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Subject: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Wrinkles
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 07:44 AM

How many of you are Terry Prattchet fans I wonder?

How do you take his occasional digs at folk music?

Which book's your favourite and which character's do you like the most and/or identify with?

Personally I find no malice in his digs at folk music and find them quite hilarious.

Fave book: Small Gods
Fave character: Sam Vimes
Identify with: Angua (yes you may speculate why )

Wrinkles


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Sooz
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 08:22 AM

Any of the books with witches in for me! Love Granny Weatherwax but I'm more of a Magrat myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 08:57 AM

I read about a dozen of his books three or four years ago in rapid succession. They're all a mishmash. I couldn't tell you the title of a damned one of 'em.

My favorite character was The Luggage.

As for poking fun at folk music, if I were a professional writer I'd poke fun at folk music too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Emma B
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 09:23 AM

Pratchett pokes fun at everyone and everything! I went to a talk by him and, when asked if he had received any "hate" mail after Small Gods, he replied that he hadn't but had received sackfuls after writing Lords and Ladies from Tolkein fans who KNEW elves weren't like that at all!
I have no favourite book - I love 'em all!
Favourite character - Death - he's very fond of cats......


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Raedwulf
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 09:42 AM

Yep. From the start (more or less). Me dad brought the first two books home from Westminster Libraries (where he worked). The family promptly devoured them...

No. He takes sly digs at a lot of things. But the way he does it, I think you have to have some understanding & affection for the target. Look at his take on Morris dancing, frex, at the start of Reaper Man. I think he understands. He's not mocking, he's poking fun. There's a world of difference. And anyway, there are enough cliches in folk music for there to be targets for him!

Partly because I was in at the start, Rincewind. Pratchett doesn't actually like having to write him, apparently! Ridcully & Death are not too far behind... Book is a much harder pick. Interesting Times or The Last Continent, possibly.

How about the two questions you didn't ask?

Least favourite book?

Least favourite character?

I'm prepared to forgive him Equal Rites, it was only his third Discworld effort, but I though Monstrous Regiment was pretty poor, especially the ending.

The Witches, I'm afraid. They stopped developing a long time ago, & everything is very, very predictable. They're cardboard cutouts, not characters. Nanny is a mere sidekick, & Granny will always win by (narrow-minded certainty in her own superiority) "per-sy-kology" (or however he spells it). I know Rincewind is The Eternal Coward, but his 'victory' is reliant on other characters, which keeps things interesting. Granny needs no-one except herself & has been getting increasingly boring, IMHO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: el_punkoid_nouveau
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 09:46 AM

The plain truth is that Mr Pratchett speaks the truth - we all perpetrate folk music to some degree! he has met quite a few "folkies" (I hate the term, btw) - some of whom are considerably worse perpetrators than others... he was at a wedding where quite a few of these were gathered. But he doesn't single folk music out for attention more than any other subject!

I'm not sure which is my favourite book - I tend to prefer the later ones though.

As for characters - Nanny Ogg, DEATH, Susan, Granny Weatherwax...


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: *Laura*
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 10:09 AM

I haven't read many - but I LOVE Good Omens (its Neil Gaiman as well) and Death is brilliant. I love him!
I also love the footnotes - 'to americans and other aliens' and all the ones about milton Keynes. heh. heh. heh.
Like you say - it's not offensive, it's just poking fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Flash Company
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 10:26 AM

I have all the Pratchett books except 'A Hatful of Sky' which I will get round to eventually.
I loved 'The Thief of Time' and as a man with a (very short) army career I loved 'Monstrous Regiment'. Aside from all the tranvestite soldiery, so much of the depiction of the 'Military Mind' was spot on.
Least favourite book 'Carpe Jugulam' never really got to grips with that one.
Favourite character Susan, the Gothick Governess

FC


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: The Walrus
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 10:36 AM

As has been pointed out, TP pokrs fun at everyone and everything , with folk music and morris dancing, it's direct, with others it might be a slightly 'back handed' swipe.

Favourite Book?: Night Watch, it's slightly darker than most (I remember I first read the "They're remembering who they're not singing it with" line on 11th November - timing or what?)

Favoutite characters?: Death (very popular, it seems) and Vimes ("Hi, I'm Sam and I'm a cynical bastard!"), oh and Cohen the Barbarian.

Identify with?: I'd like to say Carrot, unfortunately, I'm more like Colon.

