Lyr Req: Jutland

Subject: Lyric req 'Jutland'
From: breezy
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 06:02 PM

and is it trad?

Subject: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: breezy
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 06:05 PM

can anyone tell me anything about this song I heard it sung at folk club in Plymouth I think by a floor singer but couldnt get to them to ask where they got it from.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 06:56 PM

Really John!

Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: breezy
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 07:56 PM

bog off Mick *grn*

well u gotta try!

when you coming down this way again?


Sunday we Have Fleggy, the week after John Waller from topic f.c. , Bradford

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 08:39 PM

See other threads on this Les Sullivan song. Under copyright.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 09:04 PM

btw, for one of the best descriptions of the Battle of Jutland, see the 12th Edition ( 1921) of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica. All ship movements and shell by shell descriptions.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 05:59 AM

John, you know bloody well that Les wrote "Jutland" - I even found a posting from you mentioning it. I can only assume that you've got him booked soon and can't find a suitable thread to hijack in order to advertise it.

Incidently when I sing the song, I just need an aide memoire which reads:

Billy - Queen Mary
Rodney - Invincible
Johnny - The Black Prince

Incidently, is Les still using the mudcat name Frog ? - it doesn't appear to be active anymore - Frogette (as used by his lovely other half, Carys) still seems to be current.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: breezy
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 07:39 AM

How can I hi jack my own thread

Welcome back Dave

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 09:21 AM

I was privileged to sing this fine song in Les's company last year at the Bedworth Mudcat gathering, and what an occasion!

My aide-memoire incidentally reflects my own slight alteration to the verse order - I tend to place Rodney / Invincible third, since it was "defeated" later than the other two ships mentioned. (Les has given his approval to this change by the way....)

Oh Breezy - I do agree with Mick, there must be better ways of advertising Les at your club. Wish I could be there - say hello for me!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: GUEST,Mingulay at work
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 11:38 AM

Should have gone for something more obscure Breezy. Try asking for the words to Letter from Malta or Royal Oak in future!

Makes you wonder if there shouldn't be a Breezy Permathread.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 11:58 AM

Last summer we found out that Gunner Bertie Burrey, a relative of Vanessa's (nee Burrey) had gone down at Jutland - on the Queen Mary.

It makes the song all the more poignant for us, not that it needed it, fine song that it is.

Perhaps this Friday Les can paraphrase his own lyrics and sing for "Bertie" instead of Billy?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 02:01 PM

Well, the whole point of the song is that you can put in a variety of names for the sailor, as long as the ship was at the battle of Jutland in 1916.

It has been pointed out (by someone who had no regard to the folksong tradition) that the moral of the song is, arguably, not to go out with a girl called Nancy.

And yes, of course, Breezy started this thread to advertise Les's appearance, with harmonies from me, at his club in St Albans tomorrow. I'll check with Les Bertie.

Kitty

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: breezy
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 03:49 PM

Well blow me down!

orders for the video will be taken on the night

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jutland
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 04:23 PM

If you want authentic names for all of those three ships mentioned above, I can give you brothers William and John Dunford, their cousin Henry Dunford and George Corben, the father in law of John's sister.

I research my family history and was intrigued by the village war memorial. It seems I'm related by blood or marriage to 4 out of the 16 people commemorated on it. All 4 of these men died in the Battle of Jutland, on board the Fortune, the Queen Mary, the Black Prince and the Invincible.

LTS