Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music

Subject: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Jean
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 11:09 PM

Hi -

I am trying to find a copy of the sheet music for the song "Kilkelly". Does anyone know where I might find it? My friend and I were hoping to perform it together as one last hurrah with our friends before disbanding for grad school, but we can't seem to find anything but the lyrics.

If you can help please post here or reply at [e-mail]

THANK YOU

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Willa
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 07:30 AM

You might be able to use the midi from this thread to help you.
@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3394

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 11:34 AM

E mail sent. I have the sheet music.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Apr 05 - 08:12 PM

Sheet music sent as per e mail request.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 05 - 06:03 PM

Thank you and Thank you!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 17 May 05 - 06:22 PM

I am looking for the sheet music to Kilkelly, could anyone help me out?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 08:20 PM

Could I get the sheet music for Kilkelly Ireland?
                   Natalie Trump

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Clare Morris for Sorcha
From:
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 10:40 AM

Sorcha, would it be possible for you to email me the music for Kilkelly, Ireland ? Thanks

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 02:42 PM

OK, OK....I swear, I'm just gonna leave the scan in the computer.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 02:46 PM

PS...Am I the only person on the planet who has this music? LOL...

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 02:58 PM

Sorcha - we have a midi available out on the mudcat pages - which with a little effort they can produce their own sheet music.

Also the ABC is at this thread and they can cut and paste that to concertina.net to get sheet music.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 02:59 PM

Well, the one to trump bounced. Looks like the other 2 went OK.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 01:32 AM

I'm looking for the sheet music to Kilkelly as well, could someone please oblige? My email is [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 08:56 AM

OK....still in the computer.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 09:00 AM

Sorcha - maybe you *are* the only one with this sheet music....

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 09:45 AM

It is beginning to get rather amusing!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 06:28 PM

If anyone could possibly pass the sheet music on to me I would love to perform Kilkelly for school competition and also perform for my grandmother is very proud of her Irish heritage. Thanks Jackie

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 07:30 PM

I never understood the popularity of this recently composed, overly maudlin song when there are so many truly wonderful and authentic songs of Irish emigrants. See for example all the wonderful numbers in The Irish in America collection by Dan Milner and Bob Conroy.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 10:28 PM

Janice, this song is neither maudlin nor non authentic. I agree with you on Dan Milner's work (he does most of the collecting and reconstruction of the music he plays with Bob. Kilkelly is compelling because it is written from actual letters of Peter Jones Great Grandfather. I would say that makes it very authentic. As to the maudlin piece, once again it accurately describes the times and the troubles faced by Irish Emigrants in the US and the families left behind. I would agree that it is sung to death, and many of the interpretations lack depth. But the song is a jewel.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 11:24 PM

For background on the song, try
Kilkelly
I've had a link to it on my own website (www.jeremiah.ca) for years.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 11:08 AM

I functioned.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 12:07 PM

ICK! God, please let this long dirge go out of style soon!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: John Hernandez
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 07:21 PM

Mick is right that the song is based upon authentic letters, but he is also right that it has been sung to death. "Kilkelly" has become folk music's equivalent of "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling." I agree with Janice that it is overly maudlin, and I also agree with the anonymous guest who calls it a long dirge. Enough already. There are many better songs.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Elaine
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:20 AM

Hi is it possible to get a copy of the sheet music please also? My email is [e-mail]
Thanks
Elaine

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 09:40 AM

I do like this song, but I can't imagine why anyone would need sheet music for it. It is pretty bog basic - no more than four chords.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 10:05 AM

I'll get on it...

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 03:08 PM

Please send me sheet music too!!

[e-mail]

Thank You

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 10:02 AM

Good grief...OK....

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Arne
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 10:52 AM

I agree with Janice that it is overly maudlin, and I also agree with the anonymous guest who calls it a long dirge.

Even hearing it for the 1000th time, it still chokes me up. Maybe a bit of repressed guilt ... we are the diaspora of the diaspora; my sibs are scattered across the U.S. and Canada, and our immediate family is the only one which left the "old country". And I haven't been back there since '84; my knowledge of the words "uncle", "aunt", and even "grandparents" is pretty much vicarious.

And now, as my parents themselves are in their late 70's, every next day they may well be gone, and we see them maybe once a year,

So when I hear the song, I keep saying I'll mend my ways and take more time for family ... and forget these promises promptly until the next time.

Moloney, O'Connell and Keane have one of the definitive versions, of course.

Call it maudlin, if you will, and just wait for the next song ... it'll be along in ten minutes or so. And I'm sure that there's some songs that really touch you that might leave me cold too. NP, there's plenty enough room for all. Overplayed???   Hardly. You want overplayed and maudlin and definitely non-Irish and non-authentic? You'd do better to set your sights on Uncle Shelby's "Unicorn Song" (definitely funny, tho). And go rail against "When Irish Eyes...."

Cheers,

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 12:10 PM

O dear great & powerful Sorcha - yet one more request for a copy of the sheet music! Not for me - it's for a friend. Really.