Least Favourite Book?: Monsterous Regiment, it seems weak in comparison with the rest of the canon.

Regards

Walrus


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 11:16 AM

I've recently been turned on to the books by a co-worker who's English and a serious fan. I've only gotten through the first 6 books or so (up to Small Gods). :-)

I can't see that his folk music digs are any worse than any other of his digs at the rest of the world. And, I happen to know 3rd hand that he's a Young Tradition fan, so...

I don't know about identifying, but thus far I enjoy Death and Granny Weatherwax (I like her approach to "headology").

There's been one book thus far that I didn't feel compelled to finish: Moving Pictures.

My English friend says getting the humor in the books is highly dependent on the degree of one's anglophilia (for those who aren't natives) -- whether you know anyone who's English, whether you've ever been there, etc. I've only noticed a few jokes I couldn't get; I keep wondering if there's more I'm missing...

~ Becky in Tucson, Arizona


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,MBSLynne
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 01:03 PM

Yep...all brilliant...When I start trying to think of favourite books, I start with "Lords and Ladies" but then there's......and I could go through most of the rest. Though I think the first two or three were a little less brilliant perhaps. He hadn't really got into his stride then.

As for favourite characters....the Witches, Vimes, Ridcully, Death...and again...most of the rest.

Who do I identify with? Well I've often said I'd like to think I was like Granny Weatherwax (who has become one of his most powerful characters in my opinion) but I have the awful feeling that I'm much more like Nanny Ogg!

I don't feel at all offended by his digs at folk and folkies...most of it's true anyway!!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Acme
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 01:06 PM

Moonglow is off at a UIL writing competition this morning or she'd have already responded that her Secret Santee (E_P_N) influenced her interest in Prattchet. I don't know if she'd read him before, but I do know she very carefully read the book she sent, and spent a lot of time laughing over it. When recently asked which book she thought I'd like, she told me that the one she mailed would have been a good one. :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Megan L
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 02:38 PM

I'd love to be someone anarchic like the luggage or the wee free men or even Sam Vimes but i'm probably more of a rincewind.


Who would you introduce to the luggage? :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Cats
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 02:55 PM

I'm defintley Granny Weatherwax... and as for terry digging at folkies... it takes one to know one. A couple of years ago he was seen at Wadebridge, now Cornwall, Folk Festival, in the back bar of one of the pubd joining in with the rest of us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah2
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 03:13 PM

He's a great writer - favourite book is 'Small Gods', least favourite by a long way is 'Monstrous Regiment' - so bad it could have been by a writer who had read his other books but failed to understand what makes all the others so good. Favourite character is definetely Greebo in his human guise - 'No wonder the lady cats scream in the night.'


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Pogo
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 03:21 PM

O_O Yes. I love the books. Every one is my favorite until I read the next one. " The Fifth Elephant " though holds a special place in my heart because it was the one that got me hooked.

My college roomate and I would spend hours reading the books outloud to each other.

My favorite character hands-down is Samuel Vimes because aside from being a character in a fantasy series he has to be one of the most " real " and honest characters I've ever encountered in reading. Though I wonder if we will see anymore of him after " Night Watch " which seemed to be a fitting epilogue for him. Right under him, Rincewind, Carrot, Lady Sybil and Tiffany all vie for second place ;)

My least favorite...oh eh...there's some I'm not so crazy about but I don't outright dislike them. The villians are even likable in a weird way.

The one I'm afraid I most identify with would probably be either Twoflower or Leonard De Quirm.

Even if I don't really get the 'anglish ' humor I laugh anyways {O)


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Jeri
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 05:18 PM

If I didn't like a book that much, I've forgotten it. My favorite book is usually the last one I've read. He does seem to be getting a bit darker and more meaningful with each book, but the meaning sort of sneaks in in such a way that a person could ignore it if they wanted to.

Last one read was Thief of Time. LOVED the martial arts: okidoki, shiitake, upsidazi, no-kandu, tung-pi, and deja-fu. And lines such as: "It's in the darkness where your eyes can't see. The universe becomes two halves, and you live in the half behind the eyes."

