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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Bee-dubya-ell 22 Feb 05 - 01:26 PM
Rapparee 22 Feb 05 - 04:41 PM
Rapparee 22 Feb 05 - 10:11 PM
Amos 23 Feb 05 - 12:03 AM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 23 Feb 05 - 02:10 AM
Amos 23 Feb 05 - 04:59 AM
Bunnahabhain 23 Feb 05 - 07:52 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 23 Feb 05 - 08:28 AM
Layah 23 Feb 05 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,MMario 23 Feb 05 - 09:22 AM
Rapparee 23 Feb 05 - 09:40 AM
Bunnahabhain 23 Feb 05 - 09:50 AM
GUEST,MMario 23 Feb 05 - 09:55 AM
GUEST,Bunnhabhain 23 Feb 05 - 10:08 AM
GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell 23 Feb 05 - 10:18 AM
GUEST,Amos 23 Feb 05 - 10:26 AM
GUEST,MMario 23 Feb 05 - 10:40 AM
GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell 23 Feb 05 - 11:08 AM
GUEST,Amos 23 Feb 05 - 11:27 AM
GUEST,Rapaire 23 Feb 05 - 12:02 PM
GUEST 23 Feb 05 - 12:25 PM
GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell 23 Feb 05 - 12:48 PM
GUEST,Amos 23 Feb 05 - 01:34 PM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 23 Feb 05 - 03:09 PM
Rapparee 23 Feb 05 - 03:36 PM
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Amos 23 Feb 05 - 06:51 PM
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Amos 24 Feb 05 - 10:26 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 01:26 PM

Did it look like THIS?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 04:41 PM

Kinda, but sorta different too. And cute.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 10:11 PM

All seriousness aside, I today received a CD copy of the old album of Gibson and Camp "At the Gate of Horn." From Dick Greenhaus, of course -- in fact I found out about his surgery when I was on the phone with him about the order this album came with. And I'm rediscovering just how damned good this album is.

Just thought I'd mention it....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:03 AM

"R.D. Jade's the name, sir, I represent the Terran Trade Amalgamation. We provide complete product-indexing and value-assessment services on an ordinary per diem basis. We also provide alternate-conjunction analysis services for a premium. We'd like to add the Denebian product lines to our catalog, but we propose to do so in a different color to make them easily discernible as yours. We believe this could be the beginning of a profitable two-way trade relationship. I understand you find our Ghanian peppercorns especially inductive of transcendental psycho-mimetic states. That's very good. I have personal connections with Ghanian farmers.

If there's any possibility you'd be interested we have several principals who would like to discuss a partnership on the transportation line for the trade agreement..."

The towering slender wall-eyed fogbank that was her first -- indeed, the planet's first -- example of extra-terrestrial life turned from the window to "face" her, if you could call it that.

Keying the glottal omni-trans unit, he sighed deeply, breathing from his methium rebreather. His voice scraped out of the translator like a wet fanbelt singing Verdi.

"Ah, yes. R.D. Jade. Stands for Reciprocal Depressed, as I remember only too well. I am your mother, Jade...".

The security guard woke her up with some smelling salts he always kept in his utility belt.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 02:10 AM

I'm Back!. (Logging in as a guest for a while so whoever has my other computer won't be able to log on as me should they actually consider clicking on my Mudcat link on my active desktop on my old machine).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:59 AM

That don't make sense, Stilly!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 07:52 AM

It's MOAB, it's SRS, we are expecting sense? Anyway, who could imitate SRS with sufficient style, panache and knowledge of the background of the madness round here.

Glad you're back.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 08:28 AM

Is that a self-portrait, SRS? If so, you are a boojum tree. (Yes, some boojums grow on trees.) That explains a lot. In fact, the lot that it explains is the vacant one at the corner of First Avenue and Second Street in Winnemucca, Nevada. Why a vacant lot in Nevada would need an explanation is a mystery, but so is why a boojum tree would want to post to the MOAB. Then, on the other hand, how a boojum tree could possibly avoid posting to the MOAB is an even greater mystery.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Layah
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:10 AM

I know plenty of boojum trees that wouldn't be caught dead on MOAB. Now alive, that is a different matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:22 AM

Vacant lots are a (not *the*. but "a") natural habitat for boojums. Proof, you ask?


