Little known '60s Folk Singers

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,shane
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:15 PM

looking for a song from late 60's,early 70's about a man's rope factory burning to ground ,only being able to save 400 ft. of rope [hemp],leaves home with rope and sets sail on titanic where he turns on the captain to pot.   song is very funny ,quite long, i thought it might be arlo, but can't find .please what is this song

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:27 PM

"Legend of the USS Titanic"

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:51 PM

Well, I can see I've neglected this thread because I didn't follow the more 'pop' groups much back then; but sure the list needs to mention
Joanie O'Bryant who made a couple of 10" LPs for Folkways in the late 50s. I met her at Wichita Univ. in about 1963.

"Joan O'Bryant was born in Wichita, Kansas in 1923. She attended Wichita University, where she graduated with of Masters of Arts in Creative Writing in 1949. After graduation she worked on plans for a folklore studies class. Soon after she was teaching folklore studies classes at the university, as well as in Pittsburg, Kansas and Gunnison, Colorado, during the summers. Joan O'Bryant was also an accomplished singer and guitar player and released two records of authentic folk music on Folkways Records in the late 1950s. O'Bryant was killed in an automobile accident near Ouray, Colorado in 1964."

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 12:48 PM

Guest, Shane--that link has the song you were askin' about.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,guest- mary
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 09:03 PM

i'm looking for a song sang by roy book binder- something about 3 times 7 and then he ends up at 3 x 21 is 63- it's all about his age and getting older. great song i grew up with but can't for the life of me remember the name of the song.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Mark Ross
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 10:46 PM

3X7 is a song by Merle Travis.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Stefan Wirz
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 03:56 AM

3x7 (Merle Travis) is on Roy's 1977 album 'Ragtime Millionaire' on Blue Goose 2023 (when he still was Roy Bookbinder and not Book Binder). To my knowlege this album has never been released as CD, nor has he recorded that song elsewhere (see my RBB discography at http://www.wirz.de/music/bookbdsc.htm

Stefan

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Stefan Wirz
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:00 AM

have to correct my post above: There's a CD reissue of that album on the Japanese Air Mail Recordíngs label !!!
Stefan

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Colin Randall
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 05:02 AM

That's a great annual list from B K Lick, which I saw only today on noticing this thread back near the top (perhaps it should be at the top permanently).

Three things:

* I love the appearance in the list of Bishop Auckland as an artist (hymns his speciality?) instead of the Co Durham town where someone from the list has played. Marie Little and Barry Skinner did for sure, and I could add more. They'd include not Noel Murphy, who sang & joked there but is too well known to qualify (though Ewan MacColl is somehow listed too) but Shaggis, a wonderful musician who used to tour with him but went on to play for Elton John; I am sure the web would fill in details but not while I'm typing!

* I have mentioned this in a much shorter threat, but it was while browsing here that I had the thought of making contact with and interviewing
Marie Little for Salut! Live    So thanks again - it was a delight to get back in touch with her, albeit electronically....

* And if the Mudcat subscriber who confirmed that Barry Skinner is alive and well has contact with him, I would love to interview him too, even though he was never as pretty as Marie. A private message at Mudcat or an e-mail to [e-mail] would do the trick

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 05:23 PM

i wrote about the roy book binder song the other day 3x7. thanks for all the help. one more question... does anyone know where i can kind the lyrics and the chords for that?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 05:37 PM

Guest,Mary: I cannot find lyrics anywhere. Sorry.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 31 Mar 08 - 08:23 PM

Penny Lang at The Green Room w/ Bill Garrett, Roma Baran, & Jason Lang...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykty22p1o6c
bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: C. Ham
Date: 31 Mar 08 - 09:41 PM

Hey Bob,

The Penny Lang video is kinda weird in that the sound and the pictures are out of sync.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Lady Constance
Date: 31 Mar 08 - 10:26 PM

Barry Skinner - used to know him quite well. If anyone is in contact, I'm at [e-mail] - would be good to get in touch.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 12:11 PM

C.Ham: That happens on YouTube quite often. Hope you got past the technical difficulties and enjoyed the MUSIC...Not much I can do about it.
bob

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 05:55 PM

Any one know where I can get a copy of Vernon Haddock's album?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 05:04 PM

Just a point:    There was life before the Sixties.

