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Little known '60s Folk Singers

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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 12:32 AM

Guest Mary, which Paul McNeill are you in reference to?

Don


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 01:13 AM

Yes, Guest thurg, I am short and stout and thanks a lot for reminding me.

             Mike


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 01:37 AM

Sorry, Mike; I was just trying to determine the likelihood of your actually being a teapot - and I have to say it is starting to seem a distinct possibility. But really there's no shame in that; teapots are very useful items used by thousands if not hundreds of people every day. Stiff upper lip and all that, old boy!


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:19 AM

That's OK, thurg, I have gotten used to the strain of tea pottery. I would prefer a more coffeeeish identity but that is a position that must be urned. There are, however, advantages that all tea potnicks share. Samovar best friends (like Earl "Grey" Scruggs) play brew grass banjo.
I'll just say soolong for now.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:25 AM

"I'll just say soolong for now."

That has got to be the worst pun this year. Good one, Mike.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:44 AM

Mary and Tom are talking about the American Paul McNeill, who would have been playing in the Boston coffeehouses. Met him a few times in the '80s. He did a funny song about cockroaches and had recently (when I'd met him) written an incredibly beautiful song - something about returning home and 'the path to your door'. It probably seems more beautiful because I heard it a couple of times, then never again.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,oldhippie
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 06:24 PM

How about Molly Scott, Oriel Smith, Cynthia Gooding, Carolyn McDade, Julie Felix, Ric Masten.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 06:47 PM

I tried never to miss Gerry Lockran when he played locally. I'm not sure I would describe him as little known. Great picker and singer - and fantastic personality. There is a website you can look his work up on.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 10:51 PM

My dim memory says that we lost Cynthia Gooding a while ago? Bob


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: eddie1
Date: 16 Sep 06 - 07:48 AM

Scotus
You were asking about Len Partridge. He's alive and well and living at the same address in Edinburgh!
Eddie


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Dotty LeMieux
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 07:52 PM

Hi there,

I used to go to the Sword in the Stone too in the 60's and knew a lot of these people. Any one know how to reach Kenny Girard?

Thanks.

Dotty


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 07:58 PM

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:h9HCQgGCLGUJ:www.biznetmall.com/kennyg/index.html+%22Kenny+Girard%22&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: JedMarum
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:04 PM

Jaime Brockett
Norman Schell


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:09 PM

Ahhhh YES! Bonny Dobson. Anyone know of her where-abouts? Bob


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: oldhippie
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:28 PM

Found this at: taco.com/roots/dobsoninterview.html

Interview conducted with Bonnie Dobson, White House Hotel, London England, 4/13/93.

Bonnie Dobson is best know as the author of the song "Morning Dew". Bonnie was born and raised in Toronto Canada where she embarked on a career in music while studying at the University there. She moved to England in 1969 where she now makes her home. Bonnie only performs in public on an occasional basis but still enjoys singing and playing guitar. Bonnie is currently the head administrator for the Philosophy Department at the Berwick College of the University Of London.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: curmudgeon
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 08:48 PM

Guest:Dottie -- I was a regular at the Sword and Stone, and I do have contact info for kenny and Bill Madison amd Paul macNeil and rocky Rockwood and others. Become a Mudcat member and you can PM me for details. Can't put a face to your name, but I might with a little more information -- Tom hall


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Suffet
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 09:53 PM

Greeting:

I used to play the Four Winds in Greenwich Village pretty regularly, the last time being around 1969. Does that make me a little known 1960's folk singer?

At one time some of the basket houses, including the Four Winds, had a "no singing" policy because of some stupid NYC rule requiring any place with singing to have a cabaret license issued by the Police Department. In reality, performers sang there all the time. The house rigged up a buzzer system and had someone act as lookout on the street just outside the front door. His main job was to get people to come in, but he also was there to press a button if he saw a policeman coming. When you heard the buzzer sound, you immediately stopped singing until the lookout stuck his head inside and gave you the all clear. The venue did not need a cabaret license if all it had was "incidental music," which really meant background music. As far as the NYPD was concerned, acoustic guitar or banjo music without singing met the definition.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: elfcape
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:18 AM

So, Jean, what happened to Susan Reed? I remember her from the early 50s when I was a little girl in Philly and she came to some kids' thing at the YWCA in center city and captured my attention with songs.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Ian
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 05:47 AM

In view of the comment All folksingers are little known.
Would it be possible to set up a Thread as a Hall of Fame where anyone can list the names of performers, Non or professional could be displayed and recognised for their contribution to our music.