Have you ever seen a boojum in a vacant lot? of course not, because they have swiftly and silently vanished!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:40 AM

And glad I am that I only encountered a young'un! Jackie Slade, a member of the Idaho Legion and a woman who could hold her liquor better than most of the other members, was riding in the hills east of town -- in the Pocatello Range, in fact, when she sighted a fully grown boojum a couple hundred yards off. Since Idaho has boojums on the "open season" list, she slid from the saddle with her .45-70 in her hand and jacked a round into the chamber as she sidled through the sagebrush. She got about fifty yards from the critter and had it dead in her sights when it slid behind a rock. Jackie stalked it, never gettin' close of course, but as she was followin' she realized that it was circling back on her, cuttin' her back trail!

She saw it again, sideways to her and in a perfect position for a shot. Then, as she got a good sight on it, the boojum gave one tremendous BURP! tha blew the rifle plumb outa Jackie's hands and pretty near knocked her out with the odor (or odour, 'cause the thing was probably down from Canada). When she looked back and her eyes had stopped waterin', her horse was gone. The boojum was gone too, and it had taken Ol' Sally, her favorite stallion, with it! Only things left were her saddle, saddle bags, bridle, bit, saddle roll, stirrups, and stuff like that, stuff that wasn't horse.

Jackie was afoot and alone with nothin' to survive with except her rifle, ammunition, slicker, blanket, saddle blanket, a couple pounds of jerky, some candy, a knife, a gallon canteen of water, matches, toilet paper, a good book, a compass and some topo maps of the country, some sandwiches, a cell phone, a couple hundred dollars, and suchlike truck! After a harrowing walk, totin' her gear, she got to the nearest clearing where a dustoff could land and called Search & Rescue, who sent the helicopter to pick her up. Jackie popped some smoke from her emergency smoke grenade, they got the her and her stuff loaded, and she had one heckuva a survival story to tell at the Idaho Legion Clubhouse that night.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:50 AM

Just when it seems you're all talking utter rubbish and nonsense, or quoting from Lewis Carrol, if there is a diffrence, it seems you're talking about a real thing. You lot never cease to surprise me....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:55 AM

Life is like that.

I worked at a chain restauraunt for years - and one thing the whole crew agreeed about - if a TV series had been created based on our place - it would be called "unbelievable"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bunnhabhain
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:08 AM

6464.
Never cease to confuse, and occasionlly scare me as well...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:18 AM

I never thought that I would see
A woman like a boojum tree.
With stunted branches of leaves shorn,
She stares across the desert morn
And asks "How'd this happen to me?
I never asked to be a tree!
Especially one so freakin' weird.
'Twere better I should grow a beard,
Or have a wart upon my face
Or some unmentionable place.
Than spend the balance of my time
As subject of some silly rhyme
Created by a nit-wit who
Must have nothing better to do.
Of all the things that I could be
Oh why, oh why a boojum tree?"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:26 AM

In his epic poem, "The Hunting of the Snark", Lewis Carroll (of Alice in Wonderland fame) describes an eclectic band of travelers in search of the elusive Snark. The Boojum, a spectral, mystical Snark alter-ego figures prominently in the poem, but is never described or illustrated. Half a century later, an English botanist and aficionado of Carroll saw the strange Idria Columnaris tree, unique to Baja California and dubbed it a "Boojum". ..


(From a web site maintained by Boojum Expeditions)

Seems from the scat and the sign and such that there were other BSers around these parts afore us'n's.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:40 AM

of course. MOAB is ageless and eternal. 'Twas she who coined the phrase "Let there be light" - because THE WORD wanted to just say "Yo! GLOW!"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 11:08 AM

Little known fact: Carrol originally coined the word "Boojum" in an unpublished poem in which a line ended "...kludge! Hmmmm?" The poem was not published because of a heated argument with his editor over the rhyme scheme. Carrol thought "kludge" rhymed with "rouge" while his editor insisted that it rhymed with "judge". Since the problem could not be reconciled, Carrol tore the manuscript of that poem to shreds and wrote "The Hunting of the Snark" instead. Had the original poem survived, it would have been notable for having introduced the word "kludge" into the English Language many years before the existence of any of the things that it may be used to describe.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 11:27 AM

