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Roger the Skiffler 20 Apr 04 - 05:13 AM
LindsayInWales 20 Apr 04 - 05:18 AM
freda underhill 20 Apr 04 - 05:23 AM
Steve Parkes 20 Apr 04 - 05:35 AM
Roger the Skiffler 20 Apr 04 - 09:30 AM
Mary in Kentucky 20 Apr 04 - 10:55 AM
Stilly River Sage 20 Apr 04 - 04:50 PM
GUEST,DavidfromSydney(guest) 20 Apr 04 - 07:21 PM
Liz the Squeak 21 Apr 04 - 12:36 AM
Roger the Skiffler 21 Apr 04 - 04:05 AM
Steve Parkes 21 Apr 04 - 09:46 AM
GUEST,Nickp 21 Apr 04 - 06:06 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 12 Apr 11 - 03:36 AM
kendall 12 Apr 11 - 07:41 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 13 Apr 11 - 02:51 AM
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Subject: Vocal Botox
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:13 AM

Someone on the radio this morning claims they can improve voices by injecting fat from the stomach into the throat.
Maybe my hour has come and they can kill two birds with one stone! (or two stone!).
RtS
(Sorry, sir, your voice is fatter but still out of tune and now your stomach rumbles flat!)


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: LindsayInWales
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:18 AM

blimey, that sort of thing can put you off your breakfast...!!!


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: freda underhill
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:23 AM

if you're worried about tense, strangulating throat muscles, magnesium tablets (from a chemist or health shop) are a muscle relaxant and would help, without having to resort to anything more extreme.

BTW, they also assist with period pains.


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 05:35 AM

Roger, unless you 've put on a lot of weight since we met, you only have one bird to kill. (Although it's a big 'un!)

Freda, I think when Roger sings he's in more danger of strangulation from somebody else's muscles!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 09:30 AM

Thank you,Steve (I think!).
Since retiring, my walking regime maages to counteracting my occasional (ahem!) drink so I keep steady at 11 stone, but most of it seems around my waistline!
RtS


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 10:55 AM

I didn't hear this program, but I heard some time ago that Botox injections in the vocal cords via the back of the neck was helpful to patients with various conditions where the vocal cords don't completely close. I sometimes have a condition where speech is very breathy (not sexy), just out-of-breath sounding.


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 04:50 PM

Check out Diane Rehm at NPR. I've posted about her treatments elsewhere on Mudcat, and she has information on her web site.

The web page includes information about her book, Finding My Voice, and from the site comes this:

    Finally, "Finding My Voice" recounts Rehm's battle with a rare neurological disorder, spasmodic dysphonia (SD), a condition that threatened to end her broadcast career. She was off the air for months searching for a diagnosis and treatment.


SRS


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: GUEST,DavidfromSydney(guest)
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 07:21 PM

I read somewhere in an interview by Linda Thompson that she also had Botox injections in the throat to counteract the same problem. I have her recent CD and her voice sounds fantastic - so the treatment seems to work

David


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 12:36 AM

Well I've heard of people talking through their ass but...........!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 04:05 AM

Actuall, young Steve, my blues voice has been compared to Terry, McGhee, McDowell and Wolf.
Sadly, it was Ellen Terry, Henry McGhee, Roddy McDowell and Virginia Woolf!

RtS
(remember those lovely couples: Ellen & Sonny Terry, Debby & Brownie McGhee, Andi & Mississippi Fred Mcdowell & Virginia & Howlin' Wolf? What a dinner party!)


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 09:46 AM

No, I'm too young!


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: GUEST,Nickp
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 06:06 PM

Yes, Linda Thompson has used it - with some success as I was fortunate enough to have seen/heard her live last May. She said in a newspaper interview that she was wary about it and would be careful not to overdo it.


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 03:36 AM

Someone close to me has spasmodic dysphonia. He used to be a soul/jazz singer, with a quite extraordinary voice, able to mimic anything and everything too.

It's almost destroyed him to have this condition....and he now has Botox injections for it, which do bring his voice back for a few months at a time. For the first few weeks it's hard to swallow, and drinking anything makes you cough, but then things start to settle down.

Often the only way people with this condition can speak is to use the higher vocal chords, so you get a Minnie Mouse kind of voice, which causes far less pain when speaking.

It's also associated with the same part of the brain which causes stuttering...and is so very often linked with nerves and a nervous disposition.

What really makes me angry though is that when the Botox starts to wear off, and the croaky voice comes back, people talk to him as if he's 'simple' or has something mentally wrong with him.

It's a very very hard thing for sufferers to deal with and it starts off a vicious circle of acute nervousness when speaking, which can sometimes lead to people not wanting to go out, because communicating becomes so very hard for them and they just can't take the odd looks.


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: kendall
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 07:41 PM

It didn't work for me, I simply absorbed it.


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 13 Apr 11 - 02:51 AM

I'm not saying this is the reason it didn't work for you, but it can often takes a few goes to get the dosage right, kendall.


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: Genie
Date: 13 Apr 11 - 03:02 AM

On the surface it sounds counterindicated, as botox basically paralyzes the affected muscles. I guess if you can be very selective in which muscles are treated with the botox and which are not, it could be helpful, but I would expect a good many "unexpected and undesired consequences."

But what do I know?


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: kendall
Date: 13 Apr 11 - 08:50 AM

I had more than one go at it.


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Subject: RE: Vocal Botox
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Sep 11 - 01:22 PM

I used to have a good voice but damaged it through cocaine use when I was younger, as it gave me a bad habit of clearing my nose and throat, it was disgusting and Im ashamed of myself for doing it but I am gutted as my singing voice is nothing like it used to be, do you think Botox could help me get my voice back ?


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