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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 May 08 - 11:21 PM

Oh, by all means, have them all wearing their arms outside their pants.

I am sure the Constabulary will approve whole-heartedly.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 May 08 - 10:09 PM

I'll be at the Capitol Hotel, Grafton Street.

By the way, have I mentioned the Library Pistol Team we've started?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 May 08 - 04:50 PM

Damn, Janie, not only scones, but Dani, Jacqui, Kendall...you certainly are wallowing in richesse!!

Say, why don't we ALL go to Dublin, and harass Rapaire? We could throw Guinness on him and say nasty things in Gaelic.

Sounds like top-drawer sport to me!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 May 08 - 03:11 PM

Greatness is in the mouth of the beholder, I allus sez.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 May 08 - 12:23 PM

Funny how you add a little more sugar and milk or cream and the lowly baking powder biscuit becomes the elegant scone. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 May 08 - 09:03 AM

Gonna have hot biscuits for breakfast.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 08 - 11:38 PM

Nothing like warm scones of a cool Sunday morning in the Spring. Isn't that so?



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 03 May 08 - 10:19 PM

Hi Mom! I broke out of mundaneness for a little while this evening at a lovely pot luck and song circle at Dani's in celebration of the arrival of Mr. & Mrs. Morse of Maine for a visit to our little town here in the sweet, sunny south. Met Mudcatter Abby Sales, and visited with new and old friends. Nary a legionaire in the bunch, either.

Chicken and spicy sausages were grilled, salads were tossed, strawberries over scones were served, banjos and guitars were picked, though not any noses, at least not in my presence. Lemonade, iced tea, and assorted spirits were imbibed.

Home to more 'music' in the form of "Guitar Hero" being played by Sum Yung Sun and his bud who is here for a sleep-over.

Now I return me to my regularly scheduled mundaneness of finding sheets to make a pallet for the friend and clean up the kitchen so I don't have to face it in the morning.

I made extra scones, Mom, so the kids and you could have them with breakfast in the morning.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 May 08 - 06:50 PM

Actually, the cops had seen me driving down the street and phoned to a car that had passed just seconds earlier. It was really kinda funny.

My car survived the golf ball, windshield and everything intact except for the driver's equilibrium.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 08 - 06:22 PM

Sounds like it was a wasted and hazardous trip. Hope your insurance will get you a new windshield.

But it won't get you a new police force.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 May 08 - 05:46 PM

Among other things, I was driving out to dispose of hazardous household waste (mostly dead batteries) and when passing the golf course my windshield (windscreen in the UK) was smacked by a golf ball. There was no damage to the car, other than cleaning the driver's seat.

The cops had earlier stopped me and told me I was wanted at a certain address. When I got there the Chief of Police and the County Sheriff were waiting. No Mom, this was a Good Thing and it has to do with the Library and team building and stuff like that. But they didn't need to put out an APB -- they could have called the Library and had them call me! I guess top cops just want to have fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 May 08 - 02:12 PM

This, of course, is great wisdom, to be salivated over and ruminated upon.

One thing it implies is that those things which CAN be fucked with are neither real nor aboriginal.

This includes Alice Mullins, from 1966, who insisted on being fucked with. and it also implies that Hillary Clinton is also unreal, or unaboriginal, or both.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 May 08 - 10:05 AM

This we should all remember.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 08 - 11:03 PM

So intoned the great and deathless Bee Dubya Ell. This I remember.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 May 08 - 10:20 PM

Sigh. Perhaps Amos will remember...perhaps.

So soon they forget, Mom.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 May 08 - 09:58 PM

That one certainly whipped my head right around, Rap. And I don't see what you're getting on about either.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 May 08 - 09:57 PM

I answered your question in another thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 08 - 09:54 PM

Yeah? So why do we get thirsty? Got an answer for that, smart guy? Hmmm?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 May 08 - 09:52 PM

How soon, how very soon, they forget....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 08 - 06:28 PM

What the heck are you on, Rapaire???

If we're going to start engaging in complete non-sequitors, I have a few good ones of my own.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 May 08 - 05:14 PM

 For what is real, and what is
aboriginal, cannot be fucked with.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 May 08 - 01:10 PM

You should run for Mayor of Orillia, Amos! Mundaneness is the credo of this town, and I think you would go far with that as your campaign song.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 08 - 01:02 PM

Mundaneness makes the world go 'round,
The world go 'round,
The world go 'round.
Mundaneness makes the world go 'round
And everyone knows 'tis so.

Every body SINGGG!


Mundaneness makes the world go 'round
The world go 'round,
The world go 'round.
Mundaneness makes the world go 'round
And everyone knows 'tis so.


