SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs

Subject: Seeking bawdy song expert
From: harpgirl
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 08:37 AM

Hi gargoyle! This fellow is looking for you. He thinks I know who you really are, where you live, and what your phone number is. What a silly idea!!!! Contact him would you, so he can pick your little concrete noggin....love harpy





Dear harpgirl,

Collect bawdy folksongs and am seeking Gargoyle (see post below). Whould you happen to know what name Gargoyle goes under now or, perhaps, his real name?

Thanks!

John Mehlberg
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My bawdy songs, toasts and recitations website: www.immortalia.com

Subject: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: John M.
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 02:09 PM

Hello everyone,

I am seeking Gargoyle who typed the message pasted below. I would like to correspond with him about bawdy songs.

If you know him please have him respond to this post or he can email me directly at [e-mail].

Any help will be appreciated.

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
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My bawdy songs, toasts and recitations website: www.immortalia.com




User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
[PM] GUEST,.gargoyle Rugby Football Songs (288* d) RE: Rugby Football Songs 03 Oct 01

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Have heard this one for years and years and no doubt there are 49 more verses

CANAL STREET


Walking down Canal Street
Knocking every door
Goddamn son-of-a-bitch
Couldn't find a whore


Finally found a whore
Trying to get it in
Goddamn son-of-a-bitch
Couldn't get it in


Finally got it in
Trying to get it out
Goddamn son-of-a-bitch
Couldn't get it out


Finally got it out
The thing was red and sore
The moral of this story:
Never fuck a whore.

Subject: RE: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: John M.
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 03:44 PM

Dear Guest,

Yes, I am on the right website. The above songs are TRADITIONAL bawdy songs and recitations.

Gargoyle, I hear that you play rugby and have a collection of rugby songs. If possible I would like to correspond with you.

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: Amos
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 04:27 PM

John:

You're on the right site, and if you persist sooner or later Gargoyle will come out of the woodwork and answer you, I expect. Itis possible one of the admins of this site can contact him and tell him you're looking for him, I dunno. Keep checking back.


A

Subject: RE: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 05:00 PM

His usual posting time is late-night Mudcat time.

~S~

Subject: RE: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 07:15 PM

Mr. Mehlberg - I have e-mailed you.
A most hearty GREETINGS!

Regretfully,

Virtually all of the Rugby Songs I have available.... have been posted to the MudCat thread....and their sources (when known) noted.

Please, share additional ones from your collection and post them to the thread.

The thread will continue to grow....and I have at least a 100 more additions - however, the next grouping are not "technicaly rugby" but a peculiar para-mutation of down-down-songs.

Soon to be adding midi files for tunes that have been heard.

The MudCat also has LOTS of the other great "rugby" classics such as "The Engineer's Song" (F--king Machine) which are retreaved through a search of "bawdy" and that were collected by Mr. Greenhouse and others.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: John M.
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 07:35 PM

Dear Gargoyle,

Thanks for emailing me. Yes, I will post unusual songs here. Currently I have been posting them to Bawdyfilk a Yahoo! group.

I would like to interview you and, if possible, have you sing the songs that you know to me over the phone and into a recorder. You can see some of my recordings here: http://tinyurl.com/2sphr

If you would rather not sing, I understand...you need to DRINK first ;)

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
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My bawdy songs, toasts and recitations website: www.immortalia.com

Subject: RE: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 08:18 PM

Impressive start John!! Nice layout, quick loading, accessible.

And I see that "The Big Wheel" (Engineer's etc) is in your collection.

You have already a diverse sampling with some big names - Mr. Greenhouse, and Abby Sale, and the "Gypseys in the Palace"....not to mention the Seegar recordings etc.

My next additions to the MC Rugby Thread will be from H3 collections -you have some of the classics.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: Teresa
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 09:43 PM

Oh, much fun. ;) :)

T

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 09:43 PM

I have to admit that I'm a little bit shy about bawdy songs, and I don't usually sing them myself. Maybe it's not that I'm shy - they just don't seem to fit my image of myself. Does that make sense?

Nonetheless, I find bawdy songs to be very interesting. I especially enjoy it when Dick Greenhaus gets on a bawdy songs kick. I can listen to him singing those songs all night and not get tired. He has bazillions of 'em in his head.

Gargoyle has also been a major contributor of bawdy lyrics here. Are there any other Mudcatters with expertise in bawdy songs, people I should notify when we have a bawdy-song question that doesn't get answered? We have a whole stable of occasional Mudcatters who know old-time or classic country songs, and I e-mail them when we get stuck. How about bawdy songs?


