Mudcatters Sponsor SongLinks II track !!

Subject: A Challenge to US Folkies (US-UK Song Links)
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 09:37 PM

I recently happened to be shooting the breeze with Martyn Wyndham-Read and the subject of "Song Links II" came up. (Some of you may already be aware of the "Song Links I" – a double CD, one of English Traditional Songs; the other their Australian variants. For more info check out Martyn's website ).

Song Links II deals with English-US "song links", and Martyn is hoping to fund it pretty much the same way he did the last one: "...funding... was not forthcoming from organisations we had hoped would want to support Song Links. My wife Danni came up with the idea of approaching the Folk Community, that is the festivals, folk clubs, interested individuals, or indeed anyone who loved the music and who would want to be part of this project, and we called this the Dan Plan. I have to say that the response, enthusiasm, goodwill, and generosity was absolutely fantastic..."

Since I'm from the US, he mentioned to me that when he contacted various US folk organizations, the response was "disappointing". As a transplanted Yank, I can tell you that this is a sterling example of British understatement; not only did he not receive a single positive response, but only 2-3 people/organizations gave him the courtesy of any response at all. I have to confess it made me feel a bit embarrassed on behalf of US folkies.

I know it's tough times in the US, but surely we, too, have the capacity for "enthusiasm, goodwill, and generosity" in support of such a worthwhile (not to mention fascinating!) project.

More info from the website:
"For the sum of £300 (~$500 US) you sponsor a track on the CD once again produced by Fellside Recordings, have a 5-line dedication within the CD booklet, giving details and contacts of your club or festival also stating why you liked that particular song or singer, or just a dedication to someone you wish to remember, the choice is yours. We are again using the Dan Plan, which was such a popular success. You also have the opportunity to buy the CD at trade price.

"The singers for the English side will be: The Copper Family, John Copper, Shirley Collins, John Kirkpatrick, Bill Whaley & Dave Fletcher, The Wilsons, Mary Humphreys & Anahata, myself Martyn Wyndham-Read, and Emily Portman with Lauren McCormick and Jim Causley who are studying for a degree in Traditional Music.

"Iris Bishop will once again be Musical Co–ordinator. Jeff Davis is co-ordinating the American singers, who are: Jean Ritchie, Tim Eriksen, Jody Stecher, Bruce Molsky, Skip Gorman & Mary Burdette, Cassie Franklin, Sara Grey, Kieron Means, Sheila Kay Adams, and Jeff Davis."

I'm pleased to say that after I posted about this on a different folk mailing list, Sing Out! and The Ark have each decided to sponsor a song, but I am hoping that yet more support will be coming from the US. I to urge you to check out the Song Links Project at Martyn's website (then click on the "Song Links" link) and give it serious consideration. Even if your own group/organization cannot see its way clear to sponsor a track, perhaps you know of another group (or even a person) who could? Or maybe join forces with another group or two?

A friend of mine suggested, "I'm sure there are plenty of us who'd be able to make a donation without needing to have our name on the cut. Especially if we could do it after the election!" Perhaps we could set something up where Mudcatters could contribute individually and the resulting amount could be "from Mudcat"?

BTW, I confess that there has already been a Song Links II thread, but I thought it might be useful to start a thread which will (I hope) be more likely to attract the attention of my fellow "Yank" folkies.

Feel free to ask me any questions you might still have; if you want to contact Martyn, his @ddress is [e-mail]

Cheers,

YY
(Just so you know, I'm not on commission; I have nothing to gain from this, except perhaps a certain sense of pride in the US folk scene supporting an exciting, musically high-quality project that will enrich the world's body of folk material.)

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 09:48 PM

Not that much to spare, but how about 10-20 of us here sponser a mudcat track?

I think I could go $25-50 US.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 09:53 PM

Well done bb! I could contribute $25 myself. (I wish it could be more, but things are pretty tight at the moment.) Anyone else?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: Burke
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 10:01 PM

What are Tim Eriksen & Cassie Franklin going to be contributing? If it's Sacred Harp related some Sacred Harp singers might get interested.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 10:53 PM

Great idea, Burke! Here's the list of songs & performers:

