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BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller

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Subject: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: s6k
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 09:23 PM

not that i or we should be particularly interested, but i think he is an idiot
Sienna is a good looking girl with a nice personality, and i hope she doesnt take him back.

hopefully this will make Jude lose a lot of fans too and make it harder for him to find work, as he doesnt deserve it


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Jul 05 - 09:57 PM

Who's Sienna Miller? Not having a television, my knowledge of pop culture is limited to weekly exposure to tabloid headlines while waiting in the grocery line. I don't recall seeing her name anywhere on them. But I haven't been grocery shopping this week.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 12:15 AM

Here she is, BWK....acting in a Shakespearean production. Very good for the character, what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: s6k
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 07:36 AM

she isnt very famous, but she was in Alfie remake with Jude Law - very ironic dont you think


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: greg stephens
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 07:38 AM

Gossip is depressingly uninteresting when you havent heard of the people concerned.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 21 Jul 05 - 10:25 PM

Okay, now that I've been enlightened as to who Ms. Miller is...

Shades of Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley! Don't those British actors know better than to go out for hamburger when there's Filet Mignon waiting at home?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 12:28 PM

Infidelity is still an interesting thread topic.

Before I was married I did not consider "infidelity" a crime or great indescretion, unless I got caught. Getting lucky while single was a seperate catagory from: cheating, going out for hamburger or any of the other hundreds of metaphors for "double dipping".
Since our wedding day however I have been 100% faithful which is probably a rare thing compared to society at large.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 12:51 PM

I couldn't care less.. he's an actor.. what he does with his time off is NOT the least bit of interest

"I have been 100% faithful"
A man is only as faithful as his options


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: snarky
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 01:27 PM

Some guys only deserve hamburgers out!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 01:42 PM

Sir, a man is as powerful as his choices.
Choices create options.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 01:45 PM

Speak for yourself Clinton. Not all men are alike - I enjoy monogamy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 01:46 PM

That usually what those with no other option say Wes! LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 01:55 PM

You know nothing about me Clinton. Why the insult ? If that's your idea of fun I'm not laughing.

I repeat - I enjoy monogamy. Many other men do too. You can't make blanket statements for an entire gender.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 01:55 PM

I take back my defense of the above person . I do agree with what they call him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 02:00 PM

The virtues of monogamy are a hard lesson to learn, for some. I prefer it, because it means something to me to keep an agreement about how things are going to be. Some guys think that "anything goes", "whatever is, is right" and "that was then, this is now" are the boundaries of integrity; but they are mistaken. If you cannot create an agreement and then keep it, you have an integrity problem which will cast shadows on all other parts of your life, no matter how you rationalize it. Hard-earned wisdom! :)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peter T.
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 02:12 PM

Brits are obsessed with their nannies, it was only a matter of time (I had a nanny, so I know).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 02:20 PM

For a female perspective on this - women are turned on by monogamous men. Monogamous men are able to satisfy their partner and this leads to a lifetime of wonderfully fulfilling intimacy.

A man who has to run around dipping his wick wherever, is usually a pretty shallow excuse for a man, he isnt able to commit 100% because he knows he is lacking in one department or another, and needs to get reassurance from equally shallow women who also need reassurance for their inadequacies, if he thinks scoring with the local bike is manly, he is not only wrong, but laughable.

Monogamy is sexy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 02:35 PM

" If that's your idea of fun I'm not laughing. "
Yer loss mate...

NO primate is monogamous... Most human males who are, are only monogamous because if they're not, they'll lose access what little sex (Other than solo) they get...

"women are turned on by monogamous men"
Women are just as biologically drive to sleep around as men are... if anything it looks like they're worse.

"You can't make blanket statements for an entire gender."
In order to speak generally, one must generalize... d'uh...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 03:27 PM

Most human males who are, are only monogamous because if they're not, they'll lose access what little sex (Other than solo) they get...

Hate to disillusion you, but if they are denied access to sex, they're usually not taht good!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Wesley S
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 03:41 PM

In my eyes one of the ways that you can measure a man is that he understands commitment and knows how to keep his word. But they don't make the news - the dogs get all the publicity. If you hear the tired old excuse that "all the men do it" it's because someone has to make an apology for their lack of moral fiber and upbringing. Most real men understand. But some don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: harpgirl
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 05:11 PM

Clinton, you stupid Canuck!

