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Essential Irish Session Tunes

Jon W. 06 Aug 98 - 12:32 PM
Mick Lowe 06 Aug 98 - 07:51 PM
alison 06 Aug 98 - 08:16 PM
Big Mick 06 Aug 98 - 10:00 PM
alison 07 Aug 98 - 01:46 AM
Benjamin Bodhra/nai/ 07 Aug 98 - 03:20 AM
judy 07 Aug 98 - 04:05 AM
Maelgwyn 07 Aug 98 - 02:18 PM
Maelgwyn 07 Aug 98 - 02:20 PM
08 Aug 98 - 01:26 PM
Stacy 08 Aug 98 - 08:22 PM
Tinwhistler 08 Aug 98 - 08:50 PM
Barry Finn 09 Aug 98 - 11:53 AM
Mick Lowe 09 Aug 98 - 06:15 PM
Jon W. 10 Aug 98 - 12:13 PM
Pendragn13 12 Aug 98 - 05:48 PM
Jon W. 12 Aug 98 - 05:57 PM
The Tinwhistler's Mutha 12 Aug 98 - 08:36 PM
Kiwi 13 Aug 98 - 12:28 AM
alison 13 Aug 98 - 03:47 AM
Big Mick 13 Aug 98 - 10:17 PM
rosebrook 14 Aug 98 - 01:06 AM
Jon W. 14 Aug 98 - 10:54 AM
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Subject: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Jon W.
Date: 06 Aug 98 - 12:32 PM

I've never heard an authentic Irish Session let alone sat in on one, but I think it must be a wonderful experience. My question is, can you name the top 25 or so dance tunes, songs, etc. that a musician would need to know to successfully participate in an Irish session?


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Mick Lowe
Date: 06 Aug 98 - 07:51 PM

Jon,
Multiply that by at least 10, i.e. get 250 under your belt and you might stand a chance. That would also depend upon where and who you were playing with. To give you some idea on an average evening we would probably do the following (plus more)
REELS:
Copper Plate / Donegal / Drowsy Maggie/ Father Kelly's/ Heather Breeze/ Longford Collector/ Maid Behind the Bar/ Miss McClouds/ Miss Monaghan / Mountain Road/ My Love is in America/ Off in the Morning/ Rakish Paddy/ Sailors Bonnet/ Sally Gardens/ Shaskeen/ Sligo Maid/ Soldiers Joy (I know this is also played as a Hornpipe)/ Sonny Martin/ St Anne's/ Star of Munster/ Swallowtail/ Tarbolton/ Wind that shakes the Barley.
JIGS:
Blackthorn/Black Rogue/ Boys of the Town/ Bridge of Athlone/Come Haste to the Wedding/ The Cat that Ate the Candle/ Dingle Regatta/ Gates of Derry/ Going to the Well for Water/ Hartican's/ Humours of Glandart/ the Kesh Jig/ Irish Washerwoman/ Lark on the Strand/ Lark in the Morning/ Merrily Danced the Quaker's Wife/ Monaghan's/ Sacows/ Top of the Old Cork Road (aka Father O'Flynns's)/ Trip to the Cottage/ a couple of trebles no one knows the name to.
HORNPIPES:
The Ballroom Favorite/ Boys e Hill/ Flowers of Antrim/ Galway/ Greencastle/ Harvest Home/ Kingston/ Liverpool/ Londonderry/ Off to California/ Plains of Boyle/ Quarrelsome Piper/ Sandlark/ + at least 4 others I don't know the names to.
MARCHES:
Wearing of the Green/ Boys of the Old Brigade/ Kelly the Boy from Kilarne/ Moon Behind the Hill/ Roddy McCorley/ Centenary March/ MInstrel Boy
Don't forget to throw in the odd Polka i.e. Maggie in the Woods & the Rattling Bog, a waltz or two, Rosin the Beau/ Rose of Aranmore/ Old Claddagh Ring and then add all the songs. Best of luck
Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: alison
Date: 06 Aug 98 - 08:16 PM

hi,

Lannigan's ball, Boys from the blue hill.

Slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Aug 98 - 10:00 PM

Jaisus Mick, you let him off easy.

O'Neill's Favorite Hornpipe, Roche's Favorite, Planxty Irwin, Planxty Mary O'Neill, Colonel Frazier, Patsy Touhy, If Sick Is It Tea you Want, The Humors of Tralibane, Bonnie Dundee, Andy De Jarlis, Masons Apron, St. Anne's Reel.

