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Subject: Lyr Add: I SAW A MAN AT THE CLOSE OF DAY (D Watson From: Mottsnave Date: 13 Jun 16 - 01:23 PM There's "I Saw a Man at the Close of Day" I only know the Doc Watson version: I SAW A MAN AT THE CLOSE OF DAY As recorded by Doc Watson on "Original Folkways Recordings of Doc Watson and Clarence Ashley, 1960-1965" (1994) I saw a man at the close of day Standing by a grocery door. His eyes were sunken; [or "sunk an'"?] his lips were parched And I viewed him o'er and o'er. His little son stood by his side And unto him, he said: "Dear Father, Mother is sick at home And sister cries for bread." In about a year I passed thereby And the crowd stood 'round the door. When I asked the reason, one's reply Was: "The drunkard is no more." Just then a hearse moved slow-lye by, No wife, no children near. They had gone before this foul murder And left this world of care. Come, all you jolly dram drinkers; By this, a warning take, And quit the overflowing bowl Before it is too late. [Another album, "Old Timey Concert" (1991) has the following additional verse after verse 2 above:]
He turned around, walked through the door, |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: FreddyHeadey Date: 13 Jun 16 - 04:17 AM STITCH IN TIME "...For her husband he was a hunk of a man A chunk of a man and a drunk of a man, He was a hunk of a drunk and a skunk of a man Such a boozing, bruising husband...." @displaysong.cfm?SongID=5557 (Mike Waterson; tune by Martin Carthy) |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: PHJim Date: 03 Jun 16 - 08:41 PM Well, good-bye Booze, forever more My boozing days will soon be o'er. Yes we had a good time but we couldn't agree. You see what Booze has done to me. -to the same tune as Creole Belle or Richland Woman, a tune that I learned from Charlie Poole |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Long Firm Freddie Date: 03 Jun 16 - 02:37 AM A song that lists addiction, debt, fighting, domestic violence and isolation from friends amongst the perils of strong drink, is "Oh Good Ale". LFF |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,Susan Kirsch Date: 02 Jun 16 - 08:44 PM Does anyone have the lyrics to 2 Temperance songs, one set to the tune of "Scotland's Burning", the other to the tune of "Rally Round the Flag (Battle Cry of Freedom")? |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,mike Date: 20 Apr 10 - 08:33 PM Does anyone know lyrics to "O Rum-selller" sung to the melody of "Oh! Susannah by Stephen Foster? |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 17 Dec 09 - 02:31 PM Did I see (I don't recall) the Salvation Army Song? CH: Away, away with rum, by gum, With Rum, by gum, with rum, by gum. Away, away with rum, by gum, The song of the Salvation Army. We never eat fruitcake because it has rum. And one little bite turns a man to a bum. Oh, can you imagine a sorrier sight, Than a man eating fruitcake until he gets tight. We never eat cookies because they have yeast. And one little bite turns a man to a beast. Oh, can you imagine a sadder disgrace, Than a man in the gutter with crumbs on his face. I always used "The Pig and the Inebriate" as a cautionary tale (with tongue firmly in cheek. It was early last November, As near as I remember, I was walkin' down the street in tipsy pride. No one was I disturbin', As I lay down by the curbin', When a pig came up and lay down by my side. As I lay there in the gutter, Thinkin' thoughts I dare not utter, A lady passing by was heard to say: "You can tell a man who boozes, By the company he chooses!" And - the pig got up and slowly walked away.... |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band Date: 17 Dec 09 - 10:58 AM Here`s a song/chorus that found much application during pub crawls in London yonks ago. (Couldn`t do it now. No one would understand the language.!) "And when I die. Don`t bury me at all. Just pickle my bones , In alcolhol. Put a bottle of booze. At my head and my feet And then I`ll know. My bones will keep". Lead singer sings a line, assembled companions repeat it. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: DON'T GO OUT TO-NIGHT, DEAR FATHER From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Dec 09 - 12:13 AM There's a version of this in the DT: DON'T GO OUT TONIGHT, DEAR FATHER, also in the thread called 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety. This is a more exact copy of the sheet music at The Library of Congress: DON'T GO OUT TO-NIGHT, DEAR FATHER Words, M. E. Golding. Music, Will L. Thompson. East Liverpool, Ohio: W. L. Thompson & Co., 1877. 