-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: alanabit
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 11:41 AM

Why not? They are true folk songs - and probably the most genuine part of the current living tradition in the UK. As I wrote elsewhere, my tastes run shy of witless filth. However, plenty of the rugby songs I know are witty, original .... and filth. We don't try to sing them for nice old ladies and vicars tea parties, but at the right time and place they are worth preserving. It's like anything else here, if people don't expect to like them, they don't have to read, sing or listen to them. Whatever my differences of opinion with Gargoyle have been elsewhere, I acknowledge his prodigious knowledge of these songs. It would be a shame to waste it.

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: Bert
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 09:37 PM

Hey John I've not heard that song in years.

When I first heard it the "Goddamn son-of-a-bitch"
part was "Gor blimey Mrs Murphy"

It went slightly differntly but was definately a version of the same song.

When I got it in boys
and wiggled it about
Gor blimey Mrs Murphy
if I couldn't get it out.

And when I got it out boys
all wet and sticky and sore
Gor blimey Mrs Murphy
if she didn't ask for more.

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 11:25 PM

Interesting site you have. I'll have to listen to some more but I think after I heard "Roll back my fore-skin for me", that was enough for tonight!

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: John M.
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 01:47 AM

Dear Bert,

Thanks for your version of Mrs. Murphy. May I ask when/where you learned it?

Here is a complete(?) version from a Usenet archive:

    (typed to a rap beat)
    Good morning Mrs Murphy I praise your heart and soul.
    I tried to fuck your daughter but I couldn't find her hole.
    I finaly found her hole beneith a golden flock,
    god damn it Mrs Murphy I couldn't find my cock!
    I finaly found my cock beneath some folds of skin,
    god damn it Mrs Murphy I couldn't get it in!
    I finally got it in and wiggled it all about,
    god damn it Mrs Murphy I couldn't get it out!
    I finallly got it out all black and bruised and sore,
    God damn it Mrs Murphy,
    Your daughter wanted MORE!

    [From: Carol Mandera mandera AT lewis.MT.net,
    Date: 1996/09/08, Usenet: rec.motorcycles.harley]

The Mrs/Mr Murphy version is much rarer than "Walking Down Canal Street". I have a fragment of this recitation from Murray Shoolbraid from the late 1940's. Legman mentions it in "Unprintable Ozark Songs" which he learned as a child in the 1920's. Otherwise very few people know Mrs Murphy.

Gargoyle are you in the USA or Canada? By you email address is suspect that you are in Germany which will make recording your songs over the phone much more expensive.

If anyone knows any songs and is willing to sing them, I do recordings over the phone. You can reach me by sending an email to [e-mail]. I encourage you to sing the songs that you know even if I have a version on my website because everyone does their songs diferently and, very often, to completely different tunes. If you like I can make the recordings anonymous...

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
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My bawdy songs, toasts and recitations website: www.immortalia.com

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: alanabit
Date: 20 Sep 04 - 02:15 AM

We could have done with this site a couple of years ago when my girlfriend was researching for her dissertation on bawdy ballads. It's impressive though, although it's not the sort of material I use!

Subject: RE: Seeking bawdy song expert
From: harpgirl
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 12:02 AM

consolidate

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: Bert
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 12:33 AM

When - 1949
Where - Forest Gate London.

A few years later, I also heard a version that went "Bless my heart and soul Sir"
with pretty much the same verses.

Subject: RE: Seeking bawdy song expert
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 03:30 AM

Subject: RE: Folklore: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle
From: GUEST,.gargoyle - PM
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 07:15 PM

Mr. Mehlberg - I have e-mailed you.
A most hearty GREETINGS!

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 04:06 AM

Mr. Mahlberg there apppears to be a problem with Mail failure - malformed recipient address A message that you sent contained a recipient address that was incorrectly constructed:To: [e-mail]

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: John M.
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 12:54 PM

Dear Gargoyle,

I received one of your emails. You said that most of your material has been posted to MudCat. I would, if possible, like to have you sing your songs to me because the TUNE is important and often there are numerious tunes used for the same song.

Are you in Germany as your email address implies?

Sincerely,

John Mehlberg
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My bawdy songs, toasts and recitations website: www.immortalia.com

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: M.Ted
Date: 21 Sep 04 - 01:47 PM

Why so shy, Gargoyle?

Subject: RE: SEEKING Guest,.Gargoyle - re: Bawdy songs
From: GUEST,????????
Date: 25 Sep 04 - 01:15 PM

Look here:don't let the glasses fool ya