Primate Monogamy:

Prosimian- at least one species of tarsier.
New world monkey- titi monkey, night monkey, callitrichids.
Old world monkey- langur/mentawi island leaf monkey.
Ape- Gibbon.

Clinton, you need more facts! Sometimes I think you grew up in Goderich!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 05:25 PM

Clinton has impeccible reasoning:

"All Indians walk in single file...at least the Indian *I* saw was walking in single file....and if he wasn't, I'll always be sure he intended to walk in single file."

*grin*...and you, know, sometimes he's right, just as I am.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 05:52 PM

I donno Clinton... I hope you are just saying that to get a rise from folks.

Harpgirl, No need to smear Canuckistani Males. Most would disagree with Clinton.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,average american
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 05:56 PM

hugh grant
and now this...

sic transit gloria limey


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:14 PM

I was at a political meeting last night where a pastor gave his views on what it should mean when someone says that s/he is christian. He said that just like wearing a wedding band is saying that you are committed with integrity to a person/relationship/belief, it should mean that the listener can expect a certain course of thought and action from you. He said there should be no other reason for it. I'm not very religious by nature so I was a little leery of what the man might say- but I liked it.

Clinton's remarks remind me of what a plumber once said to my friend and me that "everyone" has herpes. My friend and I agreed later that all his remark proved is that the plumber had herpes. *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: The Curator
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:14 PM

So whats wrong with what he did, it's a natural thing, men and women have done it for years. If he had made the headlines for behaving like Michael Jackson or George Michael he would have been taken by the hand, fair play to him, he's one of the lads.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:16 PM

JFK which stands for Just F**King


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:23 PM

If men really are interested in knowing what women want, I'm here to tell you that they tend to want the same thing that men want: The knowledge that they are incredibly special to another human being.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:33 PM

As Shane would say: "Ask me if I flippin' care!" (about whether Jude Law cheated on Sienna whoever-she-is...)

Ebbie - Yup. That sounds about right. I'll tell you something though...it is a greater thing to love ALL people than it is go give incredibly special love to one. (but that is very rare)

Our obsession with incredibly special love for one person only is a separation game the ego plays that royally screws up most people's lives and makes them obsessive romantic love junkies who are unhappy and unfulfilled most of the time. (read "A Course in Miracles" and associated literature for the lowdown on that...or listen to Marianne Williamson's 4-CD set on romantic love relationships.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: s6k
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:42 PM

hes an arse hole for cheating on her, especially since he proposed very recently


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:45 PM

Yeah? Well, maybe, but he's a guy, right? I figger he is just doin' his job, eh? Most guys are arseholes. I am a major asrsehole and I'm proud of it, eh? I don't trust guys that are not arseholes because there is probally soemthing wrong with them. That's how I figger it. Every guy I ever met in Blind River or Sudbury is an arsehole. It's normal.

- BDiBR


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,615
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 06:49 PM

Blind Drunk ? More like blind stupid if you ask me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 07:10 PM

Look, man. Don't call me stupid, eh?

- BDiBR


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 07:42 PM

Little Hawk, far be it from me to say that you missed the point - ahem!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 08:15 PM

Ebbie your deduction about the plumber made me laugh out loud.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 08:38 PM

Most plumbwers have herpes for a coupla basic reasons.

1. Too much time spent in damp places.

2. Stickin' it in the pipe. Copper pipes contain toxic susbstances, eh? It's not smart to go doin' stuff like that, but plumbers have got to spend a lotta time alone cos their job sucks and they don't have nice clothes and they're just basically not that cool, eh? So the girls ain't inter4ested accept for the odd skank who will flip anything on a dare.

That's my theery.

Girls! Take a heed, eh, and don't play with the plumber!

- BDiBR


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 08:54 PM

Sounds to me like you know more about plumbers than is healthy, oh, Optically Challenged Toper.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 05 - 08:56 PM

Ah-Ha!Ha!Ha!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 03:37 AM

" Primate Monogamy"
There are exceptions to EVERY generalization... I figured the crowd here was intelligent enough to grok that such went without saying...