1. Don't go out to-night, dear father, Don't refuse this once, I pray! Tell your comrades mama's dying, Soon her soul will pass away; Tell them too, of darling Willie, Him we all so much do love, How his little form is drooping Soon to bloom again above. CHORUS: Don't go out to-night, dear father, Think, oh think, how sad 'twill be, When the angels come to take her, Papa won't be here to see. 2. Tell me that you love dear mama, Lying in that cold, cold room; And not you love your comrades better, Cursing there in that saloon, Oh dear father, do not leave us, Think, oh think how sad 'twill be, When the angels come to take her, You will not be here to see. 3. Morning found the little pleader Cold and helpless on the floor; Lying where he madly struck her, On that chilly night before; Lying there with hands uplifted, Feebly utt'ring words of prayer, Heav'nly Father, please forgive him, Reunite us all up there. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: ROB A POOR MAN OF HIS BEER From: Jim Dixon Date: 14 Feb 09 - 09:09 AM I was searching for a certain song that contained the phrase "rob a poor man of his beer." This isn't the right song, but it's so interesting I decided to collect it. By the way, I found so many instances of "rob a poor man of his beer" that I conclude it must have been a popular catch-phrase in the late 19th century. From Life of Charles Haddon Spurgeon, the World's Great Preacher by Russell Herman Conwell (Philadelphia: A. T. Hubbard, 1892):
What! rob a poor man of his beer, And give him good victuals instead! Your heart's very hard, sir, I fear, Or at least you are soft in the head What! rob a poor man of his mug, And give him a house of his own, With kitchen and parlor so snug! 'Tis enough to draw tears from a stone. What! rob a poor man of his glass, And teach him to read and to write! What! save him from being an ass! 'Tis nothing but malice and spite. What! rob a poor man of his ale, And prevent him from beating his wife, From being locked up in a jail, With penal employment for life! What! rob a poor man of his beer, And keep him from starving his child! It makes me feel awfully queer, And I'll thank you to draw it more mild. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: meself Date: 03 Feb 09 - 11:42 AM No one's mentioned Drunken Sailor? Seems to stress the inadvisability of showing up for work under the influence. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: cetmst Date: 03 Feb 09 - 08:13 AM THE TEMPERANCE SONGBOOK, Emmet T. Coleman, ed., 1907, reprint 1971 by American Heritage Press, David Hoffman Breaking Mother's Heart 27 Broad Is the Road 42 Crape on the Door of the Licensed Saloon 63 Dead March, The 26 District of Columbia W.C.T.U. Song 15 Down in the Licensed Saloon 35 Dreaming Tonight 54 Drive Him Out! 40 Drunkard's Lament, The 38 Drunkard's March, The 38 Father, Dear Father, Come Home 68 Foe in the Land, A 25 For God and Home and Native Land 46 Grandpa's Advice to the Boys 43 Great Judgment Morning, The 50 How My Boy Went Down 74 I'll Be There to Vote 24 Keep the Ball A-Rolling! 76 Lead, Kindly Light 77 Little Armor Bearers 7 Loyal Temperance Legion, The 10 Marching Beneath the Banner 32 Marching Onward 70 My Soul Be On Thy Guard 45 No Hope for the Drunkard 21 Oh Johnny Come Back to the Farm 12 Onward Christian Soldiers 48 Orphan Girl, The 30 Our Motto Song 13 Prodigal Girl, The 8 Rally Voters 17 Save Our Country 58 Sisters, Be to Jesus True 49 Somebody's Boy 52 Sparkling Water 65 Speed Our Cause We Pray 51 Stand for the Right 56 Stand Up for Jesus 62 Temperance Call, The 78 Temperance Doxology 79 Temperance Train, The 18 That Ribbon White 60 'Tis Life for a Look 22 Tolling Bells, The 66 Under the Curse 11 We're a Band of Soldiers 31 Well Take the World 29 When I Lie on My Pillow Tonight 57 Whiskey Shops Must Go, The 34 Who Will Volunteer? 37 Won't You Sign the Pledge? 14 |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: cetmst Date: 03 Feb 09 - 07:43 AM Marching Songs for Young Crusaders, continued The Children's Sabbath 55 The Coming Strike 12 The Crusade Psalm 62 The Pledge 60 The Washingtonian Pledge 26 The Welcome Sparrow 58 The Windmill 21 We Are Coming 9 We Are Temperance Children 44 We'll Never Touch the Wine 45 Welcome Song 17 We'll Rally Round the Callot Box 30 We Mean to Live All Right 46 |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: cetmst Date: 03 Feb 09 - 07:29 AM MARCHING SONGS FOR YOUNG CRUSADERS, No. 1, Anna A Gordon, Published by National WCTU, 1904 edition All United 39 A Wildwood Lesson 6 Bobolink Temperance Song 16 Breave and True 29 Childhood's Temperance May Queen 56 Children's Prayer 5 Cold Water Army Song 42 Cold Water Song 18 Do Something43 Ever Be Earnest 43 Exercise Song 32 God the Father 28 Happy Children 27 Kindergarten Song 49 Kitchen-Garden Song 54 Little Crusaders 4 Making a Chain 44 March of the Loyal Legion 3 My Birthday Cup 14 Never, Never Let Us Cruel Be 37 Now's the Time for You 10 O, Temperance Gives Us 53 