Songs for SONG LINKS 2 (English / American)
--------------------------------------------
STILL GROWING       - John Copper / Tim Eriksen
BABES IN THE WOOD    - The Copper Family / Cassie Franklin
ROSE OF ALLENDALE    - The Copper Family/ Jeff Davis
OXFORD GIRL          - John Kirkpatrick/ Sheila Kay Adams (Knoxville Girl)
QUESTIONS WISELY EXPOUNDED - John Kirkpatrick / Bruce Molsky
POLLY VAUGHAN       - Dave Fletcher & Bill Whaley / Kieron Means
PRETTY PLOUGHBOY    - Dave Fletcher & Bill Whaley / Bruce Molsky
GYPSY DAVEY          - The Wilsons / Skip Gorman & Mary Burdette (Clayton Boone)
LOCKS AND BOLTS      - Martyn W-R / Sara Grey
AS I WALKED OUT      - Martyn W-R / Sheila Kay Adams (False Young Man)
BARBARA ALLEN       - Mary Humphries & Anahata / Cassie Franklin
MAY DAY CAROL       - Mary Humphries & Anahata / Jean Ritchie
PRICKILIE BUSH       - Jim Causley / Tim Eriksen (GALLOWS TREE)
YOUNG MAN CUT DOWN   - Jim Causley / Sara Grey (UNFORTUNATE RAKE)
BANKS OF GREEN WILLOW- Shirley Collins /Jeff Davis
CUCKOO               - Shirley Collins / Jean Ritchie (THE CUCKOO)
TARRY TROUSERS       - Emily Portman & Lauren McCormick / Jody Stecher
POLLY OLIVER         - Emily Portman & Lauren McCormick / Jody Stecher


These are the tracks still available for sponsorship (this may have changed slightly by now):

Babes in the Wood…… Copper Family.
Babes in the Wood…… Cassie Franklin.
Rose of Allendale ……..Jeff Davis.
Oxford Girl……………… John Kirkpatrick.
Sheila Kay Adams……. Knoxville Girl.
Questions wisely Expounded…. Bruce Molsky
Polly Vaughan……. Kieron Means
Pretty Ploughboy….Bruce Molsky
Gypsy Davey………Ship Gorman and Mary Burdette
False Young Man….Sheila Kay Adams.
Barbara Allen………Mary Humphries and Anahata.
Barbara Allen………Cassie Franklin
Mayday Carol...........Jean Ritchie
Prickilie Bush……..Jim Causley
Young Man Cut Down…Jim Causley
Unfortunate Rake...........Sara Grey
Banks of Green Willow….Jeff Davis
Cuckoo………………… Jean Ritchie
Tarry Trousers……….. Jody Stecher
Polly Oliver……. Emily Portman and Lauren McCormick
Polly Oliver…….Jody Stecher

====================================

I'm not an authority on Sacred Harp, but my guess is that Babes in the Wood and Barbara Allen don't qualify... ;-) And it looks like Tim Eriksen's tracks are already sponsored (I have no idea who by). Ah, well – a good thought even so...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 11:16 PM

ok, if I do not make it to the Getaway, you can give checks/??? to Carly. I'll collect them ( deposit checks, etc) and find out who to forward the money to. If anyone does not trust me, make out the check to whoever the link says, and I will forward it.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 11:30 PM

Or maybe funds should go through, say, FSGW? Any conmments? What would you all prefer?

Bruce Gewirz aka beardedbruce

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: RWilhelm
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 11:47 PM

I'd be willing to make a contribution in the same neighborhood as beardedbruce's. Is it still feasable with small independent donations?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Oct 04 - 11:53 PM

Me too. I will see Carly at the Getaway.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 12:22 AM

Your friend's timing is way off. All of my legit friends lined up contracts, gigs, costumed historicals, 20, 15, even 8 years ago.

The U.S.A. market has been full... to bursting.... for the past five years. The only ones getting rich are the promoters as they sell dreams .... not realities .... to the wanna-be.

Worth-while "Acres of Diamonds" projects abound in each of our own neighborhoods.....no need to go scrounging a "foreign adoption."

Your cause is worthy....but most of us can find crews within a square mile....who are equally worthwhile.

Plead your/their/his/her case in your own Jerusaleum.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 12:44 AM

I try to ignore the Gargoyle, but it's worth reiterating that

Jean Ritchie, Tim Eriksen, Jody Stecher, Bruce Molsky, Skip Gorman & Mary Burdette, Cassie Franklin, Sara Grey, Kieron Means, Sheila Kay Adams, and Jeff Davis

constitute a pool of talent from the west side of "the pond" who are nothing to sneeze at.

I'm in for $25.

~ Becky in Tucson (and not likely to get to the Getaway)

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:25 AM

I'm hoping that Martyn may be able to set up something on his website so people can donate through PayPal – which would also help with the currency conversion issues. I will keep you all posted.

What is FSGW? would it help with currency conversion?

I live in England (Yorkshire, as a matter of fact) these days, and won't be attending the Getaway myself, but I can write a check for Martyn in pounds sterling, so that's not a problem for me. I know El Greko is planning to be at the Getaway, so he might be able to help "facilitate" things. (I'll pm him about it.)

Many thanks to those who've been so supportive thus far – I'm definitely starting to feel better now that we're not looking so apathetic as we did at first!

— YY (Vikki Appleton Fielden)

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:30 AM

I'm in as well -

If we do this as sponsored by the MudCat - maybe we can choose one of Jean's tracks?