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 12:28 PM

LOL!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 12:44 AM

This is a great song - inspired and well-crafted. Maudlin it is not. However, any song will drive you nuts if you hear it too often, and in less-than-inspired-and-well-crafted performances.

Bear in mind, however, that, as was mentioned recently on another thread, "overplayed" is relative - I, for one, have never heard "Kilkenny" performed live.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Scarhart
Date: 27 Mar 06 - 10:16 PM

I too would love to get the sheet music. My address is scarhart @ chivalry.com. A recent visitor to Cantaria sparked my interest; all the comments in this thread have definitely added to that interest, just to hear what all the comments on both sides mean.

Thanks in advance,

- S

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: harpmolly
Date: 27 Mar 06 - 10:41 PM

I too get choked up, though I recognize why people say it's maudlin. I guess I have a reasonably high maudlin threshold (as long as they don't sing it on "Celtic Woman" I can probably put up with it ;)).

My personal connection to this song is because when I got the chance to spend the summer in Ireland in 1994, when I arrived there was a call in from my mom telling me that my grandfather had been taken off dialysis and only had a few days to live. I adored my grandfather (and the feeling I believe was mutual) and for years it had been established that I would sing at his funeral. But this was my only chance to spend the summer in Ireland--if I went back, I couldn't afford to return. I had to make the decision pretty quickly, and after thinking about it, it seemed to me that my grandfather (who was of strong Irish descent) would not want me to give up the chance to get to know Ireland. I chose to stay. But that doesn't mean it didn't hurt like hell.

So, every time I hear, "And it's funny the way he kept talking about you, he called for you at the end;/Why don't you think about coming to visit? we'd love to see you again...", of course it feels pretty personal.

Argh. Combined with my harp playing/grandmother's deathbed story, I'm beginning to sound like a Hallmark Hall of Fame movie. I guess that would explain why I have a high maudlin threshold *sigh*. But it's all true.

Molly

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: JudyB
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 09:06 AM

Hi Sorcha -

While you've got the file out, would you please send me a copy as well?

Thanks!
JudyB
ipbar @ verizon . net

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 02:46 PM

Played it again Sam

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 02:48 PM

you may have to change your name to Sor(yes I have the sheet music for Kilkelly)cha

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 02:50 PM

Hey, both the above emails bounced.......

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 02:51 PM

sorcha - if you cut and pasted they both have spaces that need to be taken out.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 03:08 PM

Oh.
Try again

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 03:18 PM

Didn't bounce that time

SorchWhoHasKillkellySheetMusicNoChords

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: JudyB
Date: 28 Mar 06 - 04:03 PM

Got it - thanks so much, Sorcha! Sorry I forgot to mention that I had inserted spaces into my e-mail address to at least make the little web-crawling worms work a bit to harvest my address to send me yet more ads for obscure growth hormones and really great deals to help starving widows move their millions of dollars.

Thanks again!
JudyB

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 06:42 AM

Please send me sheet music too!!

[e-mail]

Thank you :)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 10:01 AM

Handled.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Fiddling Filly
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 01:56 PM

Hello! I've been searching for the past day or two to find music for Kilkelly. Is it possible someone could send me the sheet music? I have the words, and chords would be nice to have, whether they're on a seperate file or on the same file. My e-mail is [e-mail]. Thanks!
F.F.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 10:38 AM

LOLOLOL! Once more, with feeling....

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Jun 06 - 04:52 PM

Well, I sent it, and she never even said thank you.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 09:21 AM

Would like to find the sheetmusic for Kilkelly ireland. Thanks

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 05:33 PM

ROFROFROF!!! Ok.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: PNB
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 08:33 PM

Thanks, I am forever indebted to you!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 08:14 AM

HOORAY! A reponse!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Lady Niniane
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 10:18 AM

It's been a little while, so I'll stick another request in here.

Could I pretty please with honey mead have a copy of the sheet music for Kilkelly?

Send to mistressniniane @ gmail.com (watch the spaces)

Thank you very much.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 01:39 PM

ROF! Yes Ma'm.....on it's way.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Lady Niniane
Date: 14 Aug 06 - 04:24 PM

I got it! Thank you very much!

Let's see now - where's the virtual mead? Ah, there we go...

Okay, here 'tis - Cranberra honey flavour; hope you like it.


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Lady Niniane

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,JimP
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 07:05 AM

I'm really tempted to ask for the sheet music as well, just to pile on. To tell the truth, though, I really just want the chords. Since the Great and Mighty Sorcha's sheets apparently don't have them, I guess I'll just have to try and 'finger' them out on my own.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 08:44 AM

Standard E minor progression.....look in the Fakebook for either Road to Lisdoonvarna or Swallowtail Jig...just about the same chords.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 09:23 AM

To make it easier, I posted the ABC from the thread mentioned above to theSession.org. Now whomever wants the sheet music, they can get it there. Kilkelly, Ireland.

Hope that helps

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 06:55 PM

THANK YOU GEORGE!!!!!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Ref
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 09:00 PM

Uhhh...chords and words in RUS.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM

You're welcome, Sorcha! (BTW, sorry to hear about your bow troubles). Ref, the words,/a> are HERE and the chords are HERE at the Mudcat. Don't have to locate them elsewhere.

