Band 'Cutty Sark',

Subject: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 12:48 AM

A friend in Scotland asks me if I know of a band called "Cutty Sark", and is interested in one track in particular by them --"Knockshinnoch"
Can any catter shed some light?

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: Eugene Judge
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 02:20 PM

Can't find anything about the band.

History of the disaster can be found here:

http://members.tripod.com/bob_newcumnock/knockhome/welcomex.html


These lyrics found on a site about coalmining - posted by R Hunter.

Knockshinnoch (R.Hunter/D.McClymont) Castledean Music(c) 2000

This pit disaster is etched on the minds of the pit men in the local area, if only the simplest safety precautions were taken the disaster would never have happened, even the sheep and the cows stayed away from the field.

1) It poored like monsoon rains
Fillin a the gutters and rains
Twis miserable tae go tae work
Yet these men were used tae dirt
Fur Knockshinnoch wis a they knew
An the bread o life gae few
As a class they were mighty proud
Tae graft they a hae vowed

Chorus
Fur their lifes were coal and stoor
Till that awfull evil oor
When New Cummnock folk
Were torn from their men

2) As the pit men left that day
From their prefabs tae earn their pay
There were streams of clothcapped souls
Fur coal they dug like moles
Little knowin what was in store
That some would see no more
The dazzling sun sae bright
Or the moon and stars at night

3) O the coos and the sheep knew weel
That the field was aboot tae keel
Wae warnins starin them in the face
And the men doon below in the waste
Like yon flood back in Noahs day
When a flesh wis washed away
Never mare wid we see the like
Entombed in their darkest night
Bridge Sobrither so the dust sleep weel
Een times naen ard tae heal
Though Knockshinnochit is nae mare
Fallen comrades we miss them sare


Eugene

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 04 Feb 04 - 03:33 AM

Ah, Eugene--while I have no knowledge of the band "Cutty Sark" or the lyrics they are purported to have written and performed,[I'm still searching--], I do have an acquaintance with the Knockshinnoch disaster--I was involved in it. Herewith a couple of verses of a song I wrote circa 1965---
--"Sae weel I mind yon Lammas eve,
   That left sae mony cause tae grieve,
   Mud, deadly, slid, and thirteen men
   Forever sleep in Afton Glen."

   "And mony mair, my bonnie bairns,
   Lie sleepin' 'neath memorial cairns,
   A mindin' o' the debt ye owe
   Tae the lads wha lost their lives below..."

I'll supply the full text to any interested--tune "the Dying Ploughboy".

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 05 Feb 04 - 12:59 AM

Would you be related to Brown Judge, from Irvine?

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: Eugene Judge
Date: 05 Feb 04 - 01:37 PM

No I'm not. Born in Bradford West Yorkshire with roots back to Co. Mayo & Co Clare Eire.

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: GUEST,Danielle McClymont
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 08:43 AM

Hello

My Dad was actually the signer in the band and I believe he wrote some of the songs too. So if you need any information you can contact me at [e-mail].

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: Beer
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 08:48 AM

Probably no connection to your request, but I use to go to a pub downtown Montreal and listen to an Irish bank called "Cutty Sark" This was around 1970/71.
Ad.

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 09:07 AM

And what sort of tunes did this Irish bank play? £42 cheque. Sixpenny money? Bank of Ireland? Bank of Turf?

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: Beer
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 09:26 AM

Hahahaha!!. Good one Manitas.
Sorry about that.
Correction should read "Band" and not "Bank"

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 10:05 AM

On topic there's this band

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2191

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 10:07 AM

Even better is this

http://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/reminise/knock.htm

Subject: RE: Band 'Cutty Sark',
From: GUEST,Danielle
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 10:36 AM

Yes must be the band my Dad was in and the Album is called "The Story Teller" that has the song Knockshinnoch.

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/cuttysark

Danielle