Just a suggestion.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:52 AM

Sounds extremely appropriate to me...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 02:57 PM

Perhaps I can help with the collection and currency conversion, as I have PayPal on my website. I can set up a "product" called "American Mudcatters Songlinks II Contributions" and people can pay into it in multiples of, say, 5 US dollars (so, for $25 you simply "buy" 5 units). Once we have reached $540 (which is what 300 UK pounds are roughly worth today), I will close it and sponsor the track you have chosen.

Three questions:
a) Are you happy doing it this way?
b) We can't have all the names of the contributors mentioned on the booklet - but we could have a reference to "the American branch of the Mudcat Forum", or something like that.
c) Neither can we expect a free CD for each of the contributors - but they could order the CD at trade price ($8-$10) if they wish, from Martyn; I will provide him with the names of the contributors from my PayPal account, for verification.

I think this would be the easiest way to do this. Shall I go on and create the "product"?

George

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 03:03 PM

It would be really appropriate and neat, imo, if Art Thieme's Cowboy Babr'ry Allen were included..it seems a prime example of just how the songs crossed the pond and were adapted.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 03:14 PM

I'm good for $25 toward the "Mudcat track." You also asked for possible sources...have you tried the Northwest Folklife
people?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 03:25 PM

I believe Folklife have sponsored one of the tracks (don't know which).

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 06:44 PM

Hi Katlaughing – Including Art's rendition of Barbry Allen is a very cool idea, but this project is not in its early stages. Logistically, they're not at a point where they can just add in another song...

Artbrooks, good idea – I'll ask Martyn & Danni.

El Greko, thanks SO much for being willing to coordinate all this and set it up on your website. That makes it SO much easier for everyone!

As far as I'm concerned, yes, please go ahead & do it (no surprise there, then). Izzat OK with everyone else?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 08:00 PM

I was wrong - it was "Sing Out", not Folklife, that is already a sponsor...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 12 Oct 04 - 09:25 PM

Thanks EG – have just sent off an e-mail to Northwest Folklife.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 01:19 AM

Thanks, YY, wasn't sure. Good luck...if I sell more books, I'll be able to contribute, too, and would like to.:-)

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 06:04 AM

Right, the donation facility is up and running. I have included on my website an option for "American Mudcatters Sponsorship for Songlinks II", which allows you to donate any amount you like from $1 upwards, either in US or Canadian dollars. I will keep you informed of progress as the amount (hopefully) grows.

To donate, go to El Greko's website and follow the link from the NEWS section on the front page (just under the "choirboy" drawing of yours truly).

George

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 08:25 AM

Not to be too negative, but there will be a capacity for refunds if we come up short, won't there?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 08:29 AM

BTW,why is there a $4 "shipping and handling" fee on my (cancelled pending reply) $25 contribution?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 08:32 AM

Oh sugar! Sorry artbrooks, I will correct the "shipping" thing (it's a default from my CD sales facility).

As for refunds if we don't reach the total, I can (and will) certainly do that. PayPal allows that.

Back in a jiffy, when I have corrected the shipping cockup...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 08:49 AM

I have just zeroed all US and Canada postage and shipping charges, so it should be OK. Please try again art, and apologies for the mistake.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 09:06 AM

for those of us plastic impaired - checks to Carly or BeardedBruce at the Getaway? Made out to whom?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 09:11 AM

I would suggest you make cheques out to BearedBruce, because it's hard to cash US cheques in the UK. Bruce can then make the payment into PayPal.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 09:22 AM

Song Links I is a beautiful double CD, with Uk artists doing traditional songs on one CD, and Aussie artists doing the australian variants on the other. Any CD that Martyn Winging Road (as we call him here) is involved in will be an outstanding collection of songs, beautifully performed. I bought 4 Song Links Cds and gave three away to friends and family - I have no doubt the next one will be just as good, and look forward to buying it when its complete.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 09:31 AM

Payment winging your way via PayPal

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 10:43 AM

It winged and landed, Art - thanks!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 04:57 PM

George, the page you set up is really nice! Good info & explanation, & looks good too. Looks like you went to a fair bit of trouble – thanks again.

Have tried to donate a few times but am getting some kind of error message/trouble getting through (a problem with PayPal – not with your site)... but will keep trying. (Has anyone else manage dto get through today?)

Artbrooks, I'm feeling optimistic – if everyone who's already posted saying they will donate actually does so, we should be more than halfway there already...

Kat, I know how it goes – hope the book sales do well!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 07:41 PM

I don't use paypal ( friends have had too many problems) but I can coordinate and send one check to the sppropriate person. I'll set up an account to deposit them in, and make sure they clear over here, then send certified funds to ???.

Bruce (beardedbruce) Gewirz

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Oct 04 - 08:41 PM

YY, my PayPal payment went through w/o a hitch.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 02:45 AM

BB, YorkshireYankee would be your best bet, as she has a US account. Thanks for offering to act as "clearing house" for papaer payments.

See you in 48 hours or less - getting all excited...

George

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 04:55 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 09:22 PM

Bruce – Thanks for all your help!

