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I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist DigiTrad: IF THE RIVER WAS WHISKEY Related threads: (origins) Origins: Hesitation Blues (49) Lyr Req: Hesitation Blues + Spike Driver's Blues (28) (origins) Origin: Hesitation Blues / Hesitating Blues (20) Lyr/Chords Req: Hesitation Blues (6) |
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Subject: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicologist From: BSondahl Date: 01 Oct 98 - 12:17 AM I ain't no ethnofolkmusicologist, I ain't no ethnofolkmusicologist's son, But I can digress on a song's etymology, Till the folkethnomusicologist come. http://www.camasnet.com/~asondahl/bradindex.html burma shave |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Bill D Date: 01 Oct 98 - 12:12 PM as can we ALL, Brad, old fellow... |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Pam S. Date: 01 Oct 98 - 02:06 PM I think I'm in love with you, BSondahl. |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Ewan McV Date: 01 Oct 98 - 02:50 PM Your address reminds me of the WWII front trench signs I read about Be careful as you walk about Or you'll be picking shrapnel out Of Burma Shave |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Oct 98 - 03:13 PM Brad - that sounds like it's supposed to be a verse to a song I'm supposed to know. Trouble is, my feeble mind can't figure out what song it's supposed to be. Can you tell me the song, before I get seriously frustrated? Is your verse original, or am I right in thinking I've heard it somewhere else before? Sounds like it could be somebody taking a poke at Pete Seeger or John & Alan Lomax. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Barbara Date: 01 Oct 98 - 04:56 PM There's one in the DT, Joe. I searched [ain't no doctor] and got If the River Were Whiskey. Might be more. Seems like I remember a trade song, that plugs in tons of different professions, each with a double entendre on the end (ain't no mailman; ain't no mailman's son, but I can put it in the box till the mailman comes) and the like. Might be another version of Hesitation Blues. That sounds right. Blessings Barbara |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Roger Himler Date: 01 Oct 98 - 05:30 PM Barbara,
How about:
Gather 'round people, 'bout to sing this song,
CHO:
Hello Central, what's a'matter with that line?
Don't want no sugar, in my tea,
A'int no fireman, I ain't no fireman's son,
Ain't no doctor, I ain't no doctor's son,
Words from memory of 60's or 70's jug band recording. Perhaps I can find it later.
However, the thread may be referring to a Smother's Brothers song/routine. Is this it, Joe?
My old man's a sailor, now whaddya think about that?
CHO:
They move through occupations to "Cotton pickin', finger lickin', chicken plucker." e.g. Roger in Baltimore |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Mountain Dog Date: 02 Oct 98 - 11:14 AM Barbara, I think you pegged it as a variation (mayhap a wryly pedantic one?) of them ol' Hesitation Blues. |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Brad Sondahl Date: 02 Oct 98 - 11:41 AM The lyrics were original, been percolating in my brain for years. it's based on the pattern of Hootchie Cootchie Man, which of course is Muddy Waters rendering of the Willie Dixon standard which falls in the the genre of "I ain't no" lyrics: I ain't no miller, ain't no miller's son, But I can do your grinding till the miller come etc. blah blah blah. But I digress. It's not intended to rip anybody-- just years ago I heard some fellow folk junky with a degree described as an ethnofolkmusicologist. And to Pam S: Sorry, I'm spoken for... |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Oct 98 - 01:08 PM Roger, that Smothers Brothers routine sounds familiar, but it's not on the one Smothers CD I have and my memory doesn't go back that far very well these days. Sure does ring a bell, though. I always liked the Brothers Smothers. I was kind of proud of the Smothers routine I used to do as a camp counselor. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Rockaday Johnny Date: 03 Oct 98 - 10:26 AM Roger - that '70's jugband tune you thought of was Jim Kweskin's recording of "Wild about my Lovin" (Geof Muldaur did the vocals) it was based on Jim Jackson's 1928 version -- |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Dani Date: 03 Oct 98 - 07:55 PM BSondahl, I needed a chuckle tonight~ thanks! Joe, don't you remember the pheasant plucker and his son?? I'm pretty sure it was discussed ad nauseum here sometime. |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: gargoyle Date: 04 Oct 98 - 03:06 AM I first heard it in 1960, from a bar-owner's daughter....it is a tongue-twister. Try saying it three times.
I'm not a sheet slitter |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Oct 98 - 03:32 AM Ohhhh, the Pheasant Plucker (click here) thread. I forgot.... Gee, It's even in the database (click here). -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Barry Finn Date: 05 Oct 98 - 04:21 PM Rockaday, I believe that's the same version covered by John Sebastian, what I still have from memory goes, maybe like this.
Hello central what's the matter with the line
CH: Cause I'm wild about my loving,
Hello Mr. Chief of Police, I think there was more but the fog is to thick. Barry |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: northfolk Date: 05 Oct 98 - 06:25 PM just went through quickly, so maybe the answer is already here. the reference to the smothers b's, was close. The show included a series of poems, I think, by Mason williams? called "Them Poems". Them Moose Goosers was more widely known than them Pheasant pluckers.... |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Oct 98 - 06:55 PM I'm not sure if there's a connection to ethnofolkmusicologists, but click here and you'll find the refreshing, entertaining, and strangely satisfying thread we had on Mason Williams and the Moose Goosers and such. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: Lyr Add: HESITATIN' BLUES From: Barbara Date: 05 Oct 98 - 07:29 PM Gee, it's good to be back. About 25, 30 years ago someone gave me a copy of Hesitatin' Blues with about a zillion verses. I just found it, but the top page -- with the music and the info about whose version it was -- is gone. Here's the words: HESITATIN' BLUES
Hesitatin' stockings, hesitatin' shoes
If the river was whiskey, and I was a duck
Well, I'm standin' on a corner, dollar in my hand,
Well you hesitate by one, and you hesitate by two
I was born in Alabama, I was raised in Tennessee,
I looked down the rroad just as far as I could see
I ain't no doctor, ain't no doctor's son,
Well the eagle on the dollar say "In God we trust"
Pussy ain't nothin' but meat on a bone,
Ain't no fireman, ain't no fireman's son,
Ain't no iceman, ain't no iceman's son,.
Ain't no postman, ain't no postman's son,.
Ain't no chimney sweeper, ain't no chimney sweeper's son,.
Ain't no garage mechanic, ain't no garage mechanic's son,.
Ain't no Good Humor man, ain't no Good Humor man's son,
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Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: GUEST,Joseph Scott Date: 22 Jan 17 - 05:45 PM The familiar "I ain't no plumber..." stuff is at least as old as 1916, because it was used in this: http://www.worldcat.org/title/german-blues-its-neutral/oclc/24261434?referer=di&ht=edition Lurtey was born in Kentucky in about 1887. _Billboard_ wrote on 10/28/1916 that "The German Blues: It's Neutral" was the "[b]est burlesque song on the boards" and on 5/26/1917 that it was "[m]aking a great hit everywhere." |
Subject: RE: I ain't no ethnofolkmusicoligist From: GUEST,Joseph Scott Date: 22 Jan 17 - 05:59 PM P.S. "The German Blues: It's Neutral" had AAB lyrics, unlike "Hesitating Blues." |
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