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Origins: Shit I've Forgotten the Words (bawdy)

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Turlough 10 Aug 04 - 03:52 AM
Leadfingers 10 Aug 04 - 05:23 AM
Turlough 10 Aug 04 - 05:42 AM
Hovering Bob 10 Aug 04 - 09:47 AM
Barbara 10 Aug 04 - 02:12 PM
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Subject: Origins: Shit I've forgotten the words
From: Turlough
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 03:52 AM

Allright, I did some "research" in the DT, and I know that this song was written by Murray Lewis... I only heard this song on a recording by Hamish Imlach, and I noticed that Bob Hambleton said here that the part that Imlach uses as a chorus was originally a verse. I was wondering, is the tune that Imlach used the same as the one that Lewis used?

T.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Shit I've forgotten the words
From: Leadfingers
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 05:23 AM

I suggest you send a PM to Hovering Bob (self same Bob Hambleton) as
he used to sing with Murray . That is unless he sees this and responds in here himself .


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Subject: RE: Origins: Shit I've forgotten the words
From: Turlough
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 05:42 AM

Thanks, Leadfingers. I didn't know that!

T.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Shit I've forgotten the words
From: Hovering Bob
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 09:47 AM

I'm afraid I don't really know Hamish's version that well, I heard it just the once on 'Folk on 2' some years ago. I have the manuscript that Murray wrote, which I'll dig out and scrutinise.
Murray wrote a tune for the first verse which then changed for the rest of the song, the first verse version was to act as a clarion call to get people's attention and to be honest I'm not sure how accurate my rendition is to the original. (My musicality is such that I know I wonder off key occasionally, which I usually try to mask by pretending to sing under stress at having forgotten the words.)
Murray wrote it very quickly, he told me, in the loo at a pub sing-a-round where a lot of people were forgetting the words. To aid his memory (it's not a song on which you want to get wrong!) he made each verse start with words so that their initial letters were "M" "L" "S" "O" "S", his initials and SOS, for obvious reasons. It does help the memory process.
Bless him, he once took a week off work to redecorate his flat but instead committed all the tunes to the songs he had written to manuscript, which I now have. He never did finish that redecoration. He would be really chuffed at the interest in his music. He was a dear friend and I still miss him. I really ought to do more of his stuff, a fitting tribute.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Shit I've forgotten the words
From: Barbara
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 02:12 PM

Oh dear. I've been singing this song and attributing it to Hamish Imlach. The real author is Murray Lewis?
And I've also modified it (slightly) to fit contemporary US standards by
1. substituting an ATM statement for the "packet of fags",
2. using various of my friends' names in the verse where you call a friend for the words.
3. The forum discussion originally listed the tune as "the Mucking of Geordie's Byre", and I picked up the tune from DT, only to discover after I committed it all to memory that the tune was incorrectly identified. So I'm using some other mysterious tune that I never did identify, alas, and the song has been quite popular. I've taught it to a number of people.
So, Bob, I'm one of the people who helped feed the song to the folk processor.
What is the original tune and where can I find it?
Who might be available to give me permission to use it?
Thanks,
Blessings,
Barbara


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