Subject: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Midchuck Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:25 PM So us Woodchucks have a gig friday for a wedding rehearsal dinner cookout. It's in Vermont, but a bunch of family members are from Kentucky, and they asked if we could do, among others, My Old Kentucky Home. I knew the melody but not most of the words. I found them in Best Loved Songs of the American People. The second line of the first verse is: "Tis Summer, the darkies are gay." I've never thought much of political correctness, but this seems like a record for offending the most people with the smallest number of words. Do I sing it as written....? Peter. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Jeri Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:39 PM The version in the DT says "all the folks are gay," but I think it's inaccurate. Maybe "some of us are gay" or "and I'm getting old and gray" or "let's go roll around the hay" |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: katlaughing Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:53 PM Or...it's time to make hay! Personally, I wouldn't use the original line. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Kim C Date: 18 Aug 03 - 01:36 PM Mister and I have also faced this quandary, and here's what we do. We play it as an instrumental. The melody is lovely, and people who know the words will sing along as they wish. Darkies aside, it's a long song with a lot of verses and it's sad. I did ask a friend who is the education director at a historic site in Kentucky, if we could perform it as written. Her answer to me was, "It's an 1850 event and those are the 1850 words. If anyone has a problem with it, send 'em to me." Sometimes it just depends on where you are. But for the reasons I mentioned above - we still did it as an instrumental. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 18 Aug 03 - 02:00 PM From some of the old threads: Giac's Suggestion |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,Kilgarry Date: 18 Aug 03 - 05:09 PM The way it is sung at University of Kentucky ballgames (even by Happy Chandler, former Governor) is "the people are gay" |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Jim Dixon Date: 18 Aug 03 - 06:40 PM I'd say definitely don't sing "darkies" but you might get away with "gay." "Gay" will make the kids giggle, assuming they're paying attention to the words. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 18 Aug 03 - 07:02 PM In the sessions here (south coast of Ireland) the singers I've heard do it as "It's summer and everyone is gay", though there's no way I know of to get around the unintended double-meaning of "gay" unless you just plain change it. "The folks all sing and play"??? |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: LadyJean Date: 18 Aug 03 - 07:08 PM I will always remember the way the guy we called "Sugar Bear" sang it at Transylvania College, in Lexington, KY. At our first rehearsal, he sang Foster's original word, and, immediately changed it to "Young folks." |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: masato sakurai Date: 18 Aug 03 - 07:08 PM The state song of Kentucky version has adopted "the people are gay" in 1986. For nearly 130 years the song remained unchanged from its original publication. But in March, 1986, a group of Japanese students visiting the Kentucky General Assembly changed the song forever. To pay their respects, the group sang "My Old Kentucky Home." Upon hearing the phrase, " 'Tis summer, the darkies are gay," Representative Carl Hines (Democrat-Louisville), the only black member of the House, was quoted as saying that the lyrics of the rendition "convey connotations of racial discrimination that are not acceptable." Within the week, he sponsored a bill which the House passed, House Resolution 159, which officiated the modern lyrics with the line, " 'Tis summer the people are gay." Hines substantiated the bill, citing that the original lyrics were offensive, showing no respect toward African-Americans. (From here) |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Bonnie Shaljean Date: 18 Aug 03 - 07:14 PM There's also the verse with the line "The time has come when the darkies have to part" which can be sung as "The time has come when old friends have to part" or "old friends must all depart". I think all the suggestions made in this thread are in keeping with the spirit of the song, and don't believe the changes do it any harm. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Amos Date: 18 Aug 03 - 07:21 PM Wel, that's a good thing, being considerate and all. But ya gotta be real clear that you are singing a different song than the one Stephen Foster wrote in 1850, or whenever. So I guess whoever is paying the piper should choose which song they want to hear. A |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,Bo in KY Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:02 PM I have it in a collection somewhere (from the '70s, perhaps, but I'm guessing the version from mid-20th century) as "'tis summer, the workers are gay" Perhaps conveys more of the original meaning without the offensive wording. Mayhap not.... |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:49 PM In regards to George's link above, I *think* I saw "the children are gay" written in a program somewhere, possibly at a UK football game RECENTLY. Hear Happy Chandler's version here. GO BIG BLUE!!!!! |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:59 PM Peter, I forgot..........it's a nice touch to sing "Weep no more my lady" acapella. Everybody knows the words. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Sleepless Dad Date: 18 Aug 03 - 11:08 PM There was a special about Stephen Foster on PBS awile back. If I remember correctly "darkies" was considered a polite term at the time. Much better than the other words that were used then. And Stephen Foster was given a hard time about mentioning blacks in such a nice way in so many songs. But of course this is 2003 - I wouldn't use the term either. Depending on the audience I might be tempted to mention in the introduction of this song that changes were made - what they were and why. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: dick greenhaus Date: 19 Aug 03 - 12:00 AM If you must bowdlerize, at least try to retain the sense of the song. THe darkies weren't just "people", "children" , or "workers"--they were slaves Goddam it!. If you must sing it, try "..the slaves were all gay". And if gay slaves offend you, just hum the damn song. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,Cranky Yankee Date: 19 Aug 03 - 02:24 AM BRAVO, MR GREENHOUSE. Steven Foster was no racist, and at the time the song was written, "Darky" was no more an insult than "Black Man" is today. Let me refer you to the song, "INGDOM COMING, The year of the Jubilo", written by Henry Clay Work who's father spent some time in prison for helping thousnads, YES THOUSANDS of slaves to freedom on the underground railway. Mr Clay was a "fire-breathing dragon" of an abolitionist. As far as I can remember them, the words to Kingdom Coming, which he deliberately wrote in "Darky dialect". By the way, Dick, he was from Hartford, born in Middletown, Connecticut. (note: the "Muff-stash" was an attempt by "ol Massa, to disguise himself) KINGDOM COMING (Henry Clay Work) I Hey, Darkies, hab you seen ol' massa Wit de muff-stash on his face Goin down the road some time dis mornin like he gwine to leave dis place Must hab seen de smoke from down de ribber Whar the Lincoln Gunboats lay He took his hat an' lef' verry sudden An I 'spect he's run away (chorus) DE MASSA' RUN, HA HA DE DARKEYS STAY, HO HO It mus' be the time ob de Kingdom comin' an' de year ob de Jubilo! II He's six feet one way, two feet t'odder An' he weigh three hunbdred pounds His coat so big he couldn't pay de tailor, An it only goes half way roun' He drill so much dey call him Cap'n An' he got so dreadfull tanned I 'spec' he's try an' fool dem Yamkees For to t'ink he's contraband! (repeat chorus) III De Darkies feel so lonesome libbin' In de log house on de lawn Dey move dar t'ings intuh massa's parlor For to keep it while he's gone Dere's wine an' cider in de kitchen an de Darkeys dey'll hab some I suppose it'll all be confiscated When de Lincfoln soldiers come (repeat chorus) IV De Oberseer he make us trouble An' he drive us round a spell We lock him up in de smoke-house cellar Wid' de key trown down de well De whip is lost, de han-cuffs broken De massa, he'll hab his pay He's old enough, wise enough, ought to know better Dan to went an run away (chorus) So, how does this grab you? Does this, in the slightest, suggest that Henry Clay Work was a racist? Don't insult Steven Foster by suggesting that he was "Politically incorrect" Do you know who I think ought to read the entire "My old Kentucky Home", the idiots who run the Kentucky Derby I think Clay also wrote, "We're Coming From the Cotton Fields" Do yourselves a favor and type in, "Henry Clay Work" in the "keywords" place and click on "GO" Then revise your opinion about Steven Foster's song lyrics. He also wrote, "Marching through Georgia" and "Ring the Bell, Watchman" the origin of the sea song, Strike the Bell" Ring the Bell Watchman heralded the end of the Civil war and the triumph of good over evil. (repeat chorus) |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,Scabby Douglas Date: 19 Aug 03 - 04:41 AM It's not only old songs that have this problem. Kate and Anna McGarrigle's "Work Song" uses the word "darkies" in a song that reminisces about songs like "Old Kentucky Home" and the fact that for a number of reasons, these songs are out of fashion, or difficult to use. "Songs that may no longer please us, 'Bout the darkies, about Jesus. Mississippi minstrels the colour of molasses Strummin' on their banjos, to entertain the masses" I have tried to sing this songs a ouple of times, and still find it difficult to work out how to do this. Cheers Steven |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Escamillo Date: 19 Aug 03 - 06:17 AM This is a song I love. Let me ask a question: isn't the singer impersonating a black man, in this song ?? I would bet he IS black, and he is calling "darkies" the people of his own race and social condition. On the other hand, "gay" means joyful. I think that the use of euphemisms may be more offensive than the original lyrics, just because the differentiation is so visible. I've sung this song always to white audiences (who love black songs here in Buenos Aires), should I be careful if some day I sing it for a black, or mixed audience ? Ok, probably I will not, not because of the color problem, but becasue of the quality. It would be the same as going to sing Neapolitan songs to people in Naples. Un abrazo, Andrés |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: greg stephens Date: 19 Aug 03 - 07:19 AM masato's post about passing a law to change the words of the song. there is a story you keep hearing(I dont know if it's true) that someone passed a law in America(or possibly tried to pass a law) to say that pi should equal 3. Using the law to change the words of a song seems to come into a similar category: tthe change might be very convenient, but you do kind of wonder if the law can be made to apply to this sort of thing. