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Lyr Add: Some new(?) Scottish songs For DT

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The Bonny Earl of Moray (The song that gave us the word "mondegreen")
The Earl of Moray (The song that gave us the word "mondegreen")


John in Brisbane 04 Oct 98 - 09:54 PM
Joe Offer 04 Oct 98 - 09:57 PM
Bruce O. 05 Oct 98 - 12:49 PM
John in Brisbane 05 Oct 98 - 11:07 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: CAULD KAIL IN ABERDEEN etc.
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 04 Oct 98 - 09:54 PM

Have listed below lyrics for a few songs that I couldn't find in the database. I have the melodies for most of them and will post when I am assured that I am not duplicating previous effort.

Mr Greenhaus, can you please remind me how to search the off-line database for lyrics with missing tunes. That's how I got started on this - I was really trying to fill in some missing tunes.

Joe, I hope my HTML is improving.

Regards
John

NO MELODY

THE BONNIE EARL OF MORAY^^^

Ye Hielan's an' ye Lowlan's
O, where have ye been
They hae slain the Earl of Moray
And lain him on the green
He was a braw gallant
And he rode at the ring
An' the bonnie Earl of Moray
O, he micht hae been the king!
O, lang may his lady
Look frae the castle Doune
Ere she see the Earl of Moray
Come soundin' through the toun.

2. Now way be to thee, Huntly
And wherefore did ye sae?
I bade you bring him wi' you
But forbade you him to slay
He was a braw gallant
And he play'd at the ball
An' the Bonnie Earl of Moray
Was a flower among them all
Lang may his lady
Look from the Castle Doune
Ere she see the Earl of Moray
Come soundin' through the toun.

3. Ye Hielan's and ye Lowlan's
O where hae ye been?
They have slain the Earl of Moray
An' laid him on the green
He was a braw gallant
And he rode at the gluve
An' the Bonnie Earl of Moray
O, he was the Queens' true love
Lang will his lady
Look frae the Castle Doune
Ere she see the Earl of Moray
Come soundin' through the toun.

Huntly had a commission to apprehend the Earl, who was in the disgrace of James VI. Huntly, as an ally of Bothwell, asked him to surrender at Donibristle, in Fife; he would not yield to his private enemy, the house was burned, and Murray was slain, Huntly gashing his face. "You have spoiled a better face than your own," said the dying Earl (1592). James Melville mentions contemporary ballads on the murder.

See "BONNY EARL OF MURRAY" in DigiTrad. -JoeClone, 19-Jun-01.
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CAULD KAIL IN ABERDEEN^^
Robert Burns

Cauld kail in Aberdeen
And castocks in Strabogie
But yet I fear they'll cook o'er soon,
And never warm the coggie.

2. My coggie, Sirs, my coggie, Sirs,
I cannot want my coggie;
I wadna gie my three-gir'd cap
For e'er a quine on Bogie.

3. There's Johnie Smith has got a wife
That scrimps him o' his coggie,
If she were mine, upon my life
I wad douk her in a bogie.

4. My coggie, Sirs, my coggie, Sirs,
I cannot want my coggie;
I wadna gie my three-girr'd cap
For e'er a quine on Bogie.

5. There's cauld kail in Aberdeen,
And castocks in Strabogie;
When ilka lad maun hae his lass,
Then fye, gie me my coggie.

6. The lasses about Bogie gicht
Their limbs, they are sae clean and tight,
That if they were but girded right,
They'll dance the reel of Bogie.

7. Wow, Aberdeen, what did you mean,
Sae young a maid to woo, Sir?
I'm sure it was nae joke to her,
Whate'er it was to you, Sir.

8. For lasses now are nae sae blate
But they ken auld folk's out o' date,
And better playfare can they get
Than castocks in Strabogie.
^^
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COME TO CALVARY'S HOLY MOUNTAIN^^
"Consolation", Ludvig M. Lindeman, 1871; Seq. by Richard Jordan
James Montgomery, 1819

Come to Calvary's holy mountain,
Sinners, ruined by the Fall;
Here a pure and healing fountain
Flows to you, to me, to all,
In a full, perpetual tide,
Opened when our Savior died.