Onward We Are Marching 38 Our Coming Army 22 Our Father in Heaven 25 Our Glasses Upside Down 20 Our Wonderful House 11 Raise You Hands 48 Rallying Song 36 Rally the Clans 37 Right Is Might 34 Ring the Temperance Bells 24 Rock-a-bye Birdie 40 See My Little Birdie's Nest 15 Soldiers of the King 19 Speak Kindly 33 Sunday 8 Temperance Boys and Girls |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: pavane Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:33 AM Rattlin' Roarin' Willie perhaps? |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Artful Codger Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:03 AM Here's the Cajun French for "Le Vieux Soulard": Le Vieux Soulard et Sa Femme You'c'que t'es parti? / Dis mon bon vieux mari, Et you que t'es parti? / Toi qui veux faire ma mort Et you que t'es parti / Dis mon bon vieux mari Qu'il est l'meilleur buveur du pays? [Spoken] J'suis parti au cafe! Quoi t'es parti faire? / Dis mon bon vieux mari, Et quoi t'es parti faire? / Toi qui veux faire ma mort Et quoi t'es parti faire? / Dis mon bon vieux mari, Qu'il est l'meilleur buveur du pays? [Spoken] J'suis parti m'saouler! Et quand tu t'en reviens &c.? [Spoken] Oh d'main ou aut' jour! Quoi to veux j'fais cuire &c.? [Spoken] Cuis moi cinq douzaines d'oeufs, puis un gallon d'couscous! Ca, ca va te tuer &c. [Spoken] Oh, c'est pas qu'j'veux mourir quand meme. Et you qu'tu veux qu'j'enterre &c. [Spoken] Enterr' moi dans l'coin d'la ch'minee; tu l'eteins un peu avant, autrement, elle va et'chaude! |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: MaW Date: 02 Feb 09 - 05:13 AM Karine Polwart's song 'The Sun's Comin' Over The Hill' might be considered a warning about overconsumption of whisky, as the narrator's boyfriend (or possibly husband, it's unclear, but significant male romantic partner anyway) drove off the road while 'full of whisky and irony' and died, and then the narrator plunged into a dark place of whisky and pills, which at the point where the song is written she's just pulling out of it. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: sid Date: 01 Feb 09 - 02:31 PM I have a A5? pocket book, some 90 pages, no date but probably late 19th C All Temperance Poems. Sample:- "My wife and children join with me, To raise our voice in praise, To Him who led my wandering steps in sober, righteous ways; And often do we bless the day I snapped the galling chain, And listened to that Angel's voice, Abstain! Abstain! Abstain! Teetotal movement V. strong in Victorian Lancashire, started in USA (1819?) spread to Ireland (Dr. Matthews) then to England and launched in England by Joseph Livesey of Preston on 1st September 1832. Lots of other, similar works by dozens of Dialect writers during Lancashire's Industrial Revolution. Anyone seriously looking at this subject get in touch -SID |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,Michele Callaghan Date: 31 Jan 09 - 09:44 PM What about Farewell to Whiskey? |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Joe_F Date: 31 Jan 09 - 08:41 PM There is such a thing as a *sad* temperance song: "Reunion" by Cyril Tawney. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST Date: 31 Jan 09 - 03:43 PM There is a Cajun song (Louisiana-French) called Le Vieux Solard et Sa Femme, which means The Old Drunkard and His Wife. It was performed by Joe Falcon and his wife Clemo Breuax for Columbia Records in 1928. It is a very catchy tune, which was also used by The Holy Modal Rounders for "Romping in the Swamp". The lyrics (and musical notation) are in the book "The Anthology of American Folk Music" (edited by Joshn Dunson and Ethel Raim, Oak Publications, New York, 1973, ISBN 0-8256-0133-9)which I bought many years ago, which accompanies the 3 CDs of the same name, which of course also features this song. The lyrics as sung on the CD are in French, and while these are also shown in the book there is an English translation: Where are you going? My good husband Where are you going, You who'll be the death of me Where are you going, my good old man The biggest drunk of the countryside Spoken: I'm going to the cafe! What are you going to do there? My good husband Where are you going, You who'll be the death of me Where are you going, my good old man The biggest drunk of the countryside Spoken: I'm gonna get drunk! When'll you come back? My good husband Where are you going, You who'll be the death of me Where are you going, my good old man The biggest drunk of the countryside Spoken: Oh tomorrow or another day! What do you want me to cook for you? My good husband Where are you going, You who'll be the death of me Where are you going, my good old man The biggest drunk of the countryside Spoken: Cook me five dozen eggs and a gallon of couscous! What, that'll kill you! My good husband Where are