You can write me a check in US $$. Just so you know, though, what I will probably do is use PayPal myself to then get that money to Martyn & Danni. The thing about converting funds from $ to £ (or vice versa) is that the bank/financial institution involved tends to charge a pretty hefty fee for that privilege, so it's cheaper to do it directly via a credit card.

As for having problems with PayPal, it may be cookie issues, I'll check it out. At this point, though, I'll prolly wait 'til I get the check from Bruce (and add on my $25) before trying to use PayPal again – I'd rather do it all in one swell foop...

George, have a safe trip & a great time (am sure you will)!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 10:43 PM

LaughKat!!!

Cough-up a fur-ball of $540 US dollars...and your own personal momento to Art Thieme's Cowboy Babr'ry Allen will be permanently recorded

Come HEAR.... kitty, kitty, kitty.

Ain't you, ain't me, ain't nobody (without an ISBN number) goin' to go donatin' to such a fool un-substantiated "dare" to cross-the-line from across the pond.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Oct 04 - 10:49 PM

Holy CRAP! Yes,

REFRESH!!!!!

This thread has the stinch of an unwashed busker seeking a free shower.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: RWilhelm
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 12:01 AM

Is there a website I can go to for a summary of all this?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 12:18 AM

If anyone has a problem with making a contribution, feel free to not do so...

But I am comfortable sending my money. And enough others on here know me that I can be held accountable for the money that others forward through me.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: emjay
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 01:00 AM

I sent my $25, it seems a small amount to make a contribution to something as interesting as this project. Later I hope to have an opportunity to buy the cds.
And I have a seriously limited income but I am not poor, just generally cheap.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 03:24 AM

Earl, go to my website http://www.folk4all.net and on the front page, in the NEWS section under the picture, the first item is about this. Click on the link and all will be revealed.

emjay, got it - thanks!

George

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 07:09 AM

BTW, Dick Greenhaus at Camsco Records has Song Links I, 2 CDs for $25 plus S&H. When I e-mailed him the other day he said he was on the way to the Getaway with his record supply.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 10:54 AM

Earl, you can also check out Martyn's website (then click on the "Song Links" link).

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 12:12 PM

Donations to Martyn - to sponsor more songs about sheep?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: treewind
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 12:56 PM

There are plenty of scams (and plenty of gullible people) but this is not one of them. GUEST, go back to sleep.

Anahata

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: RWilhelm
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 03:42 PM

Thanks El Greko and Yorkshire Yankee. I just made my donation.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 09:13 PM

Way cool, Earl... thank you!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 17 Oct 04 - 09:21 AM

R

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Oct 04 - 09:28 AM

yah, US Mudcatters!!

I'm looking forward to the new UK/US Songlinks - the UK/Oz one is great to listen to & read the notes.

sandra

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 18 Oct 04 - 06:57 AM

Just got back from the Getaway, Earl - got it - thanks!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 10:43 PM

Refresh

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 08:52 AM

CRAP! I *KNEW* there was something I forgot to do this weekend!!!!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 03:19 PM

It's not too late, MMario! If PayPal is not an option for you, you can still send a check to beardedbruce – or to me. (PM me for my address if that's what you want to do.)

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: MMario
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 04:37 PM

screwup corrected!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: Teresa
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 04:40 PM

Thanks to all the refreshers. :) This project sound wonderful. I adore the music, and Martin and jean.

[scurrying over to make my PayPal donation]
Teresa

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:49 PM

Cheers, Teresa – that's brilliant!

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:15 PM

Reminds me of a previous thread....that became dust ...it soliciting advances on a memoire "The Wyoming Wind."

Sometimes the littel dust devil swirls for nearly an hour...other times it is here and gone...almost before recognition. Where else on the net - is the little-gypsy-brass-ringed- tamoborine being passed?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 03:03 AM

Cheers, Gargle - every little push helps

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 10:56 PM

Refresh (until I get to where my checkbook is!)

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 11:43 PM

Well, no checks from the Getaway- I guess everyone found Paypal. But Carly and I will be sending in something, as soon as I get a shift off...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 09:20 PM

Even if there were no checks from the Getaway, it was good of you to offer to coordinate – it helps to be able to offer more than one option. Your support is much appreciated...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 12:02 PM

Had the pleasure of seeing El Greko perform yesterday afternoon – and have asked him to check & let us know how close to/far from our target we are thus far...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 01:17 PM

$125 to date towards the $550 needed...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 01:34 PM

I totally forgot about this at the Getaway. But have donated through Paypal. Let us know what track we are sponsoring, George.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 05:17 PM

$125 to date towards the $550 needed...

Thanks, El G. Adding in checks I'm told will be arriving soon, that takes it to about halfway – to $250-$275(ish)...

We definitely need a few more contributors if we're going to make this fly.