2. Come in poverty and meanness,
Come defiled, without, within;
From infection and uncleanness,
From the leprosy of sin,
Wash your robes and make them white;
Ye shall walk with God in light.

3. Come in sorrow and contrition,
Wounded, impotent, and blind;
Here the guilty free remission,
Here the troubled peace, may find.
Health this fountain will restore;
He that drinks shall thirst no more.

4. He that drinks shall live forever;
Tis a soul-renewing flood.
God is faithful; God will never
Break His covenant of blood,
Signed when our Redeemer died,
Sealed when He was glorified.
^^
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THE DE'IL'S AWA WI' TH' EXCISEMAN^^^
Tune: The Hemp-Dresser

The deil cam fiddlin thro' the town
And danced awa wi' th' Exciseman;
And ilka wife cries, auld Mahoun,
I wish you luck o' the prize, man.
CHO: The deil's awa, the deil's awa
The deil's awa wi' th' Exciseman,
He's danced awa, he's danced awa
He's danced awa wi' th' Exciseman.

2. We'll mak our maut and we'll brew our drink,
We'll laugh, sing and rejoice, man;
And mony braw thanks to the meikle black deil,
That danc'd awa wi' th' Exciseman. CHO.

3. There's threesome reels, there's foursome reels,
There's hornpipes and strathpeys, man,
But the ae best dance e'er cam to the Land
Was, the deil's awa wi' th' Exciseman. CHO.

See "THE DEIL CAM FIDDLIN THRO THE TOWN" in DigiTrad. -JoeClone, 19-Jun-01.

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FLORA MACDONALD'S LAMENT^^

Far over yon hills of the heather so green
And down by the corrie that sings to the sea
The bonnie young Flora sat sighing her lane
The dew on her plaid and the tear in her e'e.
She looked at a boat with the breezes that swung
Away on the wave like a bird on the main
And aye as it lessened she sighed and she sung
Farewell to the lad I shall ne'er see again.
Farewell to my hero, the gallant and young
Farewell to the lad I shall ne'er see again.

2. The moorcock that craws on the brow of Ben Connal
He kens o' his bed in a sweet mossy hame
The eagle that soars on the cliffs of Clanronald
Unawed and unhunted, his eyrie can claim
The solan can sleep on his shelve of the shore
The cormorant roost on his rock of the sea
But oh! There is one whose hard fate I deplore
Nor house, manor hame, in this country has he
The conflict is past and our name is no more
There's nought left but sorrow for Scotland and me.

3. The target is torn from the arm of the just
The helmet is cleft on the brow of the brave
The claymore forever in darkness must rust
But red is the sword of the stranger and slave
The hoof of the horse and the foot of the proud
Have trod o'er the plumes on the bonnet of blue
Why slept the red bolt in the breast of the cloud
When tyranny revelled in blood of the true?
Farewell, my young hero! The gallant and good
The crown of thy fathers is torn from thy brow.
^^
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GLENWHORPLE HIELANDERS^^^

There's a braw fine regiment as ilka mon should ken,
They are deevils at the fechtin', they ha'e clured a sicht o'men,
And ha'e suppit muuckle whusky when the canteen they gang ben,
The Hielan'men frae braw Glenwhorple.

CHO: Heuch! Glenwhorple Hielan'men!
Great strong whusky-suppin' Hielan'men,
Hard-workin', hairy-leggit Hielan'men,
Slainte mhor Glenwhorple.

2. They were foonded by McAdam, who of a' men was the fairst,
He resided in Glen Eden, whaur he pipit like tae burst,
Wi' a fig leaf for a sporran, an'a pairfect Hielan thairst,
Till he stole awa' the aipples frae Glenwhorple. CHO.

3. When the waters o'the deluge drookit a' the whole world o'er.
The Colonel o' the Regiment his name was Shaun McNoah,
Sae a muckle boat he biggit an' he sneckit up the door,
An' he sailed awa' from drooned Glenwhorple. CHO.

4. Then syne he sent a corporal, and gert him find the land
He returned wi' an empty whusky bottle in his hand,
Sae they kent the flood was dryin'; he was fu', ye understand,
For he'd foond a public hoose abune the water. CHO.