I have visited numerous clubs/singarounds and heard some fantastic performances also some pretty dire ones but even the worse ones should receive some acolade as it was one such over confident tuneless singer that inspired me to learn and perform songs.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Duke
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 09:34 AM

Anyone remember the Low Down Dirty Shames from Toronto? Jim McCarthy, Carol Robertson, Chick Roberts and Amos Garrett. They were great on their own and as a group, they were fantastic.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Mark Ross
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 10:28 AM

Steve,
Were you there at the 4 Winds in the winter of '67 when the city was cracking down on the basket houses? We came up with the idea of the lip-sync coffehouse(none of us were good enough instrumentalists at the time to be able to get away with a whole set without singing)?

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 10:33 AM

Susan Reed still has an antiques store and lives in Nyack and still sings out, I'm told, with a shape note group, and on her own at times, appeared on Jean's 'None But One' lp as part of the shape note singers on one track

Serrafyn was known (or rather called himself) the Last Minstrel, dressed in minstrelsy garb, played the lute, I believe, recorded one album (which I have) and I believe he died quite young in a car accident.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 04:38 PM

Karen Dalton
The York County Boys
Malka & Yoso
David Rea (sp?)


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Suffet
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 07:46 PM

Mark et al.,

Yes, I must have been at the Four Winds in New York during the winter of 1967. It was one of the few remaining basket houses at the time. Did it later become the Samurai, or were both the Four Winds and the Samurai on the same block? I can't recall. I can't even remember if it was on West 4th or West 3rd, but I do remember that it was just east of Sixth Avenue.

As I said, we would sing at the Four Winds until the lookout warned us to stop.

I was just 20 in 1967, and the big names of the folk revival hit Greenwich Village much earlier in the decade, and many had moved on by then. I first started hanging out in the Village in 1964 when I was 17. Fred Neil was still around, and so was David Cohen (David Blue). Dave Van Ronk was everywhere, of course. Tom Paxton lived over on Morton Street, and he was pretty much a superstar. So was Phil Ochs, who lived on Prince Street, just south of the Village. Janis Fink, not yet Janis Ian, was younger than me, and I first recall hearing her around 1965. I do remember that Peter Tork appeared pretty regularly at the Night Owl Cafe maybe even a couple of years earlier. But the Night Owl was definitely not a basket house. Other people I heard at the Night Owl included Tim Hardin and John Sebastian.

However, those were not the people I hung out with. My "crew" at te time included Peter Greenberg (later a studio guitarist), Adam Kreiswirth (now a bluegrass musician in Florida), Grant Weisbrot (bluegrass mandolinist, moved to New Orleans, died of a heart attack a few years ago), Bob Lusk (Celtic trad musician, now living in Kingston, NY), Bob Malenky (blues guitarist, still in NYC), Peter Debin (guitarist and folk dancer, later moved to Massachusetts and died of a stroke), and Gene Tambour (bluegrass musician, used an elastic bad guitar capo as a pony tail clip, still in NYC).

But Greenwich Village was not the only folk scene in New York City in the 1960s. There were Sis Cunningham and Gordon Friesen who ran Broadside from their apartment on the Upper West Side, and there was also the Interlude Cafe in Kew Gardens, Queens, where Michael Cooney and Pat Sky were among the regulars. More on that some other time.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: oldhippie
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 09:03 PM

Anybody also remember Jacqueline (Steiner) Sharpe (co-writer of "MTA")?


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:09 PM

Steve Mann, you say? Mark Ross? Marc Silber? Yeah, I knew those mugs. Got the goods on 'em too. All sortsa salacious stuff. They're paying me FANTASTIC sums just to keep my mouth shut, but will I...?   --Erik Frandsen,
               Summer Soldier and Sunshine Patriot,
               Emir of Mazhnoonistan, pro tem.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: elfcape
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:36 PM

