Planxty Davis

Subject: Planxty Davis
From: Harvey
Date: 25 Nov 03 - 09:27 AM

Does anyone have the music or guitar tab for Nic Jones' arrangement of Planxty Davis?

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: GUEST,Georgia
Date: 10 Jan 04 - 08:35 AM

I found this and thought it should be refreshed.

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Helen
Date: 11 Jan 04 - 01:21 AM

Helen

Googling is a wonderful, wonderful thing:

Use Google.com with this search term, with the double quotes to search for phrases:

"Planxty Davis" "Nic Jones"

I didn't add the word   midi    but I usually do.


dots & midi

Enjoy!
Helen

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Helen
Date: 11 Jan 04 - 01:45 AM

By the way, I just had a bit of a surf around the Abacci Music site that I linked to above - not bad! Which translates out of Oz-lish into - very worthwhile. I especially like two things: one, that they have tabs, midis and dots for many of the tunes, and two, that they have a very good discography section for each tune to show which albums the tune is on, an often which books you can find them in.

Lovely!

And, a bit of a surprise, there seems to be a bit of Australian content: Sally Sloan's Varsoviana, Fred Holland's Varsoviana, Echuca Waltz, Wangaratta Waltz etc

Helen

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Little Robyn
Date: 11 Jan 04 - 01:49 AM

That sounds to me like a tune called Prestonpans - a Jacobite song from the 1745 uprising????
Robyn

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Helen
Date: 11 Jan 04 - 04:41 PM

I just listened to Planxty Davis & The Battle of Prestonpans, which is on the Mudcat Midi page, and I don't think they are similar enough. Just a similar format. The Prestonpans tune reminds me of a song which has a line something like:

He is young and cannot leave his mother.

I'm not so good on remembering lyrics and matching them up to tunes, but I noticed that on Winamp when I played that tune it showed up in the title bar as "Killiekrankie".

Helen

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Little Robyn
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 12:51 AM

I've just listened to 'The Fate o' Charlie' record, Trailer LER 3002, with Archie Fisher, Barbara Dickson & John MacKinnon.
Side 1 track 8a is a song called The Battle of Prestonpans which is followed by track 8b Killicrankie. The first is an adaptation of the second and the 2nd is exactly Planxty Davis!!! I had the midi and the record playing alongside each other and apart from a few decorative notes, the two are almost identical. Honestly!
Of course, anyone can take a tune by Turlough O'Carolan and set words to it and no doubt this has been the case for the last 300 years. Killicrankie was 1689 and Carolan was alive then - but when did it become a Jacobite tune, I wonder? Carolan was dead before the '45 uprising.
There's also another track on the record titled Prestonpans but the tune is quite different.
Robyn

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 07:57 PM

There you go, Little Robyn, you were right. - Am I, a player of the Celtic harp, and admirer of Carolan's music, allowed to say that some of the Planxties start to sound very similar to each other after a while? ;-)

Anyway, Folk Music Index says that Killiecrankie is an alternative tune title to Planxty Davis, and the Battle of Prestonpans which I found in Mudcat's DT (Digital Traditions database) had Killiekrankie as the title of the music file when I played it.

So, take a bow!!

Helen

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 08:15 PM

Planxty Davis is usually attributed to the harper Thomas Connellan (d. 1698) rather than to Carolan, though the latter's tune The Two William Davises seems to be related.

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Helen
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 08:50 PM

Well, Malcolm, I didn't recognise the tune - either the name or the melody - as being one of Carolan's but the site I went to, Richard Robinson's Tunebook , had the dots with Carolan's name at the top.

I was going to check my book, The Complete Collection of the Much Admired Old Irish Tunes: The Original and Genuine Compositions of Carolan the Celebrated Harper & Composer (1670-1738) Suitable for Most Instruments.

How's that for a title, eh?

Anyway, I just checked it and it isn't in there. So, thanks for the information, Malcolm.

Helen

Subject: RE: Planxty Davis
From: Helen
Date: 14 Jan 04 - 09:28 PM

refresh - just in case Harvey hasn't seen it yet.

Helen