Pre-dating the 60s by a fair chunk, one of the first folk singers I was aware of was Burl Ives, whom I think I first heard on the radio in the mid-1940s.. I recall a program about the history of the Erie Canal, on which Burl Ives told stories and sang songs about it. He started appearing in movies back then, "Smoky" (1946), "Green Grass of Wyoming" (1948), and "So Dear to My Heart" (also 1948) in which he played characters very much like himself. This was well before his really serious acting days in movies like "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" ("Big Daddy") and his slide into cutesy songs like "Little Bitty Tear," and "Little White Duck."

And even before this, around 1940 or '41 (when I was somewhere between rug-rat and puberty), I recall hearing folk songs on a radio program called "The American School of the Air," and learned later that it was Alan Lomax who was doing the program.

I also recall hearing Richard Dyer-Bennet in the late 1940s. A friend of mine had an album of his records (12" 78s). Several ballads, including "The Three Ravens."

On the feminine side and more-or-less contemporary with Burl Ives and Richard Dyer-Bennet was Susan Reed. I don't recall where I first heard her, but it was probably on the radio, so I knew who she was when she manifested herself in a 1948 movie called "Glamour Girl," about a young mountain girl who sang folk songs, discovered by a New York talent scout and brought to the Big City to sing in a night club. Not a great movie by any means, but lots of good singing by Susan Reed.

For some strange reason, the "folk boom," "folk revival," or "folk scare" (whatever you want to call it) seemed to just pass her by. Too bad! But then, maybe that was her choice. I've always been a bit curious about that.

I was rooting around through google and discovered this:   CLICKY #1.

Also, two records she made way back are now available on CDs.   CLICKY #2 and CLICKY #3.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 05:07 PM

My favorite record when I was a kid was "Burl Ives Sings for Congress"

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 05:35 PM

Don Firth ... You are VERY RIGHT! My very first "learnings" of and about folk music and folksingers were from very much alive people that I was exposed to in the 1940's. To name three; Bill Higley was a live radio singer who's repitoire was based on authentic American folksongs, largely learned from his long time friend "Haywire Mac." And then, in the Seattle area, my family used to go to the "supper clubs" to hear the likes of "Sheriff Tex and his Down Home rangers" and "B.Buck Ritchie." These guys performed live on stage long before the days of early T.V. And of course, to mention yet another, there was also Ivar Haglund, with his friend Jim Stevens, who had a Sunday morning radio show in Seattle titled "Keep Washington Green." CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Liam
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 09:10 PM

Thinking of the Bay Area along with the previously mentioned Don Burnham and Dynamite Annie Johnston, who could not forget Heidi Barton of Heidi's Hotel in Berkeley. Also upstairs was Rick Dougherty later of Limelighter's fame. Another pretty well known folkie was harp playerWill Scarlett who later played with Hot Tuna.
It does take me back, Liam Deyerle

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Lin
Date: 08 Apr 08 - 02:09 AM

Someone posted a message that they had a tape that the British folk duo, BRACKENWOOD made. I cannot seem to find it now. I did send a message to you but not sure if you ever received my message.

Brackenwood were a duo of two guys that I used to see at Bunjies Folk Cellar in London, England in the 70's and 80's. I don't know what became of this duo or if they might still be together.

If the person who posted a message mentioning that you had a recording of theirs please post again. Brackenwood were Jez & Clive (don't know their last names) but they had a weekly gig at Bunjies Folk Celler for many years.

Thank you,
Lin

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Atlanta Leonda Fan
Date: 28 Apr 08 - 04:52 PM

Here in Atlanta, we longingly remember several folk clubs from the sixties: The Bistro, The Catacombs, The Twelfth Gate. But my personal favorite was a wonderful place called The Bottom of the Barrel.
We heard a lot of great performers there: David Bromberg, Odetta, Len Chandler, Jeff Espina, Pat Alger, The Ewing Street Times, Raun MacKinnon, Leonda and others.

Jeff Espina was a regular favorite at the Barrel and had a lot of fans.

Leonda was WONDERFUL! She had the world's greatest smile, and was a terrific blues player & singer. She played the Barrel several times, but never enough.
My thanks to Fiftyford, who said that Leonda's album (Woman in the Sun) had been released on CD. I promptly googled it and ordered a couple of copies. Now I can save my old vinyl copies. Sure wish she would record some more!!

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Severn
Date: 28 Apr 08 - 05:22 PM

Don brought up the names Reed and Ives.