Guess some need to spell it out...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 04:51 AM

Jaysus. Who would expect loyalty from a guy named Jude anyway?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Cllr
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 06:32 AM

gnu, that last comments is a bit obscure isn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 06:44 AM

HARD(L)Y!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: harpgirl
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 07:03 AM

"Women are just as biologically drive to sleep around as men are... if anything it looks like they're worse."


Judging by bonobos and some of my friends...alright Clinton (you ignorant Canuck) I'll give you this one! Oh and see my comment to Little John Cameron from years ago. He loved it!



l,h

PS for all the thickheaded people who take me seriously, lighten up!
I love Clinton's scrappiness and macho posturing! He's so cute!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 07:55 AM

Hear that? It's the sound of most of the world not giving a shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 08:55 AM

Hey folks, at least he's not trying to run a country at the same time!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 09:55 AM

As well as the BS section there should be an ETBS, extra thick bull shit for topics like this.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 10:01 AM

Four sure, eh? There oughta be a section for rude flippers like me too, so's we don't hafta feel bad about bein' who we are, eh? I can't flippin' stand these people who think they are soooo much better than other people and they drink their flippin' coffee with their pinky stickin' out and they are sooooo perfect! I'd like to give them all a good kick in the ass.

We don't tolerate them kind in Blind River.

- BDiBR


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Marjorie Kensington
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 10:24 AM

Blind River - what shallowly disguised anger you display - all coming from the hips. Beneath all that alcohol and sweat, behind the bravado and fantasy, underneath the swagger and the occasional technicolour yawns, I'll bet there is a person in there, hurting.

best wishes to you, BDiBR,


Marjorie K

(with pinkie raised to attention)


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 06:41 PM

You have no idea, Marjorie. ;-) If all Shane's frustration and unrealized libido were materialized in one location, it would rival the Rockefeller Center for sheer mass. I've been to Blind River. I've even seen the "Iron Horse Bar & Grill" where Shane likes to hang out and harass the waitresses. You have to go there to fully appreciate it, believe me...but why would anyone?

Our beloved and late friend Rick Fielding actually played Blind River once or twice and lived to tell the tale! That takes grit when you're a folksinger. Clinton Hammond has never played Blind River, because he just doesn't have quite that much grit.

(Either that or he's just smart...) ;-)

Poor Shane is wasting away, madly in love with an attractive female police officer, "Officer Dana". He also yearns for Shania Twain. I'm not sure which objective is more unrealistic.

Well, Shania, I guess...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 08:30 PM

At least he doesn't yearn for Winona. *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 10:50 PM

Oh, tape the video of "Party for Two" or whatever it's called like the rest of us. I never did care THAT much for her music til she started shakin her tits in that see through on that video. Man, can she sing.

Seriously... she can sing like a bird... so why the tits? Not that I am complaining. I likes tits... and she can sing. DAMN FINE.

Winona has that "look" too, don't she? Never heard her sing. But, I'd like to see her try.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 12:29 AM

I don't think Winona sings...but my God, she has eyes and a general facial structure that just leave me breathless. Pretty good taste in movie scripts too, usually, and she had enough wits not to go the cheap starlet route as so many do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:30 AM

The casting cell LH!! A tad unorthodox don't you think?
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 05:42 AM

Neither Jude nor Sienna have asked me for my opinion yet. So I am working on the assumption that they do not need it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jul 05 - 10:45 AM

Well, Winona has an emotional problem of some sort that resulted in the shoplifting. She must be unhappy. It doesn't change the fact that she has had a very tastefully handled career in the movies, although not much lately. She was in a lot of great films in the 80's and 90's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: freda underhill
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 07:37 AM

This article by an Australian writer says it all on Jude Law...

"Male feminists", like their unenlightened brothers, are still after
only one thing, writes Kathy Lette.

Jude Law is the sort of man who treats women as sequels, not equals.
After seven years or so of marriage, couples can get itchy and some of them scratch. But to cheat during his engagement, while professing to be so profoundly and passionately in love, shows the emotional depth of a mud puddle. While publicly planning his marriage to Sienna Miller, Law was privately acting like a man who was footloose and fiancee-free. The sexually incontinent thespian has proven himself to be the kind of bloke who goes straight from puberty to adultery. Obviously his idea of fidelity is to have only one woman in bed at a time.