I beg to differ, good BeeDubya. Traces of kludge have been found at excavated ante-Diluvian sites in Persia, Ethiopia and independently in Bolivia and the Gardenia Islands. There is no serious argument rebutitng the proposition that earliest homo sapiens were very poor housekeepers and given to accumulating kludge -- have formed logs, badly cut stone fragments, unuseable pottery, torn-out reed baskets, rotted tom-toms and the like.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:02 PM

I only tell of real happenings and speak only the truth. I am nothing but truthful, so much so that I might at times tell not only the truth, but a truth-and-a-half or even more. I virtually RING with truth, like a claxon proclaiming it throughout the land.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:25 PM

Claxon, claxoff?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 12:48 PM

I beg to differ, dear Amos. When Carrol used the word "kludge" he was describing a particularly nasty and well-armed variety of field mouse. It had absolutely no relationship with the word's current usage. It is a classic case of a reverse reciprical non-symbiosis leading to infra-transcendental non-linear asynchronous polymorphysm.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 01:34 PM

BeeDub:

There is no question, sir!! You need not beg to differ -- it is established and clear to any observer that you do, granted permission or nay. You are a paradigm of Difference, a walking Difference Engine, and you differ as few before you have, and as few will again.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 03:09 PM

Lewis Carrol used "kluge" but Lewis Carroll coined "boojum." That's the difference--BWL isn't pronouncing the second 'L' properly.

I've met the boojum tree face-to-face--it looks rather like a carrot growing root up, on a larger scale. They're found in the Sonoran Desert, mostly around the Sea of Cortez. And there's at least one in the Desert Museum in Tucson.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 03:36 PM

Can I get one to plant in my backyard? I promise not to water it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:53 PM

I apologize for my spelling faux pas. I should have remembered that Carroll is spelled with two ells as my own name is spelled with two ells and as "Stilly" is spelled with two ells and as even "ell" is spelled with two ells.

And I have never seen a boojum tree, though I have seen a carrot. Only one tee in "carrot", right?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 06:51 PM

Who's Lewis Carrol with one L?

Yes, sir, it has one t, one r and one k.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 07:02 PM

It might be easier to grow some if its closest (and only) relative--an ocotillo they come in either red or yellow flowers.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:19 PM

From the department of redundancy department:

"Poetical" is an adjective meaning "poetic", which is already an adjective meaning the same thing as "poetical". "Ic" and "al" are both adjectival suffixes. Either one suffices to make a noun into an adjective. What genius decided to have both of them in the same word? Does that make it doubly adjectival? If it's such a good idea, why don't we call atomic energy "atomical" energy?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:35 AM

"Ic" is nounal and "al" is verbal. God is a verb. 'Nuff said.


A.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 08:52 AM

If God is a verb, how does one conjugate Him?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 09:05 AM

So. I didn't realize that "ic" and "al" were the adjectivalic forms. I mean, I knew it, but I didn't really know it in my deepestical mind. I didn't finish my graduatical degree in English, although I did take a course in Advancedical Linguistics. I had to move to Southical Bendical, Indiana before I finished and besides, the school had dropped the program I'd "enlisted" in when the Prof who was responisble for it left for Arkansas.

I'm glad to know this now, though, because I don't want to sound like a dumbical ass during intellectualical discussions.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:26 AM

I withdraw my assertion about "al" being verbal. It was silly. But God is definitely a verb.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:28 AM

God must be a proper noun, not a verb. Or is my grammar as far oof as normal?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Layah
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:32 AM

If God is a verb, is it transitive or intransitive? Can I God you, or am I just Godding? Maybe it's one of those funny verbs that requires three arguments, I Godded you a spatula.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:33 AM

And Google was advertising Hebrew verb tables, which might have told us, and they've dissappeared now. Or is it Hebrew in which the name of God can never be written, so all sorts of other things are substituted for it, therefore meaning God would not be listed in a verb table? Except a noun would alsoo not be in a verb table....

Somebody please help, prefably in the next hour, or Crystal will be mean to me..