There you go, boyo. Drop us a line next week and we'll get you some more.

Big Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: alison
Date: 07 Aug 98 - 01:46 AM

Hi,

You're probably getting sorry you asked by now.

The Butterfly, King of the fairies.

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Benjamin Bodhra/nai/
Date: 07 Aug 98 - 03:20 AM

What do you mean a couple of Polkas? How about :

Siege of Ennis/Dashing White Sergeant/Scarterglen/The ballydesmonds (all three)/Denis Murphy's/The 40 pound float.

And don't forget the slides.

O'Keefe's (two of them) /cock o' the north/sweets of may/denis murphy's.

If you ever come across a book called "Begged, Borrowed and Stolen" an Australian publication that seems to have been copied an infinite amount of times, you'll get about 100 tunes that are used fairly extensively. I have heard that it is floating around in the States, so someone at a session may have it.

the best way to learn is to turn up, listen, ask for the names of tunes that are popular with the players, and then learn them either by ear at the session, by taping sessions, getting the sheet music (and there are about 8,500 tunes in ABC format on the web of which at least 5000 must be Irish/Scottish) or a combination of all three.

Gee have fun!!!!

BB


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: judy
Date: 07 Aug 98 - 04:05 AM

Alot of it really depends on the group you hang out with. Standards change with the jammers. Ask the people you want to play with

enjoy! judy


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Maelgwyn
Date: 07 Aug 98 - 02:18 PM

There are two O'Keefe's Slides? I only know one. It's a good tune. :) But my favorite tune by far is 'Jenny's Welcome to Charlie.'


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Maelgwyn
Date: 07 Aug 98 - 02:20 PM

And 'The Road to Lisdoonvarna'.


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
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Date: 08 Aug 98 - 01:26 PM

Did anyone mention Lord Inchiquin, George Brabazon, Hewlett? What about John Ryan's polka with Dennis Murphys? (And does that make what some people refer to as a "Handy")

Frank Phillips


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Stacy
Date: 08 Aug 98 - 08:22 PM

Jon W., I, also, have never sat in on an authentic Irish session. I do however gather with a group of friends and we play music (some Irish) for our own fun and for some special occasions. This has been an interesting thread to me.

Does anyone include any of these in their sessions?:

Banish Misfortune; Galopede; Hag at the Churn; Old Hag at the Kiln; Sheebeg and Sheemore; Fanny Power; Give Me Your Hand; Smash the Windows; Dancing Master; Liberty; Sleep Soond in da Mornin; Juice of Barley; Have a Drink With Me; Kesh Jig; Morrison's Jig; Morpeth Rant; Rakes of Kildare; Hewlett; Halting March; Coleraine; Connaughtman's Rambles; After the Battle of Aughrim; Off to California; Rights of Man; Ducks on a Pond; Kitchen Girl; Over the Waterfall; Angeline the Baker; Staten Island Hornpipe; Pigeon on a Gate; Red Haired Boy; Petronella; Scully's Reel; Brian O'Lynn; Farewell to Whiskey.

What about songs? No one has listed songs commonly heard at Irish sessions. How about it?

Stacy


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Tinwhistler
Date: 08 Aug 98 - 08:50 PM

Yes, Stacy, we do many of those.

some songs we like (many are Scottish):

The Blacksmith, Suil a Ruin, Come By the Hills, She Moved Through the Fair, Skye Boat Song, The Newry Highwayman, Kellswater, The Fisherman, Two Sisters, The Wind that Shakes the Barley, Helen of Kirkconnel, Adieu Lovely Nancy, The Jug of Punch.


