Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)

Subject: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 01:08 PM

May 3rd this year is the 30th Anniversary of the tragic death of Adge Cutler who was killed just a couple of miles away from where I am living now. As I will already be performing at a local event I would like to include Adge Cutler's "Drink Up Thy Zider" for the assembled throng to join in - but I don't know all the words...anyone?

Subject: RE: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 01:13 PM

click for previous thread

typo corrected - joeclone

Subject: RE: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 01:31 PM

Decipher please...

Subject: RE: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 01:35 PM

Guest meant for you to Click here, but the HTML was wrong.

Subject: RE: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 01:38 PM

no, these lyrics are quite incorrect, it's "milk churns" not "mill stones" and the last line of each verse changes to

still more cider in the Jar/Jug/vat/west... and so on... I can dig out the cd and try to decipher but even though I can see Somerset across the river from my house, the accent of that wonderful country is difficult to decipher...

Subject: Lyr Add: DRINK UP THY ZIDER (from The Wurzels)
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 02:42 PM

I found this but don't know if it's what you're looking for. I also found a page that claimed it had Cutler's lyrics, but the link wouldn't work.

DRINK UP THY ZIDER - The Wurzels

Drink up thy zider George, pass us round the mug
Drink up thy zider George, the garden's ver'nigh dug
Thy cheeks bin gettin' redder
From Charter'ouse to Cheddar
An' there's still more zider in the jug

(Chorus)

Drink up thy zider, Drink up thy zider,
For tonight we'll merry be
We'll knock the milk churns over
And roll 'em in the clover
For the corn's 'alf-cut and so be we!

Drink up thy zider George, thee bissn't goin' far
Drink up thy zider George, thee's gettin' quite a star
There's dung o'er all thy tat'ers
An' 'alfway up thy gaiters
An' there's still more zider in the jar!

(Repeat chorus)

Drink up thy zider George, get up off thick mat
Drink up thy zider George, put on thy girt big 'at
We'm off to Barrow Gurney
For to see my brother Ernie
An' there's still more zider in the vat!

(Repeat chorus)

Drink up thy zider George, 'tis time we 'ad a rest
Drink up thy zider George, the finest ever pressed
There's nothing like good cider
To make your smile grow wider
An' there's still more zider in the West!

(Repeat chorus)

(Repeat chorus)

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:y1O3Jxm3HBYJ:www.geocities.com/phatwill_2000/rasongsheet.htm+%22drink+up+thy+zider%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Subject: RE: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 03:04 PM

THat set of lyrocs ties up with my recollection of Adge's soinging of the song . Well done Sorcha

Subject: RE: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: Big Jim from Jackson
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 04:48 PM

I hope you are not confusing "Drink Up Thy Zider" with "I Am A Cider Drinker". Both are great Wurzel songs---actually, I like the later beter than the first.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 07:01 PM

Sorcha you have it spot on, thank you very much! When I went to Morris practice tonight (www.thewidders.co.uk) I spoke about the fact that we are performing on the 30th anniversary of the day that Adge died and everyone agreed that we should do this song in tribute to him - some of our members were born after he died so they will be introduced to a song they will have never heard... thanks again

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 08:03 PM

Big Jim you are confusing Adge Cutler and the Wurzels with "The Wurzels" and that's a great pity, although Tommy Banner (the only Scottish Wurzel in captivity) joined the band during Adge's lifetime there is absolutely NO comparison between Adge's crew and the post-Adge band...well that's my opinion, anyway

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 08:30 PM

Glad I was of some help then.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: GUEST,Adge Cutler
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 08:58 PM

Yes indeed you were Sorcha... and I thank you

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 04 - 10:07 PM

Notes from the grave even...LOL!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 03:36 AM

And no one on hearing them could possibly confuse the Somerset National anthem with 'I am a cider drinker'......

As a Dorset Dumpling, I suppose my loyalties should lie with the Yetties, but to be honest, I prefer Adge. I still raise a hand in tribute whenever I go round that roundabout.

Lindswidder, where are you if you are not far from there?

LTS

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 04:19 AM

30 years ago..... doesn't time fly. Iremember us doing an impromptu assembly for him in the 5th form....we played various naughty songs and the staff could do nothing about it as we declared it was a memorial service!!!