5. When good King Solomon was ruler o' the Glen,
He had a hundred pipers and a thoosan' fechtin' men,
An' a mighty fine establishment I hae no doot ye ken,
For he kept a sicht o' wives in auld Glenwhorple. CHO.

6. Then there came a birkie bangster, who was chieftain o'the Clan,
His name it was t'Wallace, an' he was a fechtin' mon,
For he harried a' the border and awa' the Southron ran,
Frae the dingin' o' the claymores o' Glenwhorple. CHO.

7. When the bonnie pipes are skirlin', an' the lads are on parade
I' the braw Glenwhorple tartan, wi' the claymore an' the plaid,
When the Sergeant-Major's sober an' the Colonel's no afraid
O' seein' tartan spiders in Glenwhorple! CHO.

8. Eh, a bonnie sicht they mak', when the canteen they gang ben
When the morn's parade is o'er, she'll be fu' a' drunken' men,
An' a thoosan' canty kilties will be stottin' doon the Glen
For they drink a power o' whusky in Glenwhorple. CHO.
^^^
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JESSIE, THE FLOWER OF DUNBLANE^^

The sun has gane down o'er the lofty Ben Lomond
And left the red clouds to reside o'er the scene
While lanely I stray in the calm simmer gloamin'
To muse on sweet Jessie, the flow'r o' Dunblane.
How sweet is the brier wi' its saft faulding blossom
And sweet is the birk wi' its mantle o' green
But sweeter and fairer and dear to this bosom
Is charming young Jessie, the flow'r o' Dunblane.
Is charming young Jessie, is charming young Jessie
Is charming young Jessie, the flow'r o' Dunblane.

2. She's modest as on-y and blythe as she's bonnie
For guileless simplicity makes her its aim
And far be the villain, divested of feeling
Wha'd blight in its bloom, the sweet flow'r of Dunblane.
Sing on, thou sweet mavis, thy hymn to the evening
Thour't dear to the echoes of Calderwood glen
Sae dear to this bosom, sae artless and winning
Is charming young Jessie, the flow'r o' Dunblane.
Is charming young Jessie, is charming young Jessie
Is charming young Jessie, the flow'r o' Dunblane.

3. How lost were my days till I met wi' my Jessie
The sports o' the city seem'd foolish and vain
I ne'er saw a nymph I would ca' my dear lassie
Till charm'd wi' sweet Jessie, the flow'r o' Dublane.
Tho' mine were the station of liftiest grandeur
Amidst its profusion I'd languish in pain
And reckon as naething, the height of its splendour
If wanting sweet Jessie, the flow'r o' Dunblane
If wanting sweet Jessie, if wanting sweet Jessie
If wanting sweet Jessie, the flow'r o' Dunblane.
^^
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LASSIE LIE NEAR ME^^^

Lang have we parted been,
Lassie my dearie
Now we are met again,
Lassie lie near me

CHO: Near me, near me,
Lassie my dearie
Lang hast thou lain alane,
Lassie lie near me

2. All that I have endured,
Lassie my dearie
In your arms it is cured,
Lassie lie near me CHO.

3. If in the spring we meet,
Lassie my dearie
All joy will be near me,
Lassie lie near me CHO.

See "LADDIE LIE NEAR ME (4)" in DigiTrad. -JoeClone, 19-Jun-01.

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LOCHNAGAR^^
Lord Byron

Away, ye gay landscapes, ye gardens of roses,
In you let the minions of luxury rove,
Restore me the rocks where the snow-flake reposes,
Though still they are sacred to freedom and love.
Yet Caledonia, belov'd are thy mountains,
Round their white summits the elements war
Though cataracts foam 'stead of smooth-flowing fountains,
I sigh for the valley of dark Lochnagar.

2. Ah! there my young footsteps in infancy wander'd,
My cap was the bonnet, my cloak was my plaid.
On chieftains long perish'd my memory ponder'd
As daily I strode thro' the pine cover'd glade.
I sought not my home till the day's dying glory
Gave place to the rays of the bright Polar star.
For fancy was cheer'd by traditional story,
Disclos'd by the natives of dark Lochnagar!

