Folklore: What time is it there?

Subject: What time is it there?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:01 PM

We've just started summer time in the UK, so it's coming up to midnight.

Does New York have summer time too, and does it start at the same date, so is it still 5 hours behind us, or is it now 6?

Or is it different again?

Subject: RE: What time is it there?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:19 PM

Richard, I believe they have not changed clocks, so you have to add 1 hour to the time difference (7 hours for Houston, Chicago etc)

Subject: RE: What time is it there?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:25 PM

It's about 20 past, here. :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: What time is it there?
From: Burke
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:28 PM

In the US we'll change clocks early on Sunday, April 4. Just wait a week & we'll be back to 5 hours difference.

Subject: RE: What time is it there?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:30 PM

The term we use in the USA is "daylight saving time," sometimes shortened to "daylight time" or DST. Some people say "daylight savingS time" but a website I just looked at says that's wrong.

DST in America begins on the first Sunday in April and ends on the last Sunday in October, but not all areas within the US observe DST at all.

An article at National Geographic News gives details.

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 07:13 PM

Fifty years ago in the US, daylight saving time used to come under a lot of criticism (along with fluoridated water) as a Communist plot to weaken the moral fiber of our nation. My favorite, though, was a letter to the editor of the Des Moines Register complaining that the extra hour of sunlight was burning up her lawn.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 07:17 PM

Ah, then it must be Wednesday in Peru.

LTS

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 08:33 PM

GMT + 10 no DST

Robin

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 08:37 PM

Alaska Standard Time is 9 hours earlier than GMT usually. 3:00 pm here is midnight in London. This week the difference is 10 hours, but it will go back to 9 on Sunday, April 4.

Mike

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: s&r
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 03:05 AM

DST in the UK used to be double summer time ie clocks two hours forward. Can't remember how long it lasted.

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: open mike
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 03:21 AM

the way to remember how to change the clocks when daylight saving time
and the other (wasting time??) starts is: spring ahead, fall behind.

there are a couple of states the do not follow this plan...Arizona and
maybe the other one is Indiana??

but how will the chickens know when to get up?

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 08:52 AM

When I was teaching in the Peace Corps in Ethiopia many years ago, we were bemused by the fact that 12-noon was 6 o'clock. There were still 24 hours each day and there was also 6 o'clock midnight. It was an imminently reasonable system, we had to admit. But we always had a hard time clarifying appointments, and sometimes lapsed into double correcting. The year was also different than what we were used to, based on the old Eastern Orthodox calendar which runs some 6 years earlier than ours. And the major Christain holidays were also out of sync. Hey, it's Christmas Day again!

Lord knows how they conducted international business. But one could adapt on the ground.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: GUEST,MMArio
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 09:14 AM

here on the 'cat it's easy to figure out what time it is in NY - or Eastern US - because the time is displayed at the bottom of the thread - so if you 've just pulled up the thread and you know what time it is where YOU are - you can figure the difference.

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: JennyO
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:08 AM

Here in Sydney, our Daylight Saving Time (we also call it Summertime) finished last weekend, on the same day that it started in the UK. So last week we were 11 hours ahead of the UK and this week, we are only 9 hours ahead.

Last week we were 16 hours ahead of Mudcat time, now we are 15 hours ahead. It's about 1 am here now.

One of the Australian states, Queensland, would not agree to having Daylight Saving - they like to be different :-)

I personally would like it to go on longer - another few weeks at each end would have been nice. Now all of a sudden I am coming home in the dark and missing the sunsets :-(

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Johnny in OKC
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 07:47 PM

The whole thing is a mess. In my other hobby
of amateur radio, everyone around the world uses
UTC (Greenwich) time, so there's no problem.

BTW, it is "parts" of Indiana.

I wish they would put on Daylight time
and just leave it there.

Why do we have extra daylight in the
summer, when we don't need it?

Love, Johnny

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Peter Woodruff
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 07:59 PM

Richard,
Summer doesn't start here until June 21st. Right now we are in the middle of mud season.
Peter

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:38 PM

Thank you Burke that was what I needed.

Yes, Mario, I figured that out after I had posted. Homer Simpson rides again, but this time in England

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: open mike
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:49 PM

see the ;lthread inviting people to join in the paltalk jam thursday
for sevedral links to inbternational time zone web sites where you
can add and subtract to your heart's delight and come up w2ith the
answer to "when is now?"
Is it now yet?

