So the English think they've a problem? (sessions)

Subject: So the English think they've a problem?
From: GUEST,Dazbo
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 05:26 AM

Wandering around the internet I found this thread on organising sessions in Italy on The Session.Org

Thread Here (hopefullyP

Makes you want to weep really!

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 07:43 AM

That does sounds like a pretty dire situation. It'd be interesting to hear how it works out in practice - the restrictions sound so extreme that I'd hope that they would generate resistance and undermine themselves.

I think it'd be enough to make me take up playing music, even if I didn't have any interest in doing so to begin with. I'd have thought there should be enough bloody-minded Italians around to make it unworkable on principle.

I can't see how these kind of restrictions can be compatible with human rights legislation.
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Thanks for pointing the way to that Sessions site there, Dazbo. It looks like one well worth bookmarking.

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 08:03 AM

Jeeze what a buncha maroons....I suppose they think playing music is pretty much the same as gambling or farting.

A

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 08:20 AM

I don't think you need a licence for that last one, Amos.

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: Billy Suggers
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 09:01 AM

Sorry to disappoint, Kev, but the latest Order In Council relating to the Clean Air Act imposes libility for payment towards the UK Greenhouse Gas responsibilities - currently at 0.004 EUA per trump. You may have seen the news that detectors have now been installed on the Gatwick Flyer. Harlow Town's next on the list.

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: kendall
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 09:33 AM

Looks like they need a revolution too!

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 06:14 PM

The best entertainment lawyer in Rome used to be Massimo Ferrara. I think he is now dead, but if my memory serves me his son whose name escapes me runs his firm which was in via Cristoforo Colombo. They might want to take it on pro bono.

If they don't, there is a very ambitious woman lawyer, the daughter of a film producer and again the name escapes me (could it be Ponti?) at the Rome office of one of the big US firms - It might be Loeb and Loeb.

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 06:38 PM

It could be Ponti, Richard, Carlo Ponti was a great Italian film producer

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: Dead Horse
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 07:40 PM

Nah. It is Fanny Hitchcock :-)
Easy way out of this little dilemma is to learn cajun moosic and move to Louisiana.
Thats just what I would do iffen I come up on the lottery.

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: michaelr
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 07:41 PM

McGrath -- I'm surprised you haven't yat come across thesession.org. It's a great site for ITM, with a huge database of tunes in both notation and ABC. Lively discussions, too.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 07:46 PM

Well, the Internet is a big place. Most of it's rubbish, but there are diamonds in the dust, and I'm glad to have found another cache of them.
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But as for the Italian business - is this new legislation, or is it something that people have been living with for some time? It's not in keeping with the way the rest of the world thinks of how Italy is supposed to be like.

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 08:39 PM

well de us ov a is de king ob de world jus' now- [I do be a conspiracy theorist]- Is it part of another 'world domination' design to control all music for commercial/ profit purposes?

I'm currently wking with lots young people, offenders & others who believe that only 'stars' can sing/produce musc*

they just don't know that there's a whole world of folks everywhere strutting their own stuff purely for their own pleasure [audience incidental]

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 04:53 AM

It could be Ponti, Richard, Carlo Ponti was a great Italian film producer

Who was, and I confess a tinge of jealousy here, married to Sophia Loren.

Dave

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: alanabit
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 07:05 AM

So folk music is essentially illegal in Italy?
In England it seems that a long history of indifference, neglect and changing social structures have sidelined it. I can see some hope though. That is because by forcing it into becoming an underground scene, it could well regain some vitality and relevance. I certainly hope so.

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 07:24 AM

A bit of illegality never did any harm, so long it evokes the right kind of bloody-minded refusal to toe the line. Here's a piece about the tradition in the North Italian town of Ponte Caffaro - I wonder how that's effected by this kind of thing?

Writing in 1998 after a return to the town to see how the local tradition was developing, eight years after an earlier visit, Rod Stradling wrote: "Almost every one of the changes and differences we encountered this year might have been specifically designed to encourage the ordinary townspeople of Ponte Caffaro to join in with the Compagnia in the celebration of Carnevale - to develop participation in an individual or small group capacity..."

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 07:46 AM

If you think the official reaction in Italy is bad look up what would happen in Afghanistan!!

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 09:17 AM

The right to sing?

Subject: RE: So the English think they've a problem?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 10:22 AM

I wa wondering how long it would take... More than 24 hours, he's slowing...