3. Years have roll'd on, Lochnagar, since I left you!
Years must elapse ere I tread you again.
Though nature of verdure and flow'rs has bereft you,
Yet still are you dearer than Albion's plain.
England, thy beauties are tame and domestic
To one who has roamed over mountains afar
O! for the crags that are wild and majestic,
The steep frowning glories of dark Lochnagar.
^^


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Oct 98 - 09:57 PM

Hi, John - well, it took me about half an hour to edit your post. Take a lesson from the Sorcerer's Apprentice - don't use HTML commands that you don't understand. (grin)
They were good songs, though, so I didn't mind editing them. A few of pointers for posting lyrics might be in order:
1. Use header tags and large fonts very sparingly (h1, h2, h3, etc.) Using the <big> or <strong> commands should be enough to give emphasis to a title. The <small> command is quite nice for comments. Be sure to close off those commands with a slash at the end of the text you want emphasized, as in </small>.
2. Use line breaks <br> at the end of each line of lyrics, and double line breaks <br><br> at the end of a paragraph or verse. Try not to use the paragraph <p> command - people who copy the lyrics you’ve posted into word processors have trouble with HTML paragraph commands because many word processors read them as single line breaks and the verses get all mashed together.
3. If you're pasting text from a word processor into Mudcat, it's probably better to use single-spaced text. It's hard to predict how double-spaced text will appear in Mudcat. If you want to have double-spaced text in a Mudcat message, use double line breaks <br><br>, but do it sparingly. You can't get much double-spaced text on a laptop monitor, and some of your fellow Mudcatteers will hate you for filling up their laptop monitors with open space.
But, John, I know your heart was in the right place, so don't worry about it.
-Joe Offer-

You asked about how to tell if there's a tune for songs in the personal computer edition of the database - in the lists of songs that you pull up on searches, the songs that have tunes are marked with an asterisk.


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: Bruce O.
Date: 05 Oct 98 - 12:49 PM

"The De'el's awa with the excise man" and "Bonny Earl of Murray" are already in DT. "Jessie, the Flower of Dunblane" is by Robert Tannahill with music by R. A. Smith. "Flora McDonald's Lament" is James Hogg's reworking of a translation from Gaelic given to Hogg by Niel Gow. It's in vol. 2 of 'Jacobite Relics of Scotland', 1821, with the tune. "Lassie lie near me" is in Scots Musical Museum, with the tune 'Laddie lie near me', as noted in a recent thread.


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 05 Oct 98 - 11:07 PM

Joe - you're bloody marvellous. Thanks for your patience.

I was chasing the DOS syntax to (say) look for @scots songs without an asterisk, with a view to filling in the gaps of missing tunes.

Bruce, thanks for knowledgable response. I would never have known to look for Murray in lieu of Moray. Don't know how I missed 'excise'.

Joe, when I get a chance to work on these tunes, would you mind if I send as part of one thresd - or should I email them to you.

Regards
John


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Oct 98 - 01:33 AM

Oh, John - that was another thing I was going to mention. It might be better not to make your messages quite so long. If they need to be edited, it's a lot easier to fix a shorter message. Best thing to do is post the lyrics in MIDITXT - right here in this thread, so Dick and the rest of us can find them together. If you need help with MIDITXT, give me a holler.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: skw@
Date: 06 Oct 98 - 04:48 AM

I've only ever seen 'Cauld Kail in Aberdeen' listed as 'Trad', but I suppose it WAS written by Robert Burns? Does anyone know when and where it was first published?

Also, my (or rather, The Corries') version of 'Dark Lochnagar' has this third verse:

Ill-starred, though brave, did no visions foreboding
Tell you that fate had forsaken your cause?
Ah! were you destined to die at Culloden
Victory crowned not your fall with applause
Still were you happy in death's earthly slumber
To rest with your clan in the caves of Braemar
The pibroch resounds to the piper's loud number
Your deeds on the echoes of dark Lochnagar

"Years have rolled on ..." is their fourth verse. I think all four verses are in the Penguin Book of Scottish Verse (1970). - Susanne


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Subject: Tune Add: JESSIE, THE FLOWER OF DUNBLANE
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 06 Oct 98 - 11:41 PM

Hre's the tune for Jessie, The Flower of Dunblane.