The worst of it is that Law has cultivated the image of being a
Sensitive, Caring and Sharing Knight in Shining Armani. Well groomed,
designer-clad,emotionally articulate, partial to doing Sensitive Things with Snow Peas - we presumed that Law was in touch with his feminine side. We just hadn't realised that it was on another female. The man is a wolf in sheep's clothing. (It helps to remember that the Oxford English Dictionary excised the expression "New Man" from its tome, having realised that no such creature really exists. It would seem that men only call themselves "male feminists" in the hope of getting a more intelligent bonk.)

And it is his Victorian attitude to women which is most damning. Law's
justification for his sexual kleptomania is that Miller was neglecting
him by being more interested in her own stellar career. Law is obviously the kind of man who would prefer his wife's talents to lie doormat for years. Despite Miller's skimpy outfits, a psychological bustle and crinoline is what he wants to truss her up in. When London won its Olympic bid, as my English friends are not all that sporty (the only thing they run up are bills), I hoped they might introduce some activities at which they excel as a nation. Quipping. Whipping. Queuing. And stiff-upper-lipping.

Famously stoic, the English are renowned for their sense of fair play. If such an Olympic category existed, they'd win gold. As long as they're not represented by Jude Law. When a tabloid revealed his
affair with the family nanny, instead of taking it on the chin, he
tried to blame Miller for "not showing him enough devotion". This makes one suspect that his marriage to Sadie Frost broke up for religious reasons - he thought he was a God and, well, she just didn't. Law's self-centred outbursts confirm the man is totally wrapped up in himself. And it's such a teeny, weeny package. We must just hope that Miller's PMT (pre-monogamy tension) prevents her from succumbing to the delusion that she can change Jude Law's cheatin' ways.

The only time a woman can ever change a male like him is out of a
nappy, as a baby.

The Telegraph, London

ps.. sorry to interrupt the reveries about Winona, boys!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 08:18 AM

Hmmm. Freda, consider this. People reincarnate as male and female, at various times but in no particular sequence. One is as easy as the other. It's like changing the shirt you wear, from the point of view of the soul. Accordingly, one's status as either a male OR a female in THIS life is a very temporary matter, in my opinion. Ultimately the human soul is beyond gender, but when it's encased in a biological human body it has to select one or the other for the time being.

So...do all the virtuous women suddenly lose their steadfast qualities and become heartless sexual predators when they reincarnate as males? That would indeed be ironical. ;-) And one would wonder why it would be that way. How many feminists were men the last time around??? More than a few, I'd bet. They're mad at themselves.

I have (so far) personally never cheated on an existing relationship that I was having with a partner, and I'm male. I know other males who have never cheated on their partner too. I know females who have. Plenty. I also know that males are more likely to take advantage of momentary opportunities, but there is absolutely no sense in these diatribes that try to pit one gender against the other. It's foolish and doesn't help anyone.

Jude Law's activities are in no way a comment on the entire male gender. All people instinctively search for love, in the way they best know how. Society encourages males to "play the field", and people tend to be shaped by the expectations a culture lays upon them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: freda underhill
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 09:45 AM

Hi, LH,

I take it all back, all of it! It was just Be Mean to Jude Law Day, and I succumbed. Any male feminist who has been hurt, I am sincerely sorry.

I apologise to all the good men in my life, and to all those others as well.

However any wolves in sheep's clothing, I'll send you to the stop shagging sheep thread - you may get more than you bargained for!


freda


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 09:57 AM

One is as easy as the other. It's like changing the shirt you wear, from the point of view of the soul.

I would submit that it is sometimes a damn sight tougher than that. Let us not be too glib about it, or facile in defining THE soul...there may be a lot of different ones about, not all as polished as all of that! :D I suspect that swapping sides often requires either a lot of growth, or a lot of blood, sweat and contraction, no matter which direction you start from.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: freda underhill
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 10:26 AM

Back to LH & Amos' comments, I believe the soul is without human attributes, and takes on a genetic pattern with each incarnation, like "clothes". This pattern determines our personality attributes and potential, for the lifetime. So yes, Little Hawk, my karma may eventually run down my dogma. That will teach me!

With gender, like everything it is genetically determined. I saw this documentary earlier in the week - The Gender Puzzle.