For the newcomers, there is a box at the top right of the screen, which says, Lyric and Knowledge Search. It will allow a search of the information found in the Digital TRadition database of songs, AS WELL as the Mudcat Forum. Included are many tunes in MIDI format. In addition, if you look WAY UP, You can see a box that says Quick Links. Well, JUST BELOW that is a line that includes the word LINKS. if you click on that, you can locate information which many members of the Mudcat have found useful.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kilkelly Ireland
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Sep 06 - 10:36 PM

HI, I found the lyrics at   www.kloosterman.be/topten-jones.php    I found it under Jim's name I think. Also sung by Jim brannigan. It sounds a little different from Paul Jones but it's there along with the words.
My Mother is a war bride from Inverness Scotland. She's never heard it before. At the age of 89 it hit home harder than I had expected. She cried and told me of the parralles in her life. She moved to NFLD Canada in 1945. Hope this helps you.

                                    Saxon_pg

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,craig
Date: 09 Feb 07 - 11:10 AM

if someone has the sheet music for kilkelly ireland could they email it to me , that would be great

[e-mail]

Cheers

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario
Date: 09 Feb 07 - 11:17 AM

e-mailed craig the location.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,paul mc cay
Date: 20 Apr 07 - 07:21 AM

Hello there, just browsing through this page and i realised someone has the sheet music to kilkelly. I've loved the song for years now and im a bit tired playing the 4 chords. would it be possible for me to get a copy of the sheet music e-mailed to me please??

[e-mail]

thanks a million !!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Seth Hackett
Date: 03 May 07 - 03:11 PM

I would also love to have music for this song; I can't find it anywhere else.

Thanks.

Seth Hackett
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 03 May 07 - 08:45 PM

Sent e-mails to the two guys who can't click on my link above. I swear some people can't read English. 8-)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeri
Date: 03 May 07 - 09:13 PM

My personal feeling is that if people really want the music they can read the damned thread. If they ask a question, they can read the damned thread for the replies. I don't e-mail people who are too lazy to do these things. I don't e-mail people I don't know, PERIOD, unless I have some feeling that they're genuine. It's just too easy to wind up on spam directories, and people often get addresses by writing, "e-mail me at..."

If other people feel comfortable winding up in the address books of strangers who may be e-mail harvesters, who may send spam themselves, who may one day be infected by a data-harvester worm that collects your address, or who sends your e-mail address un-protected in the headers of messages to everyone in their address book, one or more of whom may one day be infected with a data-harvester worm, then it's their prerogative. It's not something I'm going to risk, though.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 03 May 07 - 09:18 PM

Jeri, I don't worry about it, Jeri. I figure that some people are genuine. I did point out that they could have had the sheet music if they had read the messages in the thread.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 04 May 07 - 05:24 PM

Jeri, I've rather felt that way about this damn sheet music for a LONG time! Read the bloody thread!!! (There are days when I wish I'd never discovered it!--LOL)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From:
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:07 PM

Got a reply from Seth Hackett saying he was looking for a "more complete" version. What does he mean by that?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:09 PM

I haven't the FOGGIEST notion!!! We've got the melody, the verses, the chords....maybe he could just write his 'more complete' version???????

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeri
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:15 PM

He sounds like he wants an arrangment. I agree with Sorcha. Perhaps he can do some research or write his own. Most musicians I know want the bare bones so THEY can flesh it out.

Subject: Chords Add: KILKELLY (Peter Jones)
From: GUEST,Reverand Dave
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 05:06 PM

Wow! What a treat to find this thread. I did a Google search on Steve and Peter Jones after listening to their album just now that contains this song. I purchased it at the Bethesda Co-Op back in 1985 or so and it has always been one of my favorite albums. The stereo has been in storage for many years and it has been a real treat having it out again and listening to some of these rare gems. I wanted to see if they were still playing but couldn't find any current references to them or a website for them. Anybody know if they are still playing? I've been living in California for the last 20 years but do occasionally get back to the DC area and would love to hear them play again.

At any rate, they have all the lyrics to their songs as well as the chords on the liner notes to the album and this is what they have for this song. I've used the preview function to do my best to get the chords lined up with the lyrics.

Am                      C
Kilkelly, Ireland, Eighteen and Sixty,
      G                               Am
My Dear and loving son, John
                                                       C
Your good friend the schoolmaster Pat McNamara's
      G                                           Am
So good as to write these words down
         C                                     G
Your brothers have all gone to find work in England
       F                                 G
The house is so empty and sad
       Am                        C
The crop of potatoes is sorely infected
    G                            Am
A third to half of them bad
       C                                  G
And your sister Bridget and Patrick O'Donnell
       F                                  G
Are going to get married in June
         Am                        C
Your mother says not to work on the railroad
       G                                     Am
And be sure to come on home soon.

The rest of the verses repeat this pattern. The album says this song was "taken from letters written to our great-great-grandfather from his family in County Mayo".

If anyone knows if this album, or any other material by Steve and Peter, ever made it to CD, please let me know. My email address is david at vibrant-life.org