My guess is that there are a lot of US Mudcatters who haven't checked out this thread yet; I also suspect that this thread is not all that likely to attract many more new readers. However, I hesitate to start yet another thread in hopes that a better title might catch the eye of a few more folks. I suppose I should have asked those of you on this thread who were going to be at the Getaway to mention it there, but it's a bit late now. So... any suggestions, anyone?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 05:23 PM

Did Carly pick up anything at the Getaway? Maybe we have it.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:39 PM

How about a message to Max asking for a top-of-the-page headline like the Mudcat CDs had when they first came out?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 08:01 PM

Did Carly pick up anything at the Getaway?

Don't think so... (see beardedbruce's post, above)

artbrooks, I like that idea... do you think Max would be willing to do it? I've only been on Mudcat about a year now (which isn't that long, IMO), and am not sure if it would be considered a "legitimate" Mudcat cause. I mean, the Mudcat CDs raise money for Mudcat, but this doesn't...

If I do decide to ask, is the best thing to do to pm Max directly, or Joe Offer, or someone else?

Thanks...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 10:28 PM

There is nothing wrong with PMing Max, but Joe seems to be more involved in the day-to-day running of Mudcat sometimes.

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: emjay
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 01:45 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 03:19 PM

$155...

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: MMario
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 03:30 PM

Would it help if a joe-clone changed the title of the thread to something like 'Mudcat effort to Sponsor Song Links Track'?

Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 05:05 PM

Yes please, MMario

title edited by request of El Greko and Yorkshire Yankee - joeclone

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 12:32 AM

Great idea, MMario. And many thanks to the joeclone...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: MMario
Date: 28 Oct 04 - 09:49 AM

it is a little sad, isn't it that things like this seem to take such effort?

I was at a charity event the other night - they pointed out that drinks at the bar averaged $3 - and if everyone at the event skipped *ONE* drink and donated that $3 - it would result in over $500 for the charity.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: artbrooks
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 07:34 AM

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Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: Janie
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 01:52 PM

Just added to the kitty through George's site.

Janie:.)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: GUEST,cookieless KathWestra at work
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 05:07 PM

I doubt that anyone's inclined to believe our resident naysayer Garg or our a-nonny-mouse Guest, but just in case you have questions this is absolutely on the up-and-up. SongLinks II is a fabulous two-CD set that is being produced as a labor of love by my dear friend Martyn and his wife Danni Wyndham-Read, two of the most honest and best people you'll ever hope to meet. Martyn has a long catalog of solo recordings to his credit, made over decades of work. He has numerous collaborative CDs. And now he is undertaking Volume II of the SongLinks project. SongLinks I is one of the best-conceived and executed projects I've ever seen, with a set of liner notes (a book, really) to die for. A Mudcat-sponsored track of our own Jean Ritchie (KyTrad)on SongLinks II would be just perfect. Count me absolutely in. If I could sponsor a whole track by myself, I would, but bb's idea to have many hands make light work of the fundraising is a great one. Thanks, one and all, but especially to those who've organized a way to collect the $$.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 11:49 PM

refresh...

And many thanks to artbrooks for keeping an eye on the thread – & refreshing it when I hadn't got 'round to it yet; to Janie & Kath for their financial contributions; and to Kath for the additional information and support in the post above.

Cheers! We'll get there yet...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 01 Nov 04 - 10:04 PM

Well, by my calculations, I think we're up to about $325-ish...

I've had a thought – would like to know what you others think of it:

If there are other Mudcatters you know well – and think might be interested in helping support Songlinks II but perhaps haven't spotted this thread yet – maybe each of us could PM another Mudcatter or two and suggest they check out this thread (but ONLY IF you know them well enough to know they wouldn't mind...). The rest would be up to them...

Or would that be a tad overzealous?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: karen k
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 03:34 AM

Yorkshire Yankee,
Can I send you a check? I don't do Pay Pal and would love to be included. I don't think there was any mention of it at the Getaway. Read this thread before going and then forgot about it.

Is SongLinksI still available? Guess I'll go check out Martyn's website.

karen

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 03:42 AM

By the way, I reserved Jean Richie's "Mayday Carol" for us to sponsor.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 08:04 AM

Karen K – absoloutely! I'll PM you the address.

El Greko – sounds ideal. Thank you.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: MMario
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 11:23 AM

El Greko - That's Marvelous! I suspect it may take us a while but that we will get to the required amount soon-ish.

meanwhile - I am going to place a link on the Getaway Memories thread...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 12:22 PM

Ooooh, MMario, what a Memor(abl)y wonderful idea! 'Ta muchly!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 12:49 PM

I could put a link to this thread up in the yellow box at the top of the Forum Menu, but I'm reluctant to. That space is for more-or-less permanent messages, not set up for easy editing or removal - and it's for things that are necessary to the operation of Mudcat. While I think the Songlines project is a very good cause, I don't think it's quite at the level of importance of the Mudcat CD's, and I think it's more temporary in nature. Let's hold off for now, since the thread seems to be continuing on its own.
But as a guilt offering for saying "no," I'll send a check to Beardedbruce.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 02:56 PM