Sarah

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: red max
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 05:25 AM

It's a shame that The Wurzels' subsequent career in parody has almost eclipsed the Adge era. I know they were never "serious" as such, but they weren't just an annoying Barron Knights/Grumbleweeds type act

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 05:56 AM

Point of interest Liz - Adge wrote some good stuff but he was also
known to 'borrow' - Especially from the late Trevor Crozier. Trevor
wrote a lot of songs about Dorset villages , which Adge 'borrowed'
and re did them with Somerset village names.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Big Jim from Jackson
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 12:14 PM

Of course, you're right about the difference between Adge and the Wurzels and the Wurzels. I just wanted to make sure that all were on the right track, since the two songs' names are so similar. I must admit that I do like both incarnations of the group. (What do we Missourians know, anyway? We have no way of putting the English pub scene into context. In fact, I'm impressed with myself ffor even knowing about anything "wurzel".)    :-)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 01:47 PM

Hi LTS I am about 7 miles from Chepstow on the Welsh side....
Yes time indeed does fly, and you hear people of my era say that they remember exactly where they were when they heard that JFK had been assassinated,and when John Lennon was assassinated, well I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news on Radio that Adge had been killed....it was just unbelievable. I was living in Oxfordshire then. Every time I pass the roundabout where the accident occurred I automatically think of him...

Incidentally I once made a pilgrimage to Nailsea to find the Royal Oak where Adge and the Wurzels made some of their recordings. I was sadly disappointed...the beer was fine but the internal walls of the pub had been ripped out to make one large area instead of lots of little rooms, and the place was emblazoned with football posters and big-screen TV. On the pretence of looking for the Ladies I found a staircase and went up to see if there was anything left of the function-room, and I found it, piled high with junk and old furniture.
There was nothing in the pub to associate it with Adge Cutler and The Wurzels.

Hi Big Jim, don't take offence - you will just have to make that trip across the pond and try us out....

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Big Jim from Jackson
Date: 15 Apr 04 - 06:20 PM

No offence taken, Lindswidder. Check out Paul Gunningham's web site on the Wurzels (Search for Scrumpy and Western), and if you read it closely enough, you'll find mention that the Wurzels (both incarnations) are played on my radio show on occasion. Actually, I haven't played anything much lately, but I will be playing some soon. In fact, I'll probably play the two songs I named in my first comment above. As for a trip (my second)across the pond, I would LOVE to do that, but it doesn't seem likely, at the moment.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 03:27 AM

I had great difficulty in persuading Manitas (a City boy, born and bred) that the place names (Nailsea, Chew Magna and Pylle) were real. It took a trip to Exeketer (Exeter) and a subsequent drive through Somerset to prove to him they were real places. I have still to find the hidden village of Nembneth Thrubwell though.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Snuffy
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 08:43 AM

Nempnett Thrubwell is across Blagdon Lake from Blagdon near Chew Magna

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: GUEST,Lindswidder
Date: 16 Apr 04 - 01:39 PM

Yep I have also been to Nempnett Thrubwell, (there isn't even a pub!) and I would love to meet all those Characters "Up The Clump" !!! My favourite song, I think, is, "Pill, Pill, I Love Thee Still" I also frequently visit Wirzelmania!

Subject: Lyr Add: DRINK UP THE CIDER
From: Peace
Date: 21 Jul 06 - 06:42 PM

DRINK UP THE CIDER

Drink up the cider George, pass me round the jug
Drink up the cider George, thy garden's well nigh dug
There's dung all o'er thy taters and half up thy gaters
And there's still more cider in the jug

Chorus:
Drink up the cider, drink up the cider
For tonight we'll merry be
We'll knock the milk maids over and roll them in the clover
The corn's half cut and so are we

Drink up the cider George, please by goin' far
Drink up the cider George, he's gettin' quite a star
His cheeks are gettin' redder, from charter house to cheddar
And there's still more cider in the jar

Chorus

Drink up the cider George; get up off the mat
Drink up the cider George, put on thy great big hat
We're goin' to Ballyverny (sic) to see me cousin Ernie
And there's still more cider in the bath

Chorus

Drink up the cider George, get up off me chest
Drink up the cider George it's time you had a rest
There's nothing like more cider to make your smile grow wider
And there's still more cider in the West

Chorus
Chorus


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cider Time
From: Barbara
Date: 21 Jul 06 - 08:55 PM

Any chance of finding a tune anywhere, Peace?
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cider Time
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Jul 06 - 09:00 AM

Allmusic.com says DRINK UP THY ZIDER was written by Adge Cutler, and was recorded by The Shaw Brothers on their album "Concert in the Park," Folk Era CD 1454, 2000 (but they pronounce it "Drink up the cider"). Allmusic.com has a brief sound sample but it only includes the chorus.