As far as Burl Ives and Susan Reed go, I found radio show transcript LPs intended to be used for broadcast today in a pawn shop for the "The World Of Folk Music" programs put out as a public service by The Social Security Administration with Ives as a host (later replaced by Oscar Brand) and Reed as a guest performer. I started a thread soliciting more background information for these LPs, so if you have any, please post them to the

"The World Of Folk Music Radio Shows LPs"

thread elsewhere on the Mudcat Forum. Thank you.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 28 Apr 08 - 05:40 PM

Don Firth got onto the planet a little bit ahead of me, but I remember, during the late 1940's, hearing Burl Ives, The Weavers and Josh White, among others, on radio broadcasts. Locally, in my part of California's San Joaquin Valley, a lot of the music came from Dust Bowl transplants - John Steinbeck's "Okies" and others, primarily from the mid south and southwest.

A lot of it, even though it came from singers who were "country," or "hillbilly" or "western swing" artists, had roots in folk music of the Appalachians and the rural south. People like Merle Travis were very influential at the time, writing songs which, while not purely "folk," were inspired by their forbears' real life experiences. The best known examples would be songs like "Dark as a Dungeon." The dry, often dark humor, the ironic and often poignant lyrics reflected their own unique approach to "hard times." I did not learn a lot of songs from this genre, but I certainly developed a respect for those who "lived" them, and a sense of what their lives must have been like. In the end, I guess that is what "folk music" is really all about; the process of sharing one's unique reality across generations.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers - LIZ CORRIGAN
From: GUEST,evanDove
Date: 01 May 08 - 06:44 AM

Hi,

Yes, Liz Trevor Corrigan, Liz Corrigan, Elizabeth, Liz Seneff - all the same person. She did do the Guthrie show. died in August 1993. She and I lived together for about 4 years till 1990 - remained friends and she stayed with me her last 4 months upstate for a while and her last month was as St. Vincent's Hospital , New York City. She sang till the end - as long as she had energy. I remember Rabbi Gelberman, coming into the room at the hospital once, (I worked with R. Gelberman at the New Seminary), and she perked up and said. 'let's sing' and we sang a country spiritual I had written - "You Shined Your Light Down on Me".

If anyone wishes to know more about her, please feel free to contact me: [e-mail],

peace

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Joseph de Culver City
Date: 01 May 08 - 11:31 AM

I remember Cyrus Faryar (of The Modern Folk Quartet)here on the west coast (US). Also John McEuen (still making fine music). Barry McGuire was around a while before he joined The Christy Minstrels.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 01 May 08 - 10:23 PM

Cyrus Faryar was in Dave Guard's group (Whiskeyhill Singers) with Liz Seneff (Corrigan) wasn't he? As my old bass player Danny Counts (author of "I keep My Wife in Debasement," "Diesel Dykes on Motorbikes" and other hits) said, "It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it." He also said, "Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver" so I'll shut up now.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Tom Franke
Date: 01 May 08 - 11:28 PM

I can confirm that Danny Cox was performing at the Kansas City Vanguard coffee house as early as 1965. Amazing, talented performer who never quite made it big. I invited him to a performance at a festival in Maryland around 1975. At that time he was living part of the year on a horse farm in Mexico but still performing out of Kansas City.

He could move an audience with the power of his personality, great voice (opera training in Paris, I think) and excellent guitar work.

I think Danny is still playing. A recording of a song under his name is on the Ruckus Music Service. The song is "Bring Our Loved Ones Home," and it sure sounds like the same Danny Cox.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: balladeer
Date: 04 May 08 - 11:11 AM

Memo to BK Lick: Thanks so much for including me in your master list (#524) but please adjust your records to show what my actual name was at that time - Joanne Hindley-Smith. I wouldn't even mention it, but I wouldn't want anyone to confuse me with Myra Hindley, the British serial killer. Fyi, I'm still very much performing in the Toronto area, with my amazing partner in all things musical, Paul Mills. The handle is Joanne Crabtree nowadays.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: balladeer
Date: 04 May 08 - 11:15 AM

PS. I've got two other threads on the go. Titled What Else Can I Do? and Speaking of sixties' folk singers ... they could use some support.
Thank you.
Joanne

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Marc Bromberg
Date: 25 May 08 - 08:04 AM

Does anyone reading this remember a woman whose original name is Nancy Rosenthal, then changed it to Nancy Michaels, then to Molly Malone?
My email is [e-mail].
I would love to contact her.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Di the retired educator
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 02:47 PM

I am trying to find whatever happened to Glenn Yarlborough; I went to three of his concerts in Portland, Oregon when he came to town and have 2 albums...would love to find a CD. Anyone help me? I'm hitting deadends. He was a 60's, 70's artist. Thanks!