re Perry Lederman

Here's a moderately decent summary

http://www.elijahwald.com/bluarch.html


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 12:57 AM

I was just across the street at the Minetta Tavern having my very first drink of the new year with Jesus Perez (one of the great percussionists, currently playing at the Cafe Wha?, which is still a going concern here in the heart of quaint old Greenwich Village) when "Bluebird" by Buffalo Springfield came on the satellite radio...I think it was the Dead Hippie Channel...and, of course, as you all know, the banjo player was Charlie Chin. Now that's a blast from the past, ain't it? I first met Charlie at the Four Winds, of blessed memory, in 1963 or 4 when he was playing with the Hunker Hill String Band, the other two members of which were Ted March(bein) and Jay Unger. Ah, those were the days when a cup of coffee cost a dollar and a ride on the subway was fifteen cents...Paul Siebel asking aloud of nobody and everybody: "How will we be able to survive, now that the price of a slice of pizza has gone up to TWENTY-FIVE CENTS??!!
    Some years ago Charlie married a very nice Japanese girl. They live somewhere in the Bay Area. He turned up a little recently narrating a PBS piece on San Francisco's Chinatown. I went to their wedding reception. It was an absolute Scream listening to each of them explaining to the new in-laws why he or she was not a barbarian.
    Does anybody remember Nick Parry-Jones, an Englishman, who played guitar and sang in the mid-sixties? I met him in Flagstaff, Arizona, Memorial Day weekend, 1966, right after I got out of jail. On my way to San Francisco, I was. That's another story...more later.   -EF


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: DonMeixner
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:58 AM

In 1970 I went to a concert at The University Methodist Church in Syracuse, NY and saw Pat Sky and Joanie Mitchell on the same bill. It cost $2.00 for general admission. Across town at the War Memorial was Judy Collins and Arlo Guthrie, It cost $4.50 for the cheap seats.

I don't miss Joanie but I sure do Pat Sky.

I believe that Pat Sky had a guitar player with him named "Blind Erik Flatpick."

Four years later Erik Frandsen played at a coffee house I was helping to run at Auburn Community College in Auburn, NY. I remember him as being a fine guitarist and singer. Notably doing the first rendition of "Arthur McBride" I ever heard. And a song I remember as "Drowning In Beer".

Don


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 02:09 AM

It is astonishing to read a post from someone, claiming to be Erik Frandsen. Everyone knows that Erik Frandsen is a fictitious character invented by Steve Mandel and Bob Yellin as a convenient beard and scapegoat but, as the reporter in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance" said, "When the legend becomes fsct, print the legend." NYC, in the 60's, was a hotbed of urban legends and conspiracy theories. Dave VanRonk, who was once ousted from a Trotskyite splinter group for unorthodox views, suggested, half seriously, that JFK was killed by an impatient Ari Onasis.

                   Mike


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Frandsen
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 02:21 AM

You mean Dave "Snaker" Ray, Dave "Maverick Child" Rae, or Dave "Missing Keys" Ray? -EF


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Suffet
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 07:45 AM

Another greeting:

Let me get back to the "Outer Boroughs" folk scene in New York City during the 1960s. I know there was stuff happening around Brooklyn College. Joe Elias, for example, was active back then, and he still is, as leader of the Joe Elias Ladino Ensemble. There was also stuff happening in the Bronx. That's when NYU still had what it called its Uptown Campus, now the site of Bronx Community College, and there were some coffee houses scattered about. The Uptown Coffee House, still in existence, may have its roots going back to that era, but I'm not sure.

I don't know much about what, if anything, was happening on Staten Island, but I do know there was quite a folk scene flourishing out in Queens. It was centered on a coffee house called the Interlude, which was owned by a fellow namd Max Heilbronner. He had a partner named Dave, but whose last name I don't recall. The Interlude was located in the corner of a row of storefronts just off the Long Island Railroad station plaza in Kew Gardens, Queens. That's the very spot where Kitty Geovese was murdered in 1964, while at least 38 people saw or heard what was happening, but did nothing.

The Kitty Genovese incident inspired the opening stanza of Phil Ochs' Small Circle of Friends: "Look outside the window, there's a woman being grabbed, he's dragged her to the bushes, and now she's being stabbed..." Phil appeared at the Interlude, as did many of the Greenwich Village folkies (Dave Van Ronk, the Holy Modal Rounders, Eric Weissberg & Marshall Brickman, etc.), but the place also had its own collection of locals. Chief among them, for a while, was Michael Cooney. He came from out-of-town, but chose to live in Queens rather than Manhattan. Kitty Genovese had lived in one of the apartments above the row of stores, and Michael Cooney lived in another of those apartments, possibly in the same building.