I like The Luggage and The Librarian, whose name I can't remember, and
Rincewind, who is a bumbling idiot who's capable of great deeds, which usually happen accidentally while he's Just Muddling Through (like everybody else). Death's pretty cool, but so is the Death of Rats - SQUEAK! - and The Horse...Binky.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 05:28 PM

Fave is "Good Omens" -- this thread reminds me that it's about time to reread it.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: *Laura*
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 06:06 PM

I agree - I LOVE Good Omens - what is it?
'To americans and other aliens - Milton Keynes was built to be a nice, quiet, altogether pleasant place to live. Many Britons find this amusing'
heh. heh. brilliant stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Anne Croucher
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 07:45 PM

I like and re read all the books as I find them - they tend to wander around the house something dreadful.

The funiest one, however, must be Reaper Man - I have to read it when alone but that might just be the death of me one of these years.

I don't really like shopping, and I hate shopping centres. The idea of travelling miles to go to one would just not occur to me. Even large supermarkets make me slightly twitchy, even if they do sell huge ready made trifles.

Anne


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 08:07 PM

A couple of the books were animated - what happened to the rest?

He's my second favourite author - My favourite is Robert Aspirin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Feb 05 - 08:31 PM

I prefer Douglas Adams.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: open mike
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 04:58 AM

HAVING HEARD ABOUT pRATCHETT from this forum,
i plan to read one of his books soon.
Is Wyrd Sisters a good one to starts off with?


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Wrinkles
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 06:36 AM

Hi Open Mike.

As a fan of Prattchet from the get-go I have to say he didn't really get into his stride, or his fantasy world have any internal consistancy, until the 4th book "Mort" which is probably the best book in the Diskworld series to start with.

Wrinkles


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Wrinkles
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 07:56 AM

FT;
Only Wyrd Sisters and Soul Music were animated. Soul music was the better of the two (Christopher [saruman] Lee voiced Death!) but Wyrd Sisters not so good at all. June Whitfield, voicing Nanny Ogg, convinced "Cartoons are for children" toned down Nanny Ogg's lines because she thought Nanny's earthyness was "inappropriate for children": Terry Prattchet was most displeased, which probably explains why no more were made.

IIRC there's a Live Action version of one of the books in the pipeline, but I'd have to check my old 'Ansible's to confirm that, and they're still on an old HD I havn't extracted the files I want to keep from yet.

Emma B:
Yep he did get a lot of hate mail after Lords and ladies, but Tolkien fans were not the main culprets at all! At the time most of the mail came from people who believe they are reincarnations of Elves; I kid thee not! Do a google of "Otherkin" and be prepared to have thy mind boggled. There is some overlap as many of these folk seem to have been informed of elves from Tolkien, and quite a few believe that Tolkien was an Otherkin, not writing fiction, but memories of his life as an Elf. They've lists of fantasy writers who "got it right" and therefore are obviously either Otherkin themselves or "Elfreinds", and non-Otherkin ones who "made it up" and give us humans the "wrong idea" about elves. Lord Dunsany tops the fist list and Prattchet the second. Oddly few are aware of Norse ledgends of Light and Dark Elves or their close folkloric relatives the Irish Sidhe, Tuatha De Dannan; and those that do believe that the Scots Folklore of the Seelie Court predate the Irish and Norse - which are mere corruptions of the Truth as given in Scots folklore.

Pogo:
Vimes turns up as a supporting character after Night Watch in both Monstrous Regiment and in Going Postal.

In Gerneral;
Some books do seem on first reading to either be weak or out of cannon, but they get much better with re-reading; Monstrous Regiment is definitly one of those; it's deep and it takes a while to get it - the hidden comentary on political Spin and the western attitude to Saddam Hussain's Iraq passed me by completly on first reading. I loathed Sourcery when I first read it too, now I do not understand what i found to dislike in it!

I'm kinda surprised that seeing as Mudcatters are Musicians or Fans that Soul Music, his most music dependent book that takes affectionate swipes at working musicians and their life, hasn't been cited as fave
by anyone yet. It introduced Susan too!

Wrinkles


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Jeri
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 08:00 AM

I meant to say this yesterday, but didn't, so will now. I don't think his 'digs' at folk music are different than the ones folkies make. He takes the piss out of Morris dancers, which seems acceptible enough. He also managed make them heroes at the same time.