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: masato sakurai Date: 19 Aug 03 - 07:45 AM From American Experience: Stephen Foster: Should we change Foster's songs to remove their racist aspects, or not perform them? |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Amos Date: 19 Aug 03 - 08:51 AM I wonder if it can be said that those who are ashamed of their history are doomed to repeat it. Not a wise proposition surely, in an era of wholesale corrections of the past by the PC crowd, and newspeak re-writing history by the "right or wrong" faction centered in DC. I view both these impulses as double plus ungood, myself. I'm with Nancy Griffith; I believe that altering the past is unworthy and unprofitable. Of course, you can just stop using those songs or poems or words which you don't want to use. But that's a different proposition altogether. A |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: greg stephens Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:01 AM There is a famous photo of the great engineer Isembard Kingdom Brunel. He is standing in front of a large boat he has built, with massive chains hanging behind him. His top hat is at a jaunty angle, and he is holding a large cigar. There is a maritime museum in England where there is large reproduction of this picture in pride of place. But the image of the offending cigar has been carefully removed by some skilful computer manipulator. Sing the songs, or dont sing the songs. But I don't think rewriting them is an honest option. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,Melani Date: 19 Aug 03 - 04:10 PM Times and fashions change. If the original words to a song you are about to sing contain something that is likely to offend somebody, then change 'em. I believe that is known as the folk process. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 19 Aug 03 - 04:49 PM No, it isn't; it's called editorial intervention. The deliberate alteration of a song with a known author (whether justified or not) is not what the much-abused term "folk process" was coined for. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Kim C Date: 19 Aug 03 - 04:50 PM Well, then you get into history vs. PC... if you change the words, will you lose what the author was trying to convey? Old Kentucky Home is a minstrel song, and minstrel music was hugely popular in America in the mid-19th-century. Because of its use of what we now consider inaccurate racial stereotypes, it is rarely studied seriously in spite of the fact that it had a huge influence on the popular music of the time. Stephen Foster and Dan Emmett were some of the first people to actually make a living at songwriting, and they got started with minstrel music. I stand by my first suggestion - play it as an instrumental and if people in the audience want to sing along, let 'em. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,Q Date: 19 Aug 03 - 05:07 PM We can always hope that someday people will become mature enough that they can sing, study, talk about and accept the past without rewriting it. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Amos Date: 19 Aug 03 - 05:46 PM Kim, I like your suggestion, assuming there is context for playing it. We cana lways hope, surely, but sometyimes ya gotta lean on 'em a little bit... A |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Escamillo Date: 20 Aug 03 - 02:46 AM The text below was taken from "Biographical Sketch", Center for American Music, University of Pittsburgh, at: http://www.pitt.edu/~amerimus/foster.htm Should we consider Foster's lyrics only as a generous concession by a white composer impersonating black men ? What do African-Americans think of this ? I know of one, at least, from whom I heard these songs for the first time, who had sung them with deep respect and emotion, with their full original lyrics: Maestro Paul Robeson, the opposite to racism and elitism, and to silly lyrics, and to white color, indeed. Un abrazo, Andrés ------------ At first, Foster wrote ballads and dances for parlor singers and pianists as well as minstrel songs, often referred to as "Ethiopian" songs, for professional theatrical performers. The minstrel songs, like the ballads, had simple melodies and accompaniments, but their texts, written in dialect, depicted African-American slaves as simple, good-natured creatures. Some of his earliest minstrel texts even had crude caricatures and terms, i.e. "Away Down Souf" (1848) and one verse that was later deleted form "Oh! Susanna." But as Foster grew more ambivalent about the earlier "Ethiopian" songs, he began offering a different image, that of the black as a human being experiencing pain, love, joy, even nostalgia. "Nelly Was a Lady" (1849) is an eloquent lament of a slave for his loved one who has died, apparently the first song written by a white composer for the white audience of the minstrel shows that portrays a black man and woman as loving husband and wife, and insists on calling the woman a "lady," which was a term reserved for well-born white women. "Angelina Baker" (1851) similarly laments a slave who has been sent away by "old Massa." "Ring, Ring de Banjo!" (1851), despite its apparent surface of frivolity, has the slave/singer leaving the plantation "while the ribber's running high," a reference to escaping while the bloodhounds could not pick up his scent, and traveling to freedom on the Underground Railroad. "Old Folks