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Subject: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 06 May 03 - 08:35 AM A new singaround is starting tomorrow (Wednesday) evening at the Railway, Heatley, near Lymm, Cheshire. Entitled 'Song in the Snug', it's intended to be primarily singing of traditional songs, along with the odd tune. The beer is very good: Tim Taylors Landlord, Boddingtons, and also a good guest beer. There is currently a folk club at this pub on Thursday evenings. 'Song in the Snug' is not intended to compete with the club, but to supplement it by attracting those who prefer traditional songs of the British Isles. The room is small enough to feel cosy, big enough to fit plenty in, and as it's the 'snug' it is actually part of the pub so it may not always be possible for it to be very quiet when singing. John |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 06 May 03 - 09:20 AM Great JJ, what time does it kick off? Can I bring my bodhran? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 06 May 03 - 09:55 AM Ha bloody ha! JJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 06 May 03 - 09:56 AM Kick-off 8 - 8.30? JJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Schantieman Date: 06 May 03 - 02:11 PM I might be able to make it. See you!! Steve |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 06 May 03 - 03:46 PM Should be there JJ If it is the room on the left as you enter the pub it is a great room The noise should not be a problem - if it gets too noisy to sing we can resort to talking and drinking. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Schantieman Date: 06 May 03 - 03:56 PM Or singing loudly! S |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Noreen Date: 06 May 03 - 04:09 PM You don't sing loudly, Steve... |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,AG Date: 06 May 03 - 04:15 PM If I caqn learn some traditional songs I'll come too. Are you running it JJ, or will it run it's self? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Puzzled Date: 06 May 03 - 04:51 PM Forgive my ignorance! What exactly is a singaround? What sort of "traditional" songs would be sung? Are the songs ones that everybody know already? Does everybody join in the choruses? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 06 May 03 - 05:21 PM See you there JJ. Diz :o) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,JohnJ...not a guest! Date: 06 May 03 - 05:26 PM Puzzled: A singaround is what is sounds like; a group of singers sat around the room, each having a turn at singing. What sort of tradional songs? More difficult to answer......traditional ones? Come along and see, or listen, or better still: sing! I'm sure some of the songs will be known by some of the company, equally some may not be known. It would be nice to think that if chorus songs are sung, everbody would join in. Please come along if you can, you will be most welcome. AG: I'm not sure who's running it, probably the people who turn up! John R: yes it is the room on the left, I look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Noreen: Hello Noreen! Fancy a sing? JJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Noreen Date: 06 May 03 - 05:36 PM Ignorance forgiven! "Come along and find out" is the obvious answer, if you're interested! If I were there I would probably ask JJ to sing 'Young Banker' because I like him singing it, Schantieman will likely sing a shanty or two, or a Keith Marsden song, John Routledge might sing 'Dol-li-a' and I might well sing a 42- verse ballad about abandoned females dying for love and thwarted suitors and roses and briars... (Don't know about everybody, it's not compulsory, but yes, people do join in the choruses, where there are choruses.) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Noreen Date: 06 May 03 - 05:43 PM Would love a sing, JJ, as ever, but will be listening to son playing trumpet, representing his school in a competition organised by the Rotary. So, Fanfare for the Common Man rather than Young Banker for me tomorrow! I'm hoping to be at the Red Bull in Stockport on Thursday though- would be nice to see you there, if two nights on the run were possible. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 06 May 03 - 05:53 PM John J, I'd love to come to this but I can't manage tomorrow. I hope that there will be another session - next week? next month? Do let us know, and good luck for tomorrow's singaround. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 06 May 03 - 06:04 PM Hi Matthew. Hope you can make it soon. Should be a good do. The room acoustics are wonderful - I secretly sang a verse in there a couple of months ago :0) Roll on tomorrow!! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 06 May 03 - 06:51 PM I hope JJ doesn't sing Young Banker; he's always pinching my songs. Mathew, if all goes well we hope to have another one in two weeks time, so come along if you can. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 06 May 03 - 07:24 PM The acoustics in the room have been sorted - Paul's put poison down and set traps! Erm... technicackly, a 'trad' song is one of anonymous origin, and usually there is more than one version of the same song extant. Some people's definition seems to include songs which have been sung often even though the writer is known... stretching a point!! Hope to be there, folks! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Noreen Date: 06 May 03 - 08:07 PM Your song? Did you write it then, Alan? Gosh, you must be old.... Bernard, in this case, I don't think anyone would keep to that strict definition- I suppose most songs will be "in the traditional style" |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 07 May 03 - 04:49 AM Noreen, sorry I can't tell you if I wrote it because Bernard says a traditional song has to be of "anonymous origin". And yes I am very old...or I bloody feel it this morning. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Bell, book and candle Date: 07 May 03 - 09:59 AM Sounds like fun..... ..... these kind of events need to monitored. Too many new songs and well..... security can be hired from Tradviggroup*, they will interogate songs for heritageness and take appropriate action. * Tradviggroup are a subsiduary of Rentokill. ..... but then again fun can also be had on a Thursday evening at Chorlton Folk Club, South West Manchester Cricket Club, Ellesmere Road, Chorlton |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 07 May 03 - 12:13 PM If you're not a "GUEST" JJ, does that mean you're not comming? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 07 May 03 - 12:29 PM Oh I'll be there alright, on my bicycle so I can sample large quantities of Landlord. John |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 07 May 03 - 01:08 PM John- The woobbly walk still applies I think so some slight care necessary :0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Joan from Wigan Date: 07 May 03 - 02:42 PM I've seen this thread too late to put the info in Folkal Point, even as a stop press item (it's now 7.40pm UK time). Please let me know when the next session is, and the frequency, so I can give it some publicity. Also, details of who's organising it (previous experience tells me if there's no designated organiser a session soon descends into chaos, although I'll be happy to be proved wrong...). Have fun tonight. Joan |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 07 May 03 - 03:25 PM Good luck with this.....hope to get along sometime soon.... All the best.........Harry. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Noreen Date: 07 May 03 - 06:28 PM Hope it went well, and that the Landlord didn't mind being sampled by JJ... Was my prediction anywhere near? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 07 May 03 - 07:27 PM Excellent start. Ten singers of whom six were M'cat!! Room worked very well. Next one 21 May but await confirmation from the boss. Having already read Noreen's prediction it worked in my case :0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Joan from Wigan Date: 08 May 03 - 03:55 AM And who is "the boss", John? Joan |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 08 May 03 - 04:44 AM I really enjoyed it; the accoustic in the room is excellent and everybody made a really good contribution. A great start; thanks everybody for comming. JJ spent that much time sampling the landlord that he missed the Black Sheep on draught! I can confirm that there will be another on 21 May, and we have also penciled in for 4 & 18 June. We don't really have a boss Joan, but I take your point that it could all fall apart if no one looks after it. So I'll take responsibility for rounding people up and making sure that the room is available for us. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Redhorse at work Date: 08 May 03 - 08:23 AM Enjoyable evening in spite of memory problems. As regards "Miner's Life", DT has it as "Miner's Lifeguard" and reckons it as 1890's, older than i thought. nick |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Joan from Wigan Date: 08 May 03 - 01:00 PM Thanks for that info, Alan, I'll see it gets into the next Folkal Point. Would it be possible to have a contact phone number please, for people to check with who may be travelling some distance? If not, I could put in the pub's phone no. Glad the night was a success, here's hoping it becomes a regular feature. Joan |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Hawker Date: 08 May 03 - 02:53 PM John J Hi are you the chap that we met at Wadebridge Folk Fest last year? We may be popping to Mum & Dads in Macclesfield soon, so pm me so that I can find out what's on round about! Cheers, Lucy |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Schantieman Date: 08 May 03 - 04:54 PM I was there last night, and a jolly good night it was too. Only got lost twice on the way there. Black Sheep was excellent - didn't sample the TT's Landlord as well owing to necessity of driving home! Good luck to all for the future - the more singing the better. Will try and make it next time too. Steve |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 09 May 03 - 04:45 AM Hello Lucy! Yes It's me. What a pleasant surprise you can email me directly if you need to: john.jocys@btinternet.com . Let me know when you're coming up and I'll do the required research and provide you with a plan. I hope you're all well, we won't be able to do Wadebridge this year 'cos I was too late in getting my holidays in :-( The singaround t'other night was really very good indeed, with superb singing in very good company, a rather nice beer. Perhaps your visit to Macc will coincide with one of the singarounds....I hope so. Cheers, John |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 09 May 03 - 07:19 AM I'm surprised that you can remember Wadebrige John after that rocket fuel that you kept drinking in the Ship! I'll not be able to make it to Wadebridge either this year - got my nephew's wedding to attend that weekend. Thanks for the publicity Joan, you can put my number in as the contact 01625 861042. The pub number is on The Railway Folk Club's web site (www.railwayfolkclub.co.uk) Alan |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 09 May 03 - 04:41 PM What a good night it was---not least because it takes me three minutes to get there :0)roll on the next-- Hey, Boss Man--JJ didn't pinch Young Banker off you--you both pinched it off Maggie at The Open Door!! Hey Nick supprised to see you on here-- see you and Lin on Thursday and The Boss Man I hope--what about you JJ--?? Helen as well?? Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 16 May 03 - 11:35 AM Next 'Song in the Snug' at the Railway is next Wednesday, 21st May. If the next one is half as good as the first one it will be superb! I'll check out the Black Sheep next time.....I suppose I could always slum it and drink Landlord like wot Madonna does. I'll be on my bike again (for the exercise you understand). John |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 19 May 03 - 12:17 PM Refresh |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 19 May 03 - 04:44 PM I hope you are by now suitably refreshed JJ. For those of us who don't live within If I can tear myself away from the Bromborough Club for one week this Wednesday I shall try to come. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Noreen Date: 19 May 03 - 05:18 PM I will have absconded to Scotland, so won't make it, again, sorry. Beware of the Black Sheep! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 19 May 03 - 06:38 PM Hi Mathew Yes it is the same place Railway at Heatley Hope to see you on Wednesday. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,JohnJ...not a guest! Date: 20 May 03 - 03:55 AM I look forward to meeting you Matthew. Cheers, John |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 20 May 03 - 07:39 AM The room is booked and we're raring to go! The only problem is that the Black Sheep have all gone astray. But they have been replaced by Geriatric Spotty Chickens (my favourite), so you'll be wobbling even more than usual. For those who asked at the folk club last Thursday, we are not doing the same thing as the Folk Club. I can only repeat JJs words that it is primarily for those who want to sing/listen to/talk about TRADITIONAL FOLKSONG in a quieter setting, with the odd pint of good ale to keep us going. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,JohnJ...not a guest! Date: 20 May 03 - 03:27 PM I may end up going in the car 'cos it's my daughter's GCSE art exhibition early the same evening. That means no 'Geriatric Spotty Chicken' beer for me. Bugger. JJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 20 May 03 - 07:51 PM Fingers crossed...I'll be there!! Love..........Harry. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 21 May 03 - 01:07 PM Refresh |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 21 May 03 - 07:45 PM The second singaround tonight was even better than the first. Increase in number of singers with slight change in personel. Acoustics really excellent and great variety of songs - essentially unaccompanied. Next song sessions 4th and 18th June. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 21 May 03 - 08:00 PM Excellent night......good singing, good beer and most importantly - - good company!! Harry. :0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 21 May 03 - 08:56 PM Shame nobody brought a bodhran, though...!! ;^)) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 22 May 03 - 01:45 PM Bernard's joking......Honest!!! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Schantieman Date: 22 May 03 - 03:06 PM Will def. try & make it 4th June - day off next day! Any local beds? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 22 May 03 - 04:20 PM Great night -- lovely music. It was good to meet you again, Matthew and so pleased you enjoyed the night. Hope you can make it back again soon :o) Roll on June 4th! Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 22 May 03 - 06:49 PM That was a very enjoyable evening, with a good variety of singers and songs, and a good appreciative audience. The Railway clientele was intriguingly bizarre that night;- comprising hardcore folkies, cyclists, and pigeon fanciers as well as the usual underage* alcopop drinkers on the pool table. It was nice to meet so many old and new friends, and to hear so many interesting songs. Alan, thanks for bringing back memories of Harry Cox with your "Australia", even though I break out in giggles every time over the line about 'entering the bush of Australia'. Harry - loved the Prickly Bush, and its good to meet you at last. John (aka Geordie) you've found a real power in your delivery so that "Sorrows Away" & "Blackleg Miner" both were really effective. John J sang more verses of "The Cuckoo's Nest" than I'd ever heard, and the singer on my right who added a new line to "Blackbirds and Thrushes" deserves to be I'm previously engaged for 4 June, but I'll be there again for 18 June. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 22 May 03 - 07:02 PM Nice to meet you, Matthew....and thanks for your rendition of 'The Cruel Mother'. I don't know where JJ got all those verses from either!! All the best..............Harry. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 22 May 03 - 08:27 PM He pinches them from Alan! Of course, Alan pinched them from JJ in the first place...!! Glad we got that cleared up! Yes, another really good night in the Snug! Looks like we're on to a winner! That's enough from me - I'm knackered! Just back from the CLive Gregson concert in the 'upstairs club'! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 23 May 03 - 07:01 AM Another very successful and most enjoyable evening and everybody seemed to enjoy it. Good company, good singing, and excellent Old Speckled Hen (even though I could only sample half a pint of it 'cos I was driving). From the resposes it seems that everybody enjoyed it as much as I did; I can't believe it's going so well. Helen; sorry if I put you off by joining in your Gallant Poacher with a slightly different version. I'll try to do better in future. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 23 May 03 - 09:00 AM Another very successful and most enjoyable evening and everybody seemed to enjoy it. Good company, good singing, and excellent Old Speckled Hen (even though I could only sample half a pint of it 'cos I was driving). From the resposes it seems that everybody enjoyed it as much as I did; I can't believe it's going so well. Helen; sorry if I put you off by joining in your Gallant Poacher with a slightly different version. I'll try to do better in future. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 23 May 03 - 09:02 AM An I seeing double? I must have been at the Old Speckled Hen again. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 23 May 03 - 11:20 AM Ah, 'tis wonderful ale! JJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 23 May 03 - 03:01 PM Burp! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 06 Jun 03 - 03:53 PM Another cracking night on the 4th. Well done Alan and JJ for getting this off the ground. It's worth going to see Diz battling with fits of the giggles... Looking forward to the 18th! Love............Harry and Sara. :0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 06 Jun 03 - 05:13 PM Sorry to have had to miss this week. Will Diz be giving a repeat performance on the 18th? :-) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 07 Jun 03 - 06:09 AM There is a strong possibility, Matthew....and when she's not giggling that lady can certainly put a song across..... |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 09 Jun 03 - 07:57 AM Thanks for those kind words, Harry It was a great night--we ALL warbled wonderfully. I have a dreadful virus in my computor (so I am told) so this thread is from work--which will probably result in the sack and it will be all your fault!!! ;o) Don't listen to him, Matthew--I was the soul of decorum. I am hoping to be there on Wednesday 18th but will be late. Look forward to seeing you and Harry and the lovely Sara then! Cheers Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,JohnJ...not a guest! Date: 16 Jun 03 - 02:38 PM This Wednesday, 18th June, and also the following Wednesday. John |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 16 Jun 03 - 03:45 PM By way of a refresh hope my visit this week will not lower the tone. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 16 Jun 03 - 07:59 PM It's alright, JR, we can always bolt the door when you go for a pint!! ;^)) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST Date: 17 Jun 03 - 03:14 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 19 Jun 03 - 04:42 AM Last night we had our 4th singaround and once again it was a very sucessful and enjoyable evening. The standard of singing continues to be excellent with a good variety. I can't remember what the beer was that JJ kept feeding me, but that was almost as good as the singing and the comany. Thanks to everyone for making it such an enjoyable night |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 19 Jun 03 - 04:07 PM Yes-- a good night it was again.JJ fed me some of that beer as well, Alan and damn fine it was too!! May dig my bike out and peddle there next week! See you all then. Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 19 Jun 03 - 07:48 PM A great night was had by me also. The song session is developing very nicely and will I am sure continue to progress as the venue is so good. Please keep dates posted as and when they become available. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 25 Jun 03 - 06:52 AM Don't forget there's another one tonight. Hope its as good as previous ones. If it stays as hot as it currently is we'll have to get Bernard to stand on JJs back and open some windows. We could then wedge them open with a bodhran. Or we could just sit on the lawn and consume copious amounts of the guest beer. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 25 Jun 03 - 11:23 AM You tonight as in 'tonight'? Oh good. I'll come on my bike and have a pint or 9. JJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 26 Jun 03 - 06:44 AM We've tentatively (?!) settled on the second and fourth Wednesdays of the month, to make it easier for people to keep track. This will mean occasionally there will be a gap of two weeks between sessions, but that just allows a bit of extra learning time for HelenJ! So the next one is July 9th... |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 26 Jun 03 - 07:22 AM Thanks for reminding me of that Bernard, I couldn't remember what we'd finally agreed - must be the effects of the excellent Crag Rat beer. Anyway, I'm glad it's that week because I'm on hols the following week and I don't want to miss one. Once again it was a cracking night with lots of good singing and excellent selection of songs. It puts me to shame, so I'll have to learn some propper songs and stop doing those shanties and chorusy things. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 26 Jun 03 - 07:51 AM Yes-- a great night once again. Don't you dare stop doing Shanties and Chrousy things, Alan!! We need them after the doom and gloom I sing--but I think Liz surpassed me last night ;o) and wonderful songs they were too! Roll on July 9th! Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 26 Jun 03 - 10:28 AM I think the star turn is the Helen and JJ double act!! Hysterical!! Never realised how amusing the 'Wizard' could be!! Helen had her prompt sheet, but no spectacles, and JJ was trying to prompt but didn't know which bit she was up to!! Added to which, Helen kept forgetting the tune! Anyway, Al, if you don't do shanties and chorusy things, you will have your licence revoked - and that can prove very painful in the Trussocks! It's very refreshing to hear everyone making the effort to dredge up great songs from dim and distant memory, or learning 'new' ones - and making such a good job of it! Now, what was I supposed to be doing? Work? Wassat, then?!! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 26 Jun 03 - 06:01 PM Re. the Cicely Fox Smith discussion last night...she was born in Lymm on the 1st. of February, 1882. Her father was a barrister at law, Eichard Smith B.A. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 26 Jun 03 - 06:46 PM Thanks Harry, but 1882 doen't bring up any nice round numbers for a celebration - or not until 2032 (150 years) which is a bit too long to wait! She died in 1954 - could we commemorate her next year? Apparently Danny MacLeod gave a talk at Lancaster this Easter, did anbody catch it? There were a lot of "doom and gloom" songs! - did anybody keep a body count? At a conservative estimate we must have sung about nine or ten deaths and murders, four rapes/seductions, plus one or two illegitimate births. What are the crime statistics like in Lymm since the singarounds started? Should I call in DI Francis Child to investigate? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Detective Inspector F.J.Child Date: 26 Jun 03 - 07:17 PM I am currently busy investigating the mysterious death of one Jemmy Grove from the north country. However we have had to consider over 300 different accounts of his decease, most of which point at the involvement of a certain Barbara Allen whom we would like to interview. Some accounts have advised us that she may have already died out of sorrow, but in order to test this we have applied for an exhumation, which will proceed as soon as we have removed the tangled growths of roses and briars from the graves. When I have sufficient time I would like to consider several reports from Lymm of prolonged accounts of murder, rape, incest, infanticide, and various supernatural occurrences. I am looking for several bearded sandal-wearing males with guitars, and their female accomplices, who may have some useful information. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 26 Jun 03 - 07:19 PM Next year sounds good to me, Matthew....she died April 8th. 1954 so there's a date to aim at. Not very good at doing limks so if someone could do a blicky for the Cicely Fox Smith thread on the 'cat I'd be much obliged! Must agree..the body count must have been massive last night...no idea how many were on the Barbary pirate ship..(the only deaths I can be held accountable for throughout the entire evening!). |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 26 Jun 03 - 07:24 PM 'cor Blimey, Guv....Wot abaht that George Collins, eh? Six maidens all in one night??!!! Dead??!!!? and all for 'is ruddy sake...ain't natcherel if you arsks me it ain't..... |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 27 Jun 03 - 04:45 AM Pity you missed the previous week Harry, we heard that there wre hundreds killed on the trains at Waterloo (or did I mss hear?) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 27 Jun 03 - 03:27 PM That should have read Richard Smith for Cicely's father....her mother was called Alice Wilson. Very good, Alan..we'll have to watch out for people being killed taking the Tights of Alma! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 27 Jun 03 - 03:41 PM I will phone our local historian if I get a chance over the weekend and see if he can help with any further information re Cicely Fox Smith, Harry. Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,HelenJ Date: 28 Jun 03 - 03:52 AM I am loving this Sing in the Snug to death - love the songs; people and general atmosphere - even though I appear to have taken on the role of comedienne! Well I only had the tune that morning courtesy of Bernard - I concentrated so much on remembering it I forgot the words. (Well - it can happen to anyone - I suppose...) Have filled my diary (2nd and 4th week) up to the end of the year just in case it slips my memory!! Roll on the next meet and I ' more or less' promise not to cause unseemly larfter in future. Looking forward to Lin and Nic re-appearance. Everyone - you are terrific! HelenJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 28 Jun 03 - 05:58 AM It's lovely to mix in a bit of laughter with the singing..."Songs in the Snug" proves that singing traditional song can be fun. It doesn't have to be "po-faced intensity"!! Helen........we love you to bits! Love.............Harry and Sara. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 28 Jun 03 - 06:05 AM In total agreement with you, Helen. It is indeed a turning into a wonderful night--so relaxed and friendly. It matters not one iota whether anyone forgets a verse/tune--or to 'wibble and warble' in the right places. We also love you causing 'unseemly larfter' so we will not hold you to that promise!!! Nik n Lyn should be back this next week , so even more lovely music to listen too--long may we continue. Maybe we can also persuade a few others who love the music to come along as well? Matthew seems to think it is worth the journey and Harry and Sara too! Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 29 Jun 03 - 04:44 PM Oh please, Helen we need lots more unseemly larfter, though I suppose the role of comedian/comedienne could be shared out if you want a rest from the position! Diz - what music? I only come for the beer!!! Have just got home from Chorley Festival where the ballad session provoked severe carnage; deaths by drowning, poisoning, wee penknife, etc. with the usual quota of rapes-and-pillages. Ellen Mitchell sang a ballad about a man who feigned his own death in order to seduce a local maid when she came to his wake (NB this is not a recommended technique!) although it does provoke some discussion about which body parts are affected by rigor mortis! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 29 Jun 03 - 08:45 PM From what I've seen, Matthew, you need to be worrying more about Liquor Mortis!!! Seriously (?!), the lack of competitiveness is what is making 'Snog in the Guns' so enjoyable. As Harry said, it isn't intense. We've all been to those sort of gatherings...!! We aren't looking for prissy perfection, we are enjoying the beauty of traditional-style songs in the type of setting that they were mostly intended for. That's why it's so good! Although most of the songs are Acker Bilk... erm, Acapulco... errrr... unaccompanied, it isn't exclusively so. However, anyone turning up with a Marshall stack and Fender Strat will find we are a tad hostile...!! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Schantieman Date: 30 Jun 03 - 05:17 AM So when's the next one then? I might actually be able to make it this week! Steve |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 30 Jun 03 - 06:16 AM We will be meeting on 2nd and 4th Wednesdays throughout the summer, so our next will be on 9th July. Look forward to seeing you again Steve. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 30 Jun 03 - 08:54 AM There are several threads already on Mudcat for Cicely Fox Smith, and her poetry, and the songs which various people have created from them. Danny MacLeod has done a lot of research into her life and work, and he will be giving another presentation at Warwick Festival (the programme is available here:- Warwick Festival) on Saturday 26 July 2003, at 10:30 AM in the Living Tradition Centre. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 30 Jun 03 - 10:31 AM Will rustle up a few suspects hopefully. See you 9th July |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 05 Jul 03 - 07:57 AM I still haven't got around to finding out more about Cicely Fox Smith but promise I will by Wednesday? Are you going to Warwick, Matthew?? Good to hear you are going to make it back to us Steve. Roll on Wednesday. Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards Date: 05 Jul 03 - 01:45 PM I went to my local club here after missing a couple of weeks and bumped into Gordon Morris of Marrowbones who has recorded quite a few of CFS poems, and he gave me a sampler CD with some of his settings on it. I haven't made my mind up yet about going to Warwick - I enjoyed it last year. Looking forward to Wednesday. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 05 Jul 03 - 02:03 PM Great news Matthew--you and Harry know far more than me about CFS and she was born in the village I have lived in for the last thirty years!! Shame on me ;0) See you Wednesday. Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 05 Jul 03 - 04:12 PM Wouldn't mind a tape of that CD, Matthew.......:0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 05 Jul 03 - 06:32 PM Me as well :0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 05 Jul 03 - 07:54 PM Looks like an academic night on Wednesday. Will make sure that my head is in gear.Can we have some singing as well.:0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 05 Jul 03 - 08:06 PM In fact a rendition of "Bleezin...." ala Cilla Black sorry Fisher seems in order. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 06 Jul 03 - 06:08 AM Trying to learn something a bit more cheerful--but I do so love doom and gloom-- . Thinking about it though--the song I am learning is about a fox who gets ripped to pieces--here we go again!!!!!!!! Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 07 Jul 03 - 05:14 AM You raised a good point John, it's the songs that are important. It's important that we remenber that we go (as Bernard so elequently puts it) to enjoy the beauty of traditional style songs in a setting where they would feel at home. That doesn't mean that there shouldn't be some discussion about the songs or other related topics, such as CFS, but I would hate it to turn into some sort of learned society. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Schantieman Date: 07 Jul 03 - 10:36 AM Might just be there tomorrow - with a (Mudcatter) friend too! Steve |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 07 Jul 03 - 11:47 AM Steve - I hope you meant you might be there on WEDNESDAY and not tomorrow! Otherwise you might be sitting singing to yourself. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Schantieman Date: 08 Jul 03 - 03:39 PM Ah! OK. In fact, I won't be there on Wednesday, then. It's our end of term and I shan't be sober enough to get there. AND I've got to get up early on Thurs morning to go sailing. See you in the Autumn! Steve |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 08 Jul 03 - 03:49 PM Well a boat wouldn't keep me away but a Knight on a White Charger might ;o) See you Wednesday Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 11 Jul 03 - 04:56 PM Sorry we couldn't make it on Wednesday......missed you all.. Love......Harry and Sara. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 13 Jul 03 - 05:20 AM We all missed you too! Also JJ--where are you hiding, John? Liz had gone AWOL as well. It was a good night --very hot--nobody seemed in a 'death and despair' mood so we all sang silly songs instead! You were all missed--hope to see you next time. Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 13 Jul 03 - 09:12 AM It is great news the song sessions have been fixed for 2nd and 4th Wednesdays as in speaking to others firm dates increase the chances of them remembering and coming along. There is now a sufficiently large core of singers that even in the absence of a few regulars a good night can still be had. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 13 Jul 03 - 03:38 PM Liz had already told us she would be away in London, so she's excused. JJ is also away somewhere or other, and is due back this coming Wednesday (16th July). So he's excused, too! It is 'holiday season', after all!! Sara is having a problem with her arthritic knee, so she and Harry couldn't be there. Soooo... 23rd July is our next - erm - can't say 'session', or Pied Piper will complain!! Hah! ;^)) Song in the Snug it is, then! Which, unfortunately, abbreviates to SitS...!! I suppose it could be worse, tho'! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 13 Jul 03 - 04:31 PM Ha!! I think it is probably nearly appropriate, Bernard! Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 23 Jul 03 - 07:00 AM Refresh....'cos the next one's tonight!!! Yay!!! Love..........Harry and Sara. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 23 Jul 03 - 07:45 AM Yippee! JJ |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Diz Date: 23 Jul 03 - 07:49 AM Can't wait! But no laughing--I have been stung on my eye and look stupid (more so than usual)!! Any mistakes I make when singing will all be down to my poor eye you understand ;o) Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 23 Jul 03 - 07:56 AM Yvonne!!! - - How on earth........?!?!?!?!?!? |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Bernard Date: 08 Aug 03 - 02:39 PM For those who have lost count, the next one is this coming Wednesday, August 13th. Alas, I may well not be there, as I'm likely to be late back from rigging the arena sound at Shrewsbury Flower Show... Have a good 'un! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 08 Aug 03 - 05:07 PM I won't be able to get either Bernard 'cos I'm working away in Somerset. Diz is being "Deputy Boss Man" and I've given her a big stick to round up more singers, so i'm sure it will be up to its usual excellenmt standard. Sing it again for me. Alan |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 10 Aug 03 - 06:28 AM 'Some are born great and some have greatness thrust upon them'!! Thanks, Alan--you honour me!!! See you all on Wednesday-- Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 26 Aug 03 - 05:12 AM We're back again this week, Wednesday 27th. Sorry I couldn't make the last session, but I heard that Diz made a woderful job of officiating it. Although the last session was a quieter night than usual(possibly because a cetain loud singer was absent) I heard that what it lacked in numbers, it made up for in quality (again possibly because a certain loud singer was absent) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 26 Aug 03 - 01:41 PM Refresh See you all tomorrow Diz was wonderful in charge - Watch out Alan. :0) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 28 Aug 03 - 09:01 AM Alan, it was such a relief you were back in charge last night and the loud singing was much appreciated :o) John Routledge lies ofcourse --I was appallingly bad and quite 'drunk in charge'! It was another good night last night. Though Harry and Sara and Nik and Lyn were very much missed. We would all welcome any singers who sing in a traditional way or anyone who likes to just listen to music and wants to join good company for an evening. It is very light hearted--we take our songs seriously but not ourselves. Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 28 Aug 03 - 09:29 AM I cannot agree that I lied but I can agree with "We take our songs seriously but not ourselves" :0) This attitude makes for an excellent night. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 09 Sep 03 - 11:51 AM Don't forget It's this week (10 September) and it's going to be even better than ever |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 09 Sep 03 - 02:20 PM Looking forward to it, Alan! Love...........Harry and Sara. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 09 Sep 03 - 02:46 PM Great! See you there folks. Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 09 Sep 03 - 08:26 PM Refresh and see you all tonight. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 10 Sep 03 - 08:04 PM 12 singers with good songs and a good bit of laughter. Not much more needed :0) Roll on 4th Wednesday. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Diz Date: 11 Sep 03 - 07:41 AM Agreed, John. Great night--it just gets better and better. Lovely to see Anne and Tom there and Steve as well. I really enjoyed their music and hope they return soon. Harry--your CD is going to be awesome-- Diz |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Harry Basnett Date: 11 Sep 03 - 05:21 PM *blush* |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Matthew Edwards Date: 11 Dec 03 - 04:41 AM It's good to be able to report that this session now appears to be well established, meeting regularly on the second and fourth Wednesdays of the month in the Snug room at the Railway, Heatley near Lymm. The sessions have been well supported by some very good singers (apart from one or two who have strayed - but I won't mention any names JJ!) and the atmosphere is relaxed and friendly. There will be no session on the fourth Wednesday of this month (Christmas Eve), so an extra session is being held on Wednesday 17th next week. In the absence of our Lord and Master, who was otherewise engaged in entertaining the ladies of the WI, last night's session proved gloriously confusing. The landlord "his reckoning forgot" and had booked a crowd of Serious Anoraks - either the Lymm Shares Club or the Chess Club - into the Snug, so that we poor singers were obliged to seek shelter next to the darts board. From there we were rescued by Helen and invited to join the Bollin Morris for an improvised song and dance session. Our heartfelt thanks go to the dancers for their hospitality, and I hope they enjoyed the songs as much as I enjoyed their playing and dancing. PS Congratulations to Bernard on the birth of his grand-daughter! |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Matthew Edwards Date: 15 Dec 03 - 03:56 PM I managed to catch the aforesaid Lord and Master performing with the Grace Darling Singers at Chadkirk Chapel last Saturday night in a delightful performance of West Gallery singing. The setting of this 14th Century chapel reached on foot at the end of a dark lane in the Goyt valley seemingly miles from anywhere was perfect for these songs. And coming out of the chapel at the end felt just like carollers returning home as described by Thomas Hardy in one of the readings at the concert. The concert was recorded by Grandpa Bernard for the Grace Darling Singers, so those of you who missed it may get another chance. Anyway I wanted to add that owing to prior commitments (the staff Xmas bash) I can't come the the Singaround this week, so Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year to all the regulars (and irregulars!) in the Snug! Matthew |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: Yvonne Date: 15 Dec 03 - 04:29 PM I was sorry to have missed this concert, Matthew. It sounds magical! 'Our Esteemed Leader' certainly gets around and he informs me a CD of the concert will soon be on sale for £5.00 each! Sorry you can not make Wednesday, Matthew but will see you before Christmas. Hope everyone else can make it including Alan because I am getting very weary of standing in for him---I find it extremely scary and anyone who runs a folk club has my admiration! Anyone who enjoys a good cosy atmosphere and songs sung in a 'traditional' style is more than welcome to join us in The Snug at The Railway Hotel, Heatly, Lymm every second and fourth Wednesday in the month. You will be made most welcome by our small but friendly crowd (10 to 12 singers usually). Cheers Yvonne |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 15 Dec 03 - 05:44 PM Hope to see as many as possible there this Wednesday (17/12/03). Many thanks to everyone who has supported our little gathering in the Snug, and who has indulged me in my love of traditional folksong (and good beer)over the last 10 months. Sorry that Matthew and Nic & Lyn won't be able to make it due to other committments, so I'd like to take this opportunity to wish them a great Christmas and new year, and I'll see the rest of you on Wednesday. "Let an Anthem of Peace and a Carol of Joy Each Tongue and each Heart in sweet Concert Employ" (Cleb Ashworth 1722-75) |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John J Date: 16 Dec 03 - 09:06 AM Who, what?? I'll be there this Wednesday, the last few months have been very difficult with some family illness ( now pretty well sorted ), and a huge amount of work (at work). I'm seriously considering taking a leaf out of Alan's book so I can have some free time (eh?). Cheers, John |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: John Routledge Date: 16 Dec 03 - 10:22 AM Nice to have such a positive thread. Of all the places I attend this one is looking the best for 2004 2nd and 4th Wednesdays each month. |
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Subject: RE: Singaround, Lymm, Cheshire From: GUEST,Alan Date: 12 Jan 04 - 04:58 PM Our first meeting of 2004 is this Wednesday, 14 January. Hope to see you all there, and I hope that this year is as enjoyable as last |
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