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 03:51 PM

Try contacting Folk Era, they have put out some newer Glenn Yarborough recordings. I think you could get them by googling them.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 04:01 PM

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Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,David Jones, Guest.
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 07:59 PM

Think I remember hearing Joanne Hindley Smith singing at The Troubador and other clubs in London in the 1960s.
David Jones

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: olddude
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 10:17 PM

Paul Langille and also Mary Smith from Flint Michigan
and a group that called themselves fried chicken and watermelon
amazing

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 11:11 AM

Two names from the late 1950's and early 1960's sprang to mind yesterday. One, Pete Jacobs, appears on someone's list, above. I saw him in Fresno, CA, at the old Renaissance coffee house in about 1960 when he was doing the west coast circuit. I have often wondered what became of him.

The other, Hadley Batchelder III (yes, III) was a San Diego based singer who made his way to Seattle in about 1962. Years later, I ran into him when he was dean of a local law school. If you ever saw Hadley, you would remember his stentorian vocal renderings.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Clara Listensprechen
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:58 PM

THIS IS FOR SHANE, OF PAGE 1:

Shane, you described a song that talks about a guy whose rope factory (in Mexico) burnt down and who wound up on the USS Titanic with 400 feet of rope (actually 497 and a half feet of rope cuz he "just carries it").

That would be The Legend of the USS Titanic made popular in 1968 by Jaime Brockett.

Actually a story about prize fighter Jack Johnson getting a gig in England and "went over on the boat", and the portion you talk about is the description of the Titanic's first mate.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: voyager
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 02:51 PM

I just received a copy of

Urban Spacemen and Wayfaring Strangers -
'Overlooker Innovators and Eccentric Visionaries of 60's Rock
by Richie Unterberger
Urban Spacemen and Wayfaring Strangers

Chapters on Tim Buckley, Fred Neil, Mimi & Richard Farina and a few other Folk-Rock legends. Lots of name-dropping and related performers.

Cheers
voyager

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,ltl- Atlanta - Bistro and Bottom of the Bar
Date: 30 Jun 08 - 02:08 AM

The Bistro and the Bottom of the Barrel were two clubs (aka 'listening rooms') in Atlanta during the late 60's and early 70's you could go to hear great music. Among the known names were Kingston Trio, Chad Mitchell, Fred Neil, Gabe Kaplan (comedian - Welcome Back Kotter), Carolyn Hester, Towndes Van Zant and John Hartford at the Bistro; Buffy Saint Marie, Odetta, Nina Simone, Len Chandler , Jeff Espina at the Barrel.

Lesser known but some of my favorites - were David Buskin; Jim Dawson (of Good Earth with Bill Swafford who became Oliver); John D.Loudermilk (wrote Tobacco Road); Manchild (from Louisiana - Sam Broussard was a member); Ron Kickasola (who at the time was with Don, Sharon, and Barry Dunaway; and most of all the local favorite - Silverman. Silverman was def. one of those groups that should have 'made it'. Ron Norris was an incredible singer, writer and guitarist, Deborah McColl sang with a voice like an angel, and Karl Cusio played flute - as well being a funny, funny man. It was a sad day for Atlanta when they disbanded. Deborah toured with Jimmy Buffet for a time. I heard that she had recently been singing again in California, after many years hiatus during her career as a psychologist, but don't know anything else about ROn or Karl.

The first time I ever heard Ron, he was playing with "The Hand Band", at the Barrel. Another member was Pat Alger - in the years since, Pat has written a number of top country hits, including performers like Garth Brooks.   

The Bistro held larger crowds, and there were many nights that the line stretched down the sidewalk as people waited to get into a show.       It was a converted house, owned by Tom and Sandy Hayward. They were equal partners in running the club, and equal in their ability to make anyone who came thru the door feel like part of their family.

They gave performers a place to stay, invited them into their homes, fed them,(Sandy was a gourmet cook), helped them meet other people and network.
   Tom built the club's sound system himself, and continually worked to improve it's quality as the technology expanded. He managed booking the entertainment, and always had a good ear for new talent. Scouts from record labels like Columbia frequented the Bistro, knowing the quality of entertainment, and brought their up and coming acts there to be exposed to a discriminating audience.   
    Sandy took care of the customers - she knew the names of all the regulars, and what they liked to eat and drink. Beer and pizza were served, but woe be unto the dummy that talked during a performance - Sandy was quick to tell them to be quiet in no uncertain terms.

It was a wonderful time to hear live music in a small venue in Atlanta. The performers were top notch, the listeners were appreciative and respectful, and the club owners were fervent in their desire to showcase the best music available.