MIDI file: dunblane.mid

Timebase: 384

TimeSig: 6/8 96 8
Tempo: 067 (895522 microsec/crotchet)
Name: Jessie, The Flower Of Dunblane
Key: G
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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: Bruce O.
Date: 07 Oct 98 - 06:21 PM

There's more than one song and tune "Cauld Kail in Aberdeen", but I know little about these, and Murray on Saltspring is the one to comment on these. My comment here is just an excuse to bring this to the top in hopes that Murray might see it.


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: skw@
Date: 12 Oct 98 - 03:18 AM

Thanks, Bruce. I do hope Murray will respond for I have some difficulties with the song. I only heard it once and didn't know the title then. But the words were the ones John sent, for I remember the singer, Tony Cuffe, commenting that the 'Reel o' Bogie' was 'some kind of horizontal dancing ...'. BTW, I used to think the name of the place was spelt Strathbogie. - Susanne


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Subject: Tune Add: THE EARL OF MORAY
From: alison
Date: 12 Oct 98 - 06:46 AM

Hi John

Here's the tune fro the "Earl of Moray"

Slainte

alison

MIDI file: EARLMORA.MID

Timebase: 480

Name: THE EARL OF MORAY
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Key: E
Tempo: 070 (857142 microsec/crotchet)
Start
1680 1 59 031 0238 0 59 031 0002 1 59 030 0123 0 59 030 0002 1 59 045 0467 0 59 045 0008 1 59 040 0238 0 59 040 0002 1 59 034 0118 0 59 034 0002 1 59 044 0238 0 59 044 0002 1 59 046 0478 0 59 046 0002 1 59 033 0238 0 59 033 0002 1 61 030 0478 0 61 030 0002 1 61 043 0358 0 61 043 0002 1 61 027 0118 0 61 027 0002 1 61 026 0478 0 61 026 0002 1 61 053 0238 0 61 053 0002 1 63 034 0238 0 63 034 0002 1 64 034 0358 0 64 034 0002 1 64 048 0118 0 64 048 0002 1 64 038 0238 0 64 038 0002 1 64 044 0238 0 64 044 0002 1 64 040 0238 0 64 040 0002 1 63 040 0478 0 63 040 0002 1 64 046 0238 0 64 046 0002 1 63 034 0238 0 63 034 0002 1 61 036 0238 0 61 036 0002 1 61 027 0238 0 61 027 0002 1 61 036 0238 0 61 036 0002 1 61 034 0260 0 61 034 0002 1 63 025 0118 0 63 025 0013 1 61 042 0085 0 61 042 0002 1 59 024 0238 0 59 024 0002 1 59 027 0238 0 59 027 0002 1 64 038 0358 0 64 038 0002 1 64 028 0118 0 64 028 0002 1 64 038 0478 0 64 038 0002 1 64 042 0082 1 68 044 0051 0 64 042 0345 0 68 044 0002 1 68 036 0238 0 68 036 0002 1 68 038 0238 0 68 038 0002 1 68 031 0197 1 66 027 0051 0 68 031 0230 0 66 027 0002 1 66 036 0358 0 66 036 0002 1 66 027 0118 0 66 027 0002 1 66 032 0478 0 66 032 0002 1 66 032 0238 0 66 032 0002 1 68 042 0238 0 68 042 0002 1 66 025 0238 0 66 025 0002 1 64 033 0238 0 64 033 0002 1 64 038 0238 0 64 038 0002 1 66 027 0238 0 66 027 0002 1 64 036 0118 0 64 036 0002 1 59 032 0598 0 59 032 0002 1 59 031 0238 0 59 031 0002 1 64 041 0358 0 64 041 0002 1 59 029 0118 0 59 029 0002 1 59 030 0238 0 59 030 0002 1 56 030 0238 0 56 030 0002 1 59 038 0958 0 59 038 0002 1 61 036 0478 0 61 036 0002 1 61 038 0238 0 61 038 0002 1 63 038 0238 0 63 038 0002 1 61 035 0118 0 61 035 0002 1 59 031 0598 0 59 031 0002 1 61 030 0118 0 61 030 0002 1 63 030 0118 0 63 030 0002 1 64 033 0358 0 64 033 0002 1 61 042 0118 0 61 042 0002 1 61 039 0118 0 61 039 0002 1 61 048 0358 0 61 048 0002 1 61 042 0478 0 61 042 0002 1 61 034 0238 0 61 034 0002 1 63 032 0238 0 63 032 0002 1 64 036 0358 0 64 036 0002 1 64 033 0118 0 64 033 0002 1 64 040 0238 0 64 040 0002 1 64 042 0238 0 64 042 0002 1 64 034 0118 0 64 034 0002 1 68 057 0598 0 68 057 0002 1 64 033 0238 0 64 033 0002 1 66 034 0238 0 66 034 0002 1 64 032 0238 0 64 032 0002 1 64 040 0358 0 64 040 0002 1 64 046 0118 0 64 046 0002 1 64 036 0958 0 64 036
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:The Earl of Moray
M:4/4
Q:1/4=70
K:E
B,8|B,/2B,2B,B,/2B,B,2B,|C2C3/2C/2C2CD|E3/2E/2EEED2E|
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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: Susan of DT
Date: 12 Oct 98 - 02:28 PM