In a world where "I'm a Lumberjack" is used as a dance tune, somewhere there is probably a side that has combined martial arts with their dancing and now performs Morris katas, with or without staff or sword.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Leadfingers (via the back door)
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 08:08 AM

I would reccomend trying to read then in the order they came out , if only to watch the way the Characters are developing - Lord Vetinari for example , as well as Sam Vimes . As well as seeing the way T P has developed , himself !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Legal Eagle
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 12:09 PM

Leadfingers, agreed. There are lots of backwards references that need to come out in order. Monstrous Regiment is one of my favourites, even the ending: so folk music! I also love Moving Pictures - an iron grip on the Hollywood mentality.

Favourite characters?   CMOT Dibbler, maybe, or even Brutha. How about Mrs Vimes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Layah
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 12:18 PM

I don't think I could pick a favorite character or favorite book. I like the ones about the night watch best...or maybe the ones about death. I think my favorite character would have to be Death, or Vetinari...or Vimes, or Carrot. Yeah, one of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Polly Squeezebox
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 12:34 PM

Terry Pratchett lives in the area of Chippenham in Wiltshire, and so his 'local' morris side is Chippenham Town Morris - need I say more. Lovely chaps all of them - but definitely all 'characters'. He is seen practically yearly at Chippenham Folk Festival - usually incognito, but sometimes there to officially present 'his' special morris award at the 'alternative ritual dance' competition held at the Old Road Tavern. I'd say he is certainly folk friendly (and also friendly to folk!).

Polly


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Fred Maslan
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 12:41 PM

Favorite character, Vimes, Vetinari, Sybil, Leonard, rincewind etc etc etc

Favorite book: small gods, night watch, pyramids, interesting times, maskerade (which I didn't like at all at first). Also "the Bromeliad" not discworld at all.

Least favorite: good omens, couldn't get into it at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 03:34 PM

To those 'in the know'. It should be clear that much of Terry's books evoke 'Filk' songs. One of the better ones being Terror Time in Lancre

I also like Terry's insistence (to the best of memory) "All folk songs start with a long drawn out note, ... to give you time to get away!"

I must join the majority with favorite characters of DEATH & Sam Vimes, however there are bit-part players without whom the whole series would be much poorer. I'm thinking particularly of Mrs (Rosie) Palm, of the guild of seamstresses. She takes such responsibility for her house full of young ladies. Surely a credit to her profession.

CHEERS

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 04:08 PM

Terry Pratchett
Earlier, related thread

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: 42
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 04:46 PM

Carpet People!
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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 05:31 PM

Err, has anyone the full words and tune to Nanny Ogg's favourite song? Pratchett has written that he has been offered many, maany versions, but is there an official one yet.

This is, you will recollect, the Hedgehog song, with the chorus "the Hedgehog can never be buggered at all".


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 05:50 PM

There are songs. Specifically, two written by Heather Wood:
The Hedgehog Can Never be Buggered at All
A Wizard's Staff Has a Knob On the End

Richard, I liked Soul Music, even if it was mainly about Music With Rocks in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 07:02 PM

Hedgehog, wonderful.

Wizard, dead blicky.

That'll be Heather WOod, formerly of the Young Tradition?

I'm still hunting for a cheap second-hand copy of Soul Music - it's not in stock new in WHSmiths in Gravesend.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 08:32 PM

The Wizard is now undead. Yes, she's that Heather Wood. If you go to the first link (click on her name), you can see what she's been up to.

They usually keep most TP books in stock at my local bookstore. Let me know if you get desperate, and I'll see if I can provide you with a copy. Amazon would be faster. I was going to provide a link to Terry Pratchett at amazon.co.uk, but their design doesn't allow for it. Type "Pratchett" into the search box at the top, and you ought to get to the right information.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Pogo
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 08:42 PM

Wrinkles: Hooray!!! I have not read Monstrous Regiment or Going Postal but I'll be sure to check them out.

Incidentally as a counselor at a girl's camp I brought along Guards! Guards! and read part of it outloud to the girls in my bunk. They loved it!!!! I had to...erm...do a bit of editing here and there (it was a church group LOL) but I may have to bring it back next year to continue reading it ^_^


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 03:29 AM

Thank you Jeri.

How wonderful Heather still has that enthusiasm and irreverence. She must be no longer young!

Now I'm going to have to source both tunes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Crystal
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 04:56 AM

I LOVE Prattchets digs at folkies. He truely understands morris dancing!
fave book: Witches Abroard, or Hogfather
Fave Character: The Patrician
I identify with The Luggage. I know how it feels to be that angry!


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 06:29 AM

Good Omens would probably be favourite, but it is not a Terry Pratchett book is it (T. Pratchett AND Neil Gainman).