It is about people whose chromosomes don't match the standard. Women with internal testes, Men who can't process testoosterone, and so are like women. Scientists are studying them as a way of discovering the genes that determine everybody's gender. It was fascinating, and interviewed people with Androgen Insensivity Syndrome amongst others.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 09:22 PM

Well said, freda. Biological life is quite a trip for the soul, requiring adhering to some pretty confining roles. It can be fun, but not nearly as much fun as being in the astral, I suspect, depending on one's state of mind at the time...

Hey, Amos, I remember being a woman in one life. No problem, I assure you. I died young in that one, though, so I didn't really have much chance to explore the role in its full depth that time. Didn't marry or have children or that sort of thing.

Most of the other circumstances I recall (a few) involved male lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: sixtieschick
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 09:42 PM

These gender issue threads--not even getting into the karmic implications--can get really gnarly. But Freda, that Kathe Lette sure knows how to turn a phrase!

"footloose and fiancee-free."
"The sexually incontinent thespian."
"a Sensitive, Caring and Sharing Knight in Shining Armani."
"partial to doing Sensitive Things with Snow Peas."

I'm laughing, girl. Laughing. That's one good writer. I'm sure she could give some deserving female a devastating verbal drubbing as well.

M.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 11:13 PM

Yes, she certainly has a way with words. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 26 Jul 05 - 11:18 PM

I don't see no eraeason gettin' bent outta shape about this. If I had the chance I would probally cheat on Sienna Miller too, eh?

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:23 AM

Hell, BDiBR, you'd cheat on Officer Dana for halfg a truck's worth of beer.

I think that the soul who is free and clear might well glide effortlessly from gender unto gender. But the ones I have dealt with, and they are many, all retain a lot of gender-based notions crossing the Lifetime Divide. The lifetimes easily remembered are one thing. The ones painted all black and buried in ignominy are the ones you want to shake out. 'COurse that's just one opinion. :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 01:37 AM

I have to ask: "Who gives a shit?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:32 AM

Sorry, BDiBR, that remark was to the statement that "Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller"--with no offense meant to s6k, the thread's originator.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:38 AM

thanks sixtieschick, I'm glad soomeone other than me found it funny!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: sixtieschick
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:40 AM

Sorry to laugh at clever remarks made at the expense of others--the overall article was standing in judgement of a large segment of the human race by picking on one particular, very public example to generalize from. Bashing any group bashes us all.

Sixtiesmeaculpa


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 03:49 AM

well, that was not my intent - but i can see its had that effect. Again, sorry guys. I have a lot to learn. Her book Foetal Attraction was a very funny, satirical view on childbirth. But i would never give it to any new mother or mother to be, it's only for someone who will never have to go through it again.

freda


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: sixtieschick
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 04:10 AM

Ah well, Freda. If only she could have picked on Law as an individual. She is a good writer, but a very astute person pointed out to me that Legge was using Law to make some sweeping judgements about men in general. I regretted appreciating her wit when it was ultimately used in disservice to humanity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 11:06 AM

Yes, Amos, the lives that are not clearly remembered may hold the key to some pretty dark stuff all right...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:08 PM

Oh come on, Kathy's article is truly hilarious, a classic "take no prisoners" piece, couldn't happen to a jerkier guy, I laughed, must get her book! As a male feminist, I bow in homage in her direction for a splendid hatchet job!!!

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 11:03 AM

Absolutely; she has a razor tongue of the best sort. "Treats women as sequels, not equals" is classic stuff; "emotional depth of a mudpuddle" and "knight is shining Armani" are gems. PErsonally I don't see anything wrong with wanting a more intelligent bonk, but then neither do the more intelligent bonks. But as Peter points out she is in an over-the-top, take-no-prisoners frame of mind.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 12:17 PM

Pity we couldn't get her to write a little article on Gargoyle, isn't it? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 01:37 PM

Considering that Jude and Sienna aren't married, who cares? Maybe they should have thought about all that before they made a baby.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 01:56 PM

A baby's worth is not enshrined in a marriage license.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 03:52 PM

No, and I didn't mean that either. I meant that they both should have given their relationship serious thought a long time ago, especially if there was any question about their level of commitment to one another.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 04:59 PM

True enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 06:15 PM

Who the heck are these people? And (apart from the baby) why should I care?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 06:23 PM

You should care, man, because...

because...

Well, okay, maybe you shouldn't care.