OHHHHH!!!!

Mundaneness makes the world go 'round
The world go 'round,
The world go 'round.
Mundaneness makes the world go 'round
And everyone knows 'tis so.

ONE MORE TIME!

Mundaneness makes the world go 'round
The world go 'round,
The world go 'round.
Mundaneness makes the world go 'round
And everyone knows 'tis so.

(Applause, swooning, roars, whistles, teenie-screams, etc.)

(Excerpted from the unreleased recordings of Amos at Carnegie Hall, Columbia Records Unpublished Contemporaries Collection, 1966)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 May 08 - 08:56 AM

I rely upon a thing called a "swatter." But then I don't have dogs.

There was a health worker visiting some of the farms in the backcountry here, trying to convince the hidebound old ranchers that some of the "modern" advances were good ideas. One in particular was adamant about window screens -- ABSOLUTELY NOT! Too expensive and besides, his daddy didn't need 'em and his granddaddy didn't and you know the sort of person. Told her all he needed was to sprinkle a little lime in the outhouse now and then and the fly problem was solved.

Couple months later the health worker dropped by and found the house replete with screens: window screens, screen doors, even screens over the vents in the eaves and in the attic. She was stunned, and asked the old boy what had converted him him. He hemmed and hawed around and find said, "Well, there wuz these white footprints on ma food."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 May 08 - 11:39 PM

I sprinkle brewer's yeast in the dry dog food in the summer to help with the fly problem, and I don't know if it works but they LOVE brewer's yeast. I put up the baggie yesterday. I'd been seeing flies on Cinnamon each time I looked out, but every time I looked today when she was on the porch there weren't any flies on her.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 01 May 08 - 11:25 PM

Pardon the mundane post and habitual lack of wit, what kind of shape would the world be in if some of us didn't actively practice the art of mundaness, eh?

Re: baggies of water and flies, a couple of restaurants in my area have starting doing this and swear by it. However, they just started doing it a month or so ago, and fly season is not fully upon us yet.

One of them had hand-printed a little card with an explanation, and it was similar to this explanation..

Let us know if it seems to help, Stilly.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 08 - 10:51 PM

Agreed, Rapaire, it's probably a number of different factors. The reading I've done lately makes me doubt that CO2 is the major one among those factors, though...or even a major one...and it also makes me doubt that global warming is anything more than a cyclical natural event which has occurred repeatedly for millions of years, in between very long glacial periods, and without any contribution from human industrial activity.

Therefore I think we are being scammed at the moment by the global warming scare.

I'm not too worried about global warming, frankly. What does worry me a great deal is the massive deforestation that is occurring, for one and the loss of arable land for another, and the loss of pure drinking water sources, and the possibility of global cooling. We can afford to be in a warm period. Warm periods are good for almost every form of life on this planet. We cannot afford to go into another 100,000 year long ice age.

However, we couldn't stop that if it started again, no matter how much CO2 we pumped into the atmosphere, so I guess there's really little point in my worrying about it. It's beyond our control.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 08 - 10:04 PM

I myself think that the increase in global temperatures are a caused by a combination of things, from cow farts to increased sun activity. To say that just one thing is at fault is not science.

"I drank scotch and water and got drunk. I drank bourbon and water and got drunk. I drank rye and water and got drunk. So I gave up water." It might be logic, but it's not science.

Actually, I hope that there IS global warming. I'd love to see the blue Pacific waves lapping gently at the beach surrounding Pocatello.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 08 - 08:46 PM

Here's an interesting thing I came across in my reading, Amos. It seems that global warming itself tends to cause an increase in the buildup up CO2 in the atmosphere through natural processes.

Thus, rather than the CO2 increase leading the warming, it may well be the other way around.

I am not saying CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. It is. And it contributes some to planetary warming. But what I am saying is that planetary warming phases themselves appear to cause more natural release of CO2, and that the part the CO2 plays in the process regarding increasing overall warming is quite small...and not the significant factor in starting off a global warming phase, which is more likely started off and basically governed by the changing flows of energy between the sun and the Earth.

More release of CO2 encourages the growth of plants. Increased vegetation in time reduces the CO2. So it's a self-balancing system, as long as plants are allowed to flourish over vast areas.

Hower, we ARE most definitely doing damage to the planet by cutting down our old growth forests, such as in the Amazon, and that's a huge problem. It leads to the ruination of land, desertification, destruction of many plants and animals, and so on. But this is another issue quite apart from CO2 and global warming.