The Barrel was quirkier, and much more like an old style NY style coffeehouse - with beer.   It was located in the bottom of a row of old townhouses, and was damp and cold in the winter;, hot and stuffy as blazes in the summer. In the summer that cold beer was a necessity to deal with the heat in a small crowded room! Neil Estes and ? ?Cohen? were the owners. They loved true folk music passionately, and treated their customers well. Because the Barrel was a smaller venue, and you sat just a few feet from the singers. This made for an incredible sense of involvement with what was going on on stage. It felt like you were sitting in your living room, and you were blown away by their musicianship. I can still see the half smirk on Jeff Espina's face as he sang "Tennessee Stud", and   Len Chandler's eyes   blazing with the intensity of his message.

Both clubs provided an intimacy and a give and take between performer and audience that will never be experienced in a large concert hall.
I am glad that I was able to have that time in my life.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,dan cucich
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 03:58 AM

I remember Jess Espina well.
He was the greatest mimic I have ever seen.
He could credibly pull off songs from all sorts of diverse
idoms.

Buegrass, traditional folk, latin songs (of course)
as well as delta blues, etc. He played a good
blues harp, cross blowing and bending notes,
with the best.

he mimicked Bob Dylan like no other, and
was a natural musician.
I rememebr He played a clarinet one
night at party over on lafayette way, in at the
apartment of a guy named
Marty who had a Vincent motorcycle.

I first met Jeff through Jeannine and Mike Briles
at a party at artist Stefan Thomas's house, that night he introduced me to the open c tuning, which is still onbe of the most effective open tunings there is. He had just retruned from Minnesita where he had spent some time with John Koerner, one of his idols, who also played at the Barrel.

Jeff and I along with Alex Salowich, Ellen McIlwaine, Eleanor (Walden) Hoffman, Ernie Marrs, Bud Foote, Daniel Smith, Buddy Moss, Deeanne Wiggins, Kay Cothrin, Pat Sky, Chip Baker, Brooksie Hunnicutt and many others spent countless nites picking and singin to the wee hours of the morning.

I'll never forget those days on the Peacthree strip from 14th to tenth where anything and everything thing went down.

Funny thing, I dont rememeber Jeff owning a guitar in Atlanta- he always seemed to borrow one when he played at the barrel or Rucilios. He definitely broke in my my old Gibson S-J...

last I heard Jeff was living in the Tampa area where he grew up and working on a shrimp boat. Sadly, I hear his wife, Dickie, the mother of his children passed away just a couple of years ago.

Jeff was not the settling down type, and was totaly wild.
I could go on and on about some of the stuff we got into...

Anybody remember Sandy Rainey, who was a figure model at the Atlanta College of Art with Jeff?

She was one wild woman..

Oh yeah, Barbara Carnes passed away-one heck of a folk singer she was...

Dan Cucich

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 07:11 AM

guest Jay - February tis year!

Just seen ya!

I knew Roger Brooks.

PM me about him.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 08 - 12:46 AM

Howdy;
Anyone ever heard of Sam Cancilla also known as CC Ryder great folk singer. Was also half of a duet known as the talismen?
Terrence1

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Peter Neff
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 10:34 AM

Fun nostalgic site. Yes I saw Sam Cancilla when he was in The Talismen. It was at a hotel lounge on Fort Lauderdale beach. His partner was none other than Michael Smith who wrote 'The Dutchman' and many, many other great songs. Just visited with Mike this past weekend in Chicago where he lives and thrives in music and theater. I asked him about a song they did which I thought Mike had written. A line in the song which pariodied 'Dixie'. It went: 'Way down on the old plantation, we don't speak of integration, look away, look away, look away, Dixieland.' Since Mike is a terrfic writer of satire and comedic songs I thought he had written it. He said he didn't and couldn't rememeber where they'd found that one. We also talked about our old stomping grounds...South Florida coffeehouses: Catacombs, The Pegasus and most notably The Flick. Mike spoke glowingly of Fred Neil, Jeff Espina and Ron Kickasola who I will be seeing this next weekend. Ron lives very happily in North Carolina by the way.
The Flick was a wonderful coffehouse where one could see four acts a night in the early years.. performers like the ones mentioned above and Vince Martin, Steve Goodman, Liz Seneff(Corrigan), Gamble Rodgers, Joni Mitchell, Chuck Mitchell, Gabe Kaplan, Estrella Berosini, John Vandiver, The Ewing Street Times, Dion, Jimmy Buffett, Jerry Jeff Walker and many others that at the moment I can't recall. If anyone is interested, there is a site devoted to the South Florida Folk Music Scene called 'Everybodys Talkin' which you can find at fredneil.com of just click the link below:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/thedolphins