Just forget it, okay?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: freda underhill
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 06:36 PM

they don't have any children together - he's divorced and has kids with his ex.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 07:44 AM

Of course you should care. Jude Law is a god celebrity, and like all god celebrities his every move is important, his every foible critical to the sustaining of life. Attention is a form of worship: to look at is to look up. Your uninteresting life is nurtured by the gods. That he has failings is not important -- even Zeus played around -- what is important is that you are aware that his life is more important than yours, that is all that is required.

Foolish unknown mortal.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 11:10 AM

That may be, Peter, but his life is of extremely minor importance next to William Shatner's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 12:59 PM

Were it not for me, Jude Law, Little Hawk, Peter T., Senna Miller, G. W. Bush and family, the Mudcat Cafe, the Internet, Life, the Universe, and Everything would not exist, for I created you. Yes!

Feel free to revere me whenever you feel the urge come over you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 02:52 PM

If you created George W., you have a lot to answer for; on the other hand, if you created Emma Thompson, do you take shipping orders and credit cards?

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: MMario
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 02:56 PM

Peter, you said it yourself, even the gods have failings...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 03:46 PM

My bad - I thought he had a baby with her. I can't keep all these young pretty movie stars straight.

In that case, let me slightly rephrase what I originally said: They're not married to each other so WHO CARES.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 05:54 PM

"WHO CARES"

'I have to ask: "Who gives a shit?"'

OK, your way sounds better. I'm a Canadian--hope that explains it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 06:36 PM

Peter T, you are pretty hip to the subtleties, if I may use that word, of American cultural dynamics, considering you are from Tornado, or whatever... How do you account for this?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: GUEST,Cluin
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 07:02 PM

I just saw a herd of assless rats going by.

Such a tragedy.

Nothing left for Xmas now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 12:15 PM

Canada is a pathetic country that spends all its time obsessing about American stars, and it has this pathetic glow when someone as ridiculous as William Shatner is famous ("They love us, they really love us.).

That is why. We imbibe it with the drinking water (which you will buy from us shortly).

yours,

Peter
T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 02:12 PM

Canada has about 22% of the world's fresh water.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 02:37 PM

As long as Bruce Murdoch keeps writing songs and Peter T. keeps writing, we will have no problem staying friends with Canada. May the spirit of the Great Fielding be upon you.

We'll sell you Budweiser in exchange, eh?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 03:27 PM

Amos, when we have neighbours like you and so, so many others here, it sure is hard to think about animosity between the people of our countries. But ain't that usually the way, huh? I don't recall anytime in history when the PEOPLE started a war. Maybe we just need fewer leaders who want to do their best for five years and then bugger off to what they were doing before they became the leader. Overly simplistic, I know. But damn near anything's gotta be better than this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 03:45 PM

I just set my iTunes to play your 1980 recordings over and over, Peace, from "Jericho" to "'Tis of Thee" and back. I intend to cover them all before I die!! :D

I'm with you on the corruption inherent in some kinds of leadership. I have known a few leaders who were exemplary and self-effacing, good leaders who care about the goals and members of their groups.

But by far, they were way on one end of the bell curve.

People like Jude Law just remind me that we need mandatory study in grade school that covers morality, ethics, leadership, followship, fellowship and the brotherhood of man.

I wouldn't give a high school diploma to anyone who couldn't write an essay on each topic without any references, 2,000 words minimum.

When moral codes elevate riches and conquest as primary virtues, the native insight which makes ethics possible gets trampled. Add television and Earth becomes a hell.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 08:46 PM

Budweiser is something like sub-water.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 09:13 PM

That's what we use it for, PT!! :D All over the country, every night, there are men and women transferring Budweiser to sub-water status, pouring it into the oceans through pipelines from all over the country. It is amazing, especially since it is volunteer-driven. Many volunteers even pay to participate, and often expose themselves in dangerous places just to continue delivering the Bud. We have one of the richest sub-water volunteer forces in the world, and we're proud of it.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 05 - 09:19 PM

Well, it sure provides much-needed assistance to the horse industry. The poop is useful for the petunias, etc. But the Bud, hey, ya know? But, it's the thought that counts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jude Law Cheats On Sienna Miller
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 02:27 AM

100 Whoo hoo!!!

LTS


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