So, witches abroad as favourite Book, but Vimes & The watch as favourire series (With Mort & Reaper Man second).

Someone said that the Witches are not developing, and Granny is now too predictable. I think that is why we now have Tiffany Aching. She has power, but not experience, so there is more room for development. He couldn't have put her too close to Granny. The country just wouldn't have been big enough for both of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Grab
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 08:17 AM

Pogo: Going Postal is kind of fun, but a bit more on the serious side. Not as dark as Monstrous Regiment though.

Monstrous Regiment is an oddity. Unlike his others, which are comedy with a serious undertone, this is heavily serious with odd comic moments - but the comic moments accentuate the seriousness of the rest of it. It's so utterly different from anything else he's done, I understand why it's not as popular. I didn't really like it myself on the first read-through, but if you re-read it as its own entity (rather than just another fantasy-comedy) then you see it for what it is.

Favourite book: can't pick one, but the shortlist would be Soul Music, The Amazing Maurice, or Only You Can Save Mankind.

Favourite character: shortlist again is probably Sam Vimes or Susan, although it's impossible to keep Death out. ;-)

Identify with: Probably Maurice the cat. Although I can definitely see myself as Johnny or one of his mates. And as a singer, possibly the Prophet Brutha ("Tell me, before these people are put to death, do you sing to them first?" "No!" "Ah, a merciful death then...")

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Charliea at work
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 09:25 AM

Lords and ladies is my fave - sexual Morrisment!


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Wrinkles
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 05:14 PM

Hi Pogo ;-) and all other "reading alouders",

Once, when my adult son was ill and couldn't focus his eyes without getting a headache, and was getting very board with radio and CDs, I began reading aloud a Diskworld book to him. It began a familly tradition and now we always have one on the go!

I love reading them aloud too, both because I've a little skill at accents and voices (I love putting "character" into the Characters) and the "on the fly" editing one has to do to turn jokes that work in written form into something that works verbally! It's really great fun.

I've found that often descriptions of situations in Prattchet, which only raise amusement when read to ones self, become belly shaking howlers when read aloud! I've found myself spluttering through laughter, trying to actually say out loud what's written.

Wrinkles


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 06:14 PM

I'm a long time fan. It's just too bad that the only thing that we yanks get this side of the pond is the books. I have a smidgen of the Night Watch book that's orated (don't know where it came from) and would like to get the others. Only two are available going postal and monstrous regiment at our bookstores.

Favorite book: Soul Music

Least: Fifth Elephant (I'll have to re-read it) Monstrous Regiment to me was great but then being military I probably identified with it too much (I've heard the socks talking I swear it's true).

Favorite character: Ook the Librarian. I've been known to borrow him for my own attempts at fiction (check the Chongo Chimp story about WWII Nazi spies). I think Terry should do a book devoted to Ook finding himself and finding a mate as well.

I also think the Ankh Morpork Fire Dept. is long overdue "Where There's Smoke" would make a good title. I know the last time they tried the firemen turned into pyros to keep their job but now with the expanding economic conditions of Ankh Morpork and the new newspapers there's alot more to burn in town. Just keep the water buckets away from the fool's guild, it's something in the red nose!

As far as making fun of folkies, I'm proud to be the target of his humor!


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Burke
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 09:14 PM

I have not read all the books & remember some imperfectly.

My favorite book is still Small Gods. I'm also fond of Hogfather. I love the library at Unseen Univ.

Favorite characters: Susan, Death, the Librarian

I have Going Postal from the library & am having a hard time getting into it. It seems to have too much of a message going.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: coldjam
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 09:41 PM

I am with the others, my fav is the one I'm reading...fav charactors...sapient pearwood (Luggage), Death, Squeak, the female werewolf whose name eludes me at the moment, Cohen the barbarian...all of them. amd the good part is there are still books of his I haven't read. Life is good!(Elves are bad!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Gurney
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 02:33 AM

Yep, me too. I particularly like the books with the Wee Free Men in them.   Admire Sam Vimes. Know someone like every character in the books.
Pokes fun at folkies? So do I. I am impressed by his knowledge of history and culture.
I'd like to see the stick-and-bucket dance, -from a distance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Terry Prattchet and folkies
From: Torctgyd
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 09:47 AM

Soul Music - TP spent a whole book setting up one joke - Brilliant.


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