Subject: Lyr Add: DRINK UP THY ZIDER (Adge Cutler)
From: Barbara
Date: 24 Jul 06 - 02:18 PM

The song Drink Up They Zider was written by Wurtzel band person Adge Cutler apparently in the 1960's, since it appeared on their 1966 recording.
Here's another variant of the words:

Drink Up Thy Zider - The Wurzels

Drink up thy zider George, pass us round the mug
Drink up thy zider George, the garden's ver'nigh dug
Thy cheeks bin gettin' redder
From Charter'ouse to Cheddar
An' there's still more zider in the jug

(Chorus)
Drink up thy zider, Drink up thy zider,
For tonight we'll merry be
We'll knock the milk churns over
And roll 'em in the clover
For the corn's 'alf-cut and so be we!                        

Drink up thy zider George, thee bissn't goin' far
Drink up thy zider George, thee's gettin' quite a star
There's dung o'er all thy tat'ers
An' 'alfway up thy gaiters
An' there's still more zider in the jar!

(Repeat chorus)

Drink up thy zider George, get up off thick mat
Drink up thy zider George, put on thy girt big 'at
We'm off to Barrow Gurney
For to see my brother Ernie
An' there's still more zider in the vat!

(Repeat chorus)

Drink up thy zider George, 'tis time we 'ad a rest
Drink up thy zider George, the finest ever pressed
There's nothing like good cider
To make your smile grow wider
An' there's still more zider in the West!

(Repeat chorus)

(Repeat chorus)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Cider Time
From: Scrump
Date: 25 Jul 06 - 04:21 AM

The lyrics of Drink Up Thy Zider quoted by Barbara are the official ones as sung by Adge Cutler himself (and still sung by the Wurzels at their gigs). The "Irish" version was also recorded by Foster & Allen and I believe it was a hit for them there.

The Yetties song mentioned by Peace is "Fill Up The Cider Cup" (issued on an album in 1972).

The Wurzels (with or without Adge) have recorded various cider-related songs over the years including Drink, Drink Yer Zider Up, I Am A Cider Drinker, I'd Love To Swim In The Z(u)ider Zee, and I'll Never Get A Scrumpy Here.

Not forgetting Trevor Crozier's Dead Dog Scrumpy (also recorded by the Yetties).

But to get back to the original question, there's a song called Apple Wine recorded by the late Brenda Wootton - I don't know if that's the one you're thinking of? I'm not sure, but from my increasingly unreliable memory I think the part of it went something like:

But meantime I think I'll just sit around here
Drinkin' good old apple wine
Good times, bad times, I couldn't care
Drinkin' good old apple wine
Ooh, ooh, high in the air
With good old apple wine
(etc.)

Which on reflection doesn't sound a lot like the song you were looking for!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 11:38 AM

" There's nothing like a good cider

To make thee smile grow wider

And theres still more cider in the West "

Adge Cutler

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 06:34 PM

There seem to be 2 threads about this going at the moment. Would just like to mention (especially to LtS) that Dick Henrywood has written a wonderful song about Nempnett Thrubwell and other double named English villages, and has got the t-shirt saying "I went to Nempnett Thrubwell". Sorry for slight drift...

Kitty

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: GUEST,Mr Turner
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 03:49 AM

What's all this 'Ballyverney' rubbish.

The line is 'I'm off to Barrow Gurney' - a village just South of Bristol which in those days was the location of a famous mental hospital aka lunatic assylum.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Drink Up Thy Zider (Adge Cutler)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 01:47 PM

Loads of stuff about Adge and the Wurzeils, and other Wet Country music here:

http://www.scrumpyandwestern.co.uk/