John - If you have a DOS disk verison of the DT, use the title search for @Scots. Let the full list develop by hitting page down as it fills up pages. Then go to return to be able to see the whole list. Those without asterisks, as Joe mentioned, do not have tunes entered. If you own the full askSam program, you can run a report on songs without tunes. I had Dick make me such a list (all songs, not just Scots) a year or so ago. If you want a copy, I have it in excel 5 and can send it to you.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE CAULD KAIL OF ABERDEEN
From: Bruce O.
Date: 12 Oct 98 - 06:33 PM

James Maidment found a version of "Cauld Kail of Aberdeen" in a manuscript in the Advocates Library in Edinburgh and published it in 'Ane Pleasant Garland', 1835, and it was reprinted from that in J. S. Farmer's 'Merry Songs and Ballads'. The manuscript (now NLS MS Adv. 19.1.13) is a collection of sheets from many sources bound together, and it's not posible to put a precise date on much in it. Some pieces are of the 17th century, and near the end are some printed broadside sheets, one of which is as late as 1756. The handwritten contents seem to me to range from c 1680 - 1730.

David Herd gave a version of the song in his 'Scots Songs', 1776, II, p. 205, which differs slightly from the MS copy. There is a longer (purified and padded) version in 'Scots Musical Museum', II, #162, where the tune first appeared. There isn't a version in the original 1799 edition of 'The Merry Muses of Caledonian', but a version under the title "The Reels of Bogie" appeared in the c 1827 edition.

[A few of my readings in the MS copy, as given below, differ from Maidment's, but usually agree with Herd's text.] [Dancing, like 'kissing', is a common euphemism; Dancing- Reel of Bogie, Reel of Stumpy, the Dirry-dan, the Shaking of the Sheets.]

The Cald kail of Aberdene
Is warming at Strathbogie
I fear twile tine the heat oer soon
and ne'er fall up the Bogie
The Lasses about Bogingicht
There Leems they are baith dear tight
And if they are but girded right
They'll dance the Reell of Bogie

Wow Aberdeen what did ye mean
sae young a Lass to woo man
I'm leer to take her it is nae mows
Tat e'er it be to you man
But Women now are nae sae blate
But they ken auld Folks out of date
And better play things they can get
Than Castocks in Strabogie.

[There are a few other songs from this MS on my website. There is more than one tune called "The Reel of Bogie", but the only one I have doesn't fit this song.]


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 12 Oct 98 - 07:01 PM

Hi Susan - thanks for the feedback. A few points if I may:

- I love the DOS version of the DT. It's very quick, it's free, it'll run on the most ancient of PC's, and you can work offline. Bust most importantly it gives a concise list of songs with attributes, such as "give me all the @bawdy @irish songs that don't have a tune attached to them.

- In a previous thread (somewhere?) Dick did detail the syntax for doing such a search (esp. the "no tune" bit), but I can't relocate it. I think it involved the use of curly brackets!

- A LOT of Scottish songs do not have @scots in the references. In order to contribute the songs above I did the search for @scots and initially had about 80 songs on my contribution list. A secondary search of the entire whittled this list down to about 10.