you going, You who'll be the death of me Where are you going, my good old man The biggest drunk of the countryside Spoken: Well, maybe I want to die anyway! Then where do you want me to bury you? My good husband Where are you going, You who'll be the death of me Where are you going, my good old man The biggest drunk of the countryside Spoken: Bury me in the chimney corner, but put it out a little before or else it'll be hot No doubt the tune fits the original French lyrics rather better The book and the CDs (as a boxed set with accompanying background notes, etc) are well worth buying for anyone interested in old-time music. I got my copy of the book in a music shop somewhere in Northern Ireland, but had to get the CDs from www.rootsandrhytm.com in USA, a source of numerous old time music CDs, etc. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: frogprince Date: 15 Jan 09 - 04:58 PM "Firewater", by the great Penny Lang. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 15 Jan 09 - 04:00 PM On the old U.S. TV "Dean Martin Show," Dean's guest one evening was singer Pat Boone. Boone had a reputation as a clean-living, teetotaling sort who drank only milk. Dean's other guest was the late Phil Harris (for younger folks, the voice of Baloo in Disney's "The Jungle Book"). Phil, who had long had a reputation as a lover of booze, looked askance at Pat Boone, cocked one eye and asked, "Is it true that you really drink milk?" Given an affirmative response, he then asked, "You mean to tell me you get up in the morning KNOWING that's the best you're gonna feel all day?" I rest my case. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,guest Date: 15 Jan 09 - 03:28 PM two more modern country songs are "nothing to die for" by tim mcgraw and "thats why Im here" by kenny chesney! |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,Suffolk Miracle Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:11 AM Drunkard's Doom as sung by Ed McCurdy At dawn of day, I saw a man Stand by a grog saloon. His eyes were sunk, his lips were parched; Oh, that's the drunkard's doom. His little son stood by his side, Then to his father said, "Father, Mother lies sick at home And Sister cries for bread." He rose and staggered to the bar, As oft he'd done before, And to the landlord, smiling, said: "Just fill me one glass more." The cup was filled at his command; He drank the poisoned bowl. He drank, while wife and children starved, And ruined his own soul. A year had passed, I went that way, A hearse stood at the door. I paused to ask, and one replied, "The drunkard is no more." I saw the hearse move slowly on, Nor wife nor child was there. They, too, had flown to Heaven's bright home, And left a world of care. Now, all young men, a warning take, And shun the poisoned bowl. 'Twill lead you down to Hell's dark gate And ruin your own soul. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,Rich Date: 10 Jun 08 - 05:39 PM Níl 'na Lá (Traditional Irish) Please Daddy, Don't get Drunk This Christmas.(John Denver) Don't come home a-Drinkin' with Lovin' On Your Mind. (Loretta Lynn) High Cost Of Low Living (Allman Bros.) Rich |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: BB Date: 10 Jun 08 - 04:20 PM Forgotten about this one - from Ron Taylor & Jeff Gillett's CD 'Both Shine as One' - a song called 'Adieu, John Barleycorn'. Well worth a listen! Barbara |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Gulliver Date: 10 Jun 08 - 03:32 PM Goodbye Booze Goodbye booze, I'll booze no more All my drinking Days are o'er etc. There are several versions of this song, one performed by Charlie Poole (who should have taken its advice!). Don |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Bernard Quenby Date: 10 Jun 08 - 06:13 AM Sit Down You're Rocking The Boat from Guys N Dolls |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 09 Jun 08 - 07:03 PM "The War against Drugs" doesn't seem to have produced many good songs. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Artful Codger Date: 09 Jun 08 - 06:26 PM Well, I suppose you could consider this a temperance song: "Father's a Drunkard and Mother Is Dead". I haven't researched it--despite the promise of the title, it's rather a lame song--, so I don't know if temperance groups sang it to edify the misguided. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: dick greenhaus Date: 09 Jun 08 - 05:32 PM Or Shingling the Rum-Seller's Roof? or Drunkard's Dream? |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 09 Jun 08 - 11:44 AM I've read this thread in bits and pieces, so I don't remember, has anyone mentioned Father, oh father, come home with me now? Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: BB Date: 09 Jun 08 - 11:29 AM There's one called 'The Deadly Cup', and there's 'Two Little Gins' by Brenda Orrell from N. Yorks. Barbara |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: topical tom Date: 09 Jun 08 - 11:19 AM JohnInKansas: many thanks for giving me the blue clicky! |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Sailor Ron Date: 09 Jun 08 - 10:43 AM Moody& sankey have several wonderful Temperence 'songs' including "Hace corage my son to say no" and my favourite "The drunkards repentance". |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: irishenglish Date: 09 Jun 08 - 09:27 AM "Throw Out The Lifeline" |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Leadfingers Date: 09 Jun 08 - 07:21 AM Bar in mind that you can NEVER drink too much - You can only ever drink 'Just Enough' , and then you fall over . |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Artful Codger Date: 09 Jun 08 - 05:25 AM BTW, the choral song "A Social Drink" goes: I used to like a social drink--(So did I!) (So did I!) 'Twas very good, I used to think--(So did I!) (And I!) (Chorus:) Ha ha ha ha! The social drink, 'Twas very good, I used to think, But now I laugh when asked to drink: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! I don't know any more of it. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Artful Codger Date: 09 Jun 08 - 05:13 AM Jack: re Stephen Foster's views: Foster was an alcoholic. Went on the wagon a number of times, but always fell off again. His drinking was greatly responsible for his wife leaving him and his descent into poverty. I've always viewed "O Comrades, Fill No Glass for Me" as semi-autobiographical. It's a fun song to sing "in moderation", which is to say, in a slightly tipsy manner. In any case, despite the moralizing, it's clearly not a temperance song, since he's not being an asswipe about whether other people drink. It's interesting that a great number of Temperance songs borrow their tunes from drinking songs. Sure, oftentimes it was an attempt at revisionism, but you'd think that being sober would enable them to write even better tunes--apparently, not so. Having to listen to most Temperance songs would drive one to drink! From the title, "Sling the Flowing Bowl" sounds like it oughtta be a temperance song. Never quite understood the "slinging" bit--I have to be careful not to sing "Then fling the flowing bowl"! |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: JohnInKansas Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:38 PM ttom left off the beginning "<a href=": Lips That Touch Liquor Shall Never Touch Mine John |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Kara Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:31 PM Check out, Darling Please don't call me when I'm sober on my myspace |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,cStu Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:21 PM My favourite is Blind Willie McTell's: God Don't Like It (and I don't either) |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: peregrina Date: 08 Jun 08 - 01:29 PM Gillian Welch: Tear my Stillhouse Down |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: topical tom Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:25 PM Sorry! Another clicky goof.The song title is at the end. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: topical tom Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:21 PM "Lips That Touch Liquor Shall Never Touch Mine |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: GUEST,Volgadon Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:08 PM John Barleycorn. |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 08 Jun 08 - 11:12 AM I'm emphatically in favor of temperance. In moderation. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 08 Jun 08 - 11:11 AM There's Drink to Me Only With Thine Eyes. And I can't believe no one has cited the pig song. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs From: Jack Campin Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:02 AM > Stephen Foster's "O Comrades, Fill No Glass for Me" is a temperance > song of sorts (long before the Temperance movement, however.) The temperance movement goes back to the 1830s, though it didn't start creating its own songs until a bit later. The earliest ones I know were written by the Chartists in the 1840s; in its early days temperance was a secular movement with strong socialist links, and the church wouldn't have anything to do with it (in Scotland it depended on funding from brewers and distillers). Temperance songs didn't develop significant Christian content until the 1860s, when the church was getting on the bandwagon and trying to turn the movement to its own ends. It would be interesting to know where Foster got the idea. I don't know anything about his politics. |
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