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: LadyJean
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:57 PM

And then there's Newfoundland. I was told of a Newfoundlander who tried to rob a bank on the mainland. His plan was to run into the bank, fire his gun, grab the money and run.
He ran up against the automatic door at the bank. It was locked, and he was knocked out cold.
Someone asked the would be bank robber why he'd tried to rob a bank at 9:30, and he explained that that was when the banks opened in Newfoundland.

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: GUEST,eileen
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 04:11 AM

I used to live 3 miles from the Indiana State Line, in Michigan. I often worked in South Bend, IN and also in Chicago. South Bend never changed their clocks....it was all very confusing. For years I was either an hour late or early for gigs...depending on where I was. Often, it was fantastic..I would arrive early...set up and have time to get pleasantly "plowed" before playing.

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: KateG
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 07:54 AM

I dislike Daylight Saving Time intensely. In this day and age of artificial light, it has no bearing on our ability to work. However, there is a real psychological lift for us early risers in watching the sunrise get earlier each morning. As soon as the clocks are reset, we go back to getting up and going to work in the dark. Plus who needs federally mandated jet-lag twice a year. I wake up naturally at about 5:00, and after time changes it takes me weeks to reset my internal clock.

I am told that the DST season used to be shorter, but was expanded in response to pressure from the beef and charcoal grill lobby....more evening daylight meant more burgers and steaks on the grill. Life in America!

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: JennyO
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 10:07 AM

Someone in chat last night posted a link to this website for telling the time in different timezones, so I bookmarked it. If the ticking drives you crazy there is a button on the bottom left for muting it. You still get the sound effects though.

Time Ticker and the time tickers

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 03:53 PM

Excellent and useful site if you do business in differenet time zones. Thank you.

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 09:04 PM

http://www.lss.com.au/lss/windows/sit/sit.htm

Show Internet Time (SIT) is a freeware utility that displays the current Swatch Internet Time in your icon tray, and has a built in time conversion tool. Also available for WindowsCE!

This is a simple program to display the current Internet Time in your taskbar icon tray. Internet Time is a new scheme designed by Swatch (yes, the watch-makers) which divides the 24 hour day into 1000 "beats", measured from midnight in Biel, Switzerland. Because the Internet Time doesn't change between timezones, the Internet Time is the same all over the world. See www.swatch.com for more information.

How useful Internet Time is I don't really know; I can see a use for it by people like CNN who have the same program schedule all over the world. Anyway, it's a nifty idea and this program will help you get used to this new "standard" (?).

SIT (Show Internet Time) is a small program which you can run from your Startup folder. It displays the current Internet Time in your taskbar in one of seven different styles (6 for the WindowsCE version). A future version may allow you to select any font for this display, but currently it is limited to the built-in styles.

The Internet Time is calculated from both your current system time, and your system timezone settings (SIT needs to know what your GMT offset is so it can calculate the time in Switzerland). Therefore, you must have both your system clock and timezone set correctly (you can adjust both of these from the Date/Time control panel).


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Now we just need MUT (Mudcat Universal Time) :-)

Robin

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 09:19 PM

It won't be long now before sunrise in Alaska happens in the middle of the night- and sunset doesn't arrive until long after bedtime. And there are parts of Alaska in which the sun doesn't set for almost three months... talk about a LONG day.

(I'm being vague about the clock times because I'm in southeast Alaska where our days are not as long as those in Anchorage where AlaskaMike holds forth.)

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 09:54 PM

Time zones are only a buit over a century old. Before tht, noon was noon whenever the sun was directly overhead. THis proved difficu;t when railroads (and later, telegraphs) made consistency among different areas desirable.

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 10:32 PM

When Alaska first became a state, it had 4 different time zones; Yukon, Alaska, Bering and Aleutian. In 1983, Congress combined three of these zones (Yukon, Alaska and Bering) into one time zone, Alaska. The far western part of the Aleutian Islands is still on Hawaii/Aleutian Time. More information is available here.

Best wishes,
Alaska Mike (holding forth in Anchorage)

Subject: RE: Folklore: What time is it there?
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 10:34 PM

I forgot to mention, Alaska is the farthest north, farthest west and farthest east (it crosses the International Dateline) of all the United States.

Mike