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Barry Finn
Date: 09 Aug 98 - 11:53 AM

At many seesions it depends on what the core has a personnal preference for & sometimes where the core comes from, they may prefere to play reels & planxtys where others may like jigs & horbpipes. I've never really found polkas to be a strong part of any session. Some sessions discourage singing as some discourage certain instrunments, others wecolme all. Here in Boston you'll find a favorite session for fiddles, for singing, for slow airs & hornpipes, for straight jigs & reels. for the very good & not so very good, for the snoobish. Boston sessions have been home to some of the best, Seamus Connelly, Johnny Cunningham, Jerry O'Sullivan, Paddy Cronin, Joe Derraine, & I've found that it's been most welcoming of new material & new blood & of the very good & the new. Years ago (maybe 20) I had been a regular at a session & would be called to sing, I was new to the bodhran at the time & wouldn't bring it in till I got some experence under my belt, when I did start to bring it in, I'd only play on the slower tunes & play it under the table at that so not to bother the better players. Seamus Connelly (who I consider one of the worlds best Irish fiddlers) began to single me out to back him up or to play louder so I could be heard, it was encouragement, it was not because of my playing abilities, so a beginner can find that even in the company of the best you can find the best company. Barry


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Mick Lowe
Date: 09 Aug 98 - 06:15 PM

Jon,
Where are you? i.e. Geographical wise, we might be able to give you more guidance. If you're in the UK then we certainly can. If you're in the States then the aforegone threads will no doubt put you on the true path.
Cheers
Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Jon W.
Date: 10 Aug 98 - 12:13 PM

I am in the States, Utah to be specific. While it's not exactly a hotbed of Celtic music, there are at least a handful of good bands here. The local acoustic music association advertises a "Celtic Jam" that is held monthly (or is it weekly?). I probably should go to a few of those (without an instrument) to hear what they play. I'm not so familiar yet with the tunes that I could name more than a dozen from hearing them. I can see I'll need a lot more practice and experience before I'm ready to join in, though.

Thanks again,
Jon W.


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Pendragn13
Date: 12 Aug 98 - 05:48 PM

Jon! Victoria BC has tons of Celtic music!!! Think about it... Canada is an immigrant country with tons of people from Cork to Killkelly! If you are every looking to take the band on the road... look up to Vancouver Island! I am sure that we can give you that true Irish Pub feel! My band has been touring, doing everthing from Morrison's to Johnny jump up and the response has been Great! If you need more info let me know

Pendragn13


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Jon W.
Date: 12 Aug 98 - 05:57 PM

Pendragn13, my aunt lives in Sequim WA, just across the straits from Victoria...Next time we visit her we'll have to come over and give a listen...meanwhile I've planned to go to two Celtic concerts next week. The first features two local bands - one is a trio of three teenage brothers on harp, fiddle & cello. I've seen 'em before and they are great. The other is several sisters and their dad on various instruments fiddle, whistle, etc. My wife saw them last week and was very enthusiastic. The second concert is by none other than the great Irish band Altan!


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: The Tinwhistler's Mutha
Date: 12 Aug 98 - 08:36 PM

Geeze...!
Stick with Alison and Tinwhistler's picks.

The rest just seem to be naming every Celtic tune they can think of...

Not a very helpfull bunch of blowhards are they?

I assume that you wish to play in a session before you learn 250 new tunes, so try these:
Lannigan's ball,
Boys from the blue hill,
The Butterfly,
King of the fairies,
Sheebeg and Sheemore,
Fanny Power,
The Road to Lisdoonvarna,
The Ballydesmond Polka,
[don't worry about the other three that are often incorrectly referred to as "the Bally Desmond Polkas"(plural)]
Rocky Road to Dublin,
Over the Waterfall,[actually an American tune, but very common.]
The Parting Glass,
Banish Misfortune,
The Star of County Down,
The Lark in The Morning,
Oh The Brithes Full of Stitches,
Bridget O'Malley,
Bonnie Kellswater,
Kelly the Boy from Kilane
The Minstrel Boy,
Sheebeg and Sheemore,
Rosin The Beau,
The Black Velvet Band,
Planxty Irwin,

I think that every one will agree that if you learn this list you will find that most of the musicians at any session will know them, and will be happy to play them with you. [And they are not too difficult to learn.] The other tunes previously list ARE also very popular and would make great additions to your repetoire, eventually. I hope that this is helpfull... Dan


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Kiwi
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 12:28 AM

My cousins had pity on me. When I expressed interest in perhaps going to a session or a ceili with them sometime in the fall, they simply dumped a photocopy of an ENTIRE book on me and told me that everything's played at quadruple time. So I have about 250 songs or so at fingertip. I just have to learn them well enough that I don't have to follow the music so closely. :)

Slán, Kiwi


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: alison
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 03:47 AM

Hi,

I agree with the tinwhistlers mutha. Learn a few of those tunes listed. They are always popular and the rest will join in with you, often doing elaborate harmonies which make even the simplest of tunes sound great. (Planxty Irwin being a good example of this).