That's OK Joe, I do understand.... I had a feeling that it wouldn't really be appropriate to mess about with Mudcat's Headers for this – but I do appreciate the thought (and the contribution!).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: GUEST,open mike
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 03:26 PM

as quoted from above:
Subject: RE: A (sort of) challenge to US folkies
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 Oct 04 - 07:09 AM

BTW, Dick Greenhaus at Camsco Records has Song Links I, 2 CDs for $25 plus S&H. When I e-mailed him the other day he said he was on the way to the Getaway with his record supply.

here is the contact info: Dick Greenhaus at CAMSCO
http://www.camsco.com/   e-mail: ([e-mail] )
"If it's Folk, we'll get it for you.": Camsco Music,
28 Powell St., Greenwich, CT 06831, 800-548-Folk. ...

the new thread title is more accurate, and enticing, thanks!

and Wind Words form Wyoming is a successful project...
and sociciting advanced pre-payment is a good lway to
jump start a project, and generate interest and support.
(I have my copy and am glad i do!!)

and by the way, pay pal is not restricted to credit cards..
you can use a bank account, in fact there is an advantage
to setting up your pay pal account thru a checking acc't
rather than a credit card.

how much, by the way is the cost of the c.d. for those
who donate to sponsor a track? seems like it it will take
a dozen ofr two folks to make up the track amouont of 300-
500 $ , then if each person gets a substantial discout
(at cost? is that like $3-5?) that may not be the way the
deal was intended to go...seems like the original plan may
have been to offer ONE person a discount if they pitch in
for one track??

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: Carly
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 03:58 PM

No, I didn't get any checks at the Getaway. I should have made some announcement...... hindsight is a wonderful thing. But I am contributing along with Beardedbruce; I think this is a project well worth supporting.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 02 Nov 04 - 06:43 PM

Hi open mike,

What it says on their website is: "You also have the opportunity to buy the CD at trade price". It's not clear whether they meant just one CD or a bunch, but given that most of the Song Links I sponsors were organizations, it seems unlikely they meant just one CD. I believe that George did check with Martyn & Danni on this, and that they did say that Mudcat contributors could buy the CD at the trade price. Note: trade price is not "at cost" – it's the wholesale, direct-from-the-record-company price, which they do make some money on. So it's like Mudcat becomes another "distributor" for them to sell the CD – which should be a win-win situation.

A thought has just occurred to me: perhaps we could see if they would be willing to get all the performers (or as many as is actually possible) to autograph a CD, which could then be put in the Mudcat auction...

If people like that idea, I'll ask them about it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 03 Nov 04 - 07:45 PM

– R –

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: MMario
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 10:58 AM

pop to top.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 11:16 AM

Good news, folks – we're getting close!

El Greko tells me he's had 7 contributors and a total of $180.

I've had 5 contributors (a couple of them unusually generous) with a total of $300 (and there may or may not be another check still to come).

That takes us up to $480... spitting distance, folks!

As El Greko puts it: "...we are only 3 contributors short...(assuming $25 each)"

Unfortunately, the dollar seems to be moving down pretty quickly at the moment, so I'm hoping we can wind this up before the amount we need to raise goes up substantially!

Many thanks to everyone who has contributed thus far, and special thanks to those who have been particularly helpful and supportive – you know who you are.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: MMario
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 12:02 PM

smaller amounts welcome I assume?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 12:24 PM

Absolutely, MMario! As the saying goes, "Every little...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: Janie
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 11:13 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 01:08 PM

I'm in - I'll get a UK cheque sent off today.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 03:10 PM

That's very good of you Jacqui – especially as your fellow Brits have already been so generous in sponsoring the British tracks! Then again, you do have a particularly strong US "connection"... ;>)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: GUEST,cookieless KathWestra at work
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 12:30 PM

Hey YY, please PM me with a postal address for me to send my check. My mind's like swiss cheese these days, and I totally forgot to follow through. I'm in for $50. Can we "lock in" Jean Ritchie's track???? I'll be able to pick up your PM when I get home tonight, and will send the money right away. Thanks for your coordinating role!
Kathy

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 01:00 PM

Hi Kath... done! In a way, this is unexpectedly good news – as I assumed you had already contributed (via El Greko's PayPal link).

This takes us up to $530... don't know what Jacqui's sending, but I suspect it will take us up to our goal – and possibly even over...

SO – I think we've made it, folks!

Should we ask a joeclone to change our title to something triumphant? Or perhaps that should wait until all the checks have actually reached their destination(s). When we've received everything, I'll post here again, with an official list of contributing Mudcatters.

By the way, am looking for feedback concerning the idea (above, 2 Nov 04) of auctioning off a Song Links II with artists' signatures & donating the proceeds to Mudcat – if folks don't think there would be much interest, I'll leave it...

Again, MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO'S HELPED!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: treewind
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 01:18 PM

Well done everybody - an effort to be proud of and a fine example of the power of the internet generally and Mudcat specifically.