at Home" (1851), which was to become the most popular of all Foster's songs, conveys a sentiment that had almost universal appeal--yearning for lost home, youth, family, and happiness. Increasingly, the "Ethiopian" songs used the same musical style that Foster created for his parlor ballads. ----------------- |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 20 Aug 03 - 06:48 AM This is a fascinating discussion- I often run into this issue as a music teacher. I tend to lean towards preserving Foster's original words and talking to the audience (or class) about the song, the composer, and the history. But we have to remember that Midchuck's original question refers to the fact that this is a wedding rehearsal cookout- not a good time to educate the audience! There'll be folks sitting around listening, but others talking, playing ball, having a good social time- the "half-not-listening ear" could pick up a word like "darkies" having heard nothing of the disclaimer before the song. In a case like this, I would advocate a simple change from "darkies" to "young folks", "people", "androids", or whatever seems appropriate- save historical integrity for a more focused concert setting! |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Midchuck Date: 20 Aug 03 - 07:17 AM My conclusion: I'll either skip it, or do it as an instrumental, or sing it as written if nobody's really listening anyway, or sing it as written after lecturing about my reasons for doing so if anyone is listening. My reasoning: The words as written are in fact likely to be taken the wrong way - without any understanding of the historical changes in word meanings. If it were a true folk song - where the author were "anon." or "trad." - I could change the words and claim I was "part of the folk process." Since it has a definite author, as a matter of common decency, I need the author's permission to change the words. I can't get such permission because the author's dead. The idea of the Kentucky legislature taking it upon themselves to change the words only means that the Kentucky legislature are a pack of...but what legislature isn't? I thank you all for your input, though. Peter. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Rapparee Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:10 AM For what it's worth, a friend of mine born and bred in Kentucky, as were her family for several generations back, felt that the change in words legislated by the State was a very good thing. She felt that within the State there was still too much racial hatred to sing it as written at football games, etc. As a single mother she has her hands full anyway, as an African-American she was proud of her heritage and history, as someone whose roots were deep in the soil of Kentucky she was proud of her State -- and most, but by no means all, of its history. When I found records of slave sales in Newport, Kentucky she and I nearly cried together even though the sales were in 1808 ("Two negro boys, ages 6 and 8..."). I'd do it as a long, sad, instrumental. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,Bo in KY Date: 20 Aug 03 - 09:00 AM Just a comment on the tension between "historical accuracy" and the "folk process". I don't think the fact that there is a definite author forbids anyone from changing the words. "Puff the Magic Dragon" has a definite, living author yet I would bet there are as many variants as there are youth summer camps in the U.S. Are they "wrong"? What about the dialect in which Foster wrote the song? Is it historically inaccurate, and an abuse of the song, to sing "the" for "de" or "have" for "hab", etc.?? I say there is enough documentation in archives/songbooks that people can know what the original lyrics were if they wish to look. If the song is a beloved and living part of the people's music, it can and will be adapted to fit a contemporary situation. FWIW, Mr. Emerson writes above that "the obvious racial epithets ... are still typical of our time today". In my experience, I have never heard anyone, outside of singing a Stephen Foster song, use the term "darkies". I'm sure I would be outraged if they did. Bo |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: RangerSteve Date: 20 Aug 03 - 09:16 AM I heard Garrison Keillor sing it, using the line "'tis summer, the clouds roll away". I've been using that line ever since. No one's been offended yet. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: greg stephens Date: 20 Aug 03 - 09:17 AM Bo in Ky: the word "darkies" appears many times in this thread, and in others. Suely the context of a word is what determines whether it is offensive, not just the word itself. I have heard the word used many many times in my life, sometimes offensively, sometimes not; and on the maore awkward occasions(such as those we are discussing here) when one group of people find it offensive, and one group doesnt. This is not a problem with an easy solution. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Kim C Date: 20 Aug 03 - 09:44 AM Bo, you didn't know Miss Jane. Miss Jane lived next door to my grandmother years ago in Cecelia, Kentucky. She was in her 80s when I was a little girl, which means she was born sometime before 1900. She had some little black figurines on her mantel she called "darkies." I believe someone already mentioned that once upon a time, "darkie" was the considered the polite counterpart to "nigger." I also believe, if memory serves me correctly, that Foster composed a few songs containing that particular word as well. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: RichM Date: 20 Aug 03 - 11:28 AM I've been singing "folk songs for 40+ years. I will not sing lyrics that are offensive to 1)me 2)a social/cultural/racial group Works for me! Rich |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Kim C Date: 20 Aug 03 - 11:39 AM Well, Rich, that's sort of my philosophy... I don't want to offend anyone on a cultural level, and I don't want to offend anyone on a historical level either. So I either don't do the song, or just play it as an instrumental. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 20 Aug 03 - 12:01 PM If one MUST bowdlerize this great old song, seems to me that the best substitute for "darkies" is "home-folks". "The people" is just took generic, and somehow, although in two syllables, just doesn't have the right cadence. And as to "gay", it has its old meaning still, and I (for one) refuse to abandon it just because it has been widely misapplied in the modern day. The context makes clear, I think, that it's not that modern usage. In context, "the home-folks are gay" fits the mood of the song, although not the detailed original meaning. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: CRANKY YANKEE Date: 20 Aug 03 - 06:17 PM The Stalinist-Leninist communists had a phrase, DIALECTIC MATERIALISM. This is what they called "History as it should have been" And: WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. Hiram P. Georgensmall esq. MD DDS lld |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: dick greenhaus Date: 20 Aug 03 - 06:40 PM Or you could just rewrite the words completely and claim a copyright on words and music. Like Woody did. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST Date: 02 May 12 - 11:23 PM Take yourself pen and paper and go over the song...such as, tis summer the children are gay. Like that. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,mg Date: 03 May 12 - 12:41 AM The trouble with this song is I think anyway it is not about slaves but people who have been freed and have no real place to go. So it is not about generic people. It is about very specific people. I would never sing the N word...or say it..I am tempted to use the word "darkies" so that people know who the song is about and for, most respectfully written...but I generally don't substitute a word..I just sort of hum for a couple of notes and go on...mng |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: kendall Date: 03 May 12 - 07:58 AM My Mother never had a racist bone in her body and she referred to blacks she worked with as "Darkies". It was a term of endearment to her. She would never use the N word. PC can go too far when you change history. What was, was and you can't really change it. I have an old 78 with a song called Pickaninny's paradise. Thats what black children were called in those days. Thank god we have outlived those hateful days. I'm reminded of that old saying: "No man ever needs be a failure; he can always serve as a bad example". |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Lonesome EJ Date: 03 May 12 - 10:23 AM We used to sing "young folks" instead of "darkies". Works just fine. But does it imply the young folks are pursuing an alternative sexual lifestyle? |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,mg Date: 03 May 12 - 10:39 AM the head will bow and the back will have to bend] wherever the young foilks will go a few more miles and our troubles all will end in the fields where the sugar canes grow |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: GUEST,songbob Date: 03 May 12 - 08:21 PM "the head will bow and the back will have to bend] wherever the young foilks will go a few more miles and our troubles all will end in the fields where the sugar canes grow" MG, did you post that to show the stupidity of using the phrase "young folks" universally through the song (it works just fine in the first verse, and is absolutely wrong in this verse, where the subjects are obviously quite aged -- "a few more years to totter on the road" in the original, I think)? Because when you start changing words, you end up with having to change more of 'em as you go through the song. I'm in a Civil War reenactment ensemble, and we regularly sing "darky" where it appears. We DON'T use "nigger," but luckily, most songs with that word are pretty damn bad, anyway ("Someone's In the Kitchen with Dinah," believe it or not, is truly awful; luckily, it's not related to the lines in "I've Been Working on the Railroad"). Our thought is that "darky" is not in wide usage these days, so most people hearing it FROM PEOPLE IN PERIOD COSTUME usually "get it." If I am not doing a reenactment, I usually change to less volatile, like "It's summer, and everyone's gay" and "wherever the slave, he must go" in the last verse. But if my audience is interested in history as it happened, I will use "darky". Now, "Kingdom coming" is another story. It's really hard to change that one -- "slavey" fits the scan, but doesn't work in the singing. Bob Clayton |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Lonesome EJ Date: 04 May 12 - 12:57 AM One of the tougher calls in Folk, Bob. In the interest of accuracy, sure I get it. It boils down to how deep in character you need to be I suppose. |
Subject: RE: My Old Kentucky Home problem From: Megan L Date: 04 May 12 - 02:50 AM changing it to young folk Is ageist (not everyone is young) changing it to all the folks is musicist (what about those who like opera) Changing it to home folks is locationist (not everone is at home.) Ok I will stop now and get my coat |
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