I also recommend Star of the County Down because so many other songs and tunes are very similar and you'll soon pick them up.

Slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 10:17 PM

There ya go lad, I teased a little in my first message, but alison and Tinwhistlers mutha have really given you the best lists. From those you will be able to contribute to any session, while you get comfortable with the lay of the land. I would add one very small caution, and that would be to pay attention to the etiquette (sp?) of the group you are in. Some sessions are very serious affairs, while others are just good craic. I occassionally sit in on one where they don't allow the dancers in the same room with the players. I don't know you, so please don't take offense at my next comment. Remember that it is about the music, not about you being as good or better as the others. Treat "the aul ceol" with the respect it is due and you will enjoy yourself tremendously. Most players love the music and thoroughly enjoy helping others as well.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: rosebrook
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 01:06 AM

Hi Mudcatters,

You know, I really agree with Big Mick when he (she?) said, "Most players love the music and thoroughly enjoy helping others as well." I appreciated reading that. I think that's why we all chip in and offer help, and, in fact maintain threads, etc. I think this is the spirit of everyone who contributes when a question is posed. Thank you for mentioning that, Big Mick, especially after reading Tinwhistle's Mutha scold with "Geeze!....The rest just seem to be naming every Celtic tune they can think of...Not a very helpfull bunch of blowhards are they?"

I rarely contribute to threads basically because I don't know much. But, like you said Big Mick, it's only because I love the music, and really enjoy helping others that causes me to want to share! There has been informative sharing in this thread. Thanks!!

Rose


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Jon W.
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 10:54 AM

Thanks for the input guys and gals. It takes me a couple of weeks at least to get a tune in shape where I can play it through fairly well, so with 25-30 tunes it'll be two or three years before I could even hope to play. Jeez, I'll be over forty five by then. I wonder how old I'll be if I don't start learning the tunes? -)

Jon W.


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: The Tinwhistler's Mutha
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 07:23 PM

Good luck, Jon! It is worth it. I was playing alone for a year or so before my first session. What a rush....!It is like sex, much more fun with others.*grin*

Rosebrook,
I think that my scold was justified....it seemed to me that the others were not attempting to be helpfull, they were being elitist. In much the same way that a fly-fisherman will pretenend that there is a big mystery or excessive difficulty to his hobby so that he or she can feel superior to the non fly-fisherman. (I have seen a lot of that, I used to run a fly shop.)
So I felt compelled to call them on it. I was not harsh nor rude about it, and I am unabashedly unapologetic.Dan


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 10:25 PM

You are welcome Rose. Mudcat is indeed a wonderful resource and as I have said many times in other threads, I don't know enough ways to thank those that bring it to us. I am working on a song about it. (irish flair, of course)

Danny Boy, I understand your last comment, but I did feel that you were being a wee bit judgemental and elitist yourself. I assume that when someones contributes, their motives are sound. I know that when I left my first list, it was an attempt to mix up some popular stuff, with a few favorites, such as the planxty's. But I think you meant well, and your comments were well taken.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: The Tinwhistler's Mutha
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 10:37 AM

Mickey Mouse,
Yeah....right.I think that the phrase
"get 250 under your belt and you might stand a chance"
is elitist ,and deliberately intended to make a beginner feel like he or she is not at your level.I had no disagreement with the popularity or entertainment value of the tunes that you offered, just that there were too many and that many were not beginner tunes, again I feel that that was intended to make yourself appear superior to our novice friends.

Now, just what was elitist about my list?
"Danny Boy?"

p.s. If I were you I would avoid persuing this disagreement further, lest you wish to be made the fool.


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 12:48 PM

First off Dan, I am easy to make a fool of. I am a simple kind of guy who just loves the music. Unlike some folks that seem to have a pompous know it all kind of approach to it.

Number two, what seemed a tad bit elitist, at least to this simple son of the sod, about your comment was that it seemed to imply that everyone but you and alison were being less than sincere in the music they offered. When one attains your level of cosmic consciousness I guess it is OK to make judgements of others motives. For us simple folk it seems a bit much.

Number three, in your last posting you had to resort to sarcastic names and cynical references. One of the courtesies that we simple folk try to observe on the old Mudcat is to maintain civility as we exchange the music.