Remember: the primary greenhouse gas is water vapor! So if you want to reduce greenhouse gases...stop watering your lawn!!!!! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 08 - 08:23 PM

The fact that the CO2 concentrations ramp up in [patterns precisely matching this "warming phase" is suggestive that the greenhouse-gas model correlates with the facts.

But I shall peruse your pages, and thanks for the informations.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 08 - 07:53 PM

Here you go, Amos...

Global warming and cooling phases...

Lots of good information. Read and enjoy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 08 - 07:38 PM

I'm not saying that we aren't in a warming phase right now, Amos. I'm saying that it's due to the sun pouring more energy onto planet Earth...the sun being in a more active phase in recent times...and that it has very little to do with human affairs at all.

I'm saying that the "crisis" we are being presented with in the media is mostly hype...hype aimed at some political objective, I'm not sure what. And it's fashionable right now, and a lot of people are making a lot of money by jumping on that bandwagon. And if you are in the field of research and you oppose fashion you run a real risk of: ridicule...loss of work...and losing your sources of funding.

The Earth has been through many of these warming phases before, long before the industrial revolution occurred. It has been through at least one significant cooling phase during the industrial revolution. It survived all of them quite nicely.

The only thing we really have to fear is the end of this overall warm phase that we've been in for about the last 10,000 years...and the onset of another lengthy ice age. If that were to occur, then our civilization would be very heavily damaged by it.

Do you know that in the medieval warm period Greenland was so warm that the Vikings settled there and were growing crops? The planet is clearly quite a bit cooler now. You can't grow crops in Greenland these days. What made the planet so warm when the Vikings were in their heyday? There was no industrial revolution happening at that time.

I'll tell you what did...the sun did. It was in a more active phase at that time, and the Earth was warmer.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 08 - 06:26 PM

The temperatures are the temperatures, LH. One thing that is new is the discovery of the Niiler striations which may indicate the ocean systems are scrubbing more CO2 out of the atmosphere than was previously predicted.

But I would like to know what data ou have been reviewing that has changed your mind. I'd love to get over global warming because something I read on the MOAB made it all okay!!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 08 - 05:23 PM

Amos, I am brushing up on the science, and that's why my opinion has changed radically about (manmade) global warming. For the last 2 or 3 years I was an enthusiastic believer in Al Gore's entire position on the matter and he was my hero. I loved the movie "An Inconvenient Truth". I wondered how such a great guy could possibly have NOT become president.

I am now beginning to have serious doubts about the manmade global warming disaster theory, due to a number of articles I have read by scientists who suggest that it is Al Gore who needs to brush up on the science. ;-)

Now the fact is, 99.99% of the people (the general public, I mean) who have an opinion on manmade global warming are merely repeating...unquestioningly parroting and repeating...what they have heard in the mainstream media about it, and the mainstream media have been massively pushing the disaster story of manmade global warming.

The congregation is responding predictably, as they always do, and simply parroting whatever they are told to believe.

I'm beginning not to believe it anymore, that's all. You're welcome to your opinion. 2 months ago I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly, because I was still part of the general congregation on that, believing what I was being told every day, and I had not yet begun to even consider questioning the prevailing orthodoxy on this matter. Like I said, Al Gore was my hero.

Wait and see. I bet you that the present alarmist predictions about manmade global warming will prove to be as faulty and off the mark as the alarmist predictions about global cooling (a new ice age!) were in the 40s, 50s, and 70s.

Just wait 10 years. (if we live that long) I bet you! If we're both still alive and in touch 10 years from now, check back with me and see if the present "global warming" orthodoxy and disaster fever has gone out of style yet and been replaced with some new hoopla for people to obsess about.

I can only wonder what it will be? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 08 - 04:32 PM

Amos, those things are happening because the poles are slidign 90 degrees: the South Pole is sliding to the West and so is the North Pole. Soon we will only have one pole, and the Earth will be a monopole. This will mess some things up somewhat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 08 - 02:19 PM

LH:

Brush up on the science. It is not the relative volume of CO2 to nitrogen and oxygen that makes up the greenhouse effect, per se. It is the fact that the total volume of CO2 (and other gasses contibuting to greenhousing) is ramping up. Not in the same proportion as it has cyclically over the last few centuries, not linearly, but exponentially.

Go see the slides and the numbers Gore presents and then come back with your explanation for the crumbling of the Arctic, the melting of the permafrost, and the unprecedented recession of icecaps both North and South.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 08 - 02:10 PM

A bag of water could repel flies for the same reason that a bag of scurrilous BS repels voters -- unreasoning push-button reactivity.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 08 - 01:57 PM

It was originally a glass preserves jar(before ZipLocs). I think the theory was it disrupted their visual mechanism through refraction. Dunno for sure. Never saw it work.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 May 08 - 01:45 PM

I don't know why it works, but I've heard that it does. My dogs are willing to test this theory. The pit, in particular, has such a short coat that the flies bother her.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 08 - 12:56 PM

Why on Earth would a bag of water repel flies?

