he bowed and did it again -- without slipping.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 10:05 PM

"Here's ten dollars. Go out and haunt yourselves a hotel."

They're playing Arsenic and Old Lace on my local PBS station.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 07:32 PM

Wal, if you get your just deserts, paddle your little birchbark down to San-Diego-by-the-Sea and I'll shout you to a beer.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 04:59 PM

Ah, we're already high desert country here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 04:48 PM

Actually, if I understand the dynamics, the Great Climate Change will cause everything west of me to fall into the sea, while driving Idahar and nearby regions into desert-hood.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 04:43 PM

Folks in Idaho don't talk much about it, but we can shovel shit with the best of 'em. No sir, we don't talk about it, we just do it. In fact, the State motto, "Esto perpetua", means "Let it be eternal" and they were talking about shoveling shit when they made that up, too.

Now you take California's motto, "Eureka!" That's Greek for "I have found it!" and was first shouted by Archimedes when he was running around town naked. So you have Californians bragging about finding some shit but folks in Idaho actually doing the work.

But it is no matter. Global Worming is going to flood California and give Idaho beachfront property, probably just outside of Pocatello. And when Amos kayaks up I'll give him a cold beer and a warm welcome because Idaho people are known for their sympathy and care of the less fortunate, the miserable, the down-and-out, and SoCalians.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 04:30 PM

Yer not stooping to the task, A. Or stepping into it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 03:11 PM

Are you one of those "real" men who would rather sit at your screen and brag than help a lady shovel dog poop in the rain? I thought as much.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 01:27 PM

Amos, you could visit me in Texas and put the kayak in my creek. It's at the bottom of the back yard. You can't travel far, but there's enough water to float a boat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 01:18 PM

It's NEVER too cloudy to go kayaking in Idaho! In fact, you can kayak all year 'round: in the winter you just put runners on your kayak and try not to do any rolls. I'd bet anything that ol' Amos has never been kayaking in the blizzard, or when the temperature was -20F, or in a survival suit. These are experiences enjoyed only by a select few adventurers, REAL men and women who live Life to the fullest, who grab Enjoyment and throttle the hell out of it. In short, THESE are Idahoans...Idahoers...people who live in Idaho.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 01:02 PM

Sure thing, Still. It's too cloudy to go kayaking.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 10:42 AM

It rained nearly 2 inches yesterday afternoon, so MOM is out trying to get the dog poop scooped before it gets too hot out there. One of you boys go help her, would you?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 09:49 AM

Deflect, alter, deggrade, twist, deform....you are a man of a thousand talents, sir!



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 09:36 AM

Yes, I agree. Amos really needs a hobby. Perhaps philately or numismatics or wandering around the streets examining random pieces of trash while muttering to himself.

("See our friend the stamp collector around?" "Nope, I haven't see Phil lately.")


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 11:19 PM

Methinks someone has too much time on his hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 09:12 PM

Amos, I shall be sure that in the future those who read what I post have a clear understanding of what I meant to say.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 06:59 PM

Nay, sir, I shall not. I shall bring a cigar to your shabby schoolhouse and burn it to the ground in the name of bright understanding and live communication.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 06:49 PM

A guy was selling bags of tamales in the Supermercado Winco parking lot today. I passed up the opportunity, even though I've always like tamales. Schullian's Grocery, back in the day, used to make the best I've ever eaten. Schullian's -- a good German name!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 06:44 PM

Just for you, Stilly, tamales de pollo.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 06:39 PM

Amos, you will put your nose in this forked stick, put this dunce cap on your head, and go sit in the corner the rest of the day!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 06:31 PM

Pollo, please. Gracias!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 04:08 PM

YEs, I should have indicated that quote came from WIkipedia.

As for your flibbertygibbet response, pox on your alteration of my words and meaning. The joy of learning is not lessened because you do not play your little school-master games, sir. The delight of sharing discoveries is richer by far than the somewhat sadistic pleasure of mystifying people and making them scramble for information you are witholding from them. Fie on your poxy ways.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 04:07 PM

The Tamale Lady just stopped by. Now I don't have to cook dinner tonight! MOM, would you like pollo o puerca?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 01:56 PM

Don't you think, Amos, that you should cite Wikipedia?

Everyone who wants to experience the joy and thrill of learning, please raise your hands. Those who, like Amos, do not wish to do so may continue sitting on their hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 11:57 AM

"The Prince of Wales's feathers is the heraldic badge of the Prince of Wales. It consists of three white feathers emerging from a gold coronet. A ribbon below the coronet bears the motto Ich dien (German for "I serve", a contraction of ich diene = ich dien' ). As well as being used in royal heraldry, the badge is sometimes used to symbolise Wales, particularly in Welsh rugby union and Welsh rugby league; however, its use as such is controversial and rejected by some Welsh nationalists as a symbol of the British monarchy rather than Wales.
A painted carving on the main gate of Oriel College, Oxford depicting the emblem of the Prince of WalesThe badge has no connection with the native Princes of Wales. It is thought to have originated with Edward, the Black Prince, the eldest son of Edward III of England. According to legend, the Black Prince obtained the arms from the blind John I of Bohemia, against whom he fought in the Battle of Crécy in 1346. After the battle, the prince went to the body of the dead king (whom he admired for his bravery) and took his helmet lined with ostrich feathers. The feathers and the dead king's motto made up the prince's new badge and came to be used by subsequent Princes of Wales
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 11:51 AM

Rapaire:

I am glad to hear your explanation for what I have hitherto conceived to be merely brutal antisocial showing off. And although I suspect your explation is in large part pure rationalization for a bad habit, I applaud that you undertook to at least come up with something approximationg a rational syntax. However, I maintain that in showering your audience intentionally with globs of relative mystery and obscurity, you are not communicating with them, but manipulating them; and these difference is even underscored by your explanation.

It would be more help, rather than betraying the use of a communication line to transmit anti-communication, to inform and educate. Thus, bringing about understanding as a more direct result of your own communication rather than essentially slamming people for not understanding. No-one, even Thee, is of such beadth and depth of exposure and thought as to have no missing data on the world. Why make this a condition of manipulation, inferiority, or punitive scolding? Be of more help and you will be more helpful.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:50 AM

Now thirty-six and seven posts
Have graced these hallowed halls.
A lot of thought, a lot of laughs,
And lots and lots of balls.
Outrageous notions, fast and free
Have graced us day by day,
Now, let us carry on for Mom
Unto the next of Kay.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:33 AM

There Isn't Time! by Eleanor Farjeon

            There isn't time, there isn't time
            To do the things I want to do,
            With all the mountain-tops to climb,
            And all the woods to wander through,
            And all the seas to sail upon,
            And everywhere there is to go,
            And all the people, every one
            Who lives upon the earth, to know.
            There's only time, there's only time
            To know a few, and do a few,
            And then sit down and make a rhyme
            About the rest I want to do.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:21 AM

Do you know everyone?


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