Oh, and by the way, I know your schedule and all must have not allowed full, complete, and magnificent to behold, concentration, but you had me mixed up with another. You see, I offered only twelve tunes. It was another gentle soul with the first name of Mick that referenced 250.

So destroy me if you must, your high holiness. To be sure, I will be missed by few but they will have fond memories.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 02:18 PM

Jon, you might also check around your area and see if anyone is offering "Slow Jams". As far as I am concerned these are a gift from heaven. I think they are a fairly recent innovation (at least by that name). Also heard em called "Baby Jams".
What they are is an opportunity for you to go and request a tune, and get it played by someone who knows it - several times and at quarter speed or less.
Ones I have gone to in the SF Bay area request that noone play along the first time to allow everyone to listen to that version, and also to allow taping of the tune. After that it gets played multiple times slowly.
If you know others with more tunes under their belts, you might think about organizing, sponsoring a Slow Jam.
Many festivals, camps and workshops have them too.
Learning fast tunes can be a real challenge for a beginner. The other trick I use is a computer music program (I use MusicTime) where I can enter the tune on sheet music and then set it to play at whatever speed I am comfortable with.
Hope this helps.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 03:10 PM

Barbara,

Great idea on the computer music program. You say you use Music Time. Are there others that you are aware of that are as good or better than the one you are using? Is "Music Time" available for download somewhere?

Thanks,

Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 07:45 PM

Well, I paid money for mine and ordered it in the mail. My brother uses Cakewalk, which I think is shareware. And there's that Basic program around - still? - somewhre probably free.
Music time is the simple version of something called Encore, and there's another set of music programs around called, Symphony? something like that. Tell you what, Mick, I'll start a thread and ask what people here use.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Tinwhistler's Mutha
Date: 16 Aug 98 - 12:48 AM

Mick,
I knew you would have to try....
I apologize for confusing you with the other Mick. I thought that there was only one. And you must admit that if there was only one that was responsible for both of your postings that that person was being a prick.
As for my calling you names...."Mickey Mouse" was clearly a response to "Danny Boy."
So I stand corrected you were not the elitist prick that attempted to belittle Jon under the guise of being helpful. Initially you encouraged that behavior, but later you repented your ways. But only after a scolding. But knowing that there were more than one I confess my error and do apologize to you.

I have often heard that same bullshit about how mudcatters "maintain civility"....they seldom do. They just disguise their rudeness behind big words and haughty language, while professing to be "simple folk." The hypocrisy of that is detestable. Dan


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 Aug 98 - 12:28 PM

Your apology is accepted. As to the response to "Danny Boy", I honestly did not intend it in a sarcastic manner but since offense was taken, let me offer my sincerest apologies. I meant no offense.

As to the remainder of your message, and your inability to express yourself in a civil manner, I rest my case.

I have no more to say on the matter. Let us stick to the music.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From:
Date: 16 Aug 98 - 06:04 PM

You rest your case? My message was more civil than yours.


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Kiwi
Date: 16 Aug 98 - 08:06 PM

Boys, boys! This list isn't about pointing the finger at someone, it's about sharing music. Can we please drop the my-message-is-more-civil contest and get back to the original intent of this thread, which is to share music?

Slán, Kiwi


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Big Mick
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 09:47 AM

Thank you Kiwi, I agree. It seems I also should apologize to the rest of the Mudcatters for allowing myself to be drawn into this silly exercise. So, I apologize to all of you for this useless exchange.

To Jon, I hope you enjoy all the songs you have seen listed. Jump in and begin playing. One idea, if you are somewhat intimidated about beginning with very experienced players, might be to begin your own gathering with people of like interest and experience and invite a few experienced people to sit in now and again. Tell them that it is a gathering of players who are new to it and willing to learn. I would bet they will enjoy it and be eager to come and share the wealth. And Jon, to you especially, please accept my apologies for cluttering up a fine thread with the useless diatribe that you saw above.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Jon W.
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 12:05 PM

To Mick, Dan, et. al. I have two words: Peace, Brothers. Thanks again for your responses.

To Barbara: Thanks for the Slow Jam suggestion, I'll look into it. I have a hard time finding anyone in my circle of friends who are even interested in making any music let alone something as exotic as Irish dance tunes. I need to expand my circle, obviously.