I don't know of anything that repels them, but I do know that a bag of shit will attract them...if you change your mind. It has to have some air holes, though, because if it's sealed then the flies can't smell the shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 May 08 - 12:44 PM

Condolences, Rapaire. It is getting hot and windy here. I hung out an experimental bag of water (a clear plastic ziplock baggie) to see if it really does work to repel flies from around the back porch (and maybe give the dogs a break).

Snow would also work to keep the flies away.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 May 08 - 12:14 PM

The theory of planetary warming (as it presently stands) is highly questionable. Is anyone else out there aware that CO2 comprises only about .038 per cent of the entire atmosphere????

Earth's dry atmosphere: 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, .93% Argon, .038% a mere sliver of CO2, and the teeny amount remaining is made up of Neon, Helium, Methan, Krypton, and Hydrogen.

Water vapor in atmosphere: about 3 to 4% of atomsphere by volume near the surface of the planet, far less in the upper atmosphere.

Water vapor is the primary greenhouse gas, and the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere is more or less constant. During a warm period when the dinosaurs and plant life were absolutely flourishing all over this planet there was an enormously higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere than at present. Life was flourishing on planet Earth at that time. The CO2 in the atmosphere at that time comprised about 12% of the atmosphere, and it was due to major volcanic emmissions. That was over 300 times the present level of atmospheric CO2! This proved a boon to luxuriant plant life at the time, because plants "eat" CO2 and need it to survive. In time the CO2 moderated to its present level of .038% of the atmosphere. That's about 4 hundredths of a percent, folks! Wow, big threat! In the 1940s and 50s the media were freaked about global cooling and there were dire predictions of a possibly imminent new ice age. Ha. Ha. Now we're hearing the opposite scare story. I don't buy it.

The changes in the Earth's overall temperature appear to be cyclical in nature if you look at the geological record over the past few million years, and they are probably linked primarily to the changing (and cyclical) energies coming from the sun which is, after all, the active agent that causes this planet to be warm in the first place. We have been in a period of unusually high sun spot activity for the past decade...reputedly the highest in the last 1,000 years. That means a more active sun. That means a warmer planet Earth...for the time being.

However, I do sympathize with Rapaire's plight. Snow in May is simply just downright disgusting.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 May 08 - 10:27 AM

Um...Rapaire, calm down and think. You will realize that, first of all, S---f is not a dirty word and can be spelled out without risking tender ears: s-m-u-r-f. See? And second of all, you are making history here by completely disproving the theory of planetary warming. We're saved, and we owe it all to Pocatello!

Every cloud has its silver lining, man.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 May 08 - 09:51 AM

Mom, you don't want to hear the language I'm using about it because not only would it shock Amos's tender ears and gentle upbringing, but so far it has killed every mouse, mole, and vole for five miles around, driven the cougars and bears and wolves (oh my!) clear to Canada, and peeled the paint off six UP freight trains. It has cause three dynamite magazines at the Simplot mine to explode and whatever shingles were left on the Legion Hovel have been blasted into oblivion.

Mom, today is May Day. The First of May. We should be dancing around a May Pole or marching in solidarity with other workers of the world. But you know what, Mom?


             IT SNOWED ! ! !

About two or three INCHES of the s---f.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 May 08 - 01:19 AM

Back in business! Max has the lights on. (So turn them off and go to sleep!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Apr 08 - 11:28 PM

MOM, you can open your eyes now! We're here. The lights aren't all on yet and the bedding isn't unpacked, but have a seat here in this comfy armchair and Max will be by with your sleeping bag and a battery lantern soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 08 - 11:26 PM

Snuck in through the bathroom window.
Supported by a silver spoon.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 30 Apr 08 - 06:53 PM

Mwaaahahahahaha!!

It's ridiculous how the value of a dollar has shrunk. Was a time when you got a meter maid, she could be anywhere from, or, 1.8 to 2.2 meters.

Damn bureacurats sticking their fingers into everything.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Apr 08 - 06:19 PM

The meter maids here are only about 39.37 inches tall. It's in their job description.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 30 Apr 08 - 11:29 AM

These days a good meter maid, well made, if you happen to meter, can set your heart a raisin like mad. But raisin' one thing is not the same as raisin -- another -- so no wining.

(Sorry--I have just returned from North Beach in 1962, where syntax was something from the government).


A


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