I'll be very happy to sign a special Mudcat copy of the CD, and I'm sure Mary will too.

When organizations like folk clubs sponsor a Song Links Track, one of the perks is being able to buy copies of the album at trade price. Will somebody representing Mudcat be able to do that? I'd guess Dick Greenhaus gets trade prices anyway, so I don't know if there's scope for further benefit.

Anahata

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 01:36 PM

Jean Richie's track is locked in - no worries.

The simplest way for Mudcatters to get copies would be for Dick Greenhaus to get them at trade prices and pass on the benefit (plus p&p). Would he be willing to do that? I will ask him

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 01:44 PM

There will be logistical problems with getting autographs on a CD. I am sure that most of the artists would be delighted to do this, but all the tracks were recorded independently and in two countries.
The UK launch would get most of the UK artists together, so we could get our end of the CD signed then. I don't think there is a US launch where the US artists are gathering, so that is a rather tricky problem for someone to come up with a solution to!
Mary

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 11 Nov 04 - 08:00 PM

Well – if folks like the idea of a signed CD to auction – one way to deal with it would be to send one of the CDs (or CD leaflets) around to all the US performers, along with a list of addresses to send it on to – a bit like a chain letter (only not with the ever-expanding pyramid-type aspect). People could cross their names off as they sign it & send it along to one of the names still on the list. Since the CDs don't come out until April or so, there should be more than enought time to accomplish this.

Aside from El Greko, still haven't really heard from people who are not on the CD... any other feedback?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 07:00 PM

What an honor that Mudcatters are sponsoring one of my tracks... I found this thread only recently, and have been tuning in every day or so,to see if it's really happening. Now if I could only sing! (my '03 flu shot has worn off and I'm slowly recuperating from a bout of the flu, with lots of coughing, teary eyes and scratchy voice). I promise to try in about a week. Maybe a good cause for Mudcat to take up (after this one) would be to find a source for flu-shots for aging folksingers?

Anyway- thanks so much to all of you. Actually you could have had a choice, as I'm doing two tracks- May Day Carol and The Cuckoo.

Joy and blessings,   Jean

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 09:07 PM

Congratulations to Vikki and all the US Mudcatters who contributed, and a speedy recovery to Jean - not only so she can record her contribution soon. Having the flu is nasty!

I'm looking forward to Song Links II coming out.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: GUEST,jacqui.c
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:52 AM

I think that a signed copy on the Mudcat auction site would do very well. I would certainly be in the bidding for it.

Vikki - the cheque was sent by my daughter in Newark a couple of days agao - have you had it yet?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:11 AM

The Cuckoo was already "spoken for", Jean; anyway, there is a sort of link in sponsoring the Mayday Carol, as the UK version is recorded by two other Catters (Mary Humphries & Anahata, aka treewind); and I'm sponsoring that one! So both versions of the Mayday Carol will involve, and be sponsored by, Mudcatters!

And it starts with the letter M (talk about tenuous links!)

Dick Greenhaus has kindly agreed to procure copies of SLII at trade prices and pass the saving on to Mudcatters (+p&p).

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:36 AM

Just spoke with Dani W-R. She thinks that it should be possible to get a copy of SLII signed by all artists, but after the launch in April (in fact they might do 2 or 3 copies anyway, it was a good idea).

Also: Dani & Martyn are OK with Mudcatters procuring copies of SLI at trade prices, also through Dick Greehaus. I will now put Dick in touch with Fellside Records, so that arrangements can be put in place. No doubt Dick will later let us all know how to go about ordering SLI and SLII through him, what the cost will be etc.

BUT NOW, AN IMPORTANT ITEM: The dedication - in the booklet accompanying the album there will be a couple of lines from the sponsor of each of the tracks. Not enough space to include individual names, as we'd said, but some appropriate words should be agreed between us. I suggest the following, and please offer your comments back:

"It is an honour and a pleasure for the American members of the Mudcat Cafe, itself an international folk music forum, to sponsor the Mayday Carol sung by Jean Ritchie, one of the prime exponents of traditional song in the US."

Good enough? Shoot!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: GUEST,jacqui.c
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:47 AM

Sounds good to me George.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 08:02 AM

exponents? Jean herself is wonderful. Jean to the 3rd power is too awesome to contemplate. Yes, yes, I know that the word use is correct.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: MMario
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 09:05 AM

Sounds fine to me...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: KathWestra
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 04:15 PM

El Greko,
Editing by committee is a most dangerous enterprise, but I'd suggest two things (if we can squeeze them in). One is to include the URL of Mudcat for those who want to find it. A second is to say that Jean is, herself, one of Mudcat's members. Just a suggestion, for what it's worth.
THANKS!
Kathy (an editor in real life who just can't stop...)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 05:03 PM

Both very good ideas, Kathy...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 05:21 PM

In Martyn's first letter, he wrote that this project, even before any sponsorship, is always short of funds, and that its "staff" are knowingly taking a risk.