Also on playing songs slow, here's another trick. If you have a CD with a particular tune that's just to fast to learn by ear, you can use standard Windows software to slow it down. Put it in your CD-Rom drive, use Sound Recorder to record it to your computer memory, then decrease speed by 1/2 and play it back. It will be an octave lower but that's not much of a problem. This is easier than entering the score. Due to the huge size of the recorded sound, you probably only would want to record 10 - 30 seconds of the tune in one file. I've done this with a CD of tunes that came with a clawhammer banjo book and it really helped. Of course if you have one hooked up to your sound card, a tape recorder would also work.

Ah, if only my life didn't keep interfering with my time.

Jon W.


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Laoise
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 10:13 AM

Jon W.

Thanks for your idea for slowing down tunes on the computer. I never would have thought of that. My students will find that especially useful and it means I don't have to record tunes at extra slow speed for them.

As for playing in Irish Trad sessions: Knowing vast amounts of tunes is all very well but if you are not used to playing in sessions it probably won't be all that useful. Sessions are noisy (well they are over here anyway) and you can barely hear yourself. You can usually hear the bodhran or the pipes better than you can your own instrument (I play fiddle). Also people in sessions tend to play tunes much faster than you expect them to be played. Sometimes the tunes are variations of tunes you may find in books or on recordings.

When I started playing at sessions I knew very few tunes. I persisted in attending sessions and gradually I picked up a few on the way. I continued to learn tunes at home but I found that I only consolidated my knowledge of those tunes once I played them in sessions. What many people do is put a wee tape recorder on the table of a good session and learn tunes from them later. The problem there is you don't know the names of the tunes. However you find that most players only know the names to a fraction of the tunes they play.

Certainly learn tunes at home but try and get to as many sessions, as regularly as possible. Listen to lots of tapes/cd's of tunes and totally immerse yourself in the music style. There are no easy ways to learn to play but it is worth the effort. There is no better feeling than when you lead a set in a session and everyone plays your tunes!

If you really are interested in learning Irish tunes in particular, find a festival - even come over this side of the Atlantic and go to some of the West Ireland festivals. There are usually classes all day and sessions all day and all night for the alcoholic insomniac.

Slan,

Laoise.

P.S. it has been a long time since i last replied to a thread - nearly a year - hello to all my old friends and pleased to see you still submitting. Apologies for my absence!


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Dan Mulligan
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 10:59 AM

Laoise, I have long wondered...........how do you pronounde "Laoise?"


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Tinwhistler
Date: 20 Aug 98 - 11:56 AM

Jon, Thank you very much for the tip on slowing down music! Now I can figure out some tunes I've been working on.

I've always wanted to join in on a "real" session. I keep telling myself--"When I get better, I'll try..." Well, I'm 36 and I wonder when I ever think I'll be "good enough?"

Maybe you should just jump in. You know one tune well-it's a start. You'll pick up more as you go, I'm sure.

Now--if only I could take my own advice!!!


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Barbara
Date: 20 Aug 98 - 01:07 PM

One other thing I do in sessions when I am trying to learn a tune is hang out on the fringe with a whistle in the appropriate key, and start sticking in the octave notes as they come round, and then some of the inbetween ones, leaving the runs till last. I find I can sometimes learn a whole tune this way in a session (and then be totally unable to reproduce it alone).[grin]
Playing this way kicks my intuition into high gear, and sometimes I am amazed by what my hands know if I'm not thinking about it.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: alison
Date: 20 Aug 98 - 09:51 PM

Bout ye Laoise,

Long time no see. Welcome back.

Dan it (Laoise) is pronounced Lee-sha.

Slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Alice
Date: 06 May 00 - 09:43 AM

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Subject: RE: Essential Irish Session Tunes
From: Alice
Date: 06 May 00 - 09:48 AM

Marion, a tip to keep track of this thread in case you haven't tried it yet... click on trace and it will be saved to your personal page.

Alice


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Subject: Looking for Laoise
From: Felipa
Date: 01 Mar 04 - 04:17 PM

I want to get in touch with Laoise, who wrote at length on this thread. I don't know whether or not she's still in Belfast. In another thread she mentions studying for a PhD at Queen's U, and she should be finished with that by not.Laoise hasn't written at Mudcat for some time. So if anyone can help me make contact, please p-mail me.

Meanwhile, I suppose someone will have more to say about sessions.


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