Regards
John


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: Alice
Date: 22 Oct 98 - 11:05 AM

I purchased Jean Redpath's volumes of Robert Burns songs (vol.1-6, and there is also a 7th) in order to learn some of the more obscure Burns songs for his birthday celebration in January. Of course... I bought them through the Mudcat link to a music site in order to support this forum... start your Christmas shopping early, Mudcatters!

I was going to start a Robert Burns thread, but an initial forum search brought up this thread title that is appropriate. There are 75 songs in the Volumes 1-6 that Jean Redpath recorded. They include excellent historical background, excerpts from his letters regarding each song, and the complete lyrics. I highly recommend these recordings to anyone interested in Scottish Songs.

Regarding the discussion of Cauld Kail In Aberdeen, it says in Volume 1,
"This song celebrates Aberdeenshire and the river called Bogie which runs through a beautiful strath or valley. In this version, Burn's recollection of the old Cauld Kail (see verses 2-5), have been combined with the traditional song as recorded in the Herd MS. of 1776.

Excerpt from a letter by Burns regarding this song:
"I differ from your idea of the expression of the tune. There is, for me, a great deal of querulous tenderness in it." Burns to G.Thomson, editor, 19 October, 1794

The CD notes have 8 verses to Cauld Kail in Aberdeen.

One of my favorites on this CD is "Country Lassie". I could not find it in the DT. Dick and Susan, do you want it in this thread, or should I start another one called Robert Burns or Country Lassie?

alice in montana


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Subject: Tune Add: GLENWHORPLE HIELANDERS
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 17 Nov 98 - 02:15 AM

GLENWHORPLE HIELANDERS

MIDI file: glenwhor.mid

Timebase: 24

Tempo: 100 (600000 microsec/crotchet)
Key: Bb
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Start
0072 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 72 099 0024 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 72 099 0018 0 72 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 72 099 0018 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0006 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0006 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 65 099 0018 0 65 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 67 099 0018 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0006 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0024 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 72 099 0018 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0006 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0006 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 72 099 0018 0 72 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0036 0 69 000 0000 1 72 099 0012 0 72 000 0000 1 65 099 0018 0 65 000 0000 1 65 099 0006 0 65 000 0000 1 65 099 0018 0 65 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 65 099 0024 0 65 000 0000 1 67 099 0048 0 67 000 0000 1 65 099 0048 0 65 000 0000 1 72 099 0024 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 72 099 0024 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 72 099 0024 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 65 099 0018 0 65 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0024 0 67 000 0000 1 67 099 0048 0 67 000 0000 1 72 099 0024 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0006 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 67 099 0006 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0018 0 69 000 0000 1 70 099 0006 0 70 000 0000 1 72 099 0024 0 72 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 69 099 0048 0 69 000 0000 1 65 099 0036 0 65 000 0000 1 67 099 0012 0 67 000 0000 1 69 099 0024 0 69 000 0000 1 65 099 0024 0 65 000 0000 1 67 099 0048 0 67 000 0000 1 65 099 0024 0 65 000
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This program is worth the effort of learning it.

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X:1
T:
M:4/4
Q:1/4=100
K:Bb
A15/2B/2|c2A2A3/2G/2A3/2B/2|c3/2B/2A3/2G/2A2A3/2B/2|
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c3/2A/2A3/2A/2A3/2G/2A3/2B/2|c3/2B/2A3/2G/2A3c|
F3/2F/2F3/2G/2A2F2|G4F4|c2A2A2A2|c2A2A4|c2A2A3/2G/2F3/2G/2|
A2G2G4|c2A3/2A/2A3/2G/2A3/2B/2|c2A2A4|F3GA2F2|
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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Nov 98 - 01:08 PM

The Web version of the DT uses the phrase CLICK HERE TO PLAY. For a listing of songs without tunes, try {NOT} [*CLICK HERE*]

The asterisks are because there are nome non-printing characters preceding and possibly following the words; the square brackets indicate a phrase and the curly brackets together with NOT or OR indicate a Boolean command.


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Subject: RE: LYR ADD:Some New? Scottish Songs For DT
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 17 Nov 98 - 06:56 PM

Thanks Dick.


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