Could Mudcat therefore auction a second autographed CD, with the proceeds going to Song Links? Or is this a bad idea? (Gee, I hope my
grammer, spelling and sentence structure are all correct, Kathy!)
Now this is a hard one: should there be a period after )?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: treewind
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:22 PM

If the Song Links 2 UK launch party is anything like the first Song Links launch, we'll all be autographing lots of copies at the end of the concert, for folks who've bought them.

So how many are we going to do for Mudcat? We might as well do a whole batch while we're at it!

Anahata

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 10:40 PM

Sorry not to have checked in on this thread for the last couple of days – been too busy to spare any time for Mudcat 'til tonight.

Jacqui – apologies for not letting you know your cheque arrived a couple of days ago – meant to PM you, but... (please see above)

El G, thanks for talking to Martyn & Dani, and for coming up with such an elegant dedication (who'd a thunk he'd be so good with words? ;>) ); I also like Kath's suggestions.

Jean – we're honored to sponsor you! Like your idea of a second signed CD to be auctioned off with proceeds to Song Links – I guess it remains to be seen if the Mudcat powers-that-be approve...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 10:59 PM

.....or it could be auctioned with, say, 25% going to Mudcat and 75% to Song Links. Or whatever percentage agreed upon by Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 12:59 PM

A few days ago, someone PMed me to ask if it's "too late to contribute". It's just occurred to me that it might be a good idea to share my response here as well...

No, it's not too late to contribute. Even though we have reached our goal, Song Links can certainly make very good use of any additional money we can raise (there are still at least a dozen un-sponsored American tracks!), so I see no reason why you shouldn't send whatever you wish to send, and your name will be included with everyone else's when I post the list of names of those who have contributed.

This also might be a good time to remind everyone of my original intent in starting this thread: if you can think of a US folk club/venue/organization that might be willing & able to sponsor a track, please mention it to them. (If you're not comfortable doing it yourself, let me know and I'll contact them myself.)

While I don't wish to be a wet blanket – I'm pleased and proud of our Mudcat response – I'm can't help being a little disappointed with the general lack of US support for this project. Last I heard, there are only THREE US sponsors (including us)! When you think of how large our country is – especially compared to Britain – it's a bit sad that SO little support has come from the US.

I'm about out of ideas on how to get the word out to potentially sympathetic ears, but if anything occurs to anyone else, please do let me know!

And I hope those who have contributed feel very good about what we've managed to accomplish here.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Effort to Sponsor SongLinks II track
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 10 Dec 04 - 10:03 PM

OK, folks – all the checks (and a cheque as well!) are finally in, and cheques have been sent to the Wyndham-Reads,
so here's the grand total raised:

$607 – which is £315 (by my calculations, using today's exchange rate, & ignoring loose change)

So (drum roll please!)...
Here is the Mudcat-SongLinks II Roll of Hono(u)r:

Art Brooks
beardedbruce
Carly
Desert Dancer
Earl
El Greko*
emjay
jacqui.c
Janie
Joe Offer
karen k
KathWestra
MMario
SINSULL
Teresa
YorkshireYankee

*El G belongs on this list not only for all his support & assistance in facilitating PayPal contributions, but also due to sponsoring an English track all on his own!

Anyone else interested in joining such fine company can still do so – just visit El Greko's PayPal link, or PM me for an address to send a check to, and you, too, can see your own moniker appended to this glorious list!

Again, MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED! Martyn & Danni are delighted by this show of support.

Subject: RE: Mudcatters Sponsor SongLinks II track !!
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 01:08 AM

Here is an excerpt of a message I received from Martyn Wyndham-Read today:

"If you could please pass on, my and Dan's, warmest thanks to all the Jolly Mudcaters who contributed so much for Jean Ritchie's track, it is so very much appreciated... I am glad to be able to tell you that now we have all tracks taken up..."

So... something to feel good about!

Subject: RE: Mudcatters Sponsor SongLinks II track !!
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 07:14 AM

hooray - congratulations to everyone, I eagerly await the finished product.

sandra

Subject: RE: Mudcatters Sponsor SongLinks II track !!
From: KathWestra
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 07:16 AM

Great news from Martyn! If the money's all in, can the release be far behind? Yippee--and thanks again Vikki and ElG for pulling us all together behind the Mudcat sponsorship of one of Jean's tracks.
Vikki or Jean, can you keep us posted, either here or in a new thread, on a release date? Happy holidays, everyone! Kathy

Subject: RE: Mudcatters Sponsor SongLinks II track !!
From: treewind
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 12:05 PM

It's due for release on April 17, 2005 see Website and follow the links under "Song Links". Launch concert Cecil Sharp House, London, UK.

Anahata

Subject: RE: Mudcatters Sponsor SongLinks II track !!
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 10:15 PM

Thanks, Anahata!