Sorry I went on so long. Great site.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 12:15 PM

Deckman or Don Firth, whoever gets there first:

I remember Ivar Haglund mainly for the giant bowls of steamed clams I used to enjoy in his downtown Seattle restaurant, around 1961 or '62, during the fair. I know he had another, better known location on the waterfront. Was he not the author of the song, "Acres of Clams" as well? If you know, which came first, the restaurant or the song?

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: curmudgeon
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 12:23 PM

Subject: RE: Acres of Clams-WA song-please clarify
From: Bruce O.
Date: 11 Jan 00 - 10:35 PM

The lyrics are in DT as "Old Settler's Song". My understanding was as Sandy's above, and we both remember it was the theme song for a radio program of folk songs sung by Ivar Haglund in Seattle on Sunday mornings in the 1950's. The song was written by Francis Henry, a judge in Washington Territory, some time before it became a state, but I don't know exactly when.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: GUEST,"Boogie" Bruce
Date: 15 Aug 08 - 09:43 PM

I knew Steve Mann quite well. He regularly performed at L.A.'s The Ashgrove and also backed up numerous famous people on recordings. He was off the circuit for many years but now lives in Oakland. Go to www.stevemanngtr.com for information about recent releases and updates about Steve himself. "Alive and Pickin'" includes previously unreleased tracks (including three where he accompanies Janice Joplin)and some from old albums. They just re-released "Live at The Ashgrove" on CD from Bella Roma Records in Berkeley. Check 'em out.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 16 Aug 08 - 12:45 AM

Regarding "Acres of Clams" ... "The Old Settler", Bruce O is quite correct. If you check in on The Pacific Northwest Folklore Society website, you'll hear me singing the version that Ivar taught me. Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: TalkingBird
Date: 16 Aug 08 - 10:47 AM

Randy Burns was a rising star in the 60's, playing regularly at the Gaslight in NY city and releasing albums in 1965, 67, and 69. Hearing his first album, "Of Love and War," in a college dorm room in 1967 is what got me interested in folk music. He disappeared from the radar for a long time, but recently started performing again, sounding better than ever.

Subject: RE: Little known '60s Folk Singers
From: Marcia Stehr
Date: 20 Aug 08 - 02:20 PM

Reading this has been an amazing experience. My family moved within walking distance of Washington Square in 1950. My love of music had begun earlier in my life but those Sundays and then the Hoots and concerts became very important.

Does anybody remember Danny Z. (Daniel Zemachson)?
He was a fiddle player (studied classical violin) in NY in the late '50s-early '60s. He used to play at Alan Block's, the Square and gatherings at people's apts. and lofts. He was a friend of Arnie Feldman.

How about Geno Foreman?
Guitar and banjo player, singer, song writer, artist, and writer. He recorded a 77 in 1958 at Dobell's with Jimmie Mc Gregor and Shirley Bland. Geno played guitar on When You Hear them Cuckcoos Hollerin' on Joan Baez's Fifth Album. He was instrumental in making it possible for Hamza el Din to come to the US and make a record for Vanguard. He was my husband and the father of our daughter, Haydee Foreman.
There is a mudcat thread about Geno: Did you know Gino Foreman?
Sometimes people spelled his name with an "i". Interesting stories about Geno.
Also, you can hear him playing and singing on the movie "Dope". A trailer with him singing can be found at: www.dopethemovie.net.

Here in Santa Fe I reconnected with muscians I knew in NY and Cambridge.

Rolf Cahn became a good friend for many years. He would call me on the phone once a week and we would talk for at least an hour. I treasure those conversations. He called me just a week before he died. I did not know that he was ill but looking back at that last conversation I realize he was saying goodbye. RIP Rolf.

Erik Darling became another friend here. I first met Erik in the early '50s when I was a student at Elizabeth Irwin High School. He had begun painting while living here in Santa Fe and came by my studio to see my work. Later, John Cohen told me he had seen Erik's paintings and that they reminded him of mine. RIP Erik.

I have many memories of those years, Washington Sq., all of the cafes, music venues in NY and later in Cambridge. I worked at Gerde's Folk City in the early '60s and met all of the musicians who played there during those years.

I was so fortunate to be in that place at that time.

Peace,
Marcia