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:04 PM

God is a verb. Like in "I God a cold" or "Did you Gid potatoes?" or "I didn't Ged any beer."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:23 PM

I suspect that the redundant "al" thing is rooted in the fact that quite a few nouns (ie mystic, tropic, topic) end in "ic" and their adjectival forms are created using the "al" suffix (mystical, tropical, topical). The "al" in "poetical", "anatomical" and "sodomitical" have been added by morons. But those morons are probably all dead by now so we can neither shoot them nor ask them to become MOABites.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 01:04 PM

-al:

SUFFIX:
Of, relating to, or characterized by: parental.

ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English, from Old French, from Latin -lis, adj. suff.

SUFFIX:
Action; process: retrieval.

ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English -aille, from Old French, from Latin -lia, from neuter pl. of -lis.

-ic

 
SUFFIX:
1. Of, relating to, or characterized by: seismic. 2. Having a valence higher than that of a specified element in compounds or ions named with adjectives ending in –ous: sulfuric acid. 3. One relating to or characterized by: academic.

ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English, from Old French -ique, from Latin -icus and from Greek -ikos.

(Note that one of -al's definitions IS verbal, in describing action or process.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 01:34 PM

here's what I found...

-al:

SUFFIX: Of, relating to, or characterized by the smell of garlic

ETYMOLOGY:
Culinary French;Middle English, from Old French, from Latin -lis, adj. suff.


ETYMOLOGY:
aioli from Middle English -aille, from Old French, from Latin -lia, from neuter pl. of -lis.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:27 PM

Why, then, is there no useage of the word "anatomic" (which looks like it should mean 'not made of atoms')? Nor has there ever been "atomal" (in a manner like an atom ) or anatomal (How unlike an atom's processes...). I have never heard of moleculic (a nano-technology bonding agent) or moleculous either. Portents are portentous, never portentic or portentical. (As the mopther octopus said to her child when he stubbed a toe....portentical.)

We have periodic, but never periodal, but we do have periodicals. We have episodic, but    only rarely episodal, and I have never heard of episodical although I think it is a word.
Yet it is common to use cycle, cyclic and cyclical (but never cyclal).

Who makes up this stuff, anyway?? Talk about MOAB material, these patterns are downright MOABical!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:43 PM

Well, if we're going to coin a adjectival form to refer to the MOAB, would MOABous be more appropriate?

Then we could refer to our expeditions into the depths of MOABland as "MOABous trips".

And anyway, MOABic sounds tlike the first word in a nasty disease. Poor George! He has MOABic diarrhea!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 02:44 PM

you really expect better of a language derived from

Norman men at arms trying to pick up Saxon Barmaids

who were the result of

Saxon warriors trying to pick up Angle bar maids

who were the result of

anglish warriors trying to pick up pictish barmaids

who were the result of

Roman Warriors trying to pick up pictish barmaids

etc etc etc


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:12 PM

Portents are full of portential, just like Sister Mary Helga-of-the-whips said I was when I was you. We receive periodicals here, some of them only periodically and others episodically; others come only cyclically. Sometimes there are episodes of cyclical portents, and other times there are cycles of portenous (and even pretentious) episodes.

Thanks, I like the whiskies of both the Scots and the Irish.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 04:52 PM

Since we intend to go on forever, I think we should appropriate a term from mathematics and be MOABius.

Since I'm on dialup, there is no way that I can sweep back in after this post (number 95 in the latest sequence, if my reading here hasn't slowed my response enough to be lagging behind another MOABius or MOABite). Watch out for double-ought poachers like that Flaming FT, cruising through like a tarantula hawk waiting to nail the spider, then move on, leaving the tarantula to deal with the outcome, so to speak. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:53 PM

And she picked up her bonny long broom
And her baby under her arm, oh
And she flew above the chimney pots
All across Old London Town oh....l


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:53 PM

ANd when she came to the far green fields
That lie beside the river, oh
She lasid the babe all on the bank
Where he did cry and shiver, oh


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:54 PM

Then plucked she a green willow wand
From the tree that there was growin'
And past it o'er that young babes head
And muttered soft and lowin'


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:55 PM

Then the young babe did become a malkin
Grimalkin with eyes a-glowin'
And he called out, oh, mother dear....
My own life you have ruint!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:56 PM

And the cat did cry and the cat did leap
And all the winds were sighin'
And she leapt back on her broom again
And homeward set a flyin'.


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