Another Interlude regular was a singer-songwriter named Al Kuda, who called himself Al Casey for a while but started working under the name Al Cooper when he landed a gig playing organ for Bob Dylan. Kuda/Casey/Cooper later became a member of Blood, Sweat, and Tears. Among the others were Bob Zaidman (blues, ragtime, and country guitarist), John Kalish (banjo picker), Kent Michaels (poet), George Hirsch (blues guitarist). Another was Pat Sky, whenever he was in town, but he divided his time between Queens and the Village. Interlude waitress Lucy Brown appears in a photo on the back cover of one of Pat Sky's LPs.

There were other places in Queens as well, including a coffee house on Metropolitan Avenue in Forest Hills (maybe called the Metropole?) and another for a very short time on 37th Avenue in Jackson Heights, but those were mostly places to play gigs and go home. The Interlude was the place to hang out.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:42 AM

Joe Elias, of golden voice and flowing mustache, lives in the states of semi-retirement and New Jersey. He and Judy live in a lovely developement, wherein dwells another still active survivor from the 60's, Hal Wylie. Hal was, for many years, the lead vocalist for Roger Sprung's Progressive Bluegrassers. Joe and Hal still attend sessions in Philly so, to us, they are as active as ever and we're happy to have them.
Many of our local 60's stars are scattered or gone but I remember them all. Dick Weisman is out west, as is Harry Tufts and Benjy Aaronoff. Jerry Ricks is in Mississippi, Raun McKinnan is in L.A., Michael Kaz is in St.Paul, Saul Broudy is on the road most of the time. The rest of us (Tossi Aaron, George Britton, Jackie Pack, Joe Aaronson et al) stayed close to home and folksang for our suppers all these years. Fame is fleeting, parnessah is permanent.

                               Mike


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:47 AM

One of the loveliest and most talented singers I saw in the late 1960s was Joanne Kelly.She was a brilliant and beautiful blues singer and guitarist and sadly died about 12 years ago.Much missed.I saw her at the Adelpi folk club in Swansea.
ifor


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: DebC
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 11:06 AM

Still wondering about June Bugg whose LP "Hootenany Folk Festival" on Palace Records was the recording that started it all for me.

Any info? I've asked over the years, but no one seems to know...

Deb Cowan


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Suffet
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 11:59 AM

Mike,

Joe Elias and his son Danny just performed at the Eisteddfod Festival of Traditional Music in Jackson Heights, Queens, New York, this past November. Other recent Eisteddfod performers from those old days included Jeff Davis, John Cohen, Heather Wood (last surviving member of the Young Tradition), Andy Cohen, Mike Agranoff, Jerry Epstein, and Alan Friend.

See, Queens still is a center of a vibrant folk scene in New York City, much of it now centered on the Renaissance Charter School in Jackson Heights. In fact, there's a picture of me performing with Pete Seeger in a children's concert at the Renaissance Charter School on my website. Click here; then scroll to bottom of web page.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:15 PM

Being too young to have heard any of the performers in this thread(he he not often I can say that nowadays)
I have two questions.
The first is silly but would there be any cds with groups of these old time greats available and the second even sillier
What is meant by playing house parties and house musician etc
Sorry but in Uk and really dont understand those references.
Lovely thread though keep it going please.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Abby Sale
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:19 PM

Perhaps "Little known" can be defined as whether allmusic.com has any (or more than one line) on the person. Many mentioned above were well-known locally - some as local "favorite sons" for decades. But never left home. Most started that way, I guess. I could easily name a dozen good singers/singer-songwriters well-known on the Florida circuit but unknown outside Florida. Or even outside Orlando.

Mike Miller: I'm pleased you mention Joe Aaronson at last - you didn't earlier. He had a huge effect on "spreading the gospel" in the 60's. I'm glad he continued. You don't mention me, though. That's ok. I wasn't even known downtown - just on campus!

Peace: (et al)
"His rendition of 'Green Green Rocky Road' is the absolute best I ever heard." You mean Chandler? Still alive, I believe. Born 1935. One of the few good things I have to say about _Rise Up Singing_ is that they give proper credit to this song. To Chandler, yes, but he was fairly well-known. Thing is, also to beat poet Bob Kaufman. They actually collected it together from street kids in New Orleans. Len sang it and taught it directly to Van Ronk. That created the East coast bluesy veresion. Chandler went west and taught it to a fine little-known San Francisco singer named Tom something. That created the softer West coast version.

Speaking of San Francisco favorite singers. I've been trying since '59 (you know, the 60's had to get started somewhere - it was in the 50's. Many of them learned from 40's singers. And so on...)
to track down the favorite San Francisco singer. He was actually in the Union and wouldn't take less than scale. The local Guthrie - or Suffet. Any help appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Peace
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 02:27 PM

"His rendition of 'Green Green Rocky Road' is the absolute best I ever heard."

I think would have been Dick Glass that I referred to with that remark, Abby.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Windshield washing wino from the Lower East
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 03:35 PM

You mean Dave "Snaker" Ray, Dave "Maverick Child" Rae, or Dave "Missing Keys" Ray? -EF

The "Maverick Child" guy was David Rea.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Erik Frandsen
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 04:31 PM

Dear Abby: Could your missing San Francisco singer have been Dino Valenti? Very talented cat, great performer, carried around a psychic neon sign that said "Arrest Me" to any cop who say it? Wrote that "...c'mon people, smile on your brother" thing and sold it for $50 bail money? That guy?
   Dear W.W.Wino: sorry 'bout the spelling.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Deckman
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 05:14 PM

Abby ... Dave Spence? Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Windshield washing wino from the Lower East
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 05:36 PM

Yay yay ooby aba do bop


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: pdq
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 07:53 PM

San Francisco's favorite folksinger from the 50s was probably Stan Wilson, who proved that the Hungry i could book folk acts and still sell a drink or two.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 09:11 PM

Once upon a time, there were dozens and dozens of folk clubs in the Phila, area, alone. Every college had its own coffeehouse and its own concert area. Penn had The Little Greenwich, Temple had The Critics and Scholars The Museum School had Dirty Frank's. Coffehouses ringed Rittenhouse Square and every one of them presented Folk. I worked every weekend, so did Billy and Benjy and Saul and Jackie and Tossi and a half dozen others who drifted away from music to persue pelf and security. Some went on the road. Dick Weisman joined The Journeymen, Marshal Freedland joined The Robert DiCourmier Singers, Billy started his Caravan, Saul met Bruce Phillips and Gordon Bok came into his trust fund, bought a boat and God, only, knows what ever happened to him.

               Mike


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: GUEST,Mike Miller
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 09:12 AM

It occurs to me that we have neglected many important 60's folksingers whose area of fame and expertise was esoteric. Ella Jenkins was the last word in children's songs. Her work with rhythem instruments has never been equaled and her recordings can be found in thousands of schools and libraries.
Ruth Rubin was the folk authority in the Jewish music genre as, in a more commercial way, was Martha Schlamme. Their albums were major sellers and they played the most prestigious concert venues.
Every folk festival, in the 60's, featured music from the British Isles and the most popular performers were Norman Kennedy, Louie Killen and Joe Heany.
Popular American eclectic performers included Guy Carawan, Gil Turner, Jo Mapes and the ever lovely Bonnie Dobson (sigh).


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 09:45 AM

My brother in law Eddie Gair, he starred alongside Rab Noakes, the MacCalmans, Matt McGinn at the first Arran Folk festival in 1971.

Ok I know that isn't the 1960's however he was around at that time in folk clubs


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: maeve
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 05:47 PM

Someone up the thread asked about Chris Smither, who is happily married and doing well. Check on his long list of inspired albums to catch up with him:
http://www.chrissmither.com/index.html

Another friend, Gordon Bok, is still crafting elegant and lovely music, singing, carving, and living a happily married life in Maine. Take a look here:
http://gordonbok.com/

maeve


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: Stewie
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 06:18 PM

Alice Stuart, who featured on a fine album on the Arhoolie label back in the early 60s, is still going strong. I bought her 'Can't find no heaven' album recently and was mightily impressed - lovely renditions of 'Turn your money green', 'Wild Bill Jones' and others. She has a website: Alice Stuart.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Little known 1960's Folk Singers
From: maeve
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 06:29 PM

Around 1968 in Durham, NH, my fifth grade teacher would tune the school television to an educational program (a new concept in my minimal tv viewing experience). A thin young man with a guitar sang traditional songs and I think he was on Old Ironsides in Boston Harbor. Who was it? Bill Bunyon has been suggested, but I'd love to have a confirmed identification. That was the best part of fifth grade, and helped launch